How you doing, sir? Are you a law enforcement officer? >> Yes, I am. >> Suffolk County Deputy Sheriff? Can I get your name and badge number, please? >> Anthony Eilers, 579. >> Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Um yeah, I'm just a First Amendment, you know, >> Yeah, yeah, sure. >> I'm First Amendment advocate. I'm a journalist. I'm not in This is There's no courtrooms around here where I'm at. These are publicly accessible areas. I'm just working on a story, gathering content for a story. Peacefully, I'm not bothering anybody, and they're they're making a big deal about it. >> What are you What are you trying to accomplish? >> I'm I'm just I'm trying to accomplish exercising my rights without having been told to stop. That's what That's what really what I'm trying to accomplish. >> Mind talking to me and giving me your ID real quick? >> I mean >> talk with you. You can follow me all you want. >> mean, we could Yeah, we could talk, but I don't want to talk out there unless you're going to No, I'm just recording all the signage here and all the public documents that are inside. >> Okay. >> Yeah, so I'm an independent journalist, like I told you. I'm just working on a story on the I'm not in anywhere near It's It's a story on the the traffic violations bureau, sir. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'm not anywhere near any courtrooms. Nowhere near courtroom. >> All right. >> No Not even in them. >> This is I showed you I showed you the signs of >> Yeah, but these aren't the law. These aren't the law, though. These aren't the law, sir. These are signs. These are policies. >> These are policies of what the building is asking you to do. >> Yeah, they're policies. I have a right This is a public building. I have the right to be in this public building, and just because I'm recording shouldn't restrict my access to the public building. I'm not bothering anybody. I'm not interrupting any courtrooms. I'm not doing anything of that nature. I'm not causing a disturbance. If anything, that security guard over there, while I was filming these signs over here, he tried to run up on me and grab me from behind, and I had to like put my hand out and stop him. >> Who is this? >> The guy right behind you, right by the computer screen over there. It was uncalled for. I'm I'm a reasonable guy. I'm not trying to break the law. I'm not breaking the law. >> I'm just saying >> I'm not breaking the law. >> They have the sign up here for a reason. >> I understand it's a policy, but they also, sir, >> Yeah. >> Deputy, they also had signs once upon a time that said people of a certain skin color couldn't come into an establishment, correct? Did the Were Were those signs acceptable? Just cuz it's on a sign >> Can we talk over here, sir? >> I I'd rather I'd get out of the way. We can come over here. >> Come over here. Let's talk over here. I I We can come over here. >> So, what are you trying to do? You said you're just recording in >> I'm just recording in publicly accessible areas. That's all I'm doing. And if you if you if you are going to violate my rights in any way, you let me know that and I'll take it up with the proper I'll take it up with the proper venue. If you're going to arrest me for any reason I I would hope not. I'm not breaking the law. >> I said I'm just trying to talk to you about a matter to talk to you over there. >> All right, but I I don't want to go over there. So, I want to stay where I'm at. I would This is a public building. I'd rather stay where I'm at, sir. Excuse me. I'm not running away from you. I'm independent. I work for myself, sir. That's correct. Yeah. You can I've had a bunch of, you know, I I've I've gone through this before with, you know, Suffolk County Police Department. You can call and check with them. Even your own agency, sir. I'm sure they know who I am. They know I'm an independent journalist. They know I'm not here with any nefarious I'm not here with any nefarious purposes or anything. I'm just here to document all the signs in the publicly accessible areas. I don't want to go near courtrooms I understand the signs. But they're not law. That's my whole purpose. I don't have any weapons. I obviously cleared through the metal detector, right? So, I'm not a threat to anybody. I don't understand what's the big deal about a camera. I get what you're saying, the signs. But there could be Like I told you, there could be any You could put up a sign anywhere. I could put up a sign and what does that mean? What what law? You are law enforcement. I told you I'm gathering I told you I'm working on a story on this building. That's what I'm trying to accomplish. Yeah. I'm gathering public information on the Traffic Violations Bureau. Yeah. Are we even You took an oath to the United States Constitution to uphold the Constitution? Did you, sir? I know you did. So, okay. So, the First Amendment to the United States is we have freedom of press. So, if anywhere that a regular citizen can go, I can go. I'm just I'm not in a courtroom. Judges have control over the courtroom and some This is where you pay your tickets. This is This is nowhere near a courtroom. Yeah, this is not a court This is not a courthouse building. This is the Dennison building. This is controlled by the county. I don't need their permission though. That my my thing is is that I don't need their I get I I see what you're saying, but I don't need their permission. That's the whole point really, to be honest. I'm not in any room. I'm not breaking any laws. I I don't want to cause any disturbance. I'm not going to. I don't know what else there is to really talk about. That's That's not my goal here. Do you have a supervisor I can speak to maybe or >> I don't have a supervisor here. No, I don't. >> Can you call a supervisor? Are you stationed here in this building? >> For the day I am. That's all it is. >> Oh, okay. Can you call a supervisor? >> They run it. >> They run what? >> They run this building. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean I'm not PD. I'm not local police department. >> All right, so I mean why then what what are we talking for? I just You what I I want to talk to somebody >> over here. You're not allowed to record in here. >> I mean, I'm not breaking the law. You said it yourself. >> I'm not saying you're breaking the >> So, I guess I'm just going to go about my business then. I'm not breaking the law. You guys are always recording us. Right? You guys are always recording the people. Look at the camera right above you, man. Captain, excuse me. There's a There's a camera everywhere, right? It's a big deal. You go into Walmart, there's a camera. There's always a camera going to be everywhere you go. >> Thank you. >> I see your signs. I see them. But there also was signs at one once upon a time that said that, you know, people of a certain skin color Well, and and the president is is that I'm openly defying that sign because I believe it to be unconstitutional. >> You have the right to believe whatever you like. >> Okay. Let's hope he's talking to somebody who respects their oath that they took to uphold the United States Constitution. Unconstitutional signs here. Hey, Deputy, did we get any clarification, sir? >> Uh yeah, you can go ahead. Just obviously not in the courtroom, so >> Okay. >> That's you. You do you. As long as you're not causing a disturbance, that's fine with me. >> Okay, perfect. I just wanted to make sure that we >> No, you're not bothering anybody. >> We had some clarification. Exactly. Thank you. >> name. It's Shield. No problem. >> Yeah, and I appreciate that. I appreciate that. My name is Shawn, by the way. Yeah. >> be obviously, so >> Okay. >> You know, as long as you're not causing a disturbance, Shield, in the courtrooms, something like that, >> Yeah. >> I'm fine. >> Okay. >> Okay? >> Thank you. I I appreciate it. Thank you so much. And if you could just let them know cuz they were they were trying to escalate the situation to public safety here. >> Just talk to me. >> No, I I I I don't want to talk to him. That's what I'm saying. You You can let them know so we can de-escalate a little bit. Thank you. >> once a week, but I'm not so I'm not really here full-time. >> Okay. I got you. >> I got you. Take care. >> Okay, Deputy. Thank you, Deputy. I appreciate it. Thank you. Stay safe, okay? You have a good one. Thank you. Quick question for you. Um do you know where I can where do I go to file a complaint against one of your officers? And how would I get his name? Like is there a complaint form? >> There's no complaint form, but what you can do is you can definitely put it in writing. Uh write your letter. Um and you can send it to the agency, and you can address it to the executive director of TPVA. >> TPVA? >> Yeah, Traffic Parking Violations Agency. >> Okay, so you guys are public safety for it, specifically the TPVA. >> Correct. >> Okay. So I would I would go through them. Okay. >> Sure. If you want to get you can send a letter in. >> Okay, thank you. And um yeah, I'll just I'll get his name. Do Do you happen to know his name? >> Who is it? >> The the older gentleman that was stationed over here. I mean, if if you don't know it. >> Okay. One supervisor. >> Oh, I have the badge number on I have the badge number. I'll figure it out. >> Print out a picture. We'll I'm sure you'll find out. >> Yeah, sure. Sure. I I I got the badge number. I'll do a FOIA request for the for the information. Thank you. Appreciate it, Captain.