Do you guys have a warrant? Cuz um
>> No, I already told you we don't have a
warrant. We don't have to have a
warrant.
>> Why are you here?
>> We're trying to get to that.
>> These two cops suddenly showed up and
began banging hard on this man's door.
The noise wouldn't stop, so he grabbed
his camera and opened the window to see
what they wanted. He asked if they had a
warrant, but they boldly said, "No, we
don't need one." Then came the classic
line. People who don't have anything to
hide usually come out and talk to us,
but that was just a tactic to lure him
outside. Let's see how it all unfolds.
Is
>> there a reason you don't want to open
the door? I just like to exercise my
rights to u through the um the wall.
It's just just my right.
>> Is there a reason you don't want to come
to the door? Typically people aren't
>> aren't really free to talk to us.
>> What's that?
>> You know why we're here?
>> No, sir.
>> Explain explain why you're here.
>> Sam, do you think you might know what
we're here in regards to?
>> No.
No, madam. I'm not obliged to answer any
questions. Um,
>> do you do you still run your cloud
connected business?
>> I'm obliged to answer that question.
>> Sam, why are you so nervous? We're just
trying to talk to you. We didn't say you
were in trouble. We didn't say we're
going to do anything, right? We're just
trying to talk to you.
>> Sure. Um,
>> okay.
>> I know you're obviously in a uniform.
you you came to my door and um
>> you know it's I was you know it was
shocked that you kind of um come along
and then sort of like start uh you know
at some strange time in the day. Um what
time is it now? Is it sort of the
afternoon?
>> Yeah, it's 3. It's 3:00.
>> Yeah. Honestly, this would be a simple
conversation. We could just sit down and
talk. We just want to talk for a second
about
>> I
What is the big fear that you have? Like
we're being too super nice barging at
your door. I just want to talk.
>> But like but Sam, you have to understand
too, just because we don't know you, I
don't feel comfortable talking to you
from a window, right? It's just not safe
from our perspective cuz we we don't
know what's inside your house, right?
>> Well,
>> so just from our perspective, we'd
rather just talk to you in person. You
can come outside, we can come inside.
This is not good for us as police
officers. So, okay. To be honest, I
don't feel it's good for me just to come
out and talk to you. I feel it's just
safer if I just do it from my own home.
>> I mean, do you have um particular
warrant or um am I sort of um am I being
detained or anything?
>> I told you we just came to talk to you
to get your side of the story. Right.
I'm not sure why you're
I I'm not sure why you're acting the way
you are. Right. Typically people who
have nothing to hide are kind of just
come out and talk to us.
>> Oh, sure. I don't have nothing to hide.
>> Okay. Well, your behavior is kind of
peculiar.
>> Excuse me.
>> It's Your behavior is a little bit odd.
Okay.
>> Well, I'm just basically in my own home.
I I heard, you know, a massive bang on
the door and I thought she was kind of
loud. So, I want to make sure you heard
and I and it's just routine for me to to
film. Um,
>> that's okay. And we film too, so that's
okay. But that's why I told you, Sam,
that we're police officers, right? I
wanted to make it clear to you so that
you know who we are and that's why we're
banging on your door because we're
trying to get a hold of you. We're
trying to talk to you.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Does that make a little bit more
sense now?
>> Can you just uh um reiterate yourself so
I can um get that into my mind? So,
>> okay. We're we're police officers.
>> Yeah.
>> From the Pasadena Police Department.
>> Pasadena Police Department. We banged on
your door in your window so that you
could come talk to us.
>> We weren't sure if anybody was home. So,
we wanted to make sure if you were home
that you would come talk to us.
>> You are C. Rosa. What's your number?
>> Oh, what what number you're talking
about? An ID number?
>> Yes.
>> 7653.
>> 76593.
>> Oh, 7653.
>> 7653. And you are
>> Winkler.
>> Winkler.
>> Yeah.
>> N Winkler. And your number is
>> 9511. 951
>> one. Okay.
>> 9511.
>> Sam Hughes.
>> Um, am I obliged to give you my ID?
>> I know this. You're making this a lot
longer and strung out. It's a pretty
basic question.
>> We could have already been gone by now.
>> Yeah, you're making this really weird.
You are making this a bit weird.
>> I mean, the question is,
as again, do you guys have a warrant?
Cuz um
>> No, I already told you we don't have a
warrant. We don't have to have a
warrant.
>> Why are you here? We're trying to get to
that. We're just trying to set the basis
of our conversation, but
>> Well, you could get to it now, please,
if you don't mind.
>> What did you say?
>> You could get to it a little quicker as
to why you're here, cuz it's uh
>> Well, you're the one that's prolonging
it, not us.
>> You know, I was just having a little
rest in the room. Had a big knock on the
door and then I I sort of like thought
um you uh saw two people in sort of
uniform and then
>> Yeah, we've established that. And we
already explained to you who we are and
why we're here. We've already been over
that. Okay.
>> Is there something you're looking
around? Are you nervous about someone?
>> Excuse me.
>> Are you Are you looking around? We're
right here. We just want to talk to you.
I don't know what you're looking around
for.
>> Well,
I mean, I don't right now.
>> I don't really have to talk to you
because uh it's my right.
>> This is Listen, my partner said, this is
a chance for you to see your side of
what we're about to tell you. So, it's
in your best interest to talk about it.
Okay. Usually this this I feel this
would violate the fourth amendment
constitutional rights.
>> It's not. Just so you know, it's not.
>> Well, it sort of is because you're not
really coming to uh
>> you're not really telling me what it's
about. You're not
>> That's because you just come randomly to
my door.
>> Trying to get to it, but we're kind of
going in circles with you. There's no
violation of your rights, so that's
incorrect.
>> Okay.
Can we move on?
Go ahead.
>> Okay.
>> Get over.
>> It's my understanding you go to group
meetings and you are uh associate with
certain uh people you wish to work with
on LinkedIn. You don't understand you
know the the website LinkedIn.
>> LinkedIn very well.
>> Okay. Perfect. You do. Do you remember
sending messages to a Chariza?
I heard no don't know of any Teresa.
>> Okay.
>> Do you remember meeting a woman at
Raymond in Raymond Colorado?
>> Raymond, Colorado at Crossroads?
>> No.
>> You exchanged business cards and then
you told her she was cute and asked her
out for coffee.
>> I don't know of anything.
>> I'll get on your level. Chiara
>> Scara Mosino.
>> Don't know. Don't know. Not very clear
on
>> You have no recollection of emailing
her? Okay. Okay. Well, you know, I just
so you know, we have all those emails,
okay? So, we know that you emailed her.
>> Okay? It's pretty clear. Has your
picture. Okay? So, we're not going to
play this game. I was trying to be
honest with you.
>> I'm trying to give you a chance to speak
your side. Now's your chance, right?
Because all we're going to do is we're
going to write up a case. If you don't
want to give your side of the
>> Now's your chance to give us
>> Well, I don't really have to talk to
you.
>> You don't. And that's why we're here to
talk to you to see if you wanted to tell
us your side of the story. If you don't
want to tell us your side of the story,
then we will just write up a case
against you. Okay.
>> Okay. No, I don't I'm going to say
anything. I just It's my right to say
nothing to the police.
>> Okay.
>> All righty. Well, somebody else
>> fine.
>> No,
>> this didn't change anything for me.
>> No, it's the same.
>> I was I I really would have liked to
hear yours story. That's all. I have no
interest in this like as far as I'm not
swaying either side. I'm for the victim
and the suspect. I'm just trying to
figure out what's going on. And so right
now our our our topic is some emails you
gave to a female and then some another
another anonymous emails that she
received and now someone's scared for
their life. So I want to make sure you
weren't part of that.
>> The emails are pretty inappropriate and
very threatening.
>> So obviously that's a crime. You can't
threaten people and you can't harass.
>> Well, I know the law. Okay. But
>> so that's where we're at. So like I
said, if you don't want to tell us your
side of the story, then we're done here.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> Okay. Do you want to talk to us?
>> No. All righty.
>> Have a good day, fine. Have a good day.
>> These officers weren't there to find
truth. They were there to force
compliance. And when someone knows their
rights, that's when the badges start to
feel threatened. This wasn't about
harassment. It was about control. And
this man proved that standing your
ground peacefully can expose everything
wrong with that kind of authority.