Do you guys have a warrant? Cuz, um, I >> Well, I already told you we don't have a warrant. We don't have to have a warrant. Then why are you here, then? We're trying to get to that. We're just trying to set the basis for our conversation with you. Well, you could get to it now, please, if you don't mind. What did you say? Officers arrive at a private residence attempting to question a man about alleged communications. Without presenting a warrant or clear legal basis, they initiate contact. The resident remains inside asserting his rights. The encounter quickly centers on whether he is required to engage without lawful authority. Can I help you? Yeah, it's the police. We'd just like to talk to you for a second. Um, you don't mind me me filming you? >> No, no, I don't. No, we we film too, so that's okay. It's okay. Okay. Is there a reason you don't want to open the door? Um, I just like to like to, um, exercise my rights to, um, um, talk through the, um, the walls. It's just just my right. It's just my rights. Okay, is there a reason you don't want to come to the door? Typically, people aren't aren't really free to talk to us. What's that? Is there a reason you know why we're here? No sir. You know why we're here? Explain explain why you're here. Sam, do you think you might know what we're here in regards to? No. No, madam. I'm not obliged to answer any questions, um, The Fifth Amendment protects the right to remain silent during voluntary police encounters. Sam, why are you so nervous? We're just trying to talk to you. We didn't say you were in trouble. We didn't say we're going to do anything, right? We're just trying to talk to you. Sure. Um, I know you're obviously in a uniform. You you came to my door, and, um, you know, it's obvious you know, it is shocking that you can um come along and then sort of like start to you know, at some strange time of the day, um, what time is it now? Is it sort of the afternoon? Yeah, it's it's 3:00. Honestly, this would be a simple conversation. We could just sit down and talk. We just want to talk for a second about I Yeah. >> What is the big fear that you have? Like, we've been do super nice, not barging your doors, we want to talk. But, like, but, Sam, you have to understand, too, just because we don't know you, I don't feel comfortable talking to you from a window, right? It's just not safe from our perspective, cuz we we don't know what's inside your house, right? >> Well, So, just from our perspective, we'd rather just talk to you in in person. You can come outside, we can come inside. This is not good for us as police officers, so, okay? To be honest, I don't really know if it's good for me just to come out and talk to you. I feel it's just safer if I just from my own home. The Fourth Amendment protects individuals inside their home from warrantless entry or compelled interaction. I mean, do you have, um, particular warrant or, um, am I sort of, um, We don't have a warrant. >> am I being detained or anything? I told you we just came to talk to you to get your side of the story, right? And I'm not sure why you're I I'm not sure why you're acting the way you are, right? Typically, people who have nothing to hide are kind of just come out and talk to us. >> Oh, sure, I don't have nothing to hide. Okay, well, your behavior is kind of peculiar. Excuse me? It's Your behavior is a little bit odd, okay? Well, I'm just basically in my own home. I I heard, you know, a massive bang on the door, and I thought Is the echo kind of loud, so we want to make sure you can hear us And I I and it's just routine for me to film, um, That's okay, and we film, too, so that's okay. But, that's why I told you, Sam, that we're police officers, right? I wanted to make it clear to you, so that you know who we are, and that's why we're banging on your door, cuz we're trying to get a hold of you. We're trying to talk to you. Okay. Okay, does that make a little bit more sense now? Refusing to engage does not create suspicion. Constitutional rights are not dependent on cooperation. Okay, we're we're police officers Yeah. >> from the Pasadena Police Department. >> Pasadena Police Department. You're a >> banged on your door and your window, so that you could come talk to us. Right. >> We weren't sure if anybody was home, so we wanted to make sure if you were home that you would come talk to us. You are C. Rosa. What's your number? Oh, what what number are you talking about? My ID number? >> Yes. 7653 76593 No, 67653 7653, and you are Winkler. Winkler. Yeah. N. Winkler, and your number is 9511 9511 1 9511 Sam Hughes? Um, am I obliged to give you my ID? >> This You're making this a lot longer and stronger than it has to be. It's a pretty basic We we could have already been gone by now. You're making this really weird. Well, I mean, uh, You you you are making this a bit weird. I mean, the question is as again, do you guys have a warrant? Identification is not required unless there is a lawful detention supported by reasonable suspicion. Is, um, No, I already told you we don't have a warrant. We don't have to have a warrant. Then why are you here, then? We're trying to get to that. We're just trying to set the basis for our conversation with you. Well, you could get to it now, please, if you don't mind. What did you say? You could get to it a little quicker as to why you're here, cuz it's, uh, Well, you're the one that's prolonging it, not us. >> You know, I was just having a little rest in the room. I had a big knock on the door, and then I I sort of like thought, um, you were there's all two people in sort of uniform, and then >> Yeah, we've established that. Yeah. Yeah, and we already explained to you who we are and why we're here. We've already been over that, okay? And there's something you're looking around. Are you nervous about something? Excuse me? Are you Are you looking around right here? We just want to talk to you. I don't know what you're looking Well, I mean, I don't It's not odd, right? I don't really have to talk to you, because, uh, it's my right not Well, this is Listen, like my partner said, this is a chance for you to use your side of what we're about to tell you. So, it's in your best interest to talk about it, okay? You see, this this I feel this would violate Fourth Amendment constitutional rights. >> not. Just so you know, it's not. Well, it sort of is, because you're you're not really coming to, uh, you're not really telling me what's the problem. You know? You you you just come randomly to my door. Nervousness alone does not establish reasonable suspicion or justified detention. Can we move on? Go ahead. Talk. Okay. It's my understanding that you go to group meetings and you are, uh, associate with certain, uh, people you wish to work with on LinkedIn. You know, understand Do you know the the website? >> It didn't sit very well. Okay, perfect. You do. Do you remember sending messages to a Teresa? I No, don't know of any Teresa. Okay. Do you remember meeting a woman at Raymond in Raymond, Colorado? Raymond, Colorado at Crossroads? No. You exchanged business cards, and then you told her she was cute and asked her out for coffee? I don't know of any thing. I'll get on your level. Chiara Scarab Muzino. >> Don't know. Don't know. Not very clear on >> You have no recollection of emailing her? Okay. Okay. Well, you know, I Just so you know, we have all those emails, okay? So, we know that you emailed her. Okay. It's pretty clear. Has your picture. Okay. So, we're not going to play this game. I was trying to be honest with you. I'm trying to give you a chance to speak your side. Now's your chance, right? Cuz all we're going to do is we're going to write up a case if you don't want to give your side of it. Now's your chance to give us Well, I don't really have to talk to you. You don't, and that's why we're here to talk to you to see if you wanted to tell us your side of the story. If you don't want to tell us your side of the story, then we will just write up a case against you, okay? Okay. No, I don't want to I'm going to say anything. I It's my right to say nothing to the police. Okay. All righty. Well, we'll send you >> satisfied? No, I'm not. This doesn't change anything for me. No, it's the same for I wish I really would have liked to hear your side of the story. That's all. I have no interest in this, like, as far as I'm not swaying either side. I'm for the victim and the suspect. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. And so, right now, our our our topic is some emails you gave to a female, and then some other another another anonymous emails that she received, and now someone's scared for their life. So, I want to make sure you weren't part of that. >> The emails were pretty inappropriate and very threatening. So, obviously, that's a crime. You can't threaten people, and you can't harass Well, I know the law. Um, Okay. But, um, So, that's where we're at. So, like I said, if you don't want to tell us your side of the story, then we're done here. Okay. Okay. Okay, do you want to talk to us? Um, All righty. All right, good day. Good day. Have a good day. This encounter highlights the core protections: the Fourth Amendment right to remain secure inside the home without a warrant, and the Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. The officers never establish a clear legal basis for detention, yet continue to press for statements. Knowing when an encounter is voluntary and when rights apply is critical in situations like this.