Who's running the show right now? Cuz everybody's giving me like half of two cents. What crime do you suspect me of committing? >> say there's any crime right now. >> So, what am I being detained for? In this video, a man parked in his RV across from an elementary school becomes the focus of a police response after someone calls 911 reporting a suspicious vehicle. Officers arrive and immediately demand identification. Under the Fourth Amendment, police may briefly detain someone only if they can articulate reasonable suspicion that a specific crime occurred. What begins as a simple call quickly turns into a dispute over whether officers can legally detain him without identifying a crime. >> Are you asking for my ID? Is it because I'm on private property or is it because I'm suspicious? Because we're called here for a suspicious person. That's why that works. >> Okay, then I don't wish to identify myself. Well, then we're going to have to talk about that. Okay, let's talk about it. Do you not want to talk about it anymore? No, we're going to we're not going anywhere. Oh, okay. Am I free to go or am I being detained? >> No, you're detained right now. >> What crime do you suspect What crime What crime are you detaining me for? >> You're not Like I said, we're right now just looking at your We We called This is called in as a suspicious person. That's someone sitting in their car. Is that a Is that a misdemeanor or a felony being suspicious? Is that a misdemeanor or a felony being suspicious? >> to identify and we're just trying to identify >> And I'm trying to figure out why I'm being detained. All right. Why am I being detained? >> We're trying to figure out who you are and what you're doing here. That's it. What crime do you suspect me of committing? All right. We didn't say there's any crime right now. >> So, what am I being detained for? Because right now we're sitting It was called in as a suspicious person. >> What crime do you suspect me of committing to be detaining me right now? >> Right now you're parked on private property. I can't leave because you're detaining me though. What crime do you suspect me of committing to be detaining me right now? >> So, can I can I explain, sir? Who Who's the leader right here? >> May I explain? >> Who's the leader right here? Are you in charge? >> I'm not in charge now. Who's in charge? Are you in charge, sir? >> No, no. Our sergeant is occupied right now. Can I explain what's going on? >> Don't touch me. No. No, I won't if Can I just explain? >> No. What am I being detained for? >> Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to answer it for you, pal. Okay. >> Okay? So, can I explain? Yeah, but I'm asking what crime I'm not asking for an explanation. I'm asking what crime do you suspect me of committing that I'm being detained for right now. >> Well, technically it's trespassing because this is private property. Notice how the explanation shifts. The officers initially state there is no crime, then describe the call as a suspicious person, and eventually suggest trespassing. Under the Fourth Amendment, officers must have a consistent and articulable reason for detention. Changing the legal justification during the encounter can raise questions about whether reasonable suspicion actually existed. >> So, he explained to you So, but I have to I have to refuse to leave though. No, no. No, no. No, not true. So, Everybody wants to give like half a cent. >> No, I'm trying to explain >> You said You said your You said your You said your supervisor's coming, correct? >> No, he's not coming. You asked if I was in charge and I said no. Okay. So, who's running the show right now? Cuz everybody's giving me like half of two cents. >> There's three police on scene. Three police are in charge. >> And what crime do you Are you detaining me for currently? >> answered Trespassing? >> Trespassing. We need to ID you. We're not trying to charge you with a crime. >> You have to have a trespass warning first. You have to give me You have to give me permission to leave. You can't just give me a ticket for trespassing. >> to give you a ticket, pal. >> Then what ID What do you need ID for? >> You're detained because of that. I'm not trying to give you a ticket for anything. You understand that? >> I don't understand that cuz if >> why we're out here, if I can explain. The whole reason why we're out here No, no. You're in an RV parked across from an elementary school. >> Correct. That's the reason why we're here because you could probably agree with us that it is suspicious to wait in an RV the entire day across from an elementary school. Wouldn't you agree? No. Okay. Well, in the eyes of the law, that is suspicious and you are Really? In the eyes of the law, that's suspicious? Where in the law does it say that an RV across from a school is suspicious? >> It doesn't have to say it anywhere. >> Okay, that's very ambiguous. Reasonable suspicion must be based on specific objective facts, not general feelings or assumptions. Courts have ruled that behavior must be linked to a potential criminal offense, not simply something an officer personally considers unusual. >> So, I understand you all want to come out and make contact with me, cool. But to have three police officers say, "No, you're detained." after you make contact me with me and I'm willing to leave, that's unacceptable to me. So, that's why I'm just not willing to deal with y'all right now. I feel like this Okay. If you're I'm trying to explain it to you. Well, I mean, what What's your end goal here being here? Do you want me to stay or leave? Do you want [snorts] me We'd like to identify you. So, you So, your whole purpose of stopping here is just to ID me. It's not to get me to leave the property in general. So, I don't understand how that helps your basis of of trespassing. >> it would would be best if you left, but right now we need to ID you before anything happens. >> Okay. Well, at this time I'd like to remain silent. Yeah. I'm just here because I'm a school officer on the school call. That's all. Okay. I apologize cuz I don't know if you were working all day, but no one came by to make contact with me earlier. >> officers here and they saw you. Okay, yeah. Um to my point, there's no no trespassing signs in front. >> it. My experience, we've had people over here and I'm not even accusing this. I've had guys taking pictures of kids. We've had sex offenders around. I'm not I'm not even on a I I don't even want to Okay, I don't want to talk to you anymore. Okay. Call me a pedophile. No, no, I didn't Disgusting. You have Get Get out of here. Freaking disgusting. Have a gun on your hip. I don't consider you a murderer. Ridiculous. Wow. I don't wish to answer any questions. Well, Is this thing registered? I don't wish to answer any questions. So, this isn't registered. Our plates aren't coming back to anything right now. That's the problem. Am I still being detained? Yeah. Can I request the sergeant come out? He's a little bit busy right now, but we're just trying So, am I not able to request a sergeant? Sure, but he's busy now. >> Okay, I would like to request a sergeant then, please. Well, we still got to figure this out. >> Man. Okay. Can I still Is that going to hinder for me requesting a No, we can have a supervisor. It's going to be a little bit. Okay, before he's requested or before he comes out? >> Before he comes out. Okay, that's fine. Can we go ahead and request him then? Or do you not want to do that? Cuz now you're just walking away when I'm asking for a supervisor to come out. Y'all want to act like, "Oh, I'm just having a conversation with you." When it comes time to me asking something specific, y'all want to walk off and do whatever. >> Are you curious where our sergeant is right now? >> No, I'm I'm curious why I cannot ask for a sergeant to come out. >> You could. He's on a medical call, which takes priority over your request. >> It takes up my request, my rights. I'm just asking to Y'all are crazy. Okay. So, >> and we could say no. Okay, then say no. He's saying yes, but then walking away. Yeah. Well, he he's on a >> So, that's why my response is like, "How are you going to say yes and walk away?" And then you get all defensive, "He's on a medical call." If he would have said that, cool. But he didn't say that. >> defensive about anything. Well, y'all are detaining me, so you're very defensive. >> I'm not. I'm doing my job. >> You're not doing In my opinion, not doing Yeah. >> have any opinion you want. At the end of the day, we are doing our job. >> Okay. Well, you're still talking about me about whatever. >> Whatever opinion you want. That's fine. What do you do for a living? Are you in law enforcement? I do not wish to answer any questions and at this time I'm going to remain silent. This is sick, man. You got somewhere to be? Again, I'm I wish to remain silent at this point. I'm not Okay. >> No, cuz what I'm saying to you is like we could totally get you on your way if you could just provide us your information. You'd be on your way in 2 minutes. I don't believe That's the only missing piece. That's it. I don't believe I've committed any crime to be warranting me to ID myself. I feel like criminals have to ID themselves. I'm I haven't done anything wrong. Sure. If you have nothing to hide, then there's nothing wrong with you providing your information. >> If you don't have any law to state that I have to provide ID, then you have no right to ID me. >> We explained it to you. I disagreed with you, so we're waiting for a sergeant to come, I guess, after his medical call. We're not obligated to have a sergeant respond here at all. Okay, and I'm not obligated to answer any of your questions. Okay, but so nevertheless, you still are detained. Okay. And then we'll just be detained >> what? The rest of the day? I don't know. That determines on you. You're running the show right now, not me. It doesn't determine any determines me. Yes, because you're because you're detaining me. I'm not detaining myself. I would like to leave at this point. >> Sure. You're saying I'm detained, so that's on you. So, you're running the show, not me. Yes. And I could this entire thing you'd be on your way in a couple minutes if you just provided your information. But you're refusing to do that. So, that's why we're here at a standstill. Okay. So, we'll just remain at a standstill. Okay. George, right? All right. You're on body camera as well, okay? Okay. All right. So, Is there any way that I can just see your license and then you'll be moved on your way. That's it. If We already know what the registration is on the vehicle and all that stuff. >> Again, I don't wish to answer any questions and I wish to wish to remain silent at this point. >> Okay. But listen. Right now you're on township property. That That's what we're talking about. And we're just asking just for your driver's license. That's it. We identified who owns the vehicle and you said it was you, correct? You're Matthew Privo? We just want this done so then we can get out of your hair here. That's all that we're looking to do here. We're not looking to violate any rights or anything like that. You can I said we're all recording as well. We all have our body cameras on and our MVRs on right now. All right? That's all we need to know and then we're going to get out of your hair. That's all that we need. Confirm with the DL picture. Did you? Mhm. All right. So I don't really know what the big deal is here but you can go. >> So I'm I'm not longer being detained? No. We finally identified >> Excellent. Thank you very much. This encounter highlights a key constitutional principle. Under the Fourth Amendment, officers must have a clear and lawful reason before detaining someone. In this interaction, the justification shifts from a suspicious person call to possible trespassing, even though officers initially admit no specific crime. The man also invokes his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent, reinforcing that citizens have the right to question the legal basis of a detention.