I don't know what y'all found but I'm
going say this right now to save us some
time I don't know what happened to Mike
I don't have nothing to do with what
happened to
Mike I have not a clue what happened to
M why would all that stuff be in your
room I have an innocent man buried on my
property rotting can I keep my stuff by
I didn't know I'm saying that I did not
do it and he was saying I'm going to
lose everything and why should I lose
everything when I didn't kill the man
suspects some times think they can make
their way out of jail by playing it
smart and trying to outsmart the
detectives but what happens when they
fail miserably and only make it worse
for themselves here are five of the most
incredible times when suspects thought
that they were smarter than the
detectives but it turned out to be quite
the opposite starting with 41-year-old
Malik Abdul Salam who in December 2019
was picked up as a suspect in the murder
of 31-year-old Mel kabed although I have
enjoyed talking to you in your Academy
award-winning
performance this is your opportunity to
set the record straight because I don't
think you're a coldblooded Killer Mike
who is Malik's seller had been missing
for quite a while his body was found a
mile from Malik's house wrapped up and
thrown over the bridge detectives
believe Malik is actually the murderer
but they want to be sure first of all
the times suspects have tried to fool
detectives this is one where the suspect
thought he was the smarter one in the
room when in fact he was digging his own
grave just say thing I just want you to
listen Okay so we've been investigating
this case probably since oh Wednesday
Thursday and we've learned a lot of
information we've got a different
perspectives from different people um
the victim's friends the victim's
Associates some people that know you um
and that what kind of led us to where we
are today okay I understand that you
were involved in some type of conflict
with somebody and I think probably
things got out of hand and I we just
want to hear your side of the story your
perspective I've got one side of the
story I'd like to have your side so
because of that and you seem I don't see
there's any reason to disagree with you
but because you're under arrest I've got
to read your rights to you so I want to
read your rights to you and then I kind
of explain from there but I just want to
kind of lay the foundation am I under
arrest for right now you're under arrest
for disposal the warrant is for disposal
of a dead
body I can barely walk right I'm just
telling you that's what the warrant's
for there there's a lot of information
we want to be able to give to you and
provide to you during this process too
it's like it's a two-way it's we're
hoping this can I show you something my
ankle is swollen bro and it's been like
that for
probably I got a doctor's not well you
know what we appreciate and I'm telling
you bro like disposal well listen we
appreciate you telling us that and
that's part of the reason why we're here
is because we want to get that type of
information we want to hear hear
everything that you have to say we want
to know about that at this point
detectives hadn't revealed who the dead
body was and in order to test Malik's
reaction they read him his rights not
only are his reactions theatrical they
are also suspicious to the detectives
questioning him Malik's first mistake is
when he didn't question who was actually
murdered and why he was being charged
for it instead he jumped to defend
himself whenever cops say we want to
hear your side of the story it usually
means they have little to no evidence on
you but want you to fill the blanks in
and incriminate yourself Med you have
medication at all nothing for pain for
your need no right for someone who has a
leg injury because of which he can
barely walk Malik denies he's taking any
medicine for it he then has read his
Miranda rights and despite putting up a
performance he doesn't fight it or
complain about it if you want to answer
questions now without a lawyer president
you will still have the right to stop
answering questions at any time you also
have the right to stop answering
questions at any time if you want to
talk to a lawyer all right you
understand all that okay I put these my
initials here because I read those to
you I know I know this is kind of
ridiculous let what we got to go through
so what I would like you to do if you
want to read this aloud or read it to
yourself you can and then sign here just
saying that you understand what your
rights are that's all that that's all
you're agreeing to that you understand
what's going
on great right after having been read
his rights is the crucial moment when he
can either call for a lawyer to end the
interrogation or fall into the
detective's Trap and start talking and
the latter is exactly what Malik does me
and Mike okay so when's the last time
you saw
him had have been probably about a week
and a half
ago okay and so how do you know him um
Abu introduced me and Mike um through
school uh smoked I probably buy 3.5 gr
from him $40 bro uhhuh always money up
front you buy from a or from Mike from
Mike I met him go over to this crib
smoked a couple times on our lunch break
man
um all right every so you said go to his
crib or go to AB Boo's crib we go to his
crib Mike's crib so how many times have
you bought from him you think probably
twice all right over course of what
period probably a month or two I don't
even know it's just something like new I
ain't the we place I'm just asking for
probably something like new all right so
but you're talking about a couple grams
at a time yeah and it's never nothing
it's never I OU it's never uh I'll pay
you on Friday it's here you go and here
I go and his weed is good and my money
is good and me and Mike are cool okay
having been asked about his relationship
with Mike Malik starts talking about it
and says everything's perfectly fine but
Malik thinks he knows better and does
not question for a second why the police
are asking him about his relationship
with Mike the deceased person in this
this case all of us know that if the
police ask you for information on a
person it is because most likely they
are dead and you're the suspect you said
over over a month or
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two and
so go ahead a dead disposal of a never
mind what tripping you
out I'm in school bro right you're
making some
yourself absolutely and so we don't want
to derail that that's why we're trying
to get your kind side of the story
despite showing shock at the situation
Malik doesn't ask for a lawyer and
continues talking detectives then
question Malik about what seems to be a
drug deal gone bad and tell you why
I me and ab boo we cool we talk you know
what I'm saying so I I believe I
probably mentioned like Abu I got a
family member he got his hands on some
pills
so what kind of pills is mik think he
buying perin said perk tens tens okay y
perk tens yep and it was for 550 for 80
yeah okay so did did you set him up with
the uncle and they went direct or are
you in the middle everything was like
the like my uncle the where we was
parked and where he was parked he can
see Mike cuz I was pointing to him like
that's that's the guy he's good he's not
how did the deal work did you bring Mike
to the car or you took the money to the
I took the money to the car so Mike gave
you the 550 and you took it to the car
yeah and then I took the pills from my
uncle and then brought it right back to
the car all right and then where did
that happen at what um and the mark the
mark uh complex alexand Y and the
parking lot but the pills were
fake from the get-go from the get-go I
don't know pills you didn't know that I
didn't know that like I said listen when
I tell you every I've been in the
streets for a while every protocol that
I was supposed to follow to verify to
make sure that this thing was
good
um uh I didn't
do you know what I'm saying I just had
the pills I trusted he was my Uncle Mike
trusted
me like I said it you were kind of
putting the middle of it you know so did
you really know the pills were fake or I
swear I didn't so far it seems something
went wrong and Malik paints himself just
as a middleman but detectives know
there's got to be something more than
that who called The Bluff on that what
do you mean like who's who knew they
were fake well Mike found out they were
fake how did he find out I guess he
looked them
up this is after he bought them yeah
okay so I came after the deal was done
where did yall go so I left you know um
matter of fact my son was with me
so I left went picked up my son came
right back let Mike know look I ain't on
no BS bro you know what I mean we cool
let's try to find my uncle you know what
I'm saying so uncle gave us a runaround
for a few days blah blah so how' you
what did you do to go about getting his
money back I couldn't do anything but
did you all make a road trip or anything
we came to um St Mary's to look for okay
his his um what day did you that the
same I can't remember you know what you
can even do to find out that there was
no beef or whatever um my license got
taken that night okay so St Mary's
County has my license and that'll tell
you the day the day you went up there
around the day that we went out there
and um and he had a ring on his phone or
whatever you know the ring the doorbell
ring and um me and Mike were in the
picture but it was me Mike and Abu okay
you know what I'm saying together to to
to try to get the
money
yeah here it is confirmed that a drug
deal had indeed gone wrong but the
question remains how did Mike end up
dead out of this situation not long
after Malik is seen getting a bit more
frustrated with the nature of the
situation but again he thinks words will
set him free not knowing that speaking
to the police is the last thing should
do guilty or not you came back from
Maryland You Dropped a boo off and then
you and Mike went back to your house
yeah and Mike a couple days or he just
left right away he he stayed a day two
so he stayed that night when you guys
got back maybe late and then he stayed
the following night yeah
okay did you guys ever go back to
Maryland again don't don't quote me we
don't you know what I'm saying right
it's a like this is what did you say I
said yall ever go back to Maryland again
again Noah uh-uh nope we never went back
to Maryland again
nope we left it alone I never heard I
mean okay to
me I don't have no way of getting in
contact with Mike right okay you see
what I'm saying all my when the last day
you saw Mike I can't U like I said
probably
about I
say the longest of week two
weeks well two weeks ago a week and a
half ago and Abo's dates might be wrong
but Abu said the pill original pill
transaction where you all were smoking
you all talked about pills and did that
deal was on Thursday okay a week ago
Thursday the 12th okay so then Thursday
night you go to Maryland okay um come
home and drop B boo off you got stay the
night so that's Friday now okay you wake
up Friday morning does Mike leave that
day or does he leave another day this
Saturday okay so you think Mike
Saturday yeah cuz he was like you know
um matter of fact I want to go meet my
uncle we met up in a um at Shoppers and
you know my uncle said he's going to try
to find out where did Mike meet your
uncle too that day or just you and him
just me and my uncle okay all right um
now was it Saturday yeah um oh I like I
said the days I I'm just trying to I
know I met with my uncle you call him he
met me at a uh uh uh the Shoppers hyb
Valley okay trying to figure out what's
going on but um his brother and got back
told Mike look Mike um you know still on
that um he was like look I'm about to
roll out meet up with
somebody you know like I said me and
Mike
wasn't best friends you know what I'm
saying unbeknownst to him from the
information Malik has told the
detectives he might have been the last
person to see Mike alive Malik has a way
of revealing information and not even
seconds later he contradicts himself by
saying he can't really remember he also
doesn't hold himself back from throwing
his friends under the bus if it means
his freedom said me and Mike
wasn't best friends you know what I'm
saying we was cool like there was no
beef between me and Mike right you know
what I'm saying he could have he knew he
could have stayed with me as long as he
went he I knew that he owed these guys
$550 I knew that Mike didn't want to go
back around his way me and a boot told
him you think he was afraid me and a
boot told Mike we said Mike listen Mike
it's $550 bro talk to the guys I when I
get paid I will even help pay the
$550 back I told him that me and Abu
told him that when I got to school Abu
said said all he got to do is call the
dude I didn't already talk to him
whether or not that happens I don't know
right right I don't know who he I don't
know who he kep the money from my
impression was he it was his money right
right not that that mean that you think
I wasn't even getting nothing out to
deal
right I wasn't even
getting M tell you who the 550 was from
no I don't know who
I don't know who all I know is that guy
did not want to stay at his crib for
whatever reason and I told him and like
even me and a Bo me and a Bo we was like
yo we'll go together and explain it to
these
guys whoever they were we don't
know I don't know whether AB knows or
not I don't know that's AB Boo's neck of
the woods Malik's attempts to brush off
any involvement in this case prove
unsuccessful as the detective keep
inquiring him further on the matter and
then he's told that Mike's dead that
brings us to this the charge the the
dead body okay do you have any idea what
I'm talking about no do you know who's
dead no okay Mike's
dead your weed guy is
dead you look
surprised it's $5 freaking
50
yep somebody killed him over 550 I guess
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so what you know about
that you seem like you're
surprised bro I'm sitting here like yo
I've been straight and and now you're
telling me about a disposed body I'm
like my [ __ ] I can barely walk what are
you talking about right a disposed body
I can barely freaking walk and now
you're telling me is
Mike I I'm telling you AB told me at
school everything was all right with him
right so when was that when did he tell
you that like when Monday Tu I was cuz I
haven't heard the weekend after y went
to Maryland I haven't I haven't heard
from him so the next time me and ab Bo
got back I was like everything good Bo
was like everything should be um you
know I talk to the guys you know what I
mean cuz apparently they know the same
people I don't particularly honestly
know how true that is right but hold on
M all
right when told the truth it's funny how
Malik seems surprised it's Mike who's
dead as throughout the interview he
tried to emphasize that there's no bad
blood between them when he didn't know
it was Mike who was murdered another
interesting note is the detective's
demeanor and attitude with Malik he
never makes it feel as if he's the
suspect and he's just having a chat with
him a very common tactic everyone should
be aware of he's my we guy right was
your
weekend he's
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dead it's absolutely ridiculous it is
somebody get killed over 5 or
something and after having pretended to
be surprised by the news and trying to
brush the blame away from him he's
finally confronted with the truth is a
vis a mile from your
house huh the body was found a mile from
your
house what what that's even more
ridiculous isn't
it yep a mile from your house if a bird
flew it' be even
shorter he was thrown over a
bridge wrapped up and thrown over I
don't think somebody thought the police
would find him
so all although I have enjoyed talking
to you and your Academy Award winning
performance this is your opportunity to
set the record straight because I don't
think you're a cold blooded
killer but you've got some problems this
got out of hand and you and some friends
may maybe took up yourself or you did it
yourself or some friends but we've been
in your house all day
long we did a search one at your house
today okay you've got some issues that
you need to get in front of
all right like I said no disrespect
you're older guy like I am that's why
I'm shooting with you straight all right
all right we found the packing materials
the packing tape the garbage bags M uh
blood and the garbage can in your room
blood all over the floor from where it
was cleaned up we have a special
chemical that brings that all back up
cuz people think they clean it good and
they don't so you've got a lot of
explaining to do or you're looking at a
murder
charge I don't know what you're talking
about it's awful coincidental the
detectives have had enough of Malik's
theatrics and give him a chance to come
clean shockingly when confronted with
this information Malik still denies
having anything to do with the murder
Mike was at your apartment he's having
an issue with money and lo and behold he
dumped a mile from your from your place
and everything is in your room the the
thing is bro sometimes things happen
they're not planned out for months
listen but listen listen just real quick
listen man there's every circumstance is
different you're going to get an
opportunity and we're going to be fair
with you okay because what you have to
say is just as important anybody else
you're a human just like we are and we
want to hear what you have to say but
you have a short window here I think
this got out of hand I do too I don't
think you meant to do this or the people
you were with meant to do this it got
hand to hand and then you panic like
we've all been in that situation you get
something oh man I messed up and then
you make you make a poor decision and a
poor decision and a poor decision but
you got to get ahead of this now because
you've been doing good you've been on
the right path and this is going to mess
that path up if you don't make it right
look all I'mma say is whatever y'all
just said about me trying to clean up
something or
whatever a got nothing to do with that
why don't you tell M Mike was
killed at your
place Mike was
stabbed at your place his blood is at
your place in your
bedroom you got to deal with that you
can't run from that I don't know nothing
about that well who would have been in
your room than you I don't know who Mike
knows I don't know nothing why would
Mike why would somebody come to your
house to see Mike listen not only that
he even tries to pin it on on his
roommates who didn't even know Mike
that's a lot okay but you need to
understand too there's roommates all my
roommates can be questioned everybody in
my house can be questioned yeah but
here's here's the thing I don't know
what y'all found but I'mma say this
right now to save us some time I don't
know what happened to Mike I don't have
nothing to do with what happened to
Mike I have not a clue what happened to
my why would all that stuff be in your
room I do not know well who would look
to set you up happened to Mike I don't
know Mike was my drug man he was he sold
me $50 worth of
marijuana
um I didn't owe Mike any money Mike
didn't owe me no money Mike was cool
with
me I don't know who he got that bread
from or nothing but for me to be
involved and killing
Mike for any reason over
$550 is not something that I would do it
was at this point our bad actor Malik
realized he had been caught and refused
to indulge further and asked for a
lawyer Malik had really thought he'd be
walking out today as it started out as a
civilized conversation what amazes me is
that he never asked in the beginning
when they told him he was under arrest
for a corpse or disposal of a corpse
whose corpse or why they're questioning
Malik was originally charged with
unlawful disposal of a body but now
because he let his mouth run wild he was
charged with the murder of Mike kabed
today he is being held without bond at
the Fairfax adult detention center where
he awaits punishment and it takes an
expert detective to find out the real
criminal behind a crime a prime example
is this detective who played the role of
good cop and bad cop when she realized
she was being taken for a spin by a
witness to a murder on 23rd July 2020
911 received a chilling call regarding a
murder witnessed by the caller in
Orlando Florida what are you calling
about gunshots
multiple did you see anything suspicious
or you just heard it no man I'm just
hear okay how many did you
hear oh man it's about eight or 10 if
not more like this a AK47 it's a another
a TN and2 I can officers arrived on the
scene to find the lifeless body of
41-year-old Eloy LeBron inside his
Toyota surveillance footage and witness
testimonies LED officers to two suspects
19-year-old Maria Hamilton and jaria
Caitlyn at the time of the murder a
white sedan was seen leaving the scene
officers then observed footage of the
same white sedan parked near an
apartment complex with our two suspects
getting out of the car officers decide
to question a family member who knows
the two suspects well they plan to gain
possible information on who might have
committed the crime and the girls were
not
home and as you sit here today swearing
to tell the truth so you don't get in
trouble you're saying you do not know
where they
were or whose house they were at or but
you're telling me the car was not at
home at at 11:00 when you
left and it was not at Sun's when you
got there is that
true yeah it wasn't there it wasn't
there and the girls were not at Sunny
you know someone in that vehicle
murdered someone
yesterday somebody in the vehicle yes
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ma'am that's that's what I'm telling you
right now someone in that car murdered
someone
yesterday what you take Mur
do you understand how serious this is
now
yeah
like do you understand do you understand
the consequences for lying to the police
in a homicide investigation is a third
degree felony mhm okay do you understand
how difficult it is to get into medical
school with a Fed third degree
felony any charges this hard it's very
tied to murder it's very
difficult medical schools don't look too
kindly upon that
you were with these girls all day and
all night yeah well not really cuz I was
at work um in the morning
mhm the detective soon discovers that
the female there questioning has an
obvious tell she can't help but smile
and laugh whenever she feels
uncomfortable with this information the
detective confronts the female urging
her to open up about her sister and
cousin but you these are your this is
your family I know but you're in the car
with them you go pick them up you go
home with them you guys are all the same
age approximately but we're not really
like that close that's what I'm trying
to tell you cuz you expect me to know
everything we not really like not
everything but is it every day that your
family is involved in
homicide no okay if you want to sit here
and and tell me and make me believe that
you don't know who your cousin and your
sister and your cousin are dating
which I find very hard to believe
especially since your sister is possibly
pregnant by this guy I find very hard to
believe that I didn't anticipate you
lying about I mean because they don't
really like it's not like they really in
the relationship with because you don't
have to be in a relationship to be
pregnant by someone I mean but if you
talk to more than one person then it's
not really jiah your sister's with him
now she's at his house right now how do
we know this and you
don't she's with him right now she
stayed the night with him last
night you're telling me I know more
about her relationship than you that's
that's ludicrous I don't expect you to
know everything I do expect you to know
things that girls talk about like who
you're dating who might have gotten you
pregnant and I don't know who might have
murdered someone in my
car that's not something that happens
every day your family is kneed deep in
this
and you were in the car yesterday and
today you got stopped in the car today
yeah that's I I honestly don't think
that you are out you know shooting at
people I doesn't seem like it's in your
nature okay you're a good
kid but I do think you're holding
back okay but it's cuz you expect me to
know names but I don't really like I
expect you to tell me what you learned
about a homicide yesterday involving a
car that you were in
today what did you
learn this is someone's life I know and
you are wanting me to believe that
you're going to spend your
entire professional existence saving
lives it starts to
dead it starts with the life that you
are aware of that was snuffed out short
yesterday that's the life that it starts
with if you're going to tell me you're
going to save lives it starts with
his cuz his is important
too all I'm asking you is what
happened I don't know he keep the female
denies knowing anything about the crime
the detectives then talk to a witness
who claims he saw a passenger and a
driver both men fire their weapons at
each other windows 10 windows and then
this car cut a right twoo pickup yeah
two door pickup this car CAU her right
and then you said he cut him off he cut
him off cut the truck off right and was
shooting and he was steady shooting but
he was steady when he's turning he's
shooting and he he kept going shooting
shooting shooting and stop point to
where he was shooting at he start right
here he started shooting right here over
this way um the passenger he he's it's
like he go was like that he was shooting
like that would you say his head's above
the hood a little a little but he's more
like right okay right his arm shooting
over the top top of the car I fig he
could have shot the other guy in the
hand you know what I mean okay the way
he was yeah what was the other guy doing
the driver the driver he shooting was he
shooting like is he driving like this
you using his right hand yes I'm sorry
he was shooting so he's shooting across
his body like this right windows were
down Windows was window was like right
here right here right yeah like halfway
right halfway so he can see how dark was
the tent would you think if there or
well was there even any tent yeah seeing
as how the witness believed the suspects
to be men detectives think that Maria
and jaria were just the backseat
passengers supposedly protecting the men
who committed the crime the officers
decide to bring in Maria for questioning
first did detective Overfield explain to
you why you're here no he did not no
okay and this is the type of stuff I'm
talking about it's just a lack of
communication okay what he did was come
to my mom job okay and tell her that my
phone was released and I can go pick up
my phone but I told M that don't sound
too right but whatever so like 10
minutes later they come bum rush the
house I was that let me come my side out
I that was it so you felt it was a
little bit of a my thing was like you
said you you close with my mom right
y'all could talk about anything M he
could have came to my mom and said your
daughter got to want for her rest be
done with it and it could have been done
with it turn it in turn it in just like
that but he going to go lie to my mom
tell me pick up my phone when I already
knew I probably had to war for my rest
because y not give anybody no their
phones back and I can care less about
the phone I bought me a new phone it's
materialistic I don't care about the
phone but that led you to believe I knew
I probably had a Warr but my thing was
why would you lie just all that could
have been avoided avoided just be
straight with me just keep I'm growing
just like you just told me I keep it
real just just be honest tell us what
happened and we'll be done with it we'll
walk away okay so obviously when someone
is killed it's you watch these TV shows
it's a murder investigation they don't
stop we work I mean detective sharp and
I everybody in the unit we work just
like we would for your brother your
mother your cousins your boyfriend we
work 24/7 for these families that's our
job okay the investigations never stop
forever and when I retire or something
happens to me somebody somebody else
going to pick it up we have to do that
so we have been working this for two
months now it'll be 2 months in a couple
days it'll be two months these F this
family is desperate they need answers
they want to know what happen I
understand but it's like y'all want me
to admit to something that I don't know
I told y'all what I know I told yall
what I was doing over there I should
never been over there I already told y
it's like yall want me to just say I was
shooting which I was not shooting I
never pulled a trigger day of my life
okay and you know and I don't know that
detective Overfield agrees with me on
this but you know I looked at you and
said I know you didn't of course you
said I didn't and I looked at Gia and I
said I know you
didn't cuz girls don't do that girls
girls don't have beef like that if you
do you're going to go to scrapping yeah
you're you're going to get on social
media and sell each other out that's
what girls do okay you might tell your
boy I don't like that girl I don't like
that boy D and let them handle it
absolutely that you might you might set
a up to get shot that's what girls do
not this one I'm but what I'm saying is
is I looked at both of you dead in your
eye and I said I know you didn't the
detective uses what girls do
convincingly while showing no traces of
judgment her ability to participate in
the suspect's dialect is a very
underrated method of building Rapport
she wants to show Maria that she trusts
her word and really believes that Maria
would never do such a thing when in fact
it is just a tactic to get Maria
comfortable enough to open up but the
information that we have the shots came
from your car do you have evidence yes
what evidence okay and this is what is
this is what's going to this is what's
going to screw you over in the long run
okay and this is what I'm trying to
avoid happening to you the evidence is
super strong against the
occupants of that vehicle do I think it
was you and Gia God I pray to Lord that
you girls wouldn't go over there and
shoot up that damn street I pray to God
but two people shot from that car the
car that you own the car that we
recovered two people shot from that car
and yes we can prove that and I'm not
bullying you or you would not be sitting
here how can you prove it you will see
through testimony and evidence that that
came from that car okay one of the
reasons suspects talk to police is to
find out what exactly the police know
the detective needs to convince Maria
that the evidence against her is strong
while not giving out important details
of the case or a lie that Maria would
catch on to is the testimony strong is
the evidence strong against the two of
you for murder
yes it's super strong or you would not
be sitting here and your cousin is going
to be occupying the seat
shortly it's bad for both of you do I
think either one of you with the actual
trigger people I would be very very
surprised and I've been doing this 10
years I just can't I just can't see the
animosity in your heart or in your
cousin's heart you girls are working
girls you have jobs you both want to go
you're going to school or you want to go
to school and you have Futures you have
plans you have things that you're doing
okay that's it you smoke a little weed
you hang out with some of these guys
they're your boyfriends we understand
that we know where Brandon was mhm we
verified as
Alibi we know from your phone exactly
where you were that's why we kept your
phone but your testimony just backed up
what your phone already told us okay
what you told us we checked your phone
your phone backed you up you were there
you were there when the shots rang out
we know that in fact you and gyia had
such specific information very very
detailed information about what
happened you couldn't have been anywhere
else you had to have been there when it
when it occurred you had to have been
there when no shots were fired cuz you
both knew too much that wasn't hear say
testimony you didn't hear that from the
boys in the car you were there yeah I
told you I was there you were there and
you were honest about that and so was
your cousin you were both honest about
that
okay what we can't get
past is
how those shots came from your car if
you're in the if you're in the front
passenger seat where you said you were
and jar is driving which you and her
both said she
was if the two of you don't fire those
guns who
did no shot was fired up my car
detect why would I jeopardize everything
I got for I hope some boys that who
knows I'll be with 10 years from now
correct I'm in love with my boyfriend
like you said mine was at work but like
I said why would I jeopardize I'm young
yeah I'm in love him I say that but I'm
18 years old why would I jeopardize that
from 10 years you don't have to je you
don't have to jeopardize it because
first of all we talk with him first of
all we know where he was we verified it
second of all he was mad as at you for
just going over there to buy weed he
tell me don't go over there buy weed he
already know what this he already he
already knows he already knows I took it
upon myself he was at word so it's not
your boy
and it's not I would never think that
you first of all you don't have to worry
about it cuz we know Brandon wasn't
there but Scotty
was Scott was not with
us Scott was not with
us so when did he get out of the car
when I when she picked me up it was
nobody it was me and her so I don't know
before then but when it was me and her
so you did not get in the back seat no
when she picked me up no from McDonald's
I was never in the car with McDonald's I
know cuz they picked you up after they
went to McDonald's yes okay who was in
the car at McDonald's I don't what I was
told was all of them but I was never in
there with them with McDonald I don't
know who was for my side I don't know
who was in the car with McDonald I
wasn't there I wasn't with them I was
still home they could so you just said
from what I was told all of them who's
all of them who she was with pimping her
and pimping that's what she told me her
pimping and Reggie was in the car her
pimping and Reggie okay so pimping
meaning Scotty B okay her pimping and
Reggie all right according to Maria she
and jaria were in the area at the time
of the shooting hearing the shots and
seeing the victim in his vehicle the
scared females went to do their laundry
however body language never fails while
Maria may say no with her mouth her head
would nod yes that's when the detective
realizes the murderer may just be
sitting in front of her you're telling
me you girls were the only ones in the
car yeah we was so maybe I'm misreading
you think I pull a trigger maybe I'm
misreading you maybe maybe maybe both
you girls are much more badasses than I
ever
imagined I I was I was always taught if
somebody can't do it theyel why would I
be doing it I a't going to do nobody
Dirty Work I got done much since I'm not
doing nobody dirty work unless it's for
yourself or your cousin and I
wasn't and that and that and that is the
only explanation I'm missing it and
maybe detective Overfield been right all
alone I'm missing it you think we the
one who did it
100%
100% this is why we argue this is why I
ask detective sharp to come in the room
because we argue because you don't want
to see detective Overfield and I argue
let me tell you something my thing is I
wasn't putting my hand out to no I
wouldn't put my hand out to shoot
nothing this going to identify me off
for I got a tattoo that's going as soon
as Maria is confronted with the fact
that she may be the murderer her
demeanor changes from calm to nervously
rocking back and forth and not even
moments later in her vulnerable state
Maria has made a mistake which the
detective is about to pick up on she
mentions that the witnesses would be
able to identify her by a tattoo on her
hand either way it go if I shot my hand
this way or through the passage I got
something that's going to identify and I
cannot deny these tattoos when did you
get those I'll have IDE this
like few weeks ago I think but you know
what I'm saying you didn't have them
before no but this right here will
identify but you didn't have them before
I had this one before not when you stuck
that one out the window over the hot of
the car you did not have that I did not
have this one though correct so it
wouldn't identify you when was what what
you just did of over the roof of the car
like that shooting M you did not have
that tattoo I'm saying I wouldn't do
that cuz I know it's ways to identify me
and it's ways to identify cuz J have a
tattoo too on both on things she had
words before her so I know it's ways to
identify
sweetheart I know but you said that you
had that and you didn't no I didn't say
I had these I'm saying these will
identify me a tattoo identify me I never
said I had this cuz I know I had this
two weeks ago all right you just got it
I can tell that the ink is fresh it's
brand new yes I just got it yeah okay I
have tattoos too so I'm familiar okay
all right so
at at the moment that you shot out the
vehicle over the roof of the car there
was not a tattoo on your forarm is sh
the vehicle the car okay all right now
this arm wouldn't have done the shooting
cuz obviously You' have had to shoot
over her face in front of your cousin
and that would have been
dangerous
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so I imagine yall you girls had a beef
with this boy I guess I guess you know
and sometimes sometimes experience is
not my experience is why I say what I
say okay but sometimes experience is
just maybe some of the newer detectives
are just closer to the streets than I am
because I'm older I tend to read people
but you guys are a new generation you
guys are a new generation apparently my
experience is is is making me argue on
your behalf and maybe it's because of my
connection to your mom maybe it's my
experience that's tending to argue on
your behalf for and I'm wrong and I've
been wrong for
months and maybe detective over Field's
been
right and and and it's it's certainly
it's certainly all of the evidence that
he's tried to and and I and I don't know
why I argue in the face of evidence
because evidence is what it is MH okay
testimony is testimony evidence is
evidence physical evidence is physical
evidence but my history has told me you
girls don't do this it's just not in
your nature to do this but maybe I'm
thinking of my generation or people a
little bit younger than me and not the
girls who are 19 to 25 of today cuz when
I listen to your
mom your mom told your your mom told us
a lot about garia she she she wasn't as
convinced that you would do something
like that unless you were with jaria but
she was dead set convinced jaria would
jaria straight up cold she was she sat
in this chair where you're sitting
right now and said
jaria
yes but I don't think my daughter would
do it maybe she's just trying to protect
you but I don't think my daughter would
do that unless she was with her
cousin hoping to drive a wedge between
the two females the detective suggests
that jaria may have been the one to
shoot the victim that's crazy that you
think like that I didn't I didn't before
about 5 minutes
ago I didn't thank I didn't until until
you did the thing with the tattoo in the
arm yeah like I said yeah now I do okay
that's F now I do now I you have any
questions yeah I'm sure you do I
do
um I don't know as much as detective spr
knows about this case but just listening
to I was out there that day and talking
to detective Overfield and detective
break today about this and listening to
you
I and knowing the evidence that they
have and what the couple of things that
you've said that have and they're little
they're little
details but you you've as adamant that
you are that you didn't have a gun and
the shots didn't come from your car
you've tripped yourself up in my opinion
in a couple of the little
details this was a big one up and over
the roof of the car yeah it was how else
would basic shots was fired from that
car so if like I
said she said if I shot that way that'll
be shooting in front of my cousin
face that don't make any sense if I'm
shoot over my head for one I'm not going
to be able to see anything so that's
waste of bullets not only did Maria
imply she had that tattoo on her arm she
also showed detectives how she would
have shot out of the vehicle her
description shockingly matches what the
witness had told Detectives
either way it go if I shot my hand this
way or through the pass I got something
that's going to identify and I cannot
deny these tattoos um the passenger he
he's it's like he goes like that and he
was shooting like that would you that
don't make any sense no unless you
didn't really want to hurt F cuz you Mar
prison for the rest of your life yeah
and I I'm going pull the trigger I might
as well do it all the way I'm not going
know sending a message I don't know I'd
rather send a message then go to a
prison H someone right um and send
sending a message and then the reason I
said that is because I was told from the
detective
that Marquee helmon was the shooter of
the the crime scene of that's what
happened say it again I was told by the
detective that they got witnessed saying
the shots fired out my house the car
they got witnessed saying that Mar
Hilton was a shooter or whatever of this
shooting yes oh that you're the shooter
yes and I was a
passenger and you were the have their
Witnesses are saying you were the
passenger no I'm telling you I was the
passenger oh they're saying you were the
driver no they were saying I was the
shooter shot fired at that car whatever
both of you
shot are we done here I'm not sure I
just want to tell you that
um the decisions that you
make are could very could very well
affect the rest of your life and I and I
want
you cuz I I don't know you like
detective spray does but you seem like a
very smart young lady and apparently you
had quite a future going for you and I
just want to make sure that you
understand that before we walk out of
this room the decisions that you make
are could be critical to the rest of
your life people make mistakes they
happen all the time okay this this this
guy in this truck getting shot I don't
think either one of you attended
intended to hit him him clearly you
didn't even know him unless it was some
type of road rage incident and he maybe
he did something and pulled a weapon on
you I don't know um only you would know
that but I don't think the shots any of
the shots that were fired because of how
they were out of a moving vehicle at a
moving
Target people don't think they're going
to hit it's more of a warning sending a
message and if that's the
case that's what if that's the case
that's you need to say that because
that's that can make a big difference
between what happens if we leave it like
it is or it goes forward with you saying
that and I understand but I it was no
shots fires y y'all want me to admit to
something I did not do never want you to
admit to anything you didn't do but
here's the thing you have to understand
from from our standpoint we have all
this evidence Witnesses GPS
locations video all of these things do
you guys have a gun showing that the
that it did come out of that car did you
guys have a gun I don't I don't know 99%
of the time when we convict people of
murder we don't have the gun do was gun
residue found on the top of my car I
don't know the answer
that can are we done then cuz if it was
I'm I'm ready to go
okay if you're innocent you definitely
need a lawyer if you're guilty you
absolutely need a lawyer now that the
detectives are convinced that the two
women are in fact the shooters they
decide to talk to jaria next keeping
Maria waiting where is
the out there dealing with something
else right now can I talk to him cuz
y'all pul me over y'all didn't P her
over y'all should be talking to me they
going to get to you they get I've been
here since 12 okay this don't make no
sense y'all pull me over not her y'all
need be talking to me okay they're going
to get to On's and one and no cuz y'all
talking to everybody but the person y
need to talking they've only spoke to
one person which is the old or female I
don't know who that is to you that's my
mother and y'all pulled me over y'all SL
me on the ground so y'all should be
talking to me okay they're going to get
to you ain't no they need to get to me
now I've been here since 12:00 okay I'll
related message no he already came by I
wait for him to come back this don't
make no look for him I don't know where
he's at right now who is it the male
it's two males they supposed to come
back I'm waiting for them right now
there a male and a female the only two
that here right
now it was a male that came by say he's
coming back he a come back y'all talking
to everybody but me like I said that one
ped to the mom your mom I got pulled
over I should be the first one yall talk
to I the one got pulled over I was so y
talk to me y'all doing everything but
doing y job okay give me a
sec bro they're not related to you I
know you're not I'm just can you go get
the detective I have to go get get
standing by the door give me a
second you go bathroom can you can talk
to me yeah we're coming in right now
she's got my partner going to bathroom
you got to go bathroom forehand I would
I talk to you right now okay we're we're
going to come right here and come talk
to you okay what I'm here
for we're going to sit down and explain
to you but I told you before what would
you
do so you here for a murder
investigation a what murder
investigation what do I have to do tell
you a minute but she's she's going to
bathroom we're going to come in you just
started talking I got to let me grab let
me grab my stuff I sit down with you let
me go go grab it right now coming in
after listening to jia's story of the
incident which matched what Maria told
police the detectives finally confront
Maria and ask her if she was the
shooter did you girl shoot at him
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no no I ain't de
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no got the ball to shoot at
nobody I thought you wanted to be a
snake not shooting nobody for for what
reason to protect
myself right for your
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country can I do
fingerprints or
something fingerprints for what she just
asked me I shoot
somebody
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okay why is it that uh folks are telling
us that the gunshots came from your
car that all of the gunshots and believe
me there was more more than five to
seven came from your
vehicle never owned a gun never touched
a gun never even shot a gun did you loan
the car to someone no did Dri I'm not I
can't tell you what she did no no no cuz
y'all were there I mean yeah we was
together I mean you can't cuz you were
with her right yeah so unless you're
lying about being there when the shots
were fired and she had somebody else had
the car y'all had it we had the car and
what time was this around she pick me up
around 12ish 1:00 like around from
Brandon yes I had text her and I said
cousin come get me I had to go to wash
my clothes do you know where she was
coming from no I do not cuz she had your
car all night I don't know where she was
coming from I so obviously the only
person that had that car was y'all girls
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yeah ain't nobody
shoot we work for the people who could
no longer speak okay and I'm yawning
because we have not slept since
yesterday we've been up for well over 24
hours we are
exhausted the reason you are here is
because the people we spoke to yesterday
told us the gunshots came from your car
I'm tell you and that the front pass
front seat passenger and the driver are
the
shooters and that's you
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girls that don't make a lick of sense
though I'm not shooting no pistol I
never shot no pistol it was only me and
jar in our car I don't know why they
said we was the one shooting the cars
that's what they told us everybody out
there I never owned a gun never touched
a
gun I think we've already we've been in
here with you girls but I think they've
already executed a search war on her
house oh who girls well go ahead ain't
nothing in there oh I think they already
did they probably did the two suspects
were ultimately convicted of
manslaughter with a firearm and are
currently out on bail awaiting trial and
suspects often don't realize that
detectives are trained and have a
natural knack for controlling a
conversation this next witness only
realizes that when she's too far gone
with the police the chance he could have
had another role another one did he
could he have been involved in another
way I mean another way I'm on that
I don't know what you're talking about
what you
mean this is Angel vows a suspect in the
murder of 17-year- old Britney Drexel
who went missing on April 25th 2009 from
Myrtle Beach South Carolina despite the
investigation lasting for a decade the
police were no closer to the truth that
is until April 2022 when a confidential
informant told the police about
statements that angel had made regarding
Britney's disappearance Angel is known
to be dating a 62 2-year-old registered
sex offender Raymond Moody Angel and
Raymond were brought in and questioned
about the events that occurred on the
day Britney went missing for 23 years
I've been worked in this case for 6
years um and I want to ask you a couple
of questions and I want to discuss with
you a piece of evidence okay all right
goad I want to tell you beforehand that
you got to be completely hon okay
with so you your your your answer did
did did you have any involvement in
picking up Britney D hell no mostly did
did not she was never in a vehicle was I
don't know she's in my vehicle I'm going
be honest with you cuz he had my vehicle
okay so you don't know she was never in
a vehicle with you no never a vehicle
with me no period okay no you're
absolutely absolutely positively
positive okay um like I said I want to
discuss with you a piece of evidence
that uh we haven't discussed with
anybody else all right and I'm going to
go through it kind of slowly all right
so you understand completely how
important this
uh um during the course of our
investigation we were able to
intercept
conversation between individuals and one
of these individuals was a person that
was responsible for
taking
protect okay okay you try to what I'm
saying yeah what I'm do is I'm going to
read to you a couple of quotes Okay it's
pretty much almost forba him what was
say I one of these people okay one minut
okay what don't leave me that why
because I'm going to leave cuz if you're
trying to accuse him of anything then
I'm not going to be involved it cuz I
say he didn't okay I say he did notus
I'm not yeah you are that's what
that I'm straight forward we just no I'm
straightforward J I don't think you did
and you're not going to invol a minute
to do with him yes it do it do hold on
one second just give us one piece of
information no me no I got to go before
the detective could finish his sentence
Angel rushes out the door knowing
they're accusing Raymond of being
involved in Britney's case and she
doesn't want to stand around to hear it
this however isn't the first time Angel
defended her boyfriend as she had done
exactly that with the confidential
informant when she was confronted she
told the informant that she had done it
and not Raymond then another officer
outside the interrogation room tries to
get Angel to come back by confronting
her with this information and
fortunately for us it worked angel
thinks she's only being interrogated
about Raymond's involvement but little
does she know what's coming to
her okay ER is Shing cuz my office is H
you know what so it works in here yeah
um oh no you need anything I need a
minute a minute you need anything you
need anything we good you don't need
anything
anything
okay I'm back thank you I'm back thank
you cuz I know what the conversation is
all he tell me I didn't know I just
thought something R said or something
and I missed you know I don't know but
yeah I did say what I said and I was
talking to Karen a friend of mine and I
was highly drunk we've been out all
night drinking and she kept asking me
questions about Ry and everybody that
time was accusing Ray so yeah I did say
something I did you want to tell me
about it well no it's just it's drunk I
was just wonder if I leave him alone so
I put the blame on me instead of him is
that true though
no I would never heard anybody what's
the truth then I think I don't know know
I don't know the whole truth I don't
know where he was that night I believe
you angel I really do don't I do I
believe you right now and and I'm not
and even already asked me do you think
you did it's just that we're at the can
I can I just explain one thing to you
yes this what I want you to do is it's
most important at some point in time
this to tell the truth you've been
living this this you're a person with a
conscience right yes like I and I'm not
saying what recording is what recording
I'm not acknowledging any of that type
of stuff but all we're looking for we we
need your help right the piece this
thing together I was not about to sit
what my belief is is it does depends
upon the evidence right and all we're
looking to do is find out what you know
about what happened that week I know all
I can tell you because I don't know
where he was I don't he did have my
vehicle I don't know where he was you
don't know where he I don't know where
he was I do know he called me and he
sounded up said and all this kind of
stuff he didn't say anything about why I
was said I don't know I don't know do I
think there's a possibility of course
there's a possibility I'm not stupid I
do know that but I don't know anything
to say yes he did I don't know but do I
do sometimes cuz I don't know where he
was he wouldn't tell me where he was and
he did have a couple scratches on I
don't know I don't know it's astonishing
that angel can recall the details of the
day to this perfect detail either she
remembers it because it was a very
memorable night because she knows what
happened to Britany or she is just
making stuff up on the spot and bending
it to fit what she knows happened Angel
tells the detective that Raymond had
scratches on his face but can't seem to
remember who gave them to him she then
tells them some information that starts
to incriminate her even more I don't
know I do know that he had my
vehicle and that's one of the reasons I
was meeting was to try Vehicles out that
night remember being that night that
night yes and you were you were for sure
at work I was for sure at work not all
evening I was off earlier in the day
okay and we have like okay so this is
stuff where look we have telephone
records we have licensed Plate Reader
records we have credit card records and
we have part of the story right and I
would think maybe that day so and I mean
all I can tell you is what I know for
sure I know for sure that I have my
vehicle it asked me for it to trade
vehicles and I didn't ask why you know
big deal you know a the first time I
trade vehicles so we trade vehicles you
know and then I do remember him calling
me early in the day and I was off but I
didn't feel like you know me up at that
time I told him yeah I will meet you so
that evening I did meet him down by the
the hotel by the land right yes and you
traded Vehicles you took you took I took
my vehicle and he got the r yes and he
got the red truck you took the red truck
you took the SUV where did you go where
did I go uh I think to be honest with
you I went to
town and met him back at the
apartments I going be hour or so later
he was at the apartment so I went back
to his
apartment and he had your he had your
SUV right and I had the truck you you
were had the truck at work yeah no at
the house too so we at work last no
earlier in that day I wasn't at work
that afternoon when he called me the
first time I was not okay so at 9 so
about 9:00 at night is what where were
you at 9:00 at night when oh my God I
was in his apartment you were down
at why Angel and Raymond would exchange
Vehicles like they did is a mystery to
me according to Angel Raymond had gone
to meet his friend Ernie in the middle
of the night she however can't seem to
recall what happened the rest of the
night which compared to the amount of
details she's provided already sounds a
bit suspicious the detectives then
confront angel with evidence they they
had that put both her and Raymond near
the place where Britney went missing but
Angel seemed to have an answer for that
too the story up with phone records I
know so if the phone records put you
guys in a certain place yeah I mean it
it is highly lik has to be consistent
yeah if he went somewhere in the middle
of the night then yeah and so there's
there's there's no reason your phone um
and and and maybe you might be surprised
how much I believe you in some these
things is there any reason that your
phone or you
or credit card would put you on or near
the Boulevard m that evening not at your
house that evening between
say 4: or 5 p.m. my card was in the in
the vehicle your what my card was in the
vehic yeah in the glove box does he use
your credit card uh I was you afford get
gas and stuff like that I just tell him
why you just go in and pay or whatever
what about another type of purchase that
might
I don't know the person was done I me I
don't know as I'm asking I'm just saying
that I mean
there like I said I I don't know it was
in there my card was in there which is
where I kept which you go my card now I
left my to card in there would your
phone have been in there too as well it
could have been I don't know so you're
saying your phone and your card could
have been on the boulevard that evening
but
I no I was not is there anybody that can
well my son
as when he met up with you did you get
your phone yes I did by taking Angel's
car had Raymond been trying to cover up
his tracks or is Angel lying and she had
been involved all along Angel however
sticks to her claims so the police dig
in deeper as to why she claimed she had
done it and not Raymond is Angel's love
for Raymond strong enough to make her go
to jail for something she might not be
involved in so the vehicle was that
night that Landing mhm right that would
not have been you is what you're no not
me time that you
took your phone in that vehicle and you
were never at
Delane no like an innocent explanation
for doing that no I don't think I was at
Delan I mean cuz we met back at the
apartment
yeah he didn't go with me to get
something to eat
right no I don't think it's Landing no
that's gurch Donald The Landing from the
lodes the other way the Ling yeah the
Ling that towards the marville way
McDonald's is right here in town like
right up
M but like so like obviously whoever did
this made some like mistakes that night
right well it wasn't just them there was
other girls out with us and it was just
I was drinking and it was just bombarded
you know what do you
mean it was all over town anyway down
the yeah everybody knows I'm with yes I
get harassed all the
time what he did when I didn't even know
him
so yeah I was frustrated I was drunk so
I got pissed off I was like yeah no you
didn't do it I godamn did it you know so
no and then then I don't even know what
El I I know I said tell about the girl
kid on something I don't even know what
I said you know to be honest with you
yeah I did say it was pissed off I just
want to leave him alone and leave me
alone the detectives then try appealing
to her emotional side and tell her
they're trying to eliminate her as a
suspect when in fact they're trying to
get as much information as they can as
to what really happened to Britney and
Angel seems to be cracking under
pressure as at some point she
accidentally says she believes Raymond
might have done it inent you're
referring to like that's that there's
other evidence right that some of the
stuff I was to talk to you has nothing
to do with whatever you're talking about
but um
um so you know and we're trying to piece
this thing together because the person
who did it that night um they made some
mistakes right like for example they
they they kept Britney's phone on M and
they kept their phone on MH so the bones
moved obviously from right all together
so what's the chances of somebody being
on Ocean Boulevard at 11 Street South
right at one minute and also being at
the North s which everybody in the news
knows that's what searching was done so
who would have been at those two
locations um I get it I mean I do get it
you know I just like I told him no I get
it you know I took them to the motels we
usually stayed that but he I know he did
not stay the beach that now he was not
at the beach so I know he came home I
know that right and I agree with you I
think he did so you know I I can't I
can't answer those questions you know
yeah so with my mom because I've known
so
long be so concrete and I just don't
have that I know I know hey you're stuck
in you're stuck in the competition here
like and we're asking you questions in
your volunteer information we're not
trying to we're trying to just find out
the truth and really if we can eliminate
you right I can't sit here in laa I
don't remember I'm not going to do that
I just don't remember I mean some things
I remember little B here and there I
remember you know some vehicles I didn't
remember the black vehicle and then I
didn't remember later on to about having
the keia until I remember the kids ring
I had to get you know so I mean it's a
long time I just don't
remember all that he's never said
anything to you no he doesn't like I
said he doesn't Aller he's not that kind
of person he's just not and he doesn't
talk about things in the past even I ask
him
because he says he just supp to need the
pass in the pass and get on with his
life okay I get that you know I do yeah
yeah you know I'm not I'm not straight
and narrow was a stupid when I was
younger to you
know you know and I just don't want to
talk about you know okay even people I
remember when you were 20 no I don't you
know I don't remember I don't care I
don't want remember you
know so but yeah I mean could he done it
I know we could you know I do know
that but do I want to leave that no you
don't I I believe you I believe you
telling the detectives that the suspect
is trying to leave things in the past is
not definitive but certainly suspicious
and the detectives know it despite all
their efforts Angel's story still had a
lot of holes in it but their main goal
was to find Britany and so they tell
Angel that their only investigating her
and Raymond to find the body what
happens next is absolutely incredible
for Britney the body right so that's
that is the gold that is a golden ticket
I'm sure right and and we believe like
that you might be able to help us and if
if let's just say if Ray was involved in
that and then he would obviously nowhere
left that of course so if like we were
interested in your ideas if we were ever
to try to to to find that that's really
what the goal of this case is right is
is to do that so if there's anything
that you could think of best thing to do
is put a bug in his vehicle all I can
tell you well how would that lead us to
her her
body is there any chance he could have
had another role another what did he
could he have been involved in another
way what do you mean another way I'm I'm
asking I don't know what you're talking
about what you mean another way
um could when he left could that have
had something to do with it when he left
left in the middle of the night to have
something to do with what Britney mhm I
have no idea I mean he said it was Ernie
that's all I could take you know but
could could it have of course it could
have know could you I don't know what do
you think you you would say I'm I was in
the beginning I was very nervous about
it I really was you know cuz I I didn't
know I didn't know and he won't say
anything you know so I didn't know I
still don't know so does it make me
nervous when people bring it up yes it
makes me nervous you know of course it
does because I'm living with somebody
who could have right you
know if you asked him if he was involved
would that be different yeah he TR know
I mean I can ask I can try to ask him I
mean again you know but first thing is
going to be he knows I'm here but he
thinks I'm mean for some other reason
first question is going to be did they
ask you about me that's be
first okay let me get he's real I mean
he's suspicious believe me still always
Angel so far has shown herself willing
to help with the investigation however
there's one question detectives have yet
to ask Angel want to just find Britney I
mean I do believe believe and that was
anybody have that information would be
holding a very very valuable very very
valuable card oh I know like if they
were very scared that they're in trouble
they also have significant right
leverage right right now and if that
leverage goes away if I had that
leverage and I got hit by a bus M like
that's gone like there's no chance of
getting that information so let tell you
this here what don't I know I promise
you of my children's life and I lost the
son in the car accident I know I'm sorry
I don't know where Britney is I don't I
do I believe you we want to work with
but we want to try to get there yeah I
know you do and if there's little pieces
early on that you can remember tonight
and say maybe it was just I was riding
in a car when something happened right
then okay let's work with that I just
right then we work with it together you
say but I don't want people to know this
we work with you on that maybe we can do
it this way but we need to know and and
and you might be shocked how much I
believe you really you might be shocked
how much I believe you but I also know
that there's facts in there too and uh
and we're willing to give you that time
right cuz we appreciate you coming down
here it's a lot we're dumping on
you okay but I think this is like this
is also the path to like kind of get
like you've got all this stuff in your
because you're a person with a
conscience right you're some people
don't have a conscience that's not you
you're a grandmother you have all these
things and it it you feel bad if you
have information right we're not
accusing you of something you didn't did
to do we just want to find what the
facts are and then work with you on that
and if it doesn't result in finding gr
then so be it yeah maybe we don't get
there but um but I think you could help
us get started down that path and if we
just wanted to go out there and screwed
with you we would have went out there
and screwed with you right I you know so
does that make sense for you yeah it
does it does despite keeping track of
Angel and Raymond detectives have found
no new information on them but
shockingly a week later Raymond
surprises Everyone by confessing to the
crime only person who ever told this
story to is Mama Angel never even knew
the real story she never knew anyway
when I was going down Ocean Boulevard we
going along pretty slow driving I
driving and uh pretty wild king speed
and I saw uh the DS were working walking
along the sidewalk and a smoking pot she
NOS that walked over through the door
and said something about that smells
like good
weed said yeah you want some
sure get in she hopped right in the back
without a problem and uh we smoke the be
went down the Boulevard and we're just a
small talk Angel's not really saying
anything we smoking the pot and I said
hey you want to party a little bit with
us we're can get some cocaine you know
she said sure So we started driving
we're just driving around smoking
talking and I started went right in
Georgetown went right to a
spot where we used to camp out down by
the
river and we went down there and um and
I was by myself with her
cuz uh Angel left a while serious
now St got out of
hand and I panicked and she
panicked Raymond's involved Angel being
in the car with Raymond and Britney up
until a certain point it's surprising
that angel chose to hide this
information from the detectives she had
not thought twice before throwing
Raymond under the bus but chose to Omit
information that directly involved her
unfortunately Angel was never charged
whereas Raymond got life in prison for
the murder of Brittany Drexel was Angel
really involved in the crime like
Raymond said or did she indeed have no
hand in it like she claimed we may never
know that is until Angel decides to
confess and if you thought things
couldn't get any worse is because you
don't know the incredible case of DD and
listen to more twists and turns okay
we're not going to go down different
roads and paths cuz I don't need
A and B and but and because it's over it
is the truth it's time to come to grips
with the truth in the districts of
Florida a man named Abraham Lee
Shakespeare had won a $30 Million
Lottery on November 15th 2006 the
downside to this were his greedy friends
who saw an opportunity one of them was
Doris donigan Moore also known as Dei
who also worked as Abraham's financial
adviser Dei however had a history of
several crimes and felonies on November
9th 2009 when Abraham went missing Dei
not only started Living in his Mansion
but also took hold of his money she
claimed that Abraham had signed over all
his money to her as he became tired of
people asking for his money I have lied
to him because I've been scared of this
man and they don't believe me I asked
for protection they kept asking me they
knew I was keeping something from him
they knew I kept hiding something not
telling them everything because I am
really scared they don't believe me I
asked if they could give me protection
and I tell them after last night I
didn't care once I found out that he
really died I didn't care I'd rather be
dead myself I don't care I want him in
jail all right time out time out this
man that you're supposedly scared of who
are we referring to the guy's name is
Ronald Ronald exist he even threatened
he
talk to him he threatened him cuz called
me cuz he got a threat from Ronald too
he threatened him so bad that he went at
the sheriff's department and filed a
false report to say the man was still
alive I don't care if you're F if my
sister my sister somebody killed her I
would not go file a false report and say
i' talk to her if I didn't that is my
sister I did not kill that me I wouldn't
do that I wouldn't a gun I told him that
is
true got Ronald come and seen him and
scared him so bad that he went is that
true did he file a false report did he
say that he seen NE here he never went
up to the church Department there's been
no report from anybody that he was alive
none none so he lied to me D enough of
the LI okay okay then he lied to me okay
no no one's lied to you you in fact let
me give you a hint about I've been
talking to him every day since this
thing's been going on and I know that
you've approached him about things and
you've offer to pay him money to tell
stuff okay look at me for a minute tired
of de's lies detectives want to hear the
truth from her about Abraham's murder
the lies referred to by the detective
are that Dee had paid Gregory to pretend
to be Abraham going as far as to even
call his mom saying he's okay detectives
also know that de's husband James had
dug a hole for Abraham's what they also
know is that James had thought the hole
was for one of DD's many projects
detectives then confront her with that
information hoping it would make her
tell them the truth to protect her
husband from being charged with it more
okay honestly at this point what you
need to start realizing if you love your
son like you love your son like you tell
me you do okay you need to make sure he
has at least one parent left on the
outside listen to me listen to me all
right it's time to start admitting what
you
did honestly no more games about Ronald
no more listen to No look at me look at
me no more don't say another word listen
to me no more games about Ronald no more
games about shaky Shawn none of the
stories none of the convoluted mess okay
I have a very good idea of what happened
okay okay you tell me James Moore did
dig that that thing okay I know he did
all right James Moore knows he did okay
mhm I just spent the afternoon with
James Moore okay I just left with James
Mo mhm all right we know what happened
now it's important for you to tell the
truth if you want RJ to have his father
out here with him you didn't do anything
if you want RJ the rest of your son's
life as long tell you the rest of your
son's
life is in Jeopardy for right now for
what you say
now okay you have been selfish Beyond
selfish okay you have done things that
the average person would never even
think of doing all right it's time now
to stop thinking about DD Moore it's
time to start thinking about RJ Moore
and you're you're putting your
15-year-old child in
Jeopardy and I say
that with meaning because of the fact
that you were potentially looking at
both parents I already told Clark that
James did not know what that hole was
but I really and how could he not know
because what I did was you're looking at
a five to six foot hole how could he not
know because I told him we were burying
some concrete we had buried concrete out
there on the property before if you look
up front of
that uh in front of that building
there's concrete buried there's concrete
buried right in front of the brown
building to the left the one in the
middle like the little Shack looking
thing that has some new stuck there yeah
that one there's concrete buried right
there in the property on on there's no
concrete buried where the victim was
found found I know that I know that what
happened was and I don't care what you
say as far as I know I didn't pull that
trigger when that did not work Dei came
up with a new story where a man named
Ronald was owed drug money and so he
asked her to dig the hole James had dug
the hole and left following which Ronald
had killed and buried Abraham and Dei
was afraid to come forward as she had
been scared for her life but detectives
are not believing anything she's
saying listen to
me listen to me I'm just telling you
okay we've got off on other foots here
and there left and right sometimes D the
stories you're given don't don't don't
make sense okay and if you can't
convince me then you're not going to
convince anybody okay and the story look
at me and don't hide your head look at
me and don't hide your head listen to
listen to me listen to me you talk way
too much listen to me
okay no more of the convoluted stories
about here and they were hiding in this
room and they were this listen to me
don't do this that they were hiding in
the room okay maybe they were in the
house maybe there was someone in the
house but they were there because you
had them there they weren't there
because you were scared of them Dee
listen to me listen to me and don't make
these these
dramatic and no no no no no no stop stop
stop stop stop the tears and all that
don't work why do I want him dead why
tell me cuz they got you
caught cuz they got you caught cuz who
got me caught M you got yourself caught
for what for the
murder no I mean why why would I have
him killed why would I have him killed
why would I have somebody come there and
kill him de why did what sto all his
money I did not Ste ask Cedric Cedric
says I stole it Cedric the people that
know stole I I would not kill him over
money de listen to me look at me and
don't get mad let's have a normal
conversation where I don't have to raise
my voice and we don't have to go back
and forth let's have a normal DD today
conversation okay you stole the money
okay I can prove it okay you can prove
it that tell you look at me look at me I
can prove it with paperwork okay you
never paid for the house you never paid
for the asset you drew all that
paperwork up okay you might have had him
sign it even okay and I don't know hey I
don't know the reason why I don't know
if you convinced him that everything was
C name that centoria couldn't get it I
don't know why you could how you
convinced them to give you everything
without paying for it but you did had
nothing to do with it but I did not
killed that me well then explain it with
a real explanation not some convoluted
this and that a real how James is not
involved and not your stories I told you
how he didn't know the only and most
crucial hole in dei's story was that
after Abraham had been killed she moved
into his home and went on about her days
as if nothing had happened detectives
then had Dee grasping for a way out when
they confronted her with this you didn't
live the life of somebody who was scared
D okay not only that not only that as
soon as he's dead what did you do you
move on into his house as soon as if you
were so scared of these individuals why
in the hell would you move into this
man's house and put your 15-year-old son
in there because it was safe because of
you can't get past that first gate don't
buy that oh bu give me a it de it was
safe de so somebody that you're scared
of live the life of a scared woman not
not at all
de I did not move right in you got to
look at the date I I did not move right
in I was not in there and moved in when
she come up I didn't move in until like
a month later a mon you were there you
were there I have to look at those and
that's and it what's funny here's the
other funny part of this that just
doesn't unbelievable none of this makes
sense none of your story to make sense
at
all I told you all this you don't
believe me because you haven't said the
truth yet okay you think think about
this here's what I was going to tell you
a minute ago okay to believe your story
two murderous thugs
killed but they're going to leave you a
witness
alive they didn't care about kill could
still get them more money out of the
banks look at the amounts of checks I
wrote out look at where did I spend was
there even any money look at all that
cash at that point was there even plenty
plenty and look at all that cash and
look at how many times I took cash out
so they could get more money from me mhm
that they would come up and get D you
spent all that money no I didn't yes you
did D so you're talking about when I got
out $5,000 and $110,000 cash what do I
have in my house that I have spent 5 and
10,000 most that stuff I put in my house
I bought before I even got there look at
what my Stevenson house looked like
before look at the pictures on the inter
yell at me I haven't yelled at you once
today yes you've been good I won't sorry
over the past several weeks detectives
had looked into each one of DD's stories
to say that they're tired of her lies is
an understatement if this wasn't enough
already Dei even dares saying that her
reasoning of why she hadn't murdered
Abraham was that the sight of blood
would make her nauseous God a man direct
him all the way by myself over to a hole
that's clear cross cross the way I'm a
seen it the side of freaking blood I
couldn't be a RN or an LPN I went to EMC
school and because of EMT school I
realized I didn't like blood I didn't
like being around it I worked as a CNA I
opened up my own shop so I didn't have
to and I'm going to take a body all the
way over there by myself here's the
problem there may have been somebody
else but it's not like you're saying
okay was killed the night of April 6th
he wasn't buried until April 7th okay so
you're going to tell me you see a guy
get killed in front of you in your place
with your gun then you go home with
sha okay I go home with SH you go home
to sh M that night and then you come
back the next day to two guys that are
still waiting for you with a dead body
okay you don't call the police you don't
do anything okay none of that you're
going to actually think that a jury is
going to believe that CRA oh because
hang on hold on let me let me answer cuz
they threatened to hurt my son well how
exactly would they have hurt your son
had you driven to your house dial 911
and said these people are at my house
with a dead body now guess what would
have happened they would have been
arrested that day so how could they have
hurt you DD's theatrics then start when
she starts crying in a foolish bid to
manipulate the detectives and as you
will see in a matter of seconds she can
go from a crying victim to a lawyer who
can defend
herself
you all
right H
yeah hey the fact you come over here
okay listen to me okay you come over
here we're all adults here you want to
talk okay you let detective Clark know
and all all that
um yeah I've never met you okay this is
the first meeting okay I see you know
you're emotional you're getting up and
down I just want to make sure all's on
the up and up have you been drinking
anything today or anything do you use
any type of prescriptions or narcotics
or anything like that no I'm just asking
that's part of my job I was going to
take a drug test I've I'm not asking you
take a drug test I don't do anything bad
in my life de in the last hour and 10
minutes that we've been sitting here
talking to you you know I picked up on
some physical cues and they're just
quite interesting because I I mean I
know all these concocted stories I've
watched your interview from Monday night
with Detective Carter I mean Clark I'm
sorry videotaped over there they might
be I thought that was against the law
without me now it's not against the law
we are law enforcement oh okay okay but
I've picked I I've noticed something
it's just interesting it's it's when you
start
to kind of merge into this new concocted
story or another Rabbit Hole as I like
to refer to you have just this you know
discern look on your on your face in
your eyes I mean it's just just the
serious look and then when the truth
hits out of detective Wallace's mouth
from his long-term investigation and
he's putting to you poignant facts that
are true and you know they're true your
eyes just shut and your wheels are just
turning in your head and you're thinking
to yourself and you're saying damn it if
he ain't right no yes yes I'm thinking
that that the money stuff he talked
about that no you want the money to be
the motive and that's not no what I'm
telling you is the money is the motive
the money Dei listen to
me when you put it in front of a jury
the jury is going to jury will convict
me and you will convict an innocent
person and then you know what life will
not exist that I know of because I
thought that we lived in society that
people wanted
start okay the truth is you had
something to do with it and now it's
time for you to tell the truth about
what happened I'm telling you the truth
and you don't want to listen you don't
care no you don't you don't want the
truth the detectives then bring up dei's
greed with Abraham's money explaining
that she and her husband would be jailed
leaving their 15-year-old son alone in
order to provoke some sympathy for her
son and fess up but de is no ordinary
person I have an innocent man buried on
my property rotting can I keep my stuff
no I'm saying that I did not do it and
he was saying I'm going to lose
everything and why should I lose
everything when I didn't kill the man
I I'll tell you the truth can I keep my
stuff but no the money is not the motive
but no there's a guy that I don't know
his name that I called this guy Ronald
that I was going to pay another guy to
be Ronald that gets up and takes money
off the back porch
GD come on come on this isn't the world
we live in and you know it there's that
nobody lives in that world nobody okay
this is not a book this is not a madeup
story this is a real life and it's
Lakeland Florida and it didn't happen
yeah and it's real life and this did
happen care real life this did happen
real life real life I was really scared
real life you're going to go to prison
James is going to go to prison and RJ is
going to be raised by somebody else that
is not fair to James James did not then
you know what you're right it's not fair
so tell the truth and do something Fair
why are you BL you're telling me only if
I tell you what you want to hear and the
story you want to hear then Jam if you
tell me the truth you don't want to hear
a story we don't want to hear something
that you think we want to hear we want
to hear the truth and right now you are
mocking two detectives with this
fabricated [ __ ] is what you're doing and
if you thought Dei would give in after
being confronted well you are in for a
treat when you see how she responds to
more allegations it was going to leave
the dead body on your property
underneath your slab you knew it and you
did everything you could a to try and
make it look like he was alive and
somewhere else and then B to try and
make it look like somebody else did it
you were freaking going to pay a man to
say he killed him you were going to pay
an undercover officer
$5,000 to say that he killed that man
you were going to have Greg hey you were
going to have Greg turn around and dig
up the man's rotted body you gave Greg
the gun then you left that trailer with
supplies for a riding Corp so that he
could have a proper burial cuz once I
found out he was really there I wanted
him you knew he was there since April
you had your husband drink drink the
coal for crying you knew where he was at
are you kidding me you calculated every
detail of this he was there my you
position that white Ford truck with a
trailer a nice new trailer with G steel
tub Greg tell me do that bleach LOL all
that CRA hang on a minute and we have
you on store video at several locations
buying all this sh didn't Greg tell me
to do that read listen to the thing
listen to the paper it's DD more on the
video purchasing this stuff yeah come on
go ahead arrest me and I will sit in
jail for something I didn't do for the
rest of your life I don't have a choice
it all points to me you don't want to
believe you would you like an ad joining
cell with James James does not deserve I
don't think he'd want to be anywhere
near you James does not deserve that
that's what he you're right you're right
he doesn't deserve to be next to you
you're right I I'll I'll make sure it's
a different jail cuz I don't want to
next he does not deserve that he nothing
but you're trying to Blackmail me by
telling me he's going to go to jail iil
tell you there's no black mail well then
the story I told you then tell me the
truth I have I don't know the guy's name
oh my God so this ruthless killer kills
and leaves you alive a witness you alive
the detectives have noticed Dei being
protective about her husband going to
jail and as a last resort they try to
trick Dei by making a phone call to make
her think they're about to arrest her
husband detectives of course aren't
allowed to make threats to the suspect
that involve physical harm or denial of
food and water they are however allowed
to make legal threats regarding family
members being charged for being involved
in a crime what happens next is
absolutely
incredible hey yeah go on over the
houses on fores road and go ahead and
and that's not fair don't do that it's
the dude that looks like James okay I'll
talk don't go ahead go ahead hang on a
minute hang on a minute are you going to
talk or not yes all right hold off but I
want you I want I want you I want you to
there off of Jerry Smith and Trapnell
and wait for my next
call do you think we're freaking playing
games with you DD what do you want me to
say to not hit the truth the truth don't
play this freaking game anymore you look
me straight in the eye and decide your
fate right here right now because I got
no quals with locking up your husband
with your ass and putting your son in
protective custody and until we can sort
out who can be his Guardian do you
understand me yes I not playing any more
freaking games with you de tell me the
truth about what happened to and who is
involved with you before we go to your
husband ex-husband's house and lock his
ass up and RJ is there right now do you
think I do you think I'm playing
games no I don't sit back and talk to me
that's not fair it is fair it's reality
it's called solving crimes Dee it is law
enforcement I really don't know the
guy's name I really don't I don't
believe that for one
second I would not ever shoot another
human being that is really sick very
sick very very sick a valuable witness
the truth on there n a valuable witness
that's it that's it I'm done sit down
sit down sit down now that's black maale
that's blackmail that's why can't I go
to jail and take the chares why can't I
take the charges just say I did it's
going right now no just say I did is
going
first so you tell me what lie you want
me to tell you and then James can stay
there because that's not fair to him he
did not know anything he is innocent in
all of this and so you're going to put
an innocent in jail you are not you are
not you want me to admit that I
forcefully I paid some crazy man to kill
that is not true I wouldn't pay for a
man to get killed and it seems our
killer has finally accepted defeat at
last most selfish woman I've ever seen
in my life no I do care I who do you
care about when you look in the mirror I
care about me and that's it no I don't
I'm going to go in prison for something
I didn't even do and sit on a mattress
with no
pillow P pillows in prison yeah they
give you pillows oh I
heard pillows in blanket eats all that
stuff you get Linens in prison oh yeah
three meals I don't think they're jail
no jail you have pillows too everybody
told me you didn't get a pillow fenberg
has great pillows Orient Road has great
pillows oh they told me you didn't in
fact the laundry the laundry room is
right over here yeah I see it every
morning when I come to work they're out
there cleaning the sheets and and dry oh
yeah you get a job too they can give you
a work while you're there you can clean
you can wash or you can cook I mean do
that for the rest of your life
that's fine I guess I'm going to have to
I don't have a you know how to cook I
mean do you have like culinary skills
and
stuff um yeah I know how to cook can you
cook for 3,000 that could be that could
be valuable over there yeah I can do
that maybe you can do that you can like
stir the beans andig care of the Bon
sandwiches and stuff yeah the fact that
she was so dramatic about not getting
pillows and then just admitted
everything when she realized she'd have
pillows in prison is crazy after this
interrogation the detectives had enough
proof and Dei was finally charged with
first-degree murder she was found guilty
and sentenced to life in prison without
parole she is now where she deserves to
be and a criminal who is dumb and a
terrible liar is a dangerous combo such
as this next suspect who ended up
telling the whole truth after
incriminating himself in June 2019
68-year-old Mary K wolfarth who owned an
antique store was reported missing after
she failed to show up to open her shop
reped a friend missing earlier today and
I think we have I need to F to pay the
work or whatever for a missing person
and who's
missing uh Mary K wolf okay when was the
last time you saw her uh 1 o00 yesterday
saw at an auction and then we were we
were supposed to meet again today at
3:00 oh and okay she didn't show up and
so I went to her house and her mail and
her and her newspaper were on the bo her
neighbor said Jen come home last night
which is like totally out of character
okay and she has two cats here that I
have the pizza okay a missing person's
report was soon filed and an employee of
a storage facility recognized Mary and
alerted police when an unknown
individual accessed her storage locker
to which he had no rights okay so that's
her van yes sir can we just start the
video and just just watch it mind if I
take a seat no got all right rather look
at you this way than
um the footage begins with Mary
unloading antiques into her storage unit
and then she leaves to go to the office
while she's gone the owner of the orange
truck walks into her storage unit and
waits for her to return when Mary enters
her storage the door is closed behind
her after several minutes only the man
exits the building he then cleans up
Mary's belongings and drives her vehicle
away when he returns he goes back into
her storage and comes out with two large
trash cans and he puts them into his own
storage police soon identified the
suspect as 35-year-old Michael Olen who
had previously been arrested on
unrelated charges the detectives Place
Michael in an interrogation room but
don't inform him what he's being
questioned for as they want him to
believe he's in trouble for the breaking
and entering
charges oh
this
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oh
dude this is so stupid breaking there AR
you kidding me I can't believe they
calling me that
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Senor these things going
fall the pants are going to fall off I
lost so much damn
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weight
oh [ __ ] now I got to pissed
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[ __ ] L I got to take a week in the worst
way about to piss my
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pants hold it hold
it hey
what's I got to take a week what's the
status the suspect's actions as gross as
they may be hint that he may have been
checking himself subtly for any
scratches left behind by the victim not
wanting to scare Michael off into asking
for a lawyer the detectives ask him
about his breaking and entering charges
pretending that those aren't a big deal
their freaking bedroom door open so they
get start getting all the [ __ ] out of
there so they asked me to help them get
all out of the basement and out of the
out of the bedroom what was you supposed
to get out of the days for uh all the
ANS has clothes all the freaking uh the
bed that was down there was cluttering
up everything they tried to have six
people living in that little place
that's a the hazard you can't do that
okay and my dad lives right next door
he's like he can't he hates that okay so
just so I understand it you were they
yelled out to Linda to you in the
morning that was at like 8:30 this
morning yeah then I was I was there I
don't what neighbor called because I
mean the neighbor see me doing mulch I I
don't know which it do even matter but
dude I was doing mulch for him I was and
that wasn't like I was charging them for
anything I went and got him a pack of
cigarettes can you go get cigarettes
Mike for us of course I did yeah I've
been I've been staying there since
February of 18 with my dad after I moved
out of my that I the TPO with my
ex-girlfriend and now I got down [ __ ]
getting in trouble for hell were living
in that house that where your dad lives
to yes yes yes that's where my address
is that's on my license to be honest
with you I didn't pull it up okay um but
yeah I know but I wasn't for certain if
that was if you were living with
somebody else no it was not this is so
stupid okay and
then and then we when we came in we
arrived and you were in the basement at
that time yeah I was getting freaking
stuff out of the basement and and all of
a sudden I heard is there anybody here
and I was like that and I was like and
then I came
out I wasn't ducking down like the one
off said I was freaking trying to get
some stuff clean for him and why why
wouldn't they lie to me why why would
they say that I was trying to steal
stuff God I've lived there
for I don't know if they actually said
you were trying to steal something what
am I doing here well because they said
that you they didn't know that you were
in a house oh my god do you see how
intoxicated she was they drink all day
every day they drink a liter of Cam
choco Dam near every day that's why Bob
has the the he has a blood alcohol
monitor on his anle I thought it was
house arrest at first and I said oh my
gosh what are you doing they didn't
recognize me when I came back cuz I've
uh been staying with my mom a little bit
here and there me and my dad Bute heads
I'm not living there full on with my dad
but I will go down every once in a while
do some laundry even when I need to get
away from my mother mother's a bear but
Bob didn't even recognize me when today
or yester uh yesterday no yesterday okay
yeah Bob didn't recognize me he thought
I was Josh sh your head yes exactly if
you get my phone I can show you all the
videos that yeah I have a Bob and Rose
and how Michael acts nervous when the
police mention his breaking and entering
record he allegedly used to live in the
same place he was accused of breaking
into and the only reason police were
called was because the homeowner had
mistaken him for someone else the
detectives hint that Michael is in
trouble for something bigger when they
ask him about his shaven head for which
Michael has a quick answer to uh like
probably 3 or 4 days ago I was just
being goofy and just shaving around my
cousin's coming in from town he's a
Marine I want to do something funny for
him and hey I've never shaved my head
before really I mean a couple times but
not like shaved it shave it right feels
kind of good I kind of like it a little
cooler in the summer right yeah exactly
that's I mean and literally I think so I
went to a I played War House baseball
with a buddy of mine U Back I think I
played from when I was 27 till about 30
anyway from the Thurman Monson Stadium I
didn't have gel and I didn't have my hat
so I was going like this was my face I
was like I'm getting rid of it so today
you were
mulching throughout the thing there okay
and then um is that pretty much all you
were doing today around the house yes
exactly um did you ever leave well yeah
of course I left to go get the mulch and
then I went up uh where else did I go
went to get them pack of cigarettes went
to the liquor store got something to
drink I was going to go golf I had golf
league tonight okay I
got and then uh you went to the liquor
store for them no for me by myself
myself Bob's not I guess Bob's not
allowed to drink anymore he's got the
thing okay cuz I saw him leave the house
but you know if it was an angle bracelet
it would have gone off it's a blood
alcohol content monitor I imagine okay
so then you use that trailer that's in
the back no uh my dad okay so I did go
another place today my dad uh called me
up he said he needed he forgot the
Finish gun um and I was down there
mulching it's a orange pass load you
know we got tools right inside the place
there so I had to drive out the bath
give him that and I came back okay yeah
it was um what's the name the address I
don't know the actual number seven
something but it's on cry Road off Ira
out there in bath okay they're saying
obviously you know I one thing I hate in
this world was a thief I'm not I'm not a
thief I was helping them out as I've
always done but i' I've come when I when
I was living there on the regular I'd
come around the corner there and I
almost would run Bob over he'd be face
down and the freaking grab it from being
too drunk had to pick him up and take
him back inside okay the detectives
leave the room leaving Michael to
complain about his handcuffs but when
they return they have a sergeant join
them Michael's reaction to seeing the
sergeant is incomparable he realizes
that this is more than just a simple
misunderstanding man come on you please
take off I
don't all right Mike
man this is Sergeant Dan
marks all this over as a suspected be is
rarded try to find a
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different
[ __ ] that one's a lot better Michael
right yeah all right hey Michael how you
doing
man so I read your your Miranda Rights
you understand those uh yes okay keeping
those rights in Minds we like to talk to
you about another issue um so
today uh you talked to you told
detective BR that uh you were mulching
uh out there at the centry yeah yeah
yeah went to a find us M where I got the
M from where was that at C
Road okay
um did you
uh well we know we met your dad today
and uh he was saying that uh you met my
dad yeah yeah did you talk to your dad
on the phone today at all uh yeah a
couple times yeah and uh you you ran did
you run out of gas yeah I ran out of
I've been running out of gas a lot
lately been a little bit broken yeah so
okay uh like he asked what what you guys
talk about who your dead uh like you
said he called me up earlier to go get a
I had to bring up the pass Lo finish gun
and uh then that was about it
so did you say that uh we wanted to talk
to you we the AC place no not at
all I think he text you called you on
the phone I mean I got a couple calls
but I mean I didn't uh that was after I
went on to drop the tool off I didn't
talk to him I was busy doing ultion down
there come that's where he Liv the icing
on the cake is that Michael's father is
the owner of the storage unit where
Mary's body had been found he had helped
the police in finding his son by showing
the officers text messages he and
Michael exchanged in these text messages
Michael's father urges Michael to turn
himself in up there uh up North Hill
yeah um well it's not it's your dad it's
my dad yeah any mind who has access to
it uh me and my dad yeah and then
there's uh anyone else uh no but I mean
you I don't know if you know about theft
that was up there not that long ago this
guy used to get into all the units stole
all typ over Tim Boler I don't know if
you know that
name um yeah me and my dad are only ones
that had the keys for it but yeah so
that's okay when was the last time you
were there uh I was up
there either yes this morning or
yesterday morning I can't remember which
actually day
was were you getting something out or no
I just was getting ready um the lady
lives next door in the brick house she
gave me uh she help she had me help her
move out this big stereo thing I was
going to spray paint it and sell it on
uh what do you call it Facebook cell or
whatever and so now are you aware that
uh the that storage area they've got all
kinds of cameras Oh yeah yeah because of
the thefts yeah yeah
okay uh your dad said sometimes you
sleep down there uh only the the only
reason I slept in there is because I so
tired
from like if this represents the floor
of the unit you couldn't even walk in it
as a couple weeks ago so I was cleaning
it out for I'm trying to get it
functional again but yeah I crashed up
there one night just cuz I fell asleep
and I was like I so tired then sometimes
I go stay next door with Beverly you see
uh lets me go in there who's bever uh
the uh there's a brick house right next
door to the shop and um that's the guy
actually his mother who who was stealing
from all the SW units yeah but she she
evicted him he hasn't been around in a
while so thank God I think I have okay
so we actually uh like we said we met
your dad we met your dad at the up there
at the storage unit and uh we both were
standing next to him when he was trying
to call you uh and uh he said uh that
that uh you had gotten a ride by from
somebody that they were bringing you up
to the storage unit that's what my dad
said
yeah what kind of vehicle do you drive
uh orange dodgea any other vehicles no
just that
one um have you driven any other car in
the last say week no no I
no no Michael's body shows multiple
signs indicating that he's lying he is
constantly itching playing with parts of
his body and rocking back back and forth
it seems as though his guilt is
surfacing and he's nervous about getting
caught when was the last time you were
up at the store J well like I said
yesterday this morning yesterday morning
can't remember what day it was were you
up there
Monday what's today today is Wednesday
uh Monday two days ago I've been up
there sporadically throughout the last
week I don't know exactly which day but
what's day Wednesday no I don't think it
was with there Monday no it was it okay
were you with anybody when you were up
there no no I mean I just pretty much R
right solo I mean dick come you know
Richard Les guy owns the place comes
back every once a while to hang out talk
yeah do you uh do you ever see anybody
else that has storage unit up there talk
to anybody oh well there's a couple old
alimer to my right I think Dad's a uh
think Dad or his son is Black Keys U you
know the group yeah and then uh
sometimes I see the people across from
us they hoarders they got all types of
oh my gosh it's to the brink I thought
our shop was bad and then Jake
Lesley when was the last time you saw
that uh I don't know 3 4 days ago
something like that 5 days I I literally
my days have been running together so
much as I've been freaking going crazy
she
look uh yeah that's um yeah that's Dave
and C Kine Kathleen Katie Katie that's
same name right yeah I think so yeah who
[ __ ] uh she has she has a sword unit up
there I think with her I thought it was
her husband Dave or something like that
met which which unit uh I don't know
which what the letter is I have no
idea across from you oh uh across from
me on the in the middle building okay
yeah when was the last time you saw
her uh I probably Saturday Sunday
something like that I was up there doing
some stuff around
it's interesting to watch Michael fall
apart from anxiety and the fear of being
caught but he doesn't seem to be the
smartest individual in the world he
claims to know where the cameras are in
the storage unit yet murdered a woman in
broad daylight he then tries to lie his
way out of the situation but can't keep
his story straight because of his
nervousness why am I even being this
well so you guys were dating no we're
not dating I'm my gosh who said that I
forget who it was though oh my God
that's ridiculous man well mik there
video shows that you were talking to her
Monday so it was yeah I told you my days
were
all and both of your storage units were
open you guys you were going in and out
both
units were you in her unit was I was I
in her unit uh no just right outside the
door I mean I might have ventured in
there to look at a couple stuff which
she was right there so
yeah okay uh have you ever been in her
unit not like not before that no okay
but you Monday did not go in the just
Tony I mean I really don't know I was
standing there I was talking to she
cleaned out my uh uh what do you call it
chop back and I just I just I'm bad on
the timeline of the days I really don't
know so okay uh but I've never was
actually like I mean maybe right inside
the door but all the way in the back no
I've never been there you can't even
there's a freaking wall of stuff you
can't get through there and she has been
in your your unit uh just uh she brought
me she dusted off the shot back and you
know I I wanted her to see cuz everyone
that drove by saw how disgusting it was
I was like hey look look actually doing
a lot better yeah good so would her DNA
be in your storage unit no not at all
not at all no why would her DNA well the
reason I think we're asking about her
because the
family made a report they haven't seen
her in a couple
days so were trying to trying to find
her DNA why no she was if anything she
sat right inside my unit and gave me the
and she blew off the filter for my shop
back that I was
using this is ridiculous okay so on
Monday her sister got a phone call or
actually a message left on her machine
saying Katie was telling her she has
this handyman named Jim wson oh yeah her
sister
yeah I was going to do a little road to
work trip for her
but having that
conversation oh I don't know if it was I
mean like I said it could have been
Monday what just
Wednesday I sometimes I'll go like I'll
say hey uh you about 7 minutes or so and
that was like it was like 7 minutes ago
it was like a week ago that's my
timeline gets up every once in a while
and people are like dude the detective
then asks if Michael uses any drug that
could possibly account for his current
behavior sorry let me ask you something
that's totally un and it doesn't matter
you uh you you hooked on anything got
using I want read every once in a while
but it gives me gives me a little bit of
Upp the energy nothing else nothing
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else
um so you so you saw her Monday or set
or sometime the last couple days last
couple days yeah yeah cuz she she's been
missing for a couple days so we've been
trying to find her uh do you have any
idea where she might be did she talk
about where she was going no idea she
did not say where she was going no
no again there's video and one was this
was Monday it shows you moving her
van no
yeah no I wasn't doing your yeah I mean
video doesn't
lie can you explain that no I
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can't should you moving the video I mean
moving the
van all right you drove out drinking
from an empty water bottle is a classic
sign of anxiety anxiety makes a person
sweaty which in turn makes them want to
consume more water to stay hydrated
blood her blood her unit do you have any
cuss for when you
I've got Cuts all the time from working
construction man all the time okay is
that is that blood going to be yours oh
yeah this oh this is I'm I'm I'm a
picker so sometimes I'll get in there
I'll scratch my nose but again the blood
that we found in h you oh is it going be
my blood no no no how would that be my
blood I didn't cut myself over there so
no but I do I mean if I could have shed
something me I mean cuz I always do have
like I mean look I've got I've got tons
of cuts all over always working
construction dude that's what I do
Michael uh I mean we've been working on
this for a couple
hours um I we got pretty far along in
the
investigation there's going to be a time
when there's going to be a narrative
given of what happened okay so
usually I I tell people that youan you
want to be in control of the narrative
you don't want me to give the narrative
myself yeah uh we find we find
evidence uh you know different things U
hair blood different
objects and you know we could kind of
piece together what
happened so I mean sometimes sometimes
people [ __ ] up and you know they do
something they get themselves in a
predicament they get worried uh I mean
something happened on an accident they
get scared uh they try to cover it up
they don't want to you know try to
explain it
well now's the time to explain what
happened that day well was it
Monday Tuesday Sunday I there's nothing
to explain no to exp well we found blood
in your unit a lot of
blood and
here do you want to explain that I mean
I got myself on some glass and what
about
hair was that long you been keeping your
hair like that literally like 2 three
days literally like two three days well
you said uh I think you said it was
about 3 or 4 days ago earlier well 3 4
days 2 3 days I like I said I don't know
how my timel is man it sucks we found
lots of blood in your storage unit lots
of blood we
found
sticks instruments with a lot of blood
God I don't
way like Sergeant Works someone's or
something ridiculous no you just said
that the only two people that get have
access to your unit but tell me like if
you ever look up in the S at that fing
Tim he's trying I bet he's tring back no
I don't think that's the one we have
video of you talking to K well yeah I've
talked to Kat before talking to her on
Monday driving her van
away her keys her keys were found in
your dad's basement
today no how did Tim get out there and
plant
that that's that's not the narrative you
want to try to deal with that's that's
not going to work for you bud you can
just tell he is one of those guys
destined to be locked up for life and
isn't necessarily too concerned about it
it's where he belongs and even he knows
it when confronted with Mary's murder
Michael remains quiet formulating yet
another lie to get him out of the
situation after contemplating for a
while Michael finally decides to come
clean we have uh the sticks yeah
yeah tell us what happened
Michael I mean it's probably going to
help you I mean you can't you can't feel
good holding this
in no not really just tell us what
happened I snapped man I snapped I just
something came over me I don't know what
what Mak you my ex-girlfriend dude she
it was a downfall it's not like it's not
she want to hold a gun to me might have
an exra but she made me a different
person because of her toxic narcissistic
race I was mentally verbally emotionally
abused I don't know just sna and ktie
said something about my [ __ ] ex I
don't
know you know what well yeah s tell us
what
happened you know what Happ I think
you're just getting me your want to say
it that's why I told you this is your
narrative this is your chance to say for
your
story yeah I just are you just a cold
blooded homicidal maniac not not at all
was Heat of the Moment the moment I
could thing you I
snapped so take us through it man I'm
went over there I hit her on the head
that was it what you h on head
something like a metal pipe a walking
stick something in there wooden yeah was
actually
a uh piece of I don't even see that yet
a piece of
the fireplace stick think one it was
broken I don't know what I just I just
saw grabbed it and I just snapped in her
her unit
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or I just I know try to get rid of the
evidence but I see what I didn't
do CER where's the
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van no idea I parked it in the hood
somewhere how the key end up down your
dance I took the key off there and I was
going to get rid of I was going to wipe
them off
it was dumb I shouldn't have never done
it obviously going to jail for the rest
of my life but it's sna man I've been so
emotionally and verly abused you have no
idea I got a mother that you know
staying with I'm 35 years
old have no
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idea now that Michael has confessed it
seems a weight has been lifted off his
shoulder as he seems more calmer and
settles into a comfortable position
Where Do We Go From
Here well I mean you know you're going
to get arrested you get a rank you get a
bond get an attorney yeah I actually
could use Mark boy was my attorney for
the TP thing maybe represent well the
only certain attorneys can represent oh
yeah so I mean in the long way you could
sit there and say hey I mean I came off
The Bu story and you can look at the
judge and ask for some you could ask the
family person for doing this and the
judge to give you a little bit of mercy
and yeah just I mean I SP the rest of my
life pron I don't want to die cuz I
can't do good works I have been a good
person my whole life I just I sned
because people have been rid my you were
you were talking to her what' she say
that reminded you of your girlfriend she
were kind of talking about her a little
bit and she said maybe maybe you did
this to her whatever so she was blaming
you
and I never did think of that exg
girlfriend of mine I treated like a
[ __ ] Queen so you said you just saw
something laying
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there anything else you can think
of um that you want to know I mean I'm
sorry you have any other questions I
mean you can ask me but not that I can
think of I think we're pretty much you
got your confession I got a confession
didn't
well like I told you I think we knew
enough it's just up to you for your
nille well I just I'm I'm s I'm sorry I
should have never done it I just some
reason I
snaped and
uh like you said El was you getting it
off your chest does it make you look
like a cold and children I'm not I'm not
I mean this is one stupid thing that
I'll never be able to live down
but I have never seen someone so
directly murder another person and
dispose of their body so clearly on
camera incredibly dumb but incredibly
chilling Michael was finally charged
with first-degree murder and sentenced
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