[Music] Back. Back. [Music] [Music] [Music] Stop. Stop. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. Now I'm going to call the police. >> Call the police. >> Call the police. >> Call the police. Stop. >> You going to bring the woman? >> No. I >> get away from my wife. >> The hell is your problem? >> Can you call the police? >> Go. What's your problem? >> What's your problem? What's your problem? >> Can you get away with my wife? >> I'll punch you. >> I'm going to punch you. >> Okay. >> The hell. [Music] We got contact with the other individuals. 104. >> Hi, Alexandra. >> Hi. >> How's it going? I just got to have a couple of words with you real quick. Okay. >> Sure. Go ahead. >> Okay. So here's the situation. Okay. So yesterday you had an incident in the air. Correct. >> Right. Okay. >> So due to that there are charges for battery that are placed against you. Okay. >> Against me. >> Against you. Okay. So what I'm going to have to do is I'm going to have to place you under arrest for battery. That being said, I will be more than happy to read your Miranda rights now before I do any other further questioning. Are you good with discussing this in front of your husband? >> Of course. >> Okay. Fine. Okay. >> You're trying to arrest me. >> So, the person that you made contact with yesterday, >> did you know what he did? >> Watch I watched the video cuz there's videos of it. Okay. >> Right. >> There's videos of it. And then we also have video footage of the female manager who had video recording inside the Panera. Okay. So, per their manager and per the video that we watched, okay, it shows you as the initial progressor. Okay. >> I didn't do anything. I I I just just he he he just just, you know, stepped in front of me and I said, "Well, I I I don't like what you're wearing." >> Okay. So, again, we have more than we'll be going back to the PD and I will have more than we'll have a further discussion on it. Okay. But if you don't want to speak further, I can read your Miranda rights now and then we can do it again at the PD. If you don't want to give any further statement on it now, that's fine. But >> can you can you say what what what actually happened or what the video shows? >> So the video shows an altercation between your wife and the male party who is in between his wife who was recording your wife due to her actions that happened at the Panera. No, her her wife was was recording. >> Recording you? Yes. Correct. >> So I I said stop recording because I'm talking to him. I didn't attack her. I didn't I didn't have anything. I didn't >> Did you attempt Did you attempt to grab the phone? >> Yes. >> Okay. So she's allowed to record you. It's a public area. It's as unfortunate as it is. You're allowed to record people in a public area. Okay. So you can't be grabbing people's phones. Okay. >> I didn't. >> I understand. Okay. So again, just for the sake of everything right now, I'm going to read you I'm going to read you your Miranda rightites. >> Okay. >> After that, we are going to be placing you under arrest for battery. Okay. >> What? What do you mean? >> We're going to be placing you under arrest for battery. >> What does this mean? >> Okay. So, in the state of Illinois, a battery is anything. >> No. No. What What mean arrest? I'm going to go to >> Okay. Transporting. We'll be transporting to the Jones Police Department and you will be booked and processed. Okay, that doesn't mean that you're going to jail, okay? But it does mean that we do have to take you back to the police department. We have to go through the procedures that we have, okay? And then a state's attorney will decide what happens next. Okay? >> So, just right off the bat, you have the right to remain silent. Any statement you make can be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney and to have an attorney present without you during any questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you, represent you before any questions. Uh, you have the right to terminate this interview at any time. Okay. Do you understand the rights that I've read to you? >> Yes. >> Okay. I just need an acknowledgement. I understand that you're saying that, but do you understand the rights? >> No. I I really I I will in layman's terms not just in regards just in regards to this. In layman's terms, okay, you have the right to an attorney. Okay. You do not have to give a statement. Okay. And you have a right to an attorney. And that attorney can be present with you when we go back to the police department. >> How do I get attorney? I you know I I never was in in the in the problem with with the law. >> So if you do not have an attorney, >> he you know this guy attacked me and and >> if you don't if you she doesn't if you do not have an attorney, we can find an attorney for you >> right now. >> If you know of an attorney if you would like. >> Well, does she need one? >> That is up to >> because you started talking and you still didn't tell me what exactly happened. What does the video show? >> The video shows that your wife attempts to take a phone from a female. The husband of that female gets in between them because she does he does not want her to be taking the phone at that point. >> He was between us. He he was all the time. >> And I understand that because he did not want you taking his wife's phone. Okay. >> There was a small tussle because in the video it shows you looking like you're about to throw coffee, >> but I didn't. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. The coffee was not spilled on that person, >> right? However, >> the coffee boot was spilled on me. >> However, however, after you had the tussle with the coffee, you made contact with the left side of his face. You swung at his You swung at his face. >> He He did because he threatened me. Did Did she show you that? He Yes, he he said, "I'm going to hit you. I'm going to hit you. I'm going to hit you." >> You said several times that you were going to hit him. >> No, I'm going to hit you. >> Okay. So again, that's essentially what happened. She made contact with the left side of his face. Okay. >> No, I I want to see that video because I I was so nervous that I I I just don't >> And that's fine. You have a right to see that video. I'm just telling you from what we've watched, that is what happened. Okay. And the video and the manager of the Panera who reviewed their video footage informed me that you were the one that started the altercation between the two. Okay? So again, my main question at this point because I read you your rights, I want to make sure that you understand. Okay, >> here. You know, just for sake of transparency, I have the video. This is on social media. This is on a app called Reddit. Okay, so I'm going to This is just from the beginning of what they did the phone. I I I want to take the phone. >> See? Oh my god. because he poured coffee on me. So, what did I do? >> Well, like I said, I'm just showing I'm just showing you you all this just in the sake of full transparency. This is publicly available on multiple social media. >> Great. Great. Let's see what they did. >> Let people see what they did. So, so he he started because he he put on me and and then I said, "Okay, it's not worth it. I'm not going to trouble with some terrorist. Why would you call that person a terrorist? >> Because he he threatened me. So So are she he pushed me again. But do you see that that he kept pushing me? >> I understand. But the problem is is this whole incident was provocated by them alleging that you and pardon my language, but this is what they claim you said that you walked up to them and said, "Fuck Palestine." Because they had the word Palestine on the back of their jack uh their shirt. That is what provocated this. That's what would make this you the primary aggressor on this. And then I say, well, why are you making this political statement killing the Jews? >> But the point the point being is is that's what started all >> they can say kill the Jews and and we cannot >> I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with that. >> We are not taking any political stance on anything that's happening right now. The only thing that we are here to discuss is the battery that occurred at Panera. >> So you you you you see that that he was he was pushing he was pushing me all the time. If if he would just just let me go, it it it would just be over. So again, I I >> freedom of speech, right? There is freedom of speech in this country. So So they can say, I can say, >> and again, I'm not taking anything away from your civil rights. I'm not saying anything against their civil rights. The only thing that we are here to discuss right now is the battery and disorderly conduct that occurred at the mar. Okay? The reason I read you Miranda rights is because if you do, >> are you going to arrest him? That that is my question because he he was he was actually charging at me. I I just said I I I can send what whatever I want. But but he was charging at me and he said, "Yeah, I'm I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna hit you." I I felt threatened. He he he terrorized me. >> So at what time did he say he was going to hit you? Because if it was during that video >> Oh, she I'm I'm sure she she she got rid of this. I I was I was wondering if that's why I So did that occur prior to you pointing at them and saying what you said? or did it happen after the fact in between? >> After after um you know at some point we were already you know like like in in this agreement so so I just you know he I don't know exact moment but but but I I I know we were like in um I think he I don't know if it was before or or after he poured the coffee on me but but but he he threatened me. I I I used to swear I mean okay it doesn't matter. >> So again I just want to clarify because I want to make sure that it's for our purposes and for the purposes further. >> Did you understand what I explained? >> I did. >> Okay. Can you explain it to her so that way she would understand it? >> Well don't say anything anymore. He read the rights that you have the right to the attorney and you don't have to say anything whether you be guilty or not guilty. You don't have to say anything. Okay. because they're going to use everything against you. >> Injustice. >> Well, it is injustice obviously, but that's how they do stuff. So, >> so again, I've read you your Miranda rightites. I will do so again once we get back to the police department. Okay. At this time though, okay, whatever belongings that you do not want coming with you, I suggest you leave with your husband. We will then have to place you under arrest and we will be taking you back to the police department. >> Can I go with her or >> You can go to the PD. You can't go with her in one of our squads, but you're more than welcome to go to the station. You would just have to drive there yourself. I can't. We can't take you in this way. >> Oh, I always wanted to. >> Where is Where is Where is the police station? >> So, it's at 850 Curtis in Downers Grove. >> Do you know where downtown is? >> No. >> Kind of. >> Best way to get there is you're going to take Fair View north. Okay. And then you're going to take a lefthand turn onto Maple. And you will take maple >> until >> uh Beldin. >> I'm freaking hungry. I I I need to drink something if I It's It's ridiculous. I I can't >> And then Beldin will tee into Curtis and you'll see our new building. >> You'll see. You'll see. >> I mean, guys, do you see the >> Can she Can she get ready at this? You guys can go inside the house. It's not like you need to surround the house or anything. >> We have no intentions on like surrounding the house. That's why I said if there's anything that she needs to leave with you, she's more than welcome to. Okay. >> Well, I'm going to go after you. >> But unfortunately, at this point right now, she's being detained and eventually going to be arrested. So, she cannot leave where we're at. >> That's my point. >> She can go to the bathroom. That's why I said you guys should go to the house. >> She has a washroom as soon as we get to the station. >> Yes, we have facilities at the station that she is more than welcome to use. Okay. And if she is thirsty, we have water. We'll provide her with water. If she would like a snack, we can provide her with a snack. >> We're not just going to let her go to the PD and then let her starve and be dehydrated. We're going. If she would like water, we can get her water. If she would like something to eat, we can get her a snack to eat. >> Okay. So, that's what I was saying. If there's anything that she doesn't want brought there, she can leave it with you and then we will place her under arrest. We'll take her back to the police department and then you can either you can follow us to the police department or you can meet us there. >> This is This is >> I will I will follow since I can go with you guys. >> This can I get dressed up? Yes, you can. >> You can get dressed. Unfortunately, your wife has to sit here. I We will wait until you get back. >> Yeah. Why don't you give your husband your purse? I mean, you don't need it. >> I do need it. >> Okay, that's fine if you want to bring it. >> If you want to bring it. It's just like I said, it's just if it's extra stuff if you don't want. >> Well, then doesn't she need like ID and stuff? Because then you're going to ask for ID and she won't have ID. So, then you're going to say like, "Oh, you have already have our her identification." >> But if if if you bring your purse with you, we have to search that entire purse and all its contents. >> So, I'm just trying to help with your privacy. >> So, if you don't want us to go inside your purse, >> you can bring your wallet and your phone if you want. That's fine. just leave the rest for our policy at the department. If she brings a bag, we >> So, so the people basically copied the license plate. That's how this thing started. I mean, how did they know her name and address and everything and suddenly four cops show up here? >> So, we were able to get her information um >> via our computer. >> Okay. But computer is not so smart. Somebody had to input the information in the computer. So I'm asking >> So a third party person a third party person informed us of her information. >> Of course. >> Okay. Let me let me >> Yes. Go ahead and get changed. >> What should I take? >> Just take take the wallet. >> Just take your wallet. >> So they won't accuse you that you're walking around without ID. >> Exactly. You guys are really I mean >> don't say anything. Don't say anything. Do >> what? >> Don't say anything. >> Okay. >> My daughter is so sick and she she lives in Boston. I I I need to I aim to talk to her and we'll let you make phone calls. Okay. We will we will allow you to make any phone call you need to make. >> Why don't we just do it in front? >> Yeah, fine. >> All right. So, ma'am, we do have to put you in handcuffs. Okay. We won't we will not put you in the squad car until your husband returns if that'll make you feel more comfortable. Okay. But for for the purposes of this incident >> for for Did you arrest him? I I want to see him arrested for for for what he did. I still have coffee on on my I was looking at this. My my hair was wet but everything was wet. My face >> I know. had you not had you not made the comment that you made >> and kept on going on with it >> because he he he if he wouldn't react you know how many people attack me okay because you have silly accent or something so I I'm going to go after them >> I can't make any comment on that man because I'm not in your shoes the only thing that we can make comments on are what we know >> and if what you're telling me is the truth that if someone makes fun of your comment you or your your accent and you don't do anything about it, I applaud you for your restraint. The problem is is in this situation, you were the one who made the initial contact between that couple and yourself by the comment that you made and that devolved the situation into where we're at now. >> Okay. >> I know that you're doing your job, but this is crazy. I thought you so I look like like a offender or or something. I I I just go after my life people. Wait, I mean there is there's so much you know wrong going on in the world and the people who are really attacking others and I I I just because I I made some comment and and uh and he he reacted. He actually interacted. Okay. He he he could say I don't know he he he could he he he just you know >> again unfortunately ma'am just due to the circumstances of this >> all right because you have been >> because you have been identified as the main aggressor in this situation and you attempting to grab his wife's phone out of his hand >> was something that she's allowed to do. And I understand it's frustrating, but >> he is she is not I mean because I I knew if if she she's gonna probably delete some parts of the video where where he was the the you know aggressor >> and if that's if that is the case then that will be the state's attorney's job to figure that out. Okay. But off of what we have right now, this is what we have to do. Okay. So, what we're going to do, so what we're going to do is to make it more comfortable for you, I will cuff you in front. So, it will not be behind your back. It'll be in front. Okay. So, the other officer here will hold on to your property. >> Okay. >> And just put your hands kind of like that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> We have to hold on to it because we've had people call and record with phones in the past and we have to put the stuff in the front of the car. Well, so what's wrong if she's recording is if she got recorded at Panera and you're saying it's it's perfectly legal. So it's like double standard now. >> Well, we're actually recording in the car itself. But again, it's just our policy that the stuff the front of the vehicle or the rear of the vehicle, not with the person that's in the vehicle. >> So I'm not going to go looking through any of this. I'm not going to try to unlock your phone, nothing like that. It's just going to go right into the front seat of my partner's phone. Sit tight real quick cuz I'm going to double lock this so they don't tighten on you when you're sitting inside the vehicle. Okay. >> I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. >> And we'll try to keep you as up to date as we can, but sometimes this is a little bit of a hurry up and wait because we have to make phone calls to the, you know, to the States attorney's office and then they got to call us back and then they're going to ask for information and then we got to get that information. So, I'm just telling you. So, we're going to go on the other side of the vehicle here. >> Wow. >> Oh my god. Go ahead. >> Where's my phone? >> I have it right here. Right here. >> We will allow you to talk to your daughter as soon as we get to the police department. Okay. >> This is so unjust. And just so you know, man, there's a camera on in there. >> That's good. That's good. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm not a camera. >> Like you have set something on me or something. Oh my gosh. been real hobby. So just get there. Stand by for me. >> Where's my phone? >> I'm sorry. >> Okay. Where's my phone? >> The other the other officer has your phone right now. caller came out and her Chevy Sonic is missing. >> So, the other officer has your phone. I >> I I need to >> And when we get to the police department, we will write down any phone numbers you need so you can make contact with anybody that you need to. Okay. You're not going to stop you from making any phone calls that you need to make. Okay. >> I need to I need to contact my daughter. I I don't have anyone else here. >> Okay. I will make sure that you able to contact your daughter. >> She's really sick. She She needs my attention. Not I don't want to make her even more feel even worse. My god, why are you guys doing this? I really didn't do anything. Do you know how long it's going to take? >> I don't, but we will try to get the situation taken care of as quickly as possible. >> But but I mean like like >> I wish I could give you an exact time frame, but unfortunately I cannot. You know what? I never had any anything any I mean I'm just citizen law abiding citizen here. I didn't come here to to you know to make some crimes like a lot of people do. My god. I I go after my business [Music] and I got I got actually, you know, really harassed just for for do I have to pay for a because I I I really don't have money. We do have like uh >> so we'll discuss all that when we get there. Okay. >> Okay. >> I mean this is you you're taking me to unknown because I I have no idea what's what's what's going to happen there. I mean can you at least give me a heads up that >> Yeah. So, we have to go through the booking procedures at the police department. >> Uh-huh. >> Those booking booking procedures. Those booking procedures includes fingerprinting. >> Okay. >> Okay. And completing complaint paperwork. >> Uh-huh. Uh-huh. >> Okay. Once that is completed and we get off the phone with the DuPage County States Attorney's Office. All right. That is when we will determine what will happen after that. Okay. So that's why I can't give you a full I cannot give you a exact time frame of how long this is going to take. All I can say is that we're going to try as work as quickly as possible. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Like I'm not offended. I I I never did anything wrong. I mean I have no records, guys. I'm just just, you know, wife and mother. I'm I'm sorry that I I talk too much. I I just [Music] like where is freedom of speech? You know that that that's I I mean if he would wouldn't attack me I I and and his wife was and she was actually taping me. Well, I was trying to take I mean I I can't be, you know, shaken, right? Because he he started attacking me. And you really can do with me anything but what you want because I I don't know my rights. I I'm not, you know, career um offender or something. So I I have no idea what my rights are. >> So that's why I explained it to you with the Miranda rightites. >> Yes. Yes. But but I it was so fast. I I I you know like you know I'm I'm speaking English. >> Make sure I I will make sure that I read them again. You won't. Okay. >> Sorry. >> Okay. It's like I have nothing against you guys. It really it just I mean such a shock especially that he was offended. Oh my god. He attacked me. And when I'm going to see my husband >> there. >> So >> we will allow you to see your husband once we're completed with our our booking procedures. Okay. >> I'm going to have a female officer come out to assist me. Okay. >> Okay. Sure. All right, ma'am. What we're going to do is I'm going to get you out. We're going to go through this door here. Can you open? >> Oh, yeah. No, I got you here. It's down here. >> Oh, okay. Oh, okay. >> You're okay. All right. Do you need any assistance getting out? >> I hope not. >> Okay. >> We can go right here. Okay. All right. So, we're going to go through Heat. Heat. Excuse me. Sorry. Sorry. Do Do you know if they're going to have something to eat? Because >> I don't know. >> I haven't eaten since morning. This is breakfast. >> I was hoping that we're going to come here and they're going to give me some crackers at least. >> Okay. cuz I I you know I feel like like I'm getting nauseous from D. >> Okay. What are you waiting for? We cannot go there. >> They have to come out here to get you. >> Oh, okay. So, you're not coming with me? Oh. together. >> Yes. >> I just have to ask a few questions. Okay. Any medical issues you need to be aware of and stuff? >> Um, no, not really. Anxiety. I I may get out of >> Okay. Do you take any medication for that? >> Not not recently. Sometimes when I I really have bad case I I do take stomachs. >> Okay. Is there any medication that you take daily? >> No. No, not just so bad. >> So other than the anxiety, do you have any other mental health issues? >> Um depression. >> Depression. Are you taking any medication for that? >> No, not really. Not now. I'm I'm taking more supplemental. >> Okay. Um and that's you there's no other medical issues right now like injuries. >> Nothing will I know about? No. Okay. Uh any alcohol or drug use daily? >> Um okay. And then uh no suicidal thoughts? Nothing currently? >> Nothing currently. >> Nothing in the past? >> No. No. >> No. Okay. It's going to be a minute. Um and then I'll bring you inside. We'll have you talk to the nurse. That way we can get at least get something from the inside. Okay. >> And you know what? Um do do you have any crackers? because I haven't eaten anything since um breakfast. So I I really feel that like um already they usually don't have breakfast before. If they have anything available, I can try and sneak some. >> They didn't give me anything and and I you know I I came back from from church and that they came to my house and they took me. >> So So I I really didn't eat anything. >> Okay, let me see what we got in crackers or something. >> I got you. I'll see what we got. Okay, give us a few more minutes. Yeah. [Music] Is it always so long or >> sometimes? Yeah. >> I wish that it would go cuz I don't want to be here either. So >> yeah, that's what I was thinking too. It must be for you. It must be boring too. So what do they do? They they prepare papers or or what do they do now? >> There's another male being um processed. They can't put males and females together. >> Oh, okay. Okay. So, I just need you to sign your her name off. I know. I was like, "Where did you set up?" And they're like, "Oh, I'm like, how did you do that? It's a female male." I'm like, "All right, well, that's cool." >> You need the micro. >> No, luck. We didn't take that. Just just like the intake. It's not a big deal. But >> yeah, I know. I was like, "What the hell?" I heard you come out. [Music] Heat. Heat.