What's not against the law? You're Rebecca? No. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I just saw that it was registered to Rebecca. I know the whole situation that happened. This is a man waiting for his girlfriend outside a casino on tribal land. The situation began when a female officer found him slumped over in a running vehicle and requested ID for a welfare check. Believing he was in a non-stop and ID state, he steadfastly refused to cooperate. Do you think your right to silence is untouchable everywhere in America? Look at this case. This man cited the law correctly. This isn't a stop and ID state. But he forgot one crucial detail. He was on tribal land. So, this dude is not So, when I pulled up over here, he was slumped over the wheel. Car was running. Okay? He's not He's refusing to give me his ID. She got herself involved and they started calling me a psychopath and was recording me and he's saying that he's just refusing to give me his ID and and I let him know he's detained. He's not free to go and so I'm kind of like Okay. So, I called up one of my partners and I was like, well, what do I do? Like cuz I I'm by myself. I don't want to get into a situation where I'm like thrown into the cuffs and then I'm like so, I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but I'm not I don't believe I'm violating any of these rights or anything. Okay. Yeah, did you contact like your supervisor? Cuz I don't know what all that you're able to do. What's up, man? What's not against the law? You're Rebecca? No. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I just saw that it was registered to Rebecca. I know the whole situation that happened with Rebecca. >> sitting here. I was on my phone. She comes up, knocks on the window. I said asked her if I can help her. She said, "Oh, are you okay?" I said, "Yes." She then she demands my ID. It's not a stop and ID state. Okay. I don't have to give up my ID if there's no crime being committed. She's not investigating a crime. Okay. And I'm obviously okay. I was interacting with her. Okay. And then she just won't leave. Now, she won't let me leave. She won't let me get out so she can get in and we can go. Okay. Well, I'm I'm going to have a chat with her, figure out Yeah, it's her car that's in the way. It's in the way. Okay. Do you mind if I get your name? Why? I That was a simple I don't mind. I don't mind. I just This is just interrupting my day. Dude, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's like 5:00 a.m. >> There's no There's no reason for it. >> Okay. I I'm just asking. Do you mind if I get your name? She actually She remembers. She actually has my name because we've interacted before on the other side by the hotel. Okay. In this same vehicle. But I don't see any point in it. I I I didn't ask her to come over and and talk to her. >> got you. In all fairness about like names and stuff, we do interact with a lot of people, so sometimes it's hard to remember names, right? >> Okay. So, I just asked if you would mind if I got your name. If not, I do mind. I just let's just go over Okay. I mean, I have no context as to this. So, I'm going to go talk to her. Yes, I'm just the citizen that is being impeded in his day. Okay. I'm going to go talk to her, figure out what's going on from her perspective, okay? I would like to know if I'm still detained. I'll talk to her about that, right? Because this is So, this is where it gets into a weird area, right? Where it's tribal. Yeah. >> So, they're doing tribal stuff here. It's tribal. This is tribal land. Right. This is all I'm still a citizen of the state. I'm not a I'm a member of the tribe. They're not enforcing a tribe code on you, but because they control this land, we don't have an MOU as the county, right? So, we can't overstep what they're doing. Right? >> And all I was doing was sitting here waiting for Okay. I would like for somebody not to let her blow things out of proportion. Yeah, I'm going to go talk to her, figure out what's going on from her perspective, right? Because I just got here with no context, right? I was at the casino. I was slumped over the wheel. And I tried ID'ing him and basically he's not wanting to give me his ID. He made a big old deal about it. So, I'm out on this call right now. Huh? No. What? Well, if when he when he wasn't when he wasn't going to give me his ID, I told him to leave and he said, "I'm not going anywhere." And so then he stayed and was like, "I'm not leaving my girlfriend here." And so then I was like, "Well, you're going to give me your ID." And then he wouldn't give it to me. So, I gave him an opportunity to leave. So, George is here right now. They're They're out here right now. What up? He's still arguing about ID. No, I asked if he would mind giving me his name. So, No, but why? I gave him an opportunity to leave. I said, "Since you're not going to give me your Cuz you slumped over the wheel, like I already told you." And then I gave him multiple chances to give me his ID. This is obstruction at this point. He's slumped over. The car is running. But he was slumped slumped over like literally over the wheel. Did you knock on the window to wake him up? Yeah, I had knocked twice. Well, then he So, then I told him, "Well, if you're not going to give me your ID, then then leave. You need to leave then." And he said, "No, I'm not going anywhere." Yeah. He's He said his girlfriend or whoever was inside the casino. And Yeah, this is one of the weird areas where like I can't have a second. That's why. No, yeah, yeah. Not at your head. Like I'll hang out. Yeah. I just I don't know actually what I don't really have any grounds. I can make conversation with him cuz he No, yeah, yeah. That's where I get where I'm like That's where I'm like I know that I'm not in the wrong. So, she starts coming at me and recording me and calling me a psychopath and telling me I wish I had a dick and all this other [ __ ] and blah, blah, blah and which doesn't matter. It's weird though. It's freedom of speech, but Yeah. this is where I'm used to being, you know, not tribal land. Well, what did he just tell you? Sergeant Lee. What did he say? He was just like yeah, if you if you gave him the opportunity to leave and he did it, like Yeah. I mean, you have to what we do. You know who's probably going to be more versed in this? 1802. He's on his way. Yeah. Well, he was pulling out from his house over there. Yeah. The initial officer had a legitimate reason for a welfare check because the subject was slumped over in a running car, a potential sign of impairment or a medical emergency. The subject's mistake was choosing a legal battle over ID instead of simply cooperating to prove he was fine. No. Can I say Can I say my side or are you just going to pick one side? Okay, go ahead. Okay, so I was in the casino. He was in the car. Right? And then he slides What up? I was in the casino. I stayed in my lane. Yeah, I'm okay. All right. It's okay. No crime committed. My car is not a crime. I talked to him on the phone on the way up. She demanded my ID. Okay. Yeah, they just requested a second and I was like, I think I'm the closest. I'll start driving. I I was coming off the highway for you. I just said, "Okay, Yeah. Yeah, I talked to her on the phone on my way up here and what's going on. Well, he's slumped over the wheel. He wouldn't get out. He wouldn't get out. He wouldn't get out. Started recording me and everything and like I hope that's not illegal. So, No, that's fine. Yeah, so that's why I showed up. Yeah, so I'll hang out. I appreciate it. Case details. Context. Welfare check on a subject slumped over in a running vehicle outside a casino. Refused to provide identification citing state stop and ID laws. Federal, state, constitutional rights versus tribal sovereignty and safety inspection codes. Resolution. Subject remained detained for investigation. County officers provided backup, but acknowledged limited jurisdiction without an MOU.