Hi. Sorry that you're here again, but I'm trying to take my son's cell phone. >> Okay. >> And he is refusing to give it to me. So, he called 911. I'm sure you have been briefed by them. >> Yeah. >> He called them telling them that I'm trying to punish him for no reason. I don't First of all, I don't need a reason to take his phone. It's a privilege to have a phone. Second of all, I do have a reason to take his phone. He's being defiant. And that's warrant to take his phone away. And I'm going to take it away. He's grounded. His scooter is going to be gone. All of that. So, I'd appreciate you guys telling him because I don't want to physically take the phone away from him because I am afraid DCF's going to get involved. I'm not allowed to get close to my kids. You know, touching them is going to result in a battery charge. Parents aren't allowed to discipline their kids these days. If you could just ask him to hand over the phone to me. >> Where's he at? >> He's in his room. Okay. >> And I'll I'll get him. You can give the officers your phone because I'm going to take >> Well, no. No. I'm going to do actually. >> Can we Are we allowed to come inside? >> Go right there. Speak to them. >> No way. >> You're the one that called 911. >> Call. No, because you're about to call 911. You could You can do whatever you want. >> I told him I was going to call the police if he did not give the phone to me. >> Okay. >> I know you guys have been over here plenty of times >> and you know that she's crazy. And I was just going to follow my sister. We both agreed that she's freaking crazy. Every time he and I have a disagreement, he calls my older daughter who's 22 years old, who lives a few streets down and they collaborate together. >> We know what's happening. >> Okay. So, my problem is is law enforcement's at this doorstep over a phone. So, give the phone. It's not It's parenting. It's a privilege. If you're being disgruntled, if you're being disrespectful, you're getting punished. It's what it is. >> Well, hold on. No. No. There's a reason. You don't You You don't know what's going on here. She's telling me, >> right? I don't know what's going on, but I see both of you bickering, arguing right now, so help me. What's going on, okay? >> She's trying to punish me and take my phone just because she I will help her talk to this lawyer to get her husband out of jail who abused me and abused her. Hit her right in the eye. She wants to freaking lie about it. So, she probably >> That's all a lie right there. >> No, it's not. Sir, sir, sir, please don't believe her. Please don't do her. I'm not going to lie to you about this. Okay. So, understand something. >> A safety thing. >> All right. Just understand you're not obligated to pitch into that stuff. Okay. You I I know you're a juvenile. Okay. I I understand. >> I've been threatened and and I had somebody land lay their hands on me. >> But I'm just trying to understand the the reason why we were called is because you told on 911 that you were being punished and that your phone was being taken away. None of that was said. Okay. So, I am here now over a phone and now this stuff's coming up. Okay, I get it. All right, you guys are a rockstar in a hard place and you are going to probably constantly be in a disagreeance, but a phone is a privilege. From >> my understanding, >> we're never going >> He's 14 and 12 years old. He still has to listen to me. I think >> I understand that. But you got to understand, I can't force anything. All right. >> Exactly. So, so he can't just leave. Come on. He can't just leave. [laughter] >> Who's going to leave? The officer? >> Yes. Cuz he CAN'T DO NOTHING. >> YOU'RE THE ONE THAT CALLED 911. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, SIR, never mind. Bye. Like, bye. Like, bye. Bye. Like, you can't do nothing. >> Well, we have >> Okay. >> We have Teresa here. She could help us. I'm sure you've spoke with her before. >> Hey. >> Hi. I'm going to be very honest with you. Are you with GCF? >> No. No. >> Okay. Well, I had your I had a lady Beth from DCF come over to my house last week about an argument that took place between me and my son and my husband. My husband was arrested last night >> at 2:00 in the morning on battery, assault, and child charges because of my son right here. Okay. I'm in the process of getting him a lawyer because these are just the this is just untrue and unjust and unfair and this shouldn't be happening right now. As you can see, I I reported my son for 3 minutes. He wasn't acting like this, but he's even being disrespectful to this officer right here. My son's the one that called 911 because I tried to take his phone away >> because having a phone is a privilege. I bought it. I can take it away. >> I bought him an electric scooter. I can take that away. And I'm going to I don't even know where it is right now. He probably has it hidden. He every time me and him have a disagreement, he calls my older daughter who's 22 years old and they collaborate and corroborate together and they gang up on me and attack me because neither one of them like my husband. So, they're going to do anything they can to get my hus my son's been doing this from the beginning. When I got divorced, he never wanted me to get remarried. He never wanted there to be another man in the house because he thought with my ex-husband gone, he was the man in the house. Now there is a stepfather and he doesn't like that because he can't get away with doing what he wants to do. He wants to go come and go whenever he wants which he does. I cannot stop him. He smokes. I don't know what else he's doing. >> I want I want to get tested. Mhm. >> He was just at a program in Palaca, the interface program for 35 days about a month ago, and he was doing okay when he first got out. And slowly and slowly and slowly he's slipping up again until it gets to this point where he basically just yelled at this officer and just told him to get out of here. And if you get the phone off, >> when you lose control over your own kids, what do you do? That's the >> Are you saying you're losing control over a phone? >> No, I've lost control over my son. He comes and goes. >> Have you tried the methods that we provided you? >> He completed a 35day program in Palaca a month ago. He was there for 35 days straight. And when he got back, he was doing good at first for about a week. After about a week, he started slowly slowly slipping up until it got to right where he was before he went. >> All right. Now, have you tried, you know, looking into potentially a different program, and I know it sucks, but maybe that one just wasn't cutting out, especially since he's been there for quite some time. >> That program was free. >> I kind of Are they allowed to take him back, but for an extended period? They're allowed, they are allowed to take him back, but only for another 35 days and only if there's a bed available. >> Okay, try again. Maybe the first time didn't work, second time it might. But if you do it three, four, five times, then we're looking at the definition of of insanity. So, >> on whose part? His or mine? I just in general cuz if the facility is not working the first time and then it's not working the second time, it's not going to work the third or fourth or fifth. Then we're going to have to branch out to other resources cuz I'm sure there's got to be another >> Yeah. My my preference would be to put him in a boot camp or like a militarized like >> but those things cost thousands of dollars that I don't have. >> Correct. And I totally understand, especially with nowadays with financial things, like it it can >> I don't I have a four-month-old, an 18-month-old, and six other kids. My husband's in jail. Like, what do you what do they want from me? You know, I I'm about to be homeless. So, like, what more do they want from my family, from my life? I'm not quite sure. My son doesn't give a crap because he thinks he could just go and move in with his sister over there even though it's not even her house. It's her grandmother's house and she already said he could not live there. >> Well, that's that's that's all that is not the point. It's that you have custody and you make those decisions. >> Exactly. But I might I might as well not have custody at all because he does whatever he pleases. He is as big as me. He's stronger than me. And if I try to physically stand in his way like I did today before he called 911, he's going to try to physically push me out of the way, which he did. >> So the issue that I have, I'm going to be straight up with you about this phone thing is we talked about it up there. He you want the phone one because of the disrespect that he has towards your husband as well. We mentioned up there that it was something because he doesn't realize how crappy his been dealing with. >> That's situation. >> Another thing, but it's it's really because he disrespects me. It all stems from his disrespect to me. >> What was What did he do today? >> He was yelling at me. He was getting in my face. He was saying, "No, I'm not going to give you the phone. I tried to physically take it from him. He pushed my hand out of the way. I tried to block He tried to leave. I tried to block his way in the door. He tried to push past me. He's taunting me, poking me. I call that disrespect. >> Genuinely, based off the fact that your husband's in jail and we're punishing him and wanting his phone because of that, that's where I have an issue. >> Well, that's not even I'm not going to worry about, you know, >> that's not even the issue here. The issue here is the disrespect I've had. This officer here will tell you, I don't know if you've been to my house before, but he has. and he will tell you that I have had this issue with my son before. >> Mhm. >> Okay. He He's been here. I I don't even know. Maybe you witnessed my son screaming and mouththing off to me. >> I haven't witnessed it >> actually. Maybe I >> until a little earlier where you guys were inside having >> I think I showed you a recording part of it. I I made a longer >> I think I Yeah, I remember that. >> I made a longer recording that something happened to it and I had to show him a shorter one. But I record these things, so I have proof. Okay? >> But the better portion of it is, sure, you have all that rights to take that phone away. But if you know it's going to escalate and you two are going to fight and potentially either you or him go to jail, you best just avoid it and reroute to something else. If he has a console, a scooter, a bike, take those away. Worry about those. In time, you will get that phone. As of right now, emotions are really high. Okay? We cannot disagree disagree about that. Okay? They're really high. >> Slept on. I don't know if you guys know everything. >> Mom, they don't know and it doesn't matter. >> Yeah, it does. >> But I can assure you're in a lot of stress, especially with 2:00 a.m. last night. You said it. How late, early, however you want to consider it. I I bet I I believe you didn't sleep because of all the stress that you just endured in the last 20 12 hours. >> It's not just what I've endured. It's been what I've been enduring since last December. >> Oh, believe me. And like you said, I've been here before. I I know. I've been here. You have a lot of stress. I know. and my son still has the freedom to go and do whatever he pleases with no consequences. >> That's why I'm trying to give you a suggestion if one way is not working. And that's why I keep bringing up the phone part because I know you want that phone. You want >> Don't Don't let the phone be an issue right now. >> Don't let that bother you. That's not the point. >> You might feel safe with that phone right now. That might be a safety thing. So, let him just just chill, okay? Just chill with it. It's going to be okay. You got to calm down and get sleep. I'm going to >> I honestly don't want your help. >> It's going to be okay. I know it. Come on. >> I don't want your help, Mom. I don't want it. I don't need it. None of this should be happening right now. None of it. I have to leave my country. I have to leave everything I know and start over somewhere in a dangerous country that I don't know if I'm going to survive. Okay. All because of this. Does anyone care? No, they don't. My kids are innocent in this. And they are they belong here. We all belong here and we all have to leave because my husband isn't allowed to stay here all because of this. And my son doesn't give a [ __ ] He calls me delusional, crazy, psychotic. He says I should go to jail. [laughter] All of these things. Not only that, my older daughter has been turned against me. My my three older daughters have been turned against me because of what my son tells them. Okay? And because they hated me already because of things that happened in their life many years ago that they still hold grudges against. So everyone is against me. >> No one's against you. We all love you. >> They all are. >> No, we're all trying to make sure you're okay. I don't want to keep you guys here anymore. >> No, you're Listen, I just a lot a lot a lot of it helps when you get it off your chest. And I am so sorry you're going through this and >> because he's sorry. No, >> I'm not I'm not talking about him. >> Stop doing it. If he really cared about his mom, stop doing this. >> Listen, listen to me. I am here right now talking to you to ensure you that some people do care. Okay? I've been here a plenty I I've been here a couple of times, okay? I care about you. Hell, I care about everyone. We're about to be We can't pay our bills. I'm about to be living in a shack on a piece of property with a bed and an air conditioner in it with eight kids because I can't even pay my bills because my husband's not allowed to work even though he built half of this town. >> I'm going to help you pay the bills. >> He's been working in this town since it was just a few back roads. >> Listen, listen. You You're saying that you haven't had support and everyone is against you, but someone next to you is helping. >> My mom's the one that called DCF on me. >> But she's not going to let you rot. >> Mom, I'm still waiting for you to admit that. And you won't. And you probably never will. Even if she's not the one that actually made the call. She's the one behind it. >> I have no idea who made the call. Okay. >> My brother-in-law. >> The past may be struggling, but you got to focus on right now. Okay? You have support right here. Don't just assume she called DCF because if you drill that in your mind and you let that build, you're gonna hate her. >> One of my family members called DCF, >> right? But that's the thing. You can't point fingers until you know >> everyone's concerned about what happened. >> If you look at everyone and blame everyone for your current situation, they're all going to be against you. They're not helping me. They're just making >> someone's trying to help you and she's not >> my situation was already like because my husband is awaiting a federal sentence. Who knows how long he's going to get. Once that's done, we're getting deported immediately. And now we have this to deal with on top of it, >> you know, like >> I'm talking about I'm talking about support. >> Everyone is worried. They love you. They're worried about you. >> I don't know why everybody's worried about me. >> Your son was hurt and you were hurt by this. >> Nobody was hurt. There is an allegation or multiple allegations going around. Nobody will tell me who said it and to whom and to what was said. I'm in the dark about all of this. That me and my husband hit each other. My husband gave me two black eyes, smashed the window out to my car. The >> and and with and getting in physically putting hands on my son. None of these things happened. I was there the entire time and I was so I was watching everything. I didn't leave the room for a second. So, I don't know. You know, my daughter, my older daughter is angry at me. So, she her dad is in prison for 20some years. And, you know, she's got a lot of resentment. And >> why would your daughter be angry at you? >> To be honest with you, I don't know. Because she thinks that I haven't been in her life as much as I should have been, that I haven't been involved as much. >> So, she seems neglected. >> She's 22 years old. She's a college graduate. She has a good job. She makes money. She has a car. I mean, she has everything. She doesn't have to live. She doesn't live on her own. She doesn't pay her own bills. She lives 5 minutes away. She never comes to visit me. She never calls me. She never answers my text messages. And then she wants to be angry at me. So, what am I supposed to do? Kiss her? Beg for forgiveness? >> Oh, you do whatever you feel is right. >> I'm sorry. We We just didn't want to make you feel like you left. >> I just took the door off the hinges. He grabbed it out of the garage. She's trying to put it back on. Next up, let me go to He's behind the door. >> Is it okay if we >> Hey, Cruz. I told you this wasn't. >> Can I come in for a second? Is it just me? Mom went in the kitchen. Mom, I don't really want to microwave down. >> It's just me. Mom went in the kitchen. I promise. >> Can we boil? >> I want to talk to you before I leave. What we're doing and everything. >> You got to understand what's in your arms. That's not good for the environment of the baby. >> None of this is good for >> I know that, but you're not listening what I'm saying. You just got to dial it down a little bit. That's not okay for him. >> I just I want him to go with my mom. That's why I'll take him >> because if not, >> he said when she was ready to go, he would go. I told him that if he refuses that you guys are going to call us back and then we'll come back out. But and I'll take him with me. I'm going to get the other kids McDonald's and you >> Hey, we're back again. So, here's the thing. All right. You were being placed under arrest. All right. Go ahead. Put your hands behind your back. >> I need to call my mom and my children here. >> All right. We are going to have that arranged. Okay. >> I have my children in that room. >> I understand. >> Why am I being placed under your arrest >> for child? >> What did I do? >> We have the deputy that has that information here. So, if you have those questions, we're going to >> show. Yeah. >> Go in the room with the kids and call Nana on my phone and call Aunt Carrie, too. Tell them I'm being arrested. >> It's right there under my pillow. We're going to step outside. >> Can I wait for my son to get a hold of someone, please? I have two babies under here >> for someone to come over here and look after them. >> Yes. A >> We're going to worry about that. >> Who's I It's going to be your mom. We're going to >> Yeah, your mom's coming over here. >> Okay. So, we're not leaving anywhere until she gets here, right? >> Yeah. You are not in control of this. We have Teresa here to look after that until someone gets over here. Okay. So, now you have to comply with us and you have to step out. >> Can I put some pants on? How am I >> Are those blue Crots your shoes? >> No, they're not. I would like to know how I'm being arrested for abuse. >> Okay. Well, we have the deputy over here to further explain that for you if you come right this way. She wants a little bit of an understanding of what's going on right now. >> Yeah, I really do. >> We'll um just go to the car real quick and then I'll >> Okay, we're going to go to my car over here. We're going to cut through the grass. You have a seat. >> When is somebody going to um tell me what's going on? >> Just give it momentarily that deputy, the corporal is going to come over here. is going to further explain it to you. Okay, you just got to be a little bit patient. You will get your answers here in just a moment. Okay, so just hang tight for just watch your >> what child charge I'm being charged with. >> Child there there has to be a case or a situation or something. It can't just be child. There has to be a circumstance or something. I know that regarding the same circumstances. >> Okay. But what what am I being charged with hitting my kid one of my kids or what what what exactly am I being I don't understand. I'm still trying to understand that. I haven't hit my kids. And you can ask all of them. >> So I I don't I I I don't understand. You don't necessarily have to hit your kid, but being >> I don't neglect my kids. >> That that is what >> you're getting charged with. >> I'm getting charged with >> the neglect sideing to act while he's being hit by >> Okay, that never even happened. So, I certainly didn't fail to act at all. I've got multiple people saying >> the mother was charged with child neglect without great bodily harm and tampering with a witness, a thirdderee felony. Her bond was set at $2,500 on the tampering charge, while the neglect charge carried no bond at the time of arrest. She remains innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law.