over black, man. >> What? >> You know, if I touch her, I'm going to jail. >> Well, that kind of applies to everybody though, sir. >> Hey, you're going to be okay. All right. Why did you do that to me? >> David, can I >> Rocky? Hey, David. How are you, sir? >> Man, I'm fine. >> What's going on? >> This woman was throwing trash in my yard. >> No, she wasn't. >> Yeah, she was. >> Get out. Really? >> Yeah. >> Is it still there? >> Man, it might be out there. I It's still right there. >> Okay. Which which house is yours, sir? >> Right here. >> All right. The uh the white house. >> The white house. Yeah. With the pillars. Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Well, uh let's >> dog bit me. >> Let me see. Are you hurt? >> I don't know. I ain't looking. It bit me right here. >> He refused to get out of my house. standing right there. >> He refused to get out here. All right, guys. Let's do this. Let's do this. >> His dog. This is >> We was in my yard. I came from the back. My dog was chilling. She was throwing trash in my yard >> and I was going to throw this away. >> Hey, is is that your dog? >> Okay, let's do this. And he went in there. >> Grab him. Let's You go back to your yard. >> I'm going to talk to you for >> Well, he's going to slip out of this. >> Yes, I can do that. >> Thank you. >> Come on, Rocky. >> I'll meet you over there. >> Hey, buddy. Stop. Come on. >> Okay, Kira. What? >> What's going on? >> I need to just breathe for a second. >> Okay, go ahead. >> He's like in my face. He would not get out of my driveway. My dog had every right to bite him because she was guarding me and he was on our property and I asked him to leave no less than 10 times. >> Okay. >> And he was in my face. >> Gotcha. like spit from his >> me calling me a nasty girl trying to play the race card. I don't care what color he is. >> Okay. Why? >> I have asked him so many times. This whole neighborhood is like they don't pick up after their kids. This is a a circle in our neighborhood that has been maintained by the culde-sac neighbors. >> Okay. >> My parents have lived here for 45 years. >> Gotcha. And we have never ever in the 45 years that my parents have owned this home and I've been a part of it, >> we have never had neighbors that leave trash their kids like play. My kid, my kid used to play with them until his nephew enticed her into their house and they weren't home and he assaulted her in their bathroom and I should have freaking called you guys back then. >> Sorry to hear that. >> What? >> But they convinced me that it would never happen again. So, I didn't press charges and now I want to. >> How long ago was that? >> It was like a I think it was last summer. >> Okay. I would I'd contact non-emergency and ask >> and she won't even go in our driveway like she used to play. This is like >> Okay. Well, that that is a separate issue from this one and I want to >> It's a separate issue. >> I want to deal with this one right now. >> Sorry. >> Okay. No, it's fine. You don't have to apologize. >> All right. So >> he like calls me a racist because I want to keep this circle clean. Yes, I did call his nephew a gangster because he is one. >> Okay. So he says you threw trash. I'm hearing from you though that's trash that his kids are leaving laying around. >> His kids are leaving trash in that in the circle and I've asked him so many times. Please just My mom has asked them and she got she went out of it because they called her a racist for telling them to just clean up after themselves. >> Okay. >> There's the circle has never had trash in it ever. And now it has trash in it all the time. Rappers. There's Otter Pop rappers. And I put them on their yard so they can take care of their trash. I don't enter their property. >> Okay. So, Gotcha. Did Did he get bit by a dog? >> Did he? >> Yeah, >> he didn't get bit. He kept going in my face and I was standing here with my dog on a leash and he would not leave. >> Okay. All right. >> So, I don't know if she bit him or not, but I hope she did because I have every right to defend my property. Got >> I got that. So, here's the deal. >> Right. I understand your frustration. I don't >> And his dog was trespassing. He's trespassing. So, if I want to file a civil trespass suit, I will. >> I think you guys should do that. Uh, but more well, >> I mean, his dog would and I don't have a problem with his dog. His dog is very sweet. >> Better than that. Uh, don't do the trespass. Go get a protection order, >> right? Stating he can't come so many feet within your property. You also state that he, you know, he is your neighbor and he lives about 100 feet away or more. So, it should be like a 10ft barrier minimum from your property line. No contact, no harassment. Check all the boxes. Okay. You can do that at the the courthouse in Tacoma on Tacoma Avenue. >> Yeah, I know. I'm a lawyer, actually. >> You are? Perfect. Okay. So, go do that today or tomorrow. I'm honestly going to advise him to do the same thing. So, that way you both are held liable to not, you know, break that order in both directions. And here's the deal, like I agree with you. I'd be super frustrated as well, but like throwing trash in his yard when he behaves like this is not going to fix that that issue. Do you guys have an HOA? >> We do. >> Okay. I would go through the HOA for stuff like this. >> This is And this is >> This is how they act, too. I mean, when we're not even involved, they have fights like that. >> Okay. >> All right. Can I get you to head inside, please? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Officer, you talk to me like that. >> I'm coming, David. >> And you know, her daughter was being sweaty and she likes >> Okay, guys. Hey, I'm not too concerned what happened with the kids earlier. uh last year she tried telling me about it. I I I told her if she wants to deal with that that needs to be on a separate separate issue. Okay. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. All right. Here. So, um >> here's here's kind of my understanding and here's what I told her. Okay. >> Um she's upset. She thinks that your kids are leaving trash in in the center. >> My kids are >> No, don't even let them talk. >> Right. And so, here's what I told her. I go, "Regardless of whether you feel like they're throwing tra that they're leaving trash in the common area or not," I was like, "It's not acceptable for her to take that trash, even if she think it came from your kids, and throw it in your guys' yard, right?" I was like, "Don't do that again." >> Un unacceptable. Okay, here's what I advise her, and I also I'm going to advise you guys. I think you should both do it, right? Is go get a no contact anti-harassment order against her. She's going to do it against you, right? you both will be beholdened to it, which basically states at that point like you guys cannot make contact with each other. I told her if she has an issue with this common area and trash being in like with the kids or whatever, it's not her responsibility to deal with it you directly, she needs to go through the HOA and vice versa. If you guys have issues with her mother, >> okay, >> for whatever reason, like animal issues, trash issues, whatever it might be, like go through the HOA. But I think you guys should both get no contact orders between each other, right? And and and leave it at that, right? And if something arises in the future and those orders in place, we have a little bit more legal authority to handle it on both sides, right? So if she comes over and throws trash in your yard again, right? Like she could be arrested for violating that order. Does that make sense? >> That we just he actually just caught her. She's throwing dog poop and everything over there. We don't even bring a dog here no more. >> Yeah. He was just fre I mean, he was back here golfers going. Nobody. I was just picking up trash in my backyard for my kids. Like I tell them, if you look, she threw those two cans and that can is old. It's old. It's not even new. So, I've been in here. She's hunting around, man. I mean, I understand. >> Court, that's that one's not even ours, but they pushed it way over here. >> Okay. >> And it's really the issue with the kids. And ever since then, she has like a vendetta against us, >> right? And I told her she needs to stay away from you guys property and not throw stuff in it anymore. >> Okay. But when when it comes to this common area guys, I I encourage you to go through the HOA >> for for having some better guidelines and uh if you are interested in doing a protection order slashno contact, no harassment, right? You can go down to the the Tacoma courthouse uh Tacoma Avenue. Uh they're open from 08 to uh 1600. Okay. Like Monday through Thursday, I want to say >> what do you do about the dog bit? >> A dog bite me. The dog bit me. >> So can I see it? Did you have any >> I didn't I don't know. It bit me. >> I guess not. No, he bit me, too. He got me right here. I mean, I guess marks >> my understanding is, you know, she felt kind of threatened by behavior on on her property. Now, what I am going to do, right, because there is a dog in accident is I'm going to go ahead and notify our animal control, right? Then can then if they decide to, I'll give them the circumstances, they can reach out to her, reach out to you guys, uh, if if this becomes an issue, right? So, it's going to get noted. >> Well, what do I do? Because the only reason I traveled over there was because my dog was going because she was moving. It was moving with her dog and the dog was all the way in her garage and I was just standing and this is the driveway where it first curled. I was standing two feet there and I wasn't moving. I was holding my stuff like you seen me and I was talking to her and the dog it bit at me. You know what I'm saying? But my dog was in there. Yeah. It bit it bit me. You know it bit my yellow tear on your pants. Yeah. So, I'm going to forward this to animal control >> so they can talk about it. >> She claims you were on the property when >> I mean, if that's on her property, whatever. I mean, I'm not denying. I'm just telling you exactly where I was standing. Her and her daughter, got in my face, was cussing and pointing at me, and she was spitting on me from her talking. >> Yeah, she said the same thing. >> Well, yeah, sure. But, you know, she just I mean, I understand, officer, we got it. I'm clear on that, man. But this woman's nasty, disrespectful, telling me I shouldn't be here. Go back to East Tacoma. And we're not even from East Tacoma. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, she So, she's on that level. I'm just saying that's who we're dealing with. I don't have to deal with that. We really don't even interact with her. >> Yeah. We don't do nothing. We don't even sense that whole thing. I mean, whatever. I didn't talk to her. >> Okay. Like I said, guys, this sounds like a really negative uh relationship. >> It don't. And I think, you know, I I think it would be best if she didn't talk to you in the future uh and vice versa. And that's why I'm really encouraging you guys. >> She's a lawyer. She should know that. >> Yeah. She's a lawyer talking about, "Oh, I'm going to sue you." Oh, I put people in jail like you >> or whatever, represent people. What you talking about, woman? >> Okay. >> You know >> that what based off what you told me that wants me to encourage you guys even more to go get that no contact order, right? She should not talk to you like that. That's unacceptable, right? That like it's disrespectful. You don't deserve that. >> You guys know there been people that be all it's over, right? We're in a whole different situation. You know what I'm saying? And I'm listening to this woman. that you can do. But >> well, no, once you guys follow >> once once you guys get that order, right, if she if she harasses you again, once the order is in place, if she contacts you, talks to you, comes over to your property, right? That's an arrestable offense for violation of the court order. All right. >> Okay. And her being our kids, too. >> You can put your children on that order. Yes, you can put your minors that are are yours on that order or as well if you don't want her contacting your >> her and her daughter as well. Can I put them both on there? >> How old's the daughter? >> Uh 16. She got in my face and was calling me. >> Yeah, she was calling cussing at me calling me a turtle and all kind of stuff. >> Oh my god. >> They're both calling me names. Just cussing at me in my face. >> I I'll be totally honest with you guys. I've never served an order for a minor before. >> Yeah, you can you can get an order against a minor. You can, it'd have to be as two. You'd have to ask for two orders cuz >> you can list whoever you want as part of your household as protected under the order. So you your your your significant other, your your children can be listed on one order, but the person who is served the order. It's one individual. So you'd have to get two of the basic two of the same thing. But yeah. Okay. >> Minors can be served. >> List your whole household on both of those if you want. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So that's that's our recommendation. Um, I'm going to go have another talk with her about how we speak to people and the things we say that >> in generalization. Every black kid doesn't belong to me, >> right? >> Or us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They come back to the neighborhood. Yeah. They come down here and play. It's it's the safest place in the area, you know. So, they come down here. You can see the car. So, it makes sense, you know, but whatever. I mean, they don't cause no trouble. We make them pick up. I mean, there's two cans. >> I need I will give it to you in a minute, ma'am. >> Yeah. You know the kids look if you look she could pick two kid now if she was throw you know if it was a look >> I Yeah I told her it was unacceptable. >> Yeah. >> All right officer. I'm sorry. >> No you're good man. Thank you David. Appreciate it ma'am. >> Appreciate you guys. Like I said go follow through with that. Okay. >> No we will. >> All right. Thank you sir. They're standing here yelling at each other. It's It's the common area and trash that's that's the issue. >> Yep. >> Hey there. >> Okay. Hi, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Like I said, okay. I I basically just do the same thing that you're doing, right? Um just want to remind you like >> we can either deescalate things, you know, this your lawyer or you can escalate things. Throwing trash in people's yard, even if it's theirs, is not going to make matters better. >> That's fair. >> And then, you know, also too, making generalized statements about where they're from and if they belong in the neighborhood or not. Even when you're frustrated, okay, I'm not saying you did. >> I never said that. What I said was we have lived here for 45 years and we've never had anybody have trash in the circle that way. And I have asked you before, my mom has asked you before, other people have asked you before to please >> okay >> pick up after your kids or have your kids pick up after themselves. >> So here from this moving forward, uh I can almost guarantee they're probably going to go get uh no contact order. >> That's fine. >> I suggest you do the same. >> Oh, I'll be there before they are. And then >> I'll just file it through links. >> Um, >> if you have issues with the trash, go through the HOA because that's findable, I'm sure. >> Okay. Let them cuz the HOA has some legal authority, right? Let them do their job. >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? >> Okay. Sounds good. >> And then uh just steer clear. >> Rousa, you're all right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Then he calls my daughter a hoe when his >> Yep. They were >> attacks her. Are you kidding? >> They're they're probably going to do this as well. I would um list all of the individuals because they're going to list you in one order and your daughter probably on another. I would list the husband on one, the wife on one. >> I don't even know their full name. Do you know their full name? >> Um, no. I can get that for you. >> Okay. >> Y >> can you get it to me like today? >> I'll go pull it on the computer. Yes. >> Yeah. >> And then there's a there's a nephew. He doesn't live with them, but his name is Urick, and he's the one that attacked my daughter. And that's when she stopped hanging out with any of them. Like she's afraid to even go in the front if he's around. Okay. >> And I don't want him in this neighborhood. He doesn't belong here. >> Well, if you want to pursue that, I'd contact the PD. Um ask to speak to one of the detectives in SAU. >> SA. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I'm notically a criminal attorney. I'm a civil attorney. >> So, >> okay. Uh yeah, give me a few minutes. I'll go try to pull that run the last name. Okay. All right. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> I'm gonna go get her a last name for the order. >> Yes, sir. >> No problem. >> Trying to get me to jail over. >> What? >> You know, if I touch her, I'm going to jail. >> She going to talk to me like that. >> You going to try to send me to prison? >> You know it, too. Well, that kind of applies to everybody though, sir. >> Because obviously that's not going to work and didn't work. So, is that him? >> Yeah, he's over there. >> You know, if I touch that, I'm going to jail. >> You going to talk to me like that? >> Trying to send me to prison. >> He's uh he is off the wall. >> Yeah, he seems a little much right now. I'm not sure why you need to come back out and acting like that, but we gave everybody the same information of what they can do. And the problem here is that he doesn't they don't look after their kids and their kids are they got trash in our driveway everywhere around here. >> Yeah, but that's that's an HOA thing. You try to be ground and civil and clearly that's not going to work. So you go through the HOA >> and I understand that I shouldn't have done that. I'm just like I'm so >> they have no respect. >> Okay. Well, >> this is I mean >> it's understandable, but >> they have arguments like this like when I'm no one's involved. It's just house household arguments. >> We're all adults though and it takes two to argue, right? So we need to recognize that whatever's going on is not being productive, right? >> And kind of take a step back whether they do or not. >> I tried. I literally came into my driveway. He got in my face. >> He doesn't want to listen to anybody. >> Not enough for my kids. >> Yeah. Well, he's going to bring you information that somebody doing like that to her, man. How do you treat people like that? >> Well, David, I can tell you this, right? Like, we don't arbitrarily arrest people. I need evidence and I wouldn't do it just based off solely word, right? I touched her though, man. I'm going to prison. That's why she was speaking to me, bro. Cuz you've seen it for less. Come on. You seen people's done. I mean, come on, man. Took everything I had. >> One, >> I got kids. Like she said, oh, you shouldn't have had that many kids. You shouldn't have. What's she talking about? >> I think all children are a blessing. And the more you have, it's like quivers in your arrow, right? Or arrows in your quiver. >> That's what the Bible says. Hey, you're going to be okay. All right. >> Why you do that to me? >> Dave, can I get your last name and a cell phone number for me? Take me away with my kids. She didn't care. I could have enough for my kids and she wouldn't even care. Why? Why would a woman do that to somebody? Why would she do that? If I touched her, she would have gone with gone. >> Dave, let's head back inside. Okay. >> Oh, what is that? >> What is that? What kind of woman? She's nasty. >> Hey, you supposed to just get a blue car. >> She's nasty. >> She's nasty. >> I She called a cautious call. I can't believe it. I can't believe it, man. I I'll be honest with you guys. I don't know who I don't know who called. >> No, I was calling my son. >> Okay. Oh, >> can I get your guys' last name? >> Bernard. >> Can you spell it for me? >> B E R N A R D. >> B E R N A R D. And then David, what's your date of birth? >> She probably called. >> Did she? Okay. I think it was one of her. >> I think that that sounds more right. What's your guys' cell phone number? >> His is 2 by3. >> Okay. So, I'm going to do a little exchange. Do you have any do you have her info that you need for order? Okay, I'll provide that to you. >> So you can have her proper name and date of birth to provide the courts and I'm going to do the same for her vice versa. Okay, >> just let you know so there's no, you know, you don't think there's anything weird going on, right? Just transparency. Okay. And then I provided him a business card with the incident number. Okay. So you guys will be able to put that um provide that to the court as well when you go get your order. Okay. >> All right, guys. Appreciate you. Tough situation. I hope I hope you guys can get out of work out. >> Yeah, we don't I always thought that when a girl tries and they bite you, that's a incident. >> So like I told her, I was like, you can't take matters into your own hands. I go, if you have an issue when it comes to the common area, that's got to go through the HOA. You know what I mean? Like that's the adult thing to do and the mature thing to do. >> Throwing trash. >> Yeah. Throwing trash in people's yard is not a mature action. Um and that she needs to one, right, show respect to your property and two, I told her she needs to show respect to you guys as individuals and people and how she talks as well. Okay. >> So, like I said, go get the order and uh hopefully it'll get resolved. >> You got the name or did you put their name on the >> I have to go. I I got yours. I'm going to go back to my car. I'm going to grab hers. Provide it to you. >> Okay. >> Um, good to go. Hey, you point out to him that how he's behaving is not really putting a lot of weight into his victimization he claims by coming out and continuing with >> I did not say >> seeing and acting that way and he's still >> not to say that anything inappropriate or not you know maybe we shouldn't have said or whatever but to continue. >> Yes. >> Well, I got to go talk to him one more time. So, to give him give him everything. >> Okay. >> Jean Severs. >> There you go. That's his information. Okay. >> Okay. That's the incident number. >> All right. >> All right, you guys. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> All right, David. There you go. There's your information. >> Hey, for just, you know, when we take off here, um, for future reference, right? be yelling in the street like when we show up, right? I I was able to get both sides of the story. She meant what she did, right? But in the future, that may not, you know, go your way sometimes. So you, bro, that's what I'm talking about. I I adise you, man. >> You ain't got to adise me nothing now because look what she did to me. So I I I know what to do. I know what it is. >> The whole I mean, I know, bro. I understand, my guy. You ain't got to talk to me about it no more. She did what she did. She was She did what she was trying to do. That's why you're advising me because like you said, it may not shake out next time. I understand. That's my point. >> I like to think I'm reasonable and I try to get >> but but that's what I'm saying. That's my point. That's my whole point. Like you just said, it may not shake out. I understand that it couldn't have shook out this time. Something could have just went wrong based on everything that happened and it was all her fault. Thousand%. But thank you for your service and your help, my man. >> Good luck in the future, sir. Yep. That last part how it went about how I expected it, too. He clearly doesn't want to take any responsibility for