Okay, so in the constitution grants two jurisdiction that's uh one under the common law and the other under We do this. constitution under condition of contract criminal aspects of a colorable admiralty jurisdiction. What's going on guys? Welcome back to No One Is Above the Law. Today we have a young man who has his sovereign citizen head on who absolutely feels like everything he says is law. Everything he says is bond. Everything he says is true. Everything he says goes. And today he is going to be in a Michigan courtroom before Judge Marlena Taylor. I want to see how she handles this. Let's go ahead and jump into this proceeding. >> I'm going to just call his case numbers. Ticket uh this is now the matter of the people versus Timothy Tally Williams. This is ticket SP 1283888 count one, two, and three. Ticket SP 1409982 counts one and two. Ticket number SP 1409983 count one. Ticket SP 1411 >> [cough] >> My bad. You ready? Yeah. Okay. SP 1411848 counts one, two, and three. Ticket SP 1418401 counts one, two, and three. Ticket SP 1466801 counts two, and three. Ticket SP 1452301 counts two, and three. Ticket SP 1467130 counts one. Ticket number SX 2454328 counts one and two and ticket number SP 1283889 expired plates. Appearances for the record starting with counsel, please. Um Judge, I'm this is attorney Herman Griffin. I did speak with the defendant. Um I did talk to him one over his rights. [clears throat] However, he indicated to me that he wants to move forward without the assistance of counsel. So, I just want to make sure that it's in the record. I'm going to go talk to him for a few hours. All right. Thank you so much. All right. Is that true, Mr. Williams? You want to move forward without counsel at this time? Correct. You know you have the absolute right to have counsel, especially with misdemeanors in these particular matters. Um so, but at this point in time you want to move forward on your own, Mr. Williams? I do. Okay. Mr. Williams, how would you like to proceed? Um do you want to have a bench trial, a jury trial, or do you want to try and resolve these matters? I'll try to resolve them today. And I have a couple questions for you for Well, we'll see if I can answer them cuz I can't give you counsel because I'm not an attorney. I'm not practicing as an attorney. Okay. What's what What's up, Mr. Williams? All right. So, before you move any further, um what jurisdiction is is the court under? Is it civil or criminal? This is So, uh traffic kind of acts like a hybrid. Um so, we are um it's criminal because it's misdemeanor. So, with it carries the underlying that you can have like jail time and fines. Um usually with civil it's just going to be fines and it's not going to be the opportunity to have jail time. And that's why you have the ability to be able to have um counsel appointed to you because you get the the rights kick in, right? You can have a jury trial. You have trial by a juror. So, um we're under the jurisdiction of I would say more criminal matters for these. Okay. So, in the constitution grants two jurisdictions that's uh one under the common law and the other under We do what now? constitutional limited condition of uh contract criminal aspects of a colorable admiralty jurisdiction. So, which one applies? >> under So, this is under the just the misdemeanor um state ordinances um as well as was not state ordinances. The misdemeanor crimes under the state law as well as under the city ordinance violations that these fell fall under. So, each city is uh in order to govern itself, you have the absolute power of the United States of America. After you have the absolute power of the United States of America, what they've done is they've divvied up the opportunity for states to control their own entities as long as they don't interfere with the federal stuff. So, they can be more stringent than the federal laws, [clears throat] but they can't be any any less stringent than the federal laws. And the same trickles down in the state. So, then you have the state government, and then you have city government laws which allow the opportunity for them to create ordinances and rules to be followed by those individual states. So, that's how we kind of operate, and so we are able to function and operate as a city if you avail yourself to the operations of a city or state. I didn't get that. I know. [clears throat] So, we're operating under the state law, city ordinances, and state ordinance vi- uh state misdemeanor violations. So, it's colorable admiralty jurisdiction. The contract. >> that's archaic law, and what I mean by that is that that's um although we use those terms, those Latin derivatives during law school, the actual practice is known as state has uh the ability to govern its people, and the city has further governance over its people um to be able to make sure that rule and order is continued and followed within the state guidelines. All right, Mr. Williams, what do you want to do though cuz we're not going to have a question and answer service. I've been on the docket for a while. If you do want to, you can come back at 1:30 and I'll be more than happy to continue this educational opportunity. Well, I'm I want to a motion to dismiss for failure to All right. So, that's not going to be granted and I that's not the correct order to do it. So, if you wanted to file something like this, you could be able to file it and make the legal arguments appropriate for these matters, but you would have to state some type of legal reasoning as to why and jurisdiction is not a legal reason Well, it's a legal reasoning, but you can write that and see how you can find the laws that are current to our state constitution as well as the constitution of the city of Detroit and the rules and opportunities to be able to follow that that. So, if you would like to file a motion, you can have a motion date and time to be able to file that. I'm not going to dismiss them today though. So, why can I get dismissed today? Because these are ordinances that you are to follow within the city. There are rules that we follow as human beings in the United States of America as well as under the under city under the city of you are a resident of the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit. But under what contract? Under common law or >> a contract. You know, these are not contracts. Okay? >> So, under under what you >> regular rules. So, you Listen, Mr. Williams, you can either handle these matters or they'll just go back into default and be in default as well as they'll be under warrant status. Listen. I know you are trying to handle them, but you want them dismissed. They are rules that you have to follow as a citizen of the United States of America, more importantly as the state of Michigan, and as someone who traversed, traveled, moved about in the city of Detroit. These are the rules that have been established for reasons and sometimes their underlying reasons are reasons that we all can see and understand clearly. Sometimes the reasons are not reasons that we really understand, but these are the rules that have been set into place. We have jurisdiction because you are a body, a person, an entity, a being that is located within the confines of the state of Michigan as of right now, who has done stuff within the state of Michigan in the city of Detroit and that's why we have the opportunity to be able to do these things. All right. So, attorney person All right. All right, I can't Mr. Williams. I can't argue back and forth today with you. I've had a amazingly long docket this morning. So, I told you you can come back and we can have this discussion at 1:30, but I need to finish the rest of the people from this morning's docket before I continue to have this discussion. So, I don't mind, we can do it at 1:30, but I got to finish my morning docket before we have all these philosophical discussions on why I have jurisdiction over you as a court. Okay. I told you Mr. Williams to come back at 1:30. My staff needs a break and I need a break as well. Can I Can I come in or I got to do the video? You can do video. You want to have a in court Listen, if you want to have a in court discussion about all of this, I want written filed motions for all of this. I'm not going to have a philosophy discussion about why we have jurisdiction over you. So, you need to file motions, the appropriate motions with the court that go with each one of the things that you're talking about that you want to happen. I'm not I'm going to repeat, I'm not going to just dismiss them because you think I don't have jurisdiction. I'm not. You have to show me why we don't have jurisdiction over you. >> But you're You're supposed to be a unbiased arbiter. We see Judge Marlena Taylor making it super duper plain. You cannot just walk in the court [music] and say that the court has no jurisdiction and expect everything to just disappear like magic. If you are going to challenge jurisdiction, >> [music] >> you have to bring a real legal argument with actual law behind it. That's just how it works. Just saying [music] contract, common law, admiralty, or I surrendered [music] my state ID does not automatically make the tickets vanish. The judge [music] has given him the opportunity, Mr. Williams, to file a motion, but she is also letting him know that repeating sovereign citizen talking points is not enough to get a dismissal. Who's supposed to be in between prosecutor? >> That's right. Prosecutor need to explain how she got jurisdiction over me. So, you have and their expected explanation comes when you file a motion. So, you need to file a motion so that they can know what legal principles and arguments you're standing on so that they can properly respond to it. If you just say that you don't have jurisdiction, I'm going to tell them that as an officer of the court, we take judicial notice that if you were in the city of Detroit operating or doing any of these things that that's why they drew the ticket on you. But, if there's a jurisdictional issue, you have to state a legal reasoning why and give the prosecutor's office time to respond to your legal factual basis and reasoning as to why that happened. So, I'm more than welcome. I'll set a a hearing date to give you motion times to be able to do that, but you have to file a written motion as to why you believe, legally, they don't have jurisdiction over you. But, ain't that their state duty? That's the reason why I'm here. They should >> The duty of it So, I'm telling you, I take judicial notice that the ticket was written in the city of Detroit, so they have a legal reason and basis for giving you the ticket. You hear that? That's the first thing. So, I'm already stating as an officer of the court that by receiving these tickets, they have a legal reason and jurisdiction over you. Right? But, if you believe they don't >> If you run my name, you will see that I surrendered my state ID and I have a passport, right? I have no contracts with the Secretary of State whatsoever. So, You just have the United States of America, which is a even higher jurisdiction than us. Right. You know what I'm saying? I have no >> Right. Right. So, the the SOS I don't have no contracts with them. And if you run if So, just because you don't avail yourself of the former process, doesn't mean that you cannot be held to the standards and rules of the Secretary of State's office. That's not how this works. So, you don't sever ties. That's not how it works. If you avail yourself to the rules, if you allow yourself to get into a vehicle and drive on the streets in the state of Michigan in the city of Detroit, you have now automatically availed yourself to the to the laws, to the civil infractions, to the misdemeanors, which lie within this state and the city bounds. That's not what the Constitution say. And you took a oath. I did. I took lots of oaths, too, just so you know. So, I didn't took all kinds of oaths to be an attorney, to be an a judge, to be uh when I graduated from college, I'm sure I took some oaths. I've taken oaths. And that's why I can say with a straight face and a clear conscience that I am following the rules of the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit when I say that they have the ability and the right to write tickets to people who traverse, travel, go upon the city streets of the city of Detroit, the state of Michigan, and to issue tickets to individuals. We deputize those individuals on the street. Now, whether or not it's true, that's another type of hearing. Whether or not these allegations are that have been alleged are true, that's not the hearing that I'm deciding today. But unless you want to take some type of offer. The only thing I'm deciding today is whether or not you want to move forward with some type of plea or whether or not you want to move forward with trial or whether or not you want to move forward in that type of capacity and way. So, and you said that you don't believe that we have jurisdiction or that the these tickets are not. So, I'm telling you if you don't believe it's jurisdiction, you have to file a written legal document that says why you don't believe that they have jurisdiction. And so that they can respond to it legally like on a legal basis. I'll do that. Okay. So, how much time do you need, Mr. Williams? To have the hearing cuz what they do is they'll you you'll submit your your written stuff, they'll get time to be able to respond. Um and then you'll have a copy of that so that you can make sure that you can understand what's going on. So, how much time do you need? >> [snorts] >> Give me till January. Give me January. >> So, we'll have to come back on January 30th. That gives you 90 days. I need the motion filed before then, though. So, I need the motion filed by January On the record, recalling the matter of the people versus Timothy Williams and all his matters. Um can I have your name for the record, sir? Uh Timothy Williams. All right. And then city, I'll make sure that also the attorney that's typically assigned knows this as well. I'll set it that it be I'm trying to find a calendar for January. Sorry. Okay. All right. Um so, I'm going to have a hearing in this matter. Let's do it on a Thursday. So, let's do it February 1st cuz I'mma need time. February 1st, 2024 is going to be the actual hearing date though, but I'm going to have you submit your motion no later than January the 12th. And then there needs to be a response from the people by January 26th. And we'll have the motion hearing on February the 1st. Okay, Your Honor. I'm sorry. I was in another courtroom. This is the prosecutor. Pia Chiku Mason. So, we're doing on >> [clears throat] >> Mr. Williams, Timothy Williams. So, um he wants to file a motion. I told him if he wants to file a motion, it needs to be filed no later than January 12th. The people have the response needs to be by January 26th. And the hearing will be February 1st. Very good, Your Honor. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. All right. There's nothing further. That concludes this hearing for today. Your Honor, am am I able to come in or is it going to be on >> what? Am I able to come in on the 1st? Physically come in if you want to. You want to have it in person? Yep. Okay. In person on January on February the 1st, 2024, okay? Yep. All right. All right. That concludes this hearing. Bond will continue at $0 personal. Thanks. And you see how this hearing ends. Judge Taylor did not dismiss anything and she did not accept [music] the argument that the court had no jurisdiction over him. Instead, she gave Mr. Williams a motion deadline, a response deadline, >> [music] >> and a hearing date. So, if he truly wants to make that argument that he was making, >> [music] >> he has to put it in writing and present it legally. This is what happens a lot in these sovereign citizen [music] hearings. The defendant, Mr. Williams, thinks the right words will [music] shut the case down, but the court simply moves the case forward and requires them to follow the same legal process [music] as everyone else. Well, that is it for us today, guys. You know our motto here on the channel, no one is above the law.