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Okay, dude. I'm not going to play this game with you. Identify yourself. I'm going to put you in handcuffs. I'm going to take your fingerprint and identify you. So, you're going to threaten to arrest me? I'm not threatening to arrest you. I'm threatening >> No, no. Is it Is that to identify you? You're recording me right now? Do you have any like law degree or anything? In this encounter, a police officer responds to a neighborhood complaint after witnesses claim a man kicked a government vehicle. The officer approaches the resident and demands identification. Under the Fourth Amendment, officers must have reasonable suspicion that a crime occurred before detaining someone or requiring ID. The resident questions that authority, turning the interaction into a confrontation over constitutional rights. They were saying this that and the other, a whole bunch of stuff. So, I asked them to leave and they did. It's fine. They're out there. It's cool. >> Mhm. No, they're just upset because I won't let them I didn't want them originally talking to my kid. And so, that's why they're mad. Well, they're just doing their job. They're part of children's division. They have to investigate just like we have to investigate stuff, so. I know. Do you have an ID with you? >> No. What's your name? Oh, no. I don't give my ID unless I'm I'm not going to play this game with you. I've done it before a couple years ago. I'm not going to do it again. >> Hold on. Hold on. >> I had a reason to identify you. >> What for? Property damage. When you kick a vehicle, it's considered property damage. >> Okay. Is there evidence of that? I have two witnesses, so yes. No, no. Is there evidence? It's hearsay right now. No, I have two witnesses. We can both say that he kicked me and I Okay, dude. I'm not going to play this game with you. Identify yourself. I'm going to put you in handcuffs. I'm going to take your fingerprint and identify you. So, you're going to threaten to arrest me? I'm not threatening to arrest you. I'm >> No, no. Is it Is that to identify you? >> Yes. That's all I need to know. Am I going to be arrested if I don't ID? That's strong possibility right now. >> It's possibility, but am I Am I Yes or no? When When you are being investigated for committing a crime, I have a reason to identify you. >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. >> refuse to identify. >> Yeah, if if you suspect me of a crime. So, what's your reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime? They called uh community services. We can just look them up through his address, cuz we've been here before and he did the same thing with him. Well, I just want to know if I'm convicted of a crime. Do you suspect me? >> I can't convict you of a crime. >> No, no, suspect me of committing a crime. It's real simple. Well, when you go and kick a government vehicle, yeah. >> Yeah, if I had kicked it. If. I'm not going to play your game with you. No, I don't want to either. I wouldn't either. I just need your information and then I don't need to talk to you no more. Okay. Well, if you guys don't know who I am, that's cool. I don't remember. The discussion now shifts toward constitutional protections. The resident references the Fourth Amendment, which protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures unless the government can justify its actions with lawful authority. That's why I'm asking. >> That's okay. That's okay. That's why I've been here before and did the same crap with you. You weren't here before? >> Yes, I was. With the skinny little guy? Okay. Uh yep. All right. Well, yeah, cuz I I like to I like to honor the oath of the Constitution. I like my Fourth Amendment. Okay. I like it cuz then when I go to jail or court when I go to court and they say, "Did you suspect him of a crime?" and you say, "He allegedly kicked the car." That's me suspecting you of a crime. Yep. Yeah, but there's no proof of that or any of that into that. Do you have any like law degree or anything? Do you? What law What school did you go to? I study criminal justice, so. >> Okay, same here. Yeah. Your body cam on? We don't have body cams, sir. We don't have body cams. Yeah. No accountability. You recording me right now? Yeah, cuz I wouldn't be able to get any other way. Do you have a cell phone on you and you're using it? Because I'm not required to use my cell personal cell phone to record you. Okay. But body cams will be coming soon. Depending on the year. >> Hey, you guys got a lot of cool guys in the sheriff's department. I guess that I just don't know why we have to be difficult when I'm just asking for you to identify yourself. >> Man, I just don't know why you can't honor the oath that you took. What oath am I not honoring? Constitution. I have the right to be secure in my person, my papers, and my effects without a warrant. You can't do nothing. You have to have a warrant. >> you when I suspect you of a crime. Yeah, cuz it's my person, my papers, and my effects. You might want to look at Missouri state law. Well, state law doesn't trump the Constitution, so Well, you're in the state of Missouri, so I'm not in the state of Missouri. You are in the state of Missouri. Well, that's going to have to be proven in court, too. Good claim, good legal claim. >> What's your address? It's 755 21 North 18th, which is an address in Doniphan, Missouri, which means you are in the state of Missouri. Oh. That's real crazy, ain't it? It is, because you just made a legal claim. That's even crazier that the sheriff's department makes legal claims while on duty. What's that means? Hi. What did they say? Well, they just asked me random questions. >> What did they ask? Um they asked about if somebody put their hands on me. And then they asked about what's my favorite thing. They asked really silly personal questions. >> Give me Give me one Give me one question about the hands thing. What's that about? Like in a private spot, like I did a like a so many illustrations. And what did you tell them? I told them no. Okay. I'm not surprised. Who's allowed to touch you? Who? Mommy. And that's it. And who else? The doctor? Yes. Mommy and the doctor, you're correct. Nobody else touches you, right? Yeah. Great. That's being recorded, too, in case you guys have some like thing you want to say. >> You're borderline coercing right now, too, so No, it's not coercing. Asking my daughter a question is easy. I'm going to say isn't this correct? That's That's coercion. I don't know. Uh without a warrant, he wants to do some stuff. And right now, since we didn't we didn't want him here, we didn't call him here, he's trespassing. And it doesn't matter if anybody else calls him. >> A call for service doesn't mean you get to come on somebody's property without being invited. >> an emergency investigation. You're It doesn't Yeah, if the kids are hurting somebody in the home, you don't have to argue because you're wrong. It's fine. It's fine. It's It's It's to be wrong. So, now okay to stay there. Encounters like this highlight the tension between police authority and constitutional protections. Under the Fourth Amendment, officers must clearly explain the specific facts that justify detaining someone and demanding identification. When that justification relies only on accusation without clear articulation, courts often examine whether the detention itself was lawful, showing why understanding constitutional rights during police encounters is so important.
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