when a sheriff's deputy responded to a
911 hang-up hi what come here the
situation quickly spiraled out of
control prompting officers from all over
to provide backup 230 County we're in
war we'll take a close look at how the
police deal with a barricaded suspect
who has lost all reason stop stop
Anthony and answer the age-old question
all the steps now with your hands on
what's hotter scorching Pringles or
pepper
spray is it is it I little war on June
18th 2022 at approximately 21 p.m. an
officer with the Dunn County Sheriff's
Office accompanied by a civilian Ride
Along arrived at the rural residence of
a 911 hang-up call the officer intended
to investigate but what happened next
caught everyone off
guard domastic
that
abuse hi what come
here on your knees
now
no come here you'll be teed stop I
didn't do anything get on the ground I
get
down 230 County we're in Ro where he
at never 230 counting myself 207 and 27
or 23 help me please please help me
please help
me hey come here come here at this point
the officer deployed pepper spray
however it seemed to have more impact on
the officer than it did the suspect what
the guys
doing stop stop Anthony
no you two stand in front of my
car get in the
car cover the East Side ad
male what's
up we got a guy up stairs
yeah what do you do Kyle take a minute
group yourself what happened show up
they need no additional unit this
upstairs okay let me get Ranger what did
he do let me hold on just regroup just
regroup what
happened Oneil
upstairs spray you no idea I got
residual okay residual SE spray one M
upstairs let me grab Ranger come down
here now K9 come down K9 is coming in
Sheriff's office there any firearms in
the house any guns in the
house what's what's going on apparently
there's a fight here who who called you
I there was a 911 call from this
residence who is the male that ran
upstairs Anthony s is Anthony Rock
here watch out I I think I know he is is
okay
16 Anthony time to come out hey ma'am
could you come out on the what was he
supposed to do come on out here well he
just fought with an officer so we got a
problem oh we just have a seat right
over
there yep come on she's still on a no
contact here a no contact order is a
court order order issued by a judge
prohibiting an individual from having
contact with another and is enforceable
by law the terms of a no contact order
can vary widely depending on the
circumstances and the judge who issued
it violating such an order usually
results in fines misdemeanor or felony
charges and even jail time i'
imagine he's Way High Way drunk and joh
c and ining you un wagon lagon
leing I'll take
cars Anthony Sheriff's Office Kine is in
the house you're going to get
bit come down here with your hands up
now is that the only way to the upstairs
230 we have multiple subjects in the
house3
jeez okay how many how many people are
in the house still three people in here
well three normally hey ma'am somebody
else is here Sheriff's Office all
occupants of the house hey step out here
now with your hand well we'll explain it
to you but have a seat right here
okay Sheriff's Office Kine you upstairs
come out now with your hand in the air
or I'll s a dog and you won't be back
do we have the Northeast
cover mov dog coming dog coming dog
coming I have a
Northeast Sheriff's Office step to the
back door
now uh I could hear I could hear some
voes yep that's my part come down the
steps now with your hands off all
occupants come down
can you hear talking I can hear
talking um supposedly weapons in the
house she says no grandma says no but
with the characters here that's
not it's not uh High
likely Sheriff's Office whoever's up
there come down now you are
surrounded if it was just H just
you are surrounded come down now or you
will be
[Applause]
bit I'm not sure but we'll fill you in
on everything in a minute
ma'am so her and anthy were in the back
here uh he was being very aggressive
very uh hostile turned around saw me
like hey come here so I can t you turns
around tries to run taser struggle Drive
stun not
effective um OC I switched to OC hoping
that would affect uh then he barric then
he ran in barric himself so I knew you
guys were close so I wasn't going to
race into the house
here a sh just inside my backriver
driver side
doorold what is it just him I could hear
there was a female talk they talked to
her and the dude in Fr of my squad and
they said there's Anthony and two others
it sounds
like who's up besides
them I don't
know I ass soon they're probably trying
to find hiding spots hey ma'am is the
stairs over off the living room Roger
that 16 17
new units have them cover the
South there's another set of stairs okay
hey there's a second stairway going go
to the cell next is going to cover for
me then I'll join you in the
St office come on now ma'am you need to
go okay but you need to go sit outside
okay what you need to go sit outside cuz
we have a K9 dog we don't want you
accidentally get bit people upstairs gos
up we're going to send the dog you need
go ma'am ma'am if I could go upstairs we
can't have that we can't let you go
up we can hear you moving up there Cal
down now with your hands
up is surrounded 230 count called 219
she's the closest
car ma'am okay can I can you just sit
here no you need to sit outside you need
to go outside you need to go outside
otherwise you're going to have to stay
in that squad car because we can't keep
watching you okay yeah female's Pam with
red shirt that's why she's outside so
she is outside yes she's fine just sit
down ma'am where is she I'm not sure
she's with other cops sit down now do it
now you go verify who we have to those
people see y who else here yep
all right Pam right no no no who are you
I'm Cass
Cass C who do you want to seems there's
only two of us you want to pull back to
the door yeah maybe a goodidea
reran good boy good
man who all is in the house K 78y old
lady 78y old a who else and Pam so Pam
Tony
Anthony Anthony Anthony's the one I was
fighting with yeah so Anthony and
Pam and then yeah yep
okay watch these two if they run um know
where they're coming from then grab that
black microphone and we'll hear
you
huh
yeah all right kyon's here so stay po
is it just Anthony upstairs I have no
idea you don't know who was here with
you no okay
what you don't know who was all here
with
you Cam was and my son Anthony okay and
then one other
male okay was just you four then as far
as you know okay hey ma' they're right
out there in front of my in front of the
garage if you want to go see
himig Pam or something yep so just head
right over there you'll see
him 302 just pass us well then just hang
tight there
okay Pam is up there was she W
outside was she outside before no okay
we're going to need to do is get
somebody else in to come cover those
other stairs then we'll use one primary
set of stairs
okay I don't know which set of stairs is
going to be safer for us to use
but
17 how many unit do we have do we have
enough for perimeter so we don't have
jum cuz we'll need extra one here
three two just showed up once one more
gets there I'll join
you you guys were close yeah I didn't
realize you were here already I was
going to clear as soon as I got him out
of handcuffs and come up
here my saw him he was walking this way
around the corner soever like guy doing
yard work oh my God
accident as saw me
then we came in here Taser Taser went
back outside sprayed him then he
retreated and
then
than with backup on the way the officers
planned how they would safely move
upstairs and confront the suspect
um judging by the demographics of the
house I bet you that one would be an l
and that one would be more straight CH
get to off the yeah it's a loft there is
the only issue oh it is yeah sure those
are like old farmhous stuffs that was
skinny in yeah probably deep so you
think with the shield we're better off
going that one I get that
one do we have somebody on that side
[Music]
Sheriff's Office you're completely
surrounded is Anthony not supposed to be
here be here well I thought before he
was out on a bond not to be here let me
go
upstairs no we can't let you go up
Sheriff office we're not going anywhere
the out side of the house is completely
surrounded Sheriff K9 is on scene come
down now or you will get bit I can't
recall this t g I don't know
methamphetamine user that is very
appearing good boy good
Ranger somebody's moving Sheriff's
Office outside of the house is
completely
surrounded we are not going anywhere
you're under arrest come down now or you
will Sheriff's Office outside the house
is completely surrounded you're all
under
arrest now or Polie came little
bite
wagon whoever's on the driveway side
elderly female is coming your direction
to be with the others just keep an eye
on her she wants to go you're
surrounded 63 on the west side I'm
coming who's talking ham Ham's talk
outside to window there somebody talking
out the window now yeah who's talking to
no that's Gilbertson and that's uh 302
out there yeah I know but they're
talking to
somebody 23186 who you in contact
with stair you right on the corner okay
there's actually a double
stair yeah so we're going to have to
hold on one and go on one okay we have
uh 61 13s right here and then there's
two City units they training are we got
this whole area covered I got one on the
back 613 is out here and then um gild's
right outside here
so
see go
ahead contact with in the middle of the
house in
room down she's
get her
come cam come down
now this isn't a question responding
slow down okay one common I can hear
coming down
steps there's another set of steps over
there yep come down p with your hands up
with nothing in
them come this
way what
room bathroom come this way way way any
guns or knives up there that you know of
way I know of okay come this way you
know him to normally be a knif or gun
guy KN or gun
guy KN you need to come down
here she's out here
fine you need to come down here first
and then you can talk to him we will
promise you that let's move up
here Anthony you're under arrest this
isn't time for negotiations do as we say
or you will get bit I won my Atty I want
a doctor we're not well come down here
and we will get you a doctor but you got
to come down here
man Anthony you're going to end up
getting bit we got the dog in here Pam
confirmed he the only
one come on down here I want my attorney
I want to speak to Pam attorney come on
down here and we can work on that we are
not working on it I don't know you I
will speak all only to people's eyes no
well I'm Sergeant May I've met you
before I don't care and I've treated you
fairly before so let's come down here
and let's talk I'd rather have you come
just come down here
no you need to come down here I need to
speak to my attorney he will instruct
me Anthony I do not want to see you get
hurt okay that's my main goal
here I don't want to see anybody here
get
hurt but you need to come down here okay
you are
Liar come on down
here you need to come down here we're
not going to go
anywhere so let's just make it easier on
all of us so no one get Hur you in my
house and you not in fighting come show
us your hands okay you show me why I'm
being arrested
[Music]
come on down
here you are under so you need to come
down
here
now come on down here let's just
[Music]
talk let's talk come on down here Tony
the whole outside of the house is
surrounded we have about 20 cops and a
dog we don't want anyone to get hurt you
included come down without anything in
your hand so we can talk go
boy Tony we're not going to magically
disappear
really oh that's news you can come on
down here
okay and then you can talk to your mom
my mother is the authority of this house
and she and she alone will decide what I
what I will or will that she told me she
wants you to come
down speak to
my we want to send them I think we we
have we've reached that level to be able
to send them
so yeah yeah he's in a very uh
aggressive State probably you want on
I'm just saying we've reached that chain
of yeah progression yeah
we haven't got any uh ver response no
probably a minute or two Anthony sh
office police you are under arrest come
down now with nothing in your hands and
your hands up we have can9 on scene you
will be bit if you do not comply now how
was it work did you just let them run up
and we fall behind well I'll let go free
guessing if he's if he's in the bedroom
the door shut he'll sit there and
scratch and Mark at the door in the
bathroom she in the bathroom at least he
was when she came at that point we have
you got felony
charges well thing I mean he resisted it
was a verbal verbal domestic from what I
saw he was yelling screaming in her face
um he took off on me struggled I mean I
think this cuts from the when I grab the
uh
Shield under the circumstances I hate to
just
release I can keep braer on on
lead on long line and and that way I
still have control of them and we can
move up as a clear with long line sure
how long is the long line well I got a
longer one than this that's like 20 ft
how you want to do it cor uh with the
shield obviously do you want the yeah
well you stay with me we'll let him go
on lead but you stay close to me
withth I'm just coming through the let
me go grab his hardness and stuff here
come on here
[Music]
minut have we determined who made the
911 call yet not
clue why don't we go talk to Pam and
figure out what exactly was all going on
here
you know we got just misdemeanor not
going to let the dog up there
and probably going to just let him be
here is there still a no
contact 216 county is there still no
contact for
Anthony 2 just be
adved 16117 the other female uh
the one that we didn't recognize out
there she's the one that I believe was
uh in confrontation with them can you
ask her and uh kind of figure
out the
nutshell so the confrontation was with
that other female I believe
so where he at
he
fouron
three
with is a
TI to
Theon not going to let the dog off
because we don't end fell felling I
guess
yeah obviously we want the dog right
there right in you don't want to
cooperate yeah then I'll send then we're
going to send him y um but uh he's not
supposed to this res he's not supposed
to be in contact with any of these
people we
cooperation we've went through
the I mean taser was a effective we'll
see was an effect that so
yeah and I think we got fresh Pursuit
even though we're holding on oh yeah
noner traffic hold on Nemer traffic
show us your hands do it now so you step
up now you listener you're going to get
bit understand step up here
now now Anthony step up here
now we're not asking we're telling you
do it now we don't want you to get hurt
step up here step out of the tub right
now step out of the tub we'll give it
time come on take this let's go stand up
turn the water
off this isn't a
debate we've given you plenty of time
let's go come on step up I don't want to
see you get bit I don't want to see you
get hurt I don't want to see you get
shot by this foam round either it's
going to hurt
okay so it's time to step up the foam
round hurts way more than a taser OC I
promise you and we don't want you to see
you get hurt bring another officer up
here I think we're just going to grab
him the
yank do you have an extra
set do you need gloves rubbers
yeah Anthony I don't want to see you get
bit
man let's have
we need somebody that doesn't have a
long gun so we can make contact
here
Anthony Anthony step on Out Come
[Music]
on Anthony wake up are you are you on up
or
down are you on down or
up
Tony
17 the
driveway you two don't have anything go
and make contact
okay all right
ready Come on Anthony come on let's go
come on
let's go here where we
gotad on the ground on the
ground are you on up or
down
huh you're under arrest at this point
oh only one
open where you on
dude
what radi traffic radio traffic are you
a
heroin or
math got anything on you besides wet
[Music]
clothes then what's his name UOB wasn't
his Recon old even fental Le MK I'm
going to roll you to the side so I can
check do not kick it was he understand
me no I'm just saying the one in oh yeah
yeah yeah yeah that would explain why
he's up and now he's down uppers such as
meth or cocaine are stimulants while
downers such as alcohol or heroin act as
depressants when taken together one drug
can mask the effects of the other
increasing the odds of Overdose and
unpredictability of the user's Behavior
here let's roll in this other way let's
check
him wake up dude okay what are you on so
we can help you we can get him out of
the house yeah let's uh exate him out of
the house yeah that might actually not
be a terrible
idea hey can you do a
che need
did you take anything so he know how to
help
you
Tony Anthony did you take any drugs
today Anthony did you take any drugs
today Tony we need to help you so you
need to tell us did you take any drugs
today
oh he's smiling so he's with
it I love you
Mom once the suspect was secured with
EMS officers interviewed the other
occupants of the house no one claimed
responsibility for dialing 911 do you
know I didn't even know that I called I
uh no um it was 911 open call they
couldn't hear
nothing and police were unsuccessful in
their attempts to find out what drug if
any the suspect ingested that could
explain his erratic Behavior he's not
being chared with possession of nothing
because we don't have nothing on but so
the EMS can cuz he's messed up is so
they know how to treat him if they if he
needs Nan or something is he meth hairin
or
both I couldn't tell you I really don't
know that however officer Kyle was able
to determine what's hotter scorching
Pringles or pepper
spray is it is it I
War now he warming the pepper spray
according to court documents the suspect
pled guilty to a felony charge of
attempting to disarm a peace officer and
a misdemeanor bail jumping charge a
felony bail jumping charge and the
charge of resisting arrest were both
dropped He was ordered to serve 60 days
of jail time maintain absolute sobriety
during his incarceration and pay fines
totaling over
$1,000 according to court documents he
has been arrested multiple times for
misdemeanors ranging from domestic
disturbance to operating a vehicle while
intoxicated you might recognize John
from our last video he is a retired
police officer after being a police
officer for multiple decades thank you
for joining us John thank you for having
me appreciate it so in regards to this
video uh we have a couple questions that
we'd like you like to get your input
over uh the first one is one thing the
public might not realize is just how
rare these events are
and in your extensive 25y year history
as a police officer how many times did
you deploy a taser or pepper spray and
what was it like did you ever get pepper
sprayed or tasered yourself out in the
field well fortunately I've never had to
deploy my Taser I used to have to Red
Dot a lot of a lot of aggressive you
know um arrest that I had to take into
custody but as soon as they see the Red
Dot they comply thank goodness um as far
as um the pepper spray I pepper sprayed
probably a few people um it is effective
you know um not a good experience but um
it is effective when um you know you
have to use it I had a few incidences
where people wanted to you know fight me
you know and I had to implement pepper
spray um as far as me being pepper
sprayed I was pepper sprayed um
unfortunately by another officer um I
responded to a fight on the highway and
he tried to you know fight us and my
partner at the time he took out his
pepper spray and used it but it was
windy that day so oh no
went all in the and the funny the funny
thing you know because cops have a sense
of humor and um I uh all I had on me was
iced tea at the time so I literally had
to take IC and just pour all over my
eyes because I was not near water it did
you know help but um I did get to a
hospital and get flush and everything
but yeah it's it does it it does the job
it does job it's effective for sure it's
effective absolutely yeah wow um okay so
the the next question I have is uh a
small dog there's all bar and there's no
bite in this situation uh it really
doesn't appear to be a fan of these
officers though can you share a bit
about your experiences either being
surprised by a dog or having to deal
with man's best friend I've never had to
deal with a hostile dog fortunately um
usually I have been surprised a few
times but they just want to sniff you
lick you you they can pets usually can
tell if you're danger or not or there's
something about you but I've never had
the situation where I was about to be
bit I know officers that have but me
fortunately I've never had to deal with
that so that's been good they just sniff
me and you know lick me or something but
you know it's been a good good situation
thank God sounds like a kind of good day
though that I got dog today
absolutely that's awesome well that's
all the questions we have for you today
John thank you for giving your input and
again thank you for your service thank
you I appreciate harison