Yeah. No, I I was reading the sign you have there. It that's not a law. It's in effect here. So, what do you mean? It's in effect. It's posted. It's in effect. Oh, it's just a policy, though. It's it's it's not a law. Do it, bro. So, no. No. I'm I'm a journalist. I I can Yeah, for sure. Yeah. This is a public building, right? This is not a public building. This is a private building. There's a private Who owns it? Who owns it? A private owner. What? Who's the private owner? You can't record in here. Yeah. Who But who owns the building? business here. Is he waiting for something? You don't have to step outside, bro. Yeah. No, no, no. I'm just taking some pictures and video of the facility here. You can't. But I'm trying to understand. This is the New Jersey Department of Vehicle. Can we walk outside? How is it a private building? I don't understand that part because motor vehicle is not owned by the state anymore. It's private. Private? Then who owns it? Can we step outside? It doesn't sound It says by chief administrator. Chief administrator of who? administrator is whoever's in charge. That sounds like a government agency to me. Can we step outside? I mean, I don't have I'm not opposed to stepping outside. I'm just, you know, I want stepping outside because I want I want to finish what I was doing. You're doing something that's not allowed in here. Do But why would the first amendment freedom of press in circles? I'm asking a question. I do not want it done here. So, you can't do it. No, but I understand what you're saying. I'm still recording. I am still reporting. Of course I am, sir. It's It says clearly no photograph. No, I was just reading it. Yeah, I I I know what it says. Obviously, you don't understand the policy then. No, I understand the policy, but it's it's direct. But are you going to keep talking or you listen? I'm harassing you. I'm telling you. I didn't say you're harassing me here. We're going to have the officer come and you're going to be removed. I mean, if that's what the officer is going to remove me by force, then he's going to remove me by force. I mean, be removed either. Hey, how are you, sir? Easy way or the hard way. Hey, how you doing? I'm just taking some pictures and videos of the signs here and everything. Got a policy. You can't record. Um, and you are, sir? And who are you? Officer Monova. Are you law enforcement, sir? Yes. And what what department you work for? What can we help you with? I just wanted to know what department you worked for, sir. I work for Springfield. Springfield Police Department. Yes, sir. What can we help you with? Oh, I'm just a journalist. I'm just taking some pictures and video of the signs in publicly accessible areas of this building. Sir, told you can't do it. Well, there's It's not against the law, sir. It's I have a first amendment. I have a first amendment right just to take some pictures and videos in public. I'm not getting any sensitive information cuz I just don't want my rights violated. So that's all. I'm not trying to be difficult with you. If the officer my rights, you're violating our rights. It clearly says do not do it. But there's no but there's no law, sir. You're law enforcement. You're not policy enforcement. Respectfully, sir. I I don't want to break the law. If you think that I'm breaking the law and you want to cite me a law that I'm breaking, I'll gladly comply. But I'm not breaking any laws. I'm actually doing the opposite. I'm engaging in a constitutionally protected activity. I get all that. Can we help you? I don't need any help. I was actually just going to film the signs over here and and film in the publicly accessible areas and then be on my way when I'm finished filming. I'm not going to film, you know, across the counter or any type of still. Yeah. Well, yeah, because I know what you're filming cuz you keep turning. Well, this is a public building, sir. You keep saying it's private. I understand that. I understand that. I read I don't want to go in circles with you, sir. We're trying to do this. Okay. But what I'm saying is that that sign violates my constitutional right to film. So that is this is private property. It's prohibited. But if it's private property, I just want to know who it is. What private agency or person issues license plates for New Jersey. We don't understand. We would like to help you with whatever your issue is, but so far you haven't laid anything out for us to help you with. But I I just I told you everything. Can I Can I get your name? Yeah. My name is Walter. My name is Sean. My name is Sean. Nice to meet you, Walter. I'd like to help you with something, but it's just I just I don't need any help. You're not trying to help me with anything. You're trying to get me to stop recording. That's what you're trying to do. So, don't be disingenuous by saying you're trying to help me. Would like to help you with whatever it is you need help with. But I don't need help with anything. Tell us you were just in here filming, which as you see is prohibited. It's prohibited by a sign. There there used to be signs that prohibited It's not a law, sir. And I have a constitutional right to to news gather in public buildings. Can you call supervisor, sir? speaking. No, not No, not I'm saying a a law enforcement supervisor if that's okay. Just so I know what's going on and we're up to date on everything. I'm not I'm not going to stop filming. It's a constitutional right. He's law enforcement. If he tells me I'm breaking the law, I will glad if he says he's going to arrest me and I'm breaking the law, I'll stop. You don't do it. But I don't want to break. But you're breaking the law by I'm not breaking the law, sir. That's I'm breaking the law by not listening to you. Does that make sense? call more people here to address this now. But sir, it doesn't have to be that way. I know cuz we could have just walked out. But why would you? Nice and easy. But still filming and the sign clearly says don't do it. I understand doing this. That sign's unconstitutional, sir. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Yeah. I mean, I'm telling you it is. Telling you it is. That's not a law. It doesn't It doesn't have a statute attached to it. In your world. Okay. Cuz I live in a I live in a different world than you. Yeah, you do. Obviously, cuz Okay. Look what's going on here. I mean, sir, I'm not going to be, you know, confrontational with you about and and say, "Yes, you are. You're saying I live in my own world. You're being confrontational, sir. Signs and I'm not sure. I'm just Yeah, I I'll explain it. So, I just want to I want to take some Excuse me, sir. I just want to take some pictures and videos of the publicly accessible areas of the building. I'm a journalist. I'm working on a story on the on the DMV here. That's it. Nothing nefarious going on. Nothing I'm not filming." Well, how long do you plan on? Oh, I I I couldn't tell you, but I'm not What I can tell you is that I don't plan on going. Tell me how long you're going to be here. That's against the law. Like, do you break code or something? How long you plan on being here? Yeah. No, that that's not what I said at all. I'm just saying that I couldn't tell you an exact time. I don't want to lie to you. But what I will say is that I don't plan on going into any restricted areas. I don't want to cause any disturbance. I don't want to hold up any business here. You know, all this is unnecessary by filming. People are going to ask us like why they're filming. Certain people do not want to be filming. Well, it it I I would understand that, but as law are Are you a law enforcement officer, sir? I'm a retired police officer. Yes. Okay. So, you're security guard. Well, as a security guard, you know, observe and report. I I would suggest that you would just tell them that it's not against the law. You're a law enforcement officer, sir. As well, right? Yeah. No, I got it. I got it. Yeah. But but that's that's not a law. It's not a law. So, listen. I understand. Yeah. Chief administrators don't make laws, sir.