What's your name and badge number? Show me your ID, please. What's your name and badge number, sir? Right here. Well, you're covering as you're showing it to me. It's right here. How do you pronounce it? Papalaski. Your ID, sir. And what's your uh badge number? 4839. You have your ID, sir? 4839. I'm not I'm giving you ID, sir. I'm not committing I'm not committing any crime, sir. He said he's asking for information. I'm You want me to explain to you what I'm doing here? No, I don't want you. If you don't want to tell me who you are, I don't want you to be here. Okay. So, we have nothing to talk about. Great. Is he allowed here? I have to leave. Pilaski, you have to leave. Sir, I'm going to ask you one time and one time only. Is this a public lobby? 116. Yeah, call supervisor. Call supervisor. That's better. You have to leave. Can I call supervisor, sir? No, we can't call supervisor. Come outside. We'll talk. You show me your ID. We'll figure out what's going on. I'm not showing you any ID. And I want a supervisor. Okay. Step outside. For what? You can't trespass here. These people run this building. This is a public place. I have business. They're running the building. I have business in a public place. Listen, before you make a mistake, just call supervisor. All right. No, call supervisor. Go outside. Talk to me. I'm not going outside. I want to wait for a supervisor in a public lobby. I'm not in a restricted area. Call for a supervisor. I'm not You can call for a supervisor. You got the video in your hand right there. I'm asking you to call for a supervisor. Show me your ID and I'm asking you I'm asking you politely to call for a supervisor. Please, sir. I'm asking for your ID and I'm I'm refusing to do that. Okay. Then I'm not going to You're not going to call a supervisor then? I'm going to ask you to step outside so I can figure out from these people what's going on. They just I could show you video if you want. I'm going to ask them because video don't lie though. One of these people are going to provide me with ID. Video don't lie. Okay, then I'll look at your video. Why don't you show me your ID? Okay. Well, my whole point is that I'm not going outside and I'm not showing you my ID. No, I want a supervisor. How many times do I have to ask for one? I want a supervisor. Scares my staff when you listen being I understand. Listen, I understand his I understand his policy. Policy does not trump law, sir. And I'm letting you know that I'm here legally. I'm not committing any crimes. I have no ill intent and I'm working on a story. It's a first amendment protected activity. So that's why I'm asking you to please call your supervisor so that you're working on a story and you want I want you to deescalate. You're talking over me. Okay. Go ahead. If you're working on a story, you want help from this office. You need to follow what they request of you. I don't understand. I'm working on a story in a public place. I I I asked them questions and I'll have more questions for them once I'm done going over all their brochures that they have laid out everywhere. I'm working on a story in a public lobby, sir. This is a public lobby. I'm not in a restricted area. I'm not breaking any laws. So, if you would like, you can call a supervisor like I've asked you 20 times now. Or show me your ID. I'm not showing you I'm not showing you my ID. That's not going to happen here. Why not? Because I don't want to. Why? This is not Germany, sir. You can't just Hey, where's your papers? Like, I'm not committing a crime. I need to know who I'm speaking to. You listen, you're speaking. If you're you have legitimate business here, I need to know who you are. But who are you to determine if I have legitimate or non-legitimate business here? Blake can't determine that. I'm telling you. They're having trouble dealing with you. That's not my problem. I'm not, sir. I have not caused the scene. I have it all recorded. I'm not interfering with business that they have with their clients. They came out and confronted me. I'm sitting here peacefully recording working on my story. I have no other ill intent. They got scared because they saw camera. I'm sorry camera scared them. But what criminal have you ever known? What is your intent? My intent is to work on my story without being told I can't. With what resources from this office? with the resources that's available to me in a public place. What are you asking of them? I've asked them a whole bunch of questions. Start with one. What are you asking of them? What exactly is it that they do here? Okay. Can you explain that to me? Okay. What is the question that you haven't gotten an answer? So, basically, I want to look at all the information that they provided me with that I've gathered publicly. I'm going to sit in the public lobby. I'm going to continue to film and I'm when I have more questions, I will let them know. That's it. It's simple. I'm not here to cause a disturbance. This is them calling you is causing the disturbance. Who's here to be clear? I mean, and I' I've said this to you already. The problem is is that there's business ongoing in here. We have folks that we're serving. Their personal information is here. There are people that are doing But this is why I want a supervisor here. So, listen. You're you're filming in an environmental information. If you have a problem with questions, I gave you answers to every question that you offer. Can you answer continuing to film? Yes. Why can't I film? There are people here. But why can't I film, Blake? I'm telling you why. There are people here that are talking about their personal employment situations. You should not be confidential it. Yes. So if you want to listen, you have to create ex you have to create an expectation of privacy. So like you see how you have the door at your on your office over there. You can take a client in there and close the door and I'm not going to do it. Is about whether or not there's an expectation of privacy. I've established for you an expectation that you should there's not. And if his supervisor was here, his supervisor would tell would tell you that there's no expectation of privacy here. There is none. Separate areas for counseling in this space. Okay. There's no expectation of privacy. Offer you an answer to every question. Okay. I might have more and I'm happy to answer that. Great. So you can stand right there the whole the whole day if you want. Normally what anyone would do here is fill out an application besides the most basic. But you that's because people are coming here for another purpose than I'm tour this building for a story that you're writing media. I am in the public if they want to allow me access back there. That's fine. Question. Yes. I just told you. You didn't just you just walked over. Ask me the question. So you're asking for a visit to tour for a story you're you're doing? No, that's not what I'm asking. Okay. What' you write here? the reason for my visit. I'm not asking anybody. What is it purpose for your visit? Touring. Working on my story. I don't think they do that. Well, I'm working on a story. That's it. That's all I got to say. I really don't want to talk to you anymore cuz you don't want to get the supervisor out here. So, I'm going to invoke fifth amendment and I don't want to deal with you. Thanks. Stay away from the people that are doing again. Sir, I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not doing I'm not breaking the law, sir. Establish an expectation of Okay. I mean, it's not the law. That's I I follow the law, sir. I don't follow your idea of what the law your interpretation of the law. I follow the law and how the law is written and that is your job. You swore no to the Constitution of the United States, right? Your job is to uphold the law as written, not what you think. Not when a buddy calls you or when fellow So tell me who you are so we can get your business. I'm telling you, I'm a good I'm a law-abiding citizen who's not doing anything wrong. That's who I am. Okay? You have a name your identity from us. I'm not hiding anything. I'm just not telling you. That's different than hiding because you're writing a story because I have because I have a right to do that. What type of story is that? All right. I'm going to talk to the sergeant now. I'm going to talk to the sergeant now. How you doing, sir? Hey, Serge. Can I talk to you for a sec? Yeah. What's your name? I'm Officer Sergeant McNel. I'm good. I'm not going to give my name, sir. I just want You realize I know you're at other precin places. Yeah. If you're if you're making a documentary, whatever it is, you have access to public information. All right. But that's about it. Okay. If you have to go out and do films, we just ask you to be as professional as you can. Of course, sir. And I always am. All right. Okay. Can can can you just can you can you notify him that I have a legal right to be here working on my story so he can because he's technically he's the one escalating the situation. So I want you to deescalate it if you can. Gentleman's apparently making a documentary. He has access to public information. He's been over a different precinct uh in this area. He's able to if you don't want to interview him, you don't have to interview him at this point. He can just stay in this public area right here. But eventually you're going to have to leave eventually. Right. Yeah. But I mean, you can put in your story that um that he attempted to interview. They didn't want to have an interview. All right. Yeah. I I appreciate you explaining it to them. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. So, I think I'll do the problem. The folks are coming in here. They're coming in here to You don't want to upset other people. No, no, no. That is not my intent. I told I told them the ladies were scared when they saw the camera. I don't know why, but I told them, listen, I have no ill intent here. I'm working on a story. I never heard of a criminal that records a crime. You know what I mean? His own crime. Doesn't make sense. Understand that some people can get a little upset if they're getting upset. So, they've been very No, I understand completely. They don't want to you could just No, that's fine. I'm not trying to interview anybody. I'm just doing that. They don't want to, you know, pursue any any any further uh interview. Great. Right. Do what you could. Okay. All right. The problem is that they're focusing in here seeking services from the department. They're on unemployment. They're trying to get off employment. They're doing jobseker services. Why don't you filming people that are here in the lobbying their business? So, it's I'm not impeding anybody's. Nope. That's No, it's people are coming in here and they're concerned. So, that's Nobody was concerned. Well, it's people are That's fiction. Like I said, try to be as professional as I will be. They don't want to hear you and if they're concerned, I will I will leave here on my own time. Yes. Okay. I will leave here on my own time. All right. Thank you. The closing time. For the lobby's closing for what reason? Do you have authorization to close the public lobby? Yes, I do. So, the for what purpose are you closing the lobby for, sir? A public lobby cuz I would like And what's what's your last name? First and last name. My name is Mark. Mark. I have a lot of pods. I have people pod people contact. What's your last name? What's your last name, Mark? I want to file a complaint against Mark. Can you give me your last name? In charge. Yeah. So, I'm gonna I want to want his last name, though. All right. So, can you give me your last name so I can file a complaint? You're a public employee, sir. Would you fill out an application? Are you a public employee? I'm not a public employee. Do you guys just not get it through your brains? Like, you are you work for the public. You have You fill out an application. I want to get a complaint form. Now, my now my focus has changed. Now, officer, I would like a compl for them to hand me a complaint form. I don't know how they do it. So I I want have to use your resources to I want to speak to a supervisor. Hey Mark, can I speak to a supervisor? Can I speak to a supervisor? Mark to Blake and myself. No, I'd like to I would like to speak to one above you and Blake. Is this the Is this the type of service you provide to the public, sir? I'm asking you to speak to your supervisor. Is that okay with you, Mark? Is that okay with you, Mark? Listen, people see documentaries all the time. They watch all these videos. And you're going to be the guy that's going to do this. For what purpose? Just do your job. What's your last name? And let me speak to your supervisor.