He came out and he's saying that he was
going to kill me.
>> Hey, get out. Get out. Get over here.
Get over here. Get over here. Get over
here.
>> I didn't want him to die. I just wanted
him
to leave me and my kid alone and not
take my kid from me.
>> I told him
if you think your ex-wife, you got
another thing coming.
This is Britney Feel, a killer wife in
the middle of one of the most twisted
love triangles police have ever seen. On
June 6th, 2022, police receive a call
about a man who's been stabbed in an
Elco County home. Officers have no idea
they're about to get pulled into a case
of fatal attraction with a shocking
fatherson love triangle.
>> You never should have went this far.
>> Police arrive at the scene.
>> What's her name?
>> Britney. Is the one next door?
>> Hey, hold up.
That one. The blue trailer.
>> No, this one right next door.
>> There's a back door open and a front
door open. We can hear some commotion.
Sorry.
>> Hey, police department.
>> What's going on?
>> He He came in. He's saying that he was
going to kill me.
>> Hey, get out. Get out. Get over here.
Get away from him. GET OVER HERE. GET
OVER HERE.
>> GET OVER HERE RIGHT NOW.
>> GET AWAY FROM ME.
>> WHO ELSE IS IN THE TRAILER? Nobody got
one stabbed in the chest.
>> Can we put your hands behind your back?
>> Where's the knife? Where's the knife?
>> Put your hands behind your back.
>> He said he was going to stab me and I
knew.
>> Can you hear me?
>> HE RAN INTO IT.
>> Where's the knife?
>> WHERE'S THE KNIFE?
>> IT'S INSIDE.
>> I think other units get here. Code
three. He came at her with and said,
"Get away from me." And then he ran into
the knife.
>> Come out here. Come out here. Come out
here. Come out here. Come out here.
>> Are you okay? Please.
>> Hey, can you hear me? What's your name?
>> Put him in the recovery position.
>> No. Please call the ambulance. Please
call the ambulance.
>> You're good. Hey, stand up. Stand up.
Stand up. I need to make sure you don't
have any weapons on you.
>> Yeah. No, that's fine. I don't I don't
have anything on me.
I was I was trying to help him. I'm
fine. I tried. He He He threatened me
and I didn't know what to do.
Are you
>> Get out. Stay with her. Stay with her.
>> All right. Pull out on my radio. We need
to clear the house.
>> Sit down. Sit down. We have an ambulance
coming. Sit down.
>> I'm sorry. He had drugs. He said he was
going to kill me because me and him got
into an argument about our daughter and
and I told him.
>> Is there anyone else inside?
>> No.
>> No.
>> Ahab, my daughter next door.
>> That's my exhusband.
That's my ex-husband.
>> He said that he was going to kill me
because me and him got into an argument
about him dating a new girlfriend, me
dating a new boyfriend. He was like, I
don't want him [ __ ] meeting him.
>> And I was like,
>> did you stop him?
>> Yes. Cuz he came running at me and I
didn't know what to do.
I didn't know what to do. I'm sorry.
Hey, I'm quick clearing the house and
then we'll get medical in here.
>> Police department.
Come on now with your hands up.
Police department.
Police department.
>> House is clear. Go for medical.
>> Are you hurt?
>> I didn't mean to.
>> Are you hurt?
>> No.
No, I just he came after me and I held
the knife up and he ran into me and I I
thought I stabbed him only in the
stomach and and he's like he was holding
his chest and he's like you stabbed me
and I was like you you was coming at me
you
>> so you're not hurt anywhere.
>> No, sorry.
>> No, sorry I'm not.
>> Did he hurt that hurt you at all? No, he
just threatened to kill me.
Sir, is there an ambulance on the way?
>> Yeah, it's coming up right now.
>> Here, hold up.
>> It was like a a big kitchen knife. I
didn't know. I just grabbed something
and I held it up and he was coming at me
and we was right there at the door and
and he was like, "I'm going to kill you
because you was sitting there trying to
take my kid to see some other man."
I didn't I didn't last time me and him
texted was two days ago.
I wasn't trying to.
>> Here, pull him down. Start CPR. Watch
out. Watch out. Pull down.
down now.
Please,
please.
>> Oh, he was conscious talking.
>> No, no, I'm not talking. He just kind of
conscious.
>> Okay, let's just three rounds. See where
that wound is. Right there. Right above
his where that sock is.
I'll have you guys do something.
>> Yep.
>> What's your name?
>> I'm sorry.
>> What's your name?
>> Britney Fagel.
>> Britney.
>> Britney.
>> That's your first name.
>> B R I
>> Okay.
>> B R I T
A N Y.
>> Okay.
>> F I G I E.
>> What's his name?
>> His name is Timothy Beagle. His
last name is spelled the same as mine.
>> What's up?
>> Should we try to do her a statement?
>> No. No. Don't interview at all
>> cuz it's going to be a call out for
detectives.
>> Hey, don't don't read Miranda. Don't ask
any questions.
>> Ma'am, are you hurt?
>> No.
>> No. Nothing like that.
>> Hey, I'm going to stand you up and we're
going to go back to my car over here,
okay? So you don't see all this. Uncross
your feet. Ready? Stand up.
>> Come back over to my car. No.
>> No. It's not okay.
It's not okay.
>> Passenger driver.
>> Have a seat right here.
Officers question Britney about where
her daughter has gone.
>> My uncle Mike and
>> was she okay? Wait one second. She's not
inside, right?
>> She She was when it happened.
>> She was when it happened. Who came and
got her?
>> And Wanda and and Uncle Mike.
>> So she's in there with them?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
Nobody else is supposed to be inside the
house. No,
>> that's why I don't want to ask you
anything more.
>> Is he okay?
>> Not right now. No.
>> Oh, medical's with him. Okay.
Got
>> tape. Yep. I got tape and log.
>> What's that?
>> Uh, this is about to become a crime
scene. So, wherever you're going, you
may not be able to get back for a while.
>> What's that?
>> We can just go back.
>> Yeah. All right. go inside right now.
>> Don't worry about it, ma'am. The baby's
fine. Thank you.
>> That's fine. I'm just going to eat your
>> dogs.
>> No, I'm not going to do anything. The
dog's okay. The child's okay with you in
there for now.
>> Okay. Just hang tight. Okay.
>> You in the home, sir?
>> Oh,
>> were you in the home?
>> No, I wasn't.
>> No. How What's your involvement here?
>> That is my nephew.
>> That is your nephew. Where do you live?
>> I live right here. So, she was inside
the residence with her daughter.
Daughter's currently inside this
residence with him. I quicked the house.
Nobody else was inside.
>> Yeah. I wasn't in the home. She came
over here. We actually called 911.
>> Okay.
>> So, um
>> Can I get a statement from you?
>> Absolutely.
>> Can you come over to my car?
>> Sure.
>> I got the name.
>> Okay. Can we come out here?
>> Is the officer inside?
>> No.
>> There's nobody.
>> There's no
>> Oh, we're next door. Yes.
>> So your this is your home?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Stay here. I'll be right with you guys.
>> Is that your child in common?
>> You guys have that daughter together?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> How long have you guys been together?
>> We were together for almost seven years.
>> Seven years. Okay.
>> Almost seven years. We just recently got
divorced
and it was only because he was drinking
a lot.
>> I was
I was by myself, but I didn't know what
to do. So I file for divorce
and I just
tonight he threatened to take my kid
away from me with his his new
girlfriend.
And I was like, "No, you're not. I'm
coming to get my kid." And I was going
to come get my kid and leave. And me and
him got into a fight and he said, "I'm
going to kill you. I don't care if it
comes to my kid or not.
And I held up a big like the butcher
knife and he came running at me and I
just I just kind of
I didn't mean to and I thought I got him
in the stomach.
I didn't want him to die. I just wanted
him
to leave me and my kid alone and not
take my kid from me.
I'm sorry,
>> but can I please sit down?
>> Yeah, you sit down. You want to sit down
right here?
>> Wherever you want. Where you want? Do
you want to sit on that little box right
there?
>> It's okay.
>> I just want to make
He's not okay. He's left yet.
Soing stupid.
>> While I was standing here, she
spontaneously uttered the further break.
>> Paramedics do everything they can to
save Timothy's life. since the second
epi. Yes.
>> Okay. Check.
>> Stop.
>> Yeah.
I got it.
>> What's up? Can you guys go back inside?
>> Come on. Thank you.
>> What's that?
>> We We were doing our investigation. Can
you please go back inside? Thank you.
>> Hey, we're going to come take a seat in
my car. Okay. I'm sorry.
>> We're going to go sit in my car.
>> You ready? I'll put three. 1 2 3 up.
>> Once again, you don't have anything on
you, right?
>> No. Sorry.
>> It's okay if I pat you down?
>> Yeah. That was perfectly fine.
>> Okay. Have a seat.
>> Timothy is losing blood quickly and is
rushed to hospital.
>> We need him.
>> Who can find a way to stop this
bleeding? Kyle, can you
>> I'm on it. Yeah.
>> I stayed with him when Valinski did a
safety sweep.
>> I I said I stayed with him when Valinsky
did the safety sweep. I don't know where
the knife is.
>> I haven't been inside yet.
>> Okay.
Just coming. They took his his stuff
off. So, we got pictures. If you want to
take more, that's fine.
>> Okay.
>> If you want to start interviewing, uh
interviewing trying to see if we can get
that knife. See where it's at.
>> I was told we're going to hold off on
interviews for detectives.
>> Detectives. Okay.
>> But I can ask where the knife is.
>> Okay.
>> Once you might already know. Thank you.
>> Hey sir. Sir.
>> Hey. Did you call us?
>> Okay. Can I talk to you real quick?
>> So what happened, man?
>> Huh?
>> So what happened?
So, we were sitting inside and she came
running out of the house screaming
>> through this door.
>> Yes. Okay.
>> Through our house and told us to call
911. And that's my nephew.
>> Oh, I apologize.
>> No, no, it's okay. And and my
brother-in-law is on his way home. He's
at work.
>> Okay. Hey, just to let him know when
he's on his way home, if you could
please just stop outside the tape. I
know there's a lot of emotions,
everything like that, but we have
detectives coming down. There's a whole
lot.
>> I totally understand.
>> I appreciate that. The officer earlier
did ask me, did I go into or was I in
the house? I wasn't in the house until
after the fact. I did go in and get the
kid.
>> Oh, no. Just start with what happened.
>> I wasn't there. All right. So, she
called and she has blood all over her
hand, so I thought maybe he had cut
himself. Um, and she said, "Call 911."
So,
>> did she run back over after that?
>> Yes, she went right back over to him.
>> Yeah.
>> And then my wife called 911. Yep.
>> I went over to see what was going on and
get the baby. And
>> so you went in and got the kid from
inside. What did you see?
>> I just saw blood all over the floor and
he was actually on the front porch and
she was there with him.
>> What was she doing?
>> Just holding his chest.
>> No, ma'am. Sorry. Nobody go inside that
house.
>> Okay.
>> And was holding his chest. Yeah.
>> Okay. Then what?
>> And she was just screaming, "Help.
Help." And that's when we got here.
>> There's nothing I could do. Yes, sir.
>> Would you mind filling out a voluntary
statement? A voluntary I'll do whatever
you want me to do.
>> What's her daughter's name?
>> She's with you guys though.
>> She hurt her heard or anything like
that?
>> I can't remember her name for
>> She's not physically hurt or anything
like that.
>> She in your car?
>> She's inside. Oh, her. Yeah, she's in
the backseat of my car.
>> Yep.
>> Scene's taped off. I'm getting the
going.
Take more.
>> Take more.
>> Yeah, just take a bunch. Wipe it. Clean
it. And then get get some clean when
you're done.
>> Okay.
Yeah, they want out right now.
>> You want out?
>> Okay,
>> they're going to go that way.
>> Put that tape over there. I don't want
to leave. I got the suspect in my car.
>> Yeah,
>> they're going out that way.
>> Oh, sorry.
Are you guys leaving too?
>> Right now.
>> Okay.
An officer questions Timothy's uncle
about the knife.
So they live there and uh his uncle aunt
live here.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> All right.
>> Can I get your information?
>> Sure.
>> And whatever you saw heard
>> all I seen was her coming and telling me
to call 911.
>> That's that's all I need in the back.
>> Come on, buddy. Come on.
>> No. No. No. Come on. Come on, buddy.
>> Come on. Thanks. Come on.
>> Come on. Come on.
And I did tell you that I wasn't in the
house. I wasn't in the house when it
happened, but after the fact, I did go
in and get the baby.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That you uh you told the officers
that
>> I did tell
>> Do you know where uh the knife is at?
Did she tell you where the knife's at?
>> Uh
there was a utility knife laying here.
>> Uhhuh. Where's that at?
>> Came out and I did pick it up. I think I
did put it in the house.
>> Okay.
Um,
if I can go in with you for a second, I
won't touch anything. I promise I can.
>> Yeah, let's go under what? What you saw
back here?
>> I might be able to.
>> There it is right there, sir.
>> That's the knife that was out there.
>> Yes, sir. That's the
>> She brought it back in.
>> I brought it back in.
>> You brought it back in?
>> I just picked it up by the end.
>> Okay,
>> Duke. Shush.
>> But that was outside.
>> Yes, sir.
when she came out steps once he came
out.
>> Put that on there. Thank you.
>> Yes, sir. I will.
>> Okay.
>> It's going to be a uh carpenter knife.
>> Carpenter knife.
>> The ones you cut carpet with.
>> Oh,
>> you okay? Is there enough air back
there? You too hot?
>> No. Okay. Watch your feet. Watch your
feet.
where we're at. He was transported to
the hospital, but he doesn't work in
good conditions. I think he's going to
be 1092. We had the female. We have the
female. Yeah, we have the female in one
of our vehicles. We closed
and put up uh crime scene up. We got a
log on and just ran on you guys. Yeah,
that'll that'll be good. Thank you. You
can do that. Um as soon as uh Yeah, we
got one detective here. I'll clear and
let them handle this cuz they're the
first two and I'll start checking some
calls too.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> You need your dogs?
>> Not right now. That's fine. Thank you.
Timothy's dad arrives.
>> I'm telling you right now that he's been
transported to the hospital and that's
all we have at this time. Sir, I cannot
give out any information that would hurt
detective investigation or that could
not help your son. Do you understand?
>> So, the the daughter is okay with him
and she is perfectly okay.
So, I apologize you're having to deal
with the cops with all this going on,
but that's where we're at, sir.
>> But he is alive, right?
>> Yeah. They said when they transported
him, he did have a pulse. Yes, they
already took him up to the hospital.
>> Be straight up with you. He didn't look
good, man.
>> You might want to go up there.
>> You might want to go up to the hospital
and find out further for your brother,
man.
>> So, he's at hospital.
>> Yeah, he's up at the the big hospital.
>> Yep.
>> Okay.
>> I apologize, man. I'm sorry.
>> Can you get an escort by chance?
>> No, we got to stay here with this, sir.
>> Yeah, we got to stay here with this. Uh,
>> be safe on your way up there, man.
>> Yeah, please.
>> Thank you, sir.
>> Yep. Thank you. If you got anything
else, let me know.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Can one of you guys ask her if they go
in and grab her a change of clothes?
>> We have a change of clothes for her.
>> Hey, Britney.
>> Is it okay if one of us goes inside to
get you a change of clothes?
>> Yeah.
>> You don't know where any of them are?
So, you're consenting to let us go
inside your residence?
>> Yeah.
>> Go in.
21101 hour. She said we can go inside to
get a change of clothes.
You guys are getting
21
>> 21.
Is that her phone?
>> Uh, probably touching nothing.
>> No, I'm not touching nothing either
for a change of clothes.
She say water sweatshirt.
>> Looks like there's some right there. TV
>> sweatpants.
What about this?
>> Are these old trip XL?
>> Bam.
>> Okay, there's pants.
>> Pants
and just a shirt. It really matter. Oh,
there we go. Sweatshirt. Perfect. All
right.
I'm going to take you to the police
department and the detective is going to
invest or interview you. Okay.
>> Okay.
>> All right. Just give you a heads up.
>> Just so you don't think I'm kidnapping
you or anything.
>> Britney is transported to the police
station for a formal police
interrogation. [snorts]
>> Go ahead.
You can hang out for a second. I'm just
going to stand right here. Okay.
>> And he's pushed me before. I have knots
on my head from last week where he
pushed me down the hall into the door
and everything else. It's an abusive
relationship always, but I never thought
anything like that would happen. And I
grabbed a knife. I was like, "Stay away
from me." And he still came running at
me. And I was like,
Oh my god. He in his stomach
and then he walked outside and he was
holding his chest and I was like,
"Timmy, Timmy, I'm sorry. I'm sorry."
>> Okay. And then the house where you were
at, whose house is that?
>> That's his dad's cuz I didn't have
anywhere else to go, so I moved him with
him.
>> So So you're living with Tim
>> with his Timothy Figgle's dad.
>> Well, you're living with Timothy
Figgle's dad.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
And um
where does Timothy live?
>> He lives right down the road.
>> Right down the road. Okay.
>> It wasn't any issue at all between us
before at all today.
>> There was no issues whatsoever.
>> Okay. And where did you get married?
>> Here in Elco.
>> Here in Elco. How long ago?
>> 2019.
>> And so you were married about a year.
two years, a year and a half, almost two
years.
>> Okay.
>> I just felt like I was on my own. I
didn't have anybody there for me and
nothing else. So, I just like was if I'm
going to do this on my own, then I need
to do this on my own 100%. And I didn't
I still
>> And And
does he work?
>> Yes, he works.
>> And And do you work?
And I just lost my job about two weeks
ago. [snorts] The other night, man. I
got into a fight and and
[snorts] I don't I don't know exactly
what happened. I know his dad was there,
but he had pushed me down and I went
into the door. The door is right here.
I'm facing this way. [snorts] So my left
side of my head was facing the door and
he pushed me back and all right here is
kind of knotted up and then in the back
of my head is a little tiny knot. But I
don't honestly I don't know what exactly
completely caused that fight because he
was sitting there staring at me and I
was like what are you staring at me for?
and he got in my face and I kind of
tried to I didn't push him but I was
pushing him back.
>> And who who [snorts] lives next door?
>> His uncle Mike and Aunt Wanda.
>> Okay. Are you in good terms with them or
>> I mean I guess I don't really talk to
them cuz they're not my family.
>> Are they good people though?
>> As far as I know, yes.
>> Okay. So, your daughter,
that's where she's at right now. Okay.
So, I promise you I'd let you know where
she was. Okay. [clears throat] How big
How big is Tim?
>> 6'4.
>> So, he's a big guy.
>> Big guy.
>> 230 240.
>> Okay. So, he's he's a pretty big guy.
>> Okay. So, when the fight you guys were
in the living room, okay, and the
argument. So, he's like, I I want to I
just want to make sure I'm clear. So,
you know, make sure I got this down.
You're in the living room. You said
[clears throat] you went to go get your
drink. Where was your drink at?
>> My drink was it was a Dr. Pepper can.
And I believe it was sitting by the
microwave. Like, here's our microwave. I
think it was kind of sitting to the side
right here.
>> Okay.
>> And then, like I said, here's our
microwave. And about maybe a foot away
is the living room.
>> Okay. And you were drinking Dr. Pepper?
>> Yes.
>> Was there anything in the Dr. Pepper?
>> Dr. Pepper. That's it.
>> Okay. Have you had anything to drink
tonight?
>> Uh, I had one shot of a 99 vodka and
that was at like 2:00.
>> Okay.
>> But that's it. He's like, I'm so done
with this. I'd rather just kill you and
be done with it.
>> And then at what what did he do when he
after you made that?
>> He started walking towards me. He did
have his fist clenched beside his like
right here. [snorts]
And I was like, "Timmy, that's it. Don't
don't get any closer to [clears throat]
me. I'm done with this." And then I had
grabbed the knife. And then I was like,
"Timmy, don't get any closer." And he
kept on coming. Kept on coming. I was
like, "Timmy, don't get any closer." And
he kept on and he got pretty much right
here from me. And I just
standing cuz I didn't know what else to
do. I felt like
>> Has he has he ever had violence towards
you where he's left bruises or anything
like that?
Yes, but I don't I don't like to
I never
I never told anybody cuz I mean I loved
you. I really did. And I didn't know
what to do. I didn't want anybody
getting in trouble. I just
felt like it was the right thing to do
is not to say anything. His [snorts] dad
knows. His dad's seen it.
>> Seen it.
>> But the bruises, the fights, everything.
But nobody else has.
>> But nobody else has.
>> Nobody else. He's He's the only one that
I've talked to about it cuz I didn't I
didn't want to go to anybody else.
>> Okay. And you've talked to his dad? Yes.
>> About it? [snorts]
>> Okay.
>> I do smoke weed almost pretty much every
day. And then I've only I just bought
coke today. I have not done any have not
nothing. I just it was one of those days
where I just I really honestly hated
myself. So I just
felt like maybe that would kind of help.
>> What kind of phone? What kind of phone
do you have? [snorts]
>> It's an iPhone 11.
I'll give you my password and
everything. I don't [snorts] I don't
have anything to hug.
called his dad.
>> What's that?
>> Y called his dad.
>> His his um he showed up. I didn't get to
talk to him or anything. He an older
guy, gray hair, like maybe a goatee.
I think he drives a Ford.
I hope I meat wasn't mean to you or
anything like that. I don't know. I just
I mean understand
this to happen.
I just want
he ever threatened to kill you before.
[snorts]
>> He has multiple times, but
he's came after me for
so
>> he's come after after you multiple
times, but he's never
He's held me down, but never
never really completely threatened my
life.
>> But has he verbally said or he kill you
before?
>> Yes.
>> Multiple times. [snorts]
>> Okay. Like I said, this is my card.
Okay. I just want you to know if you can
think of anything [snorts] that you need
to tell me or talk to me, you can talk
to any of the deputies, okay? And
they'll get a hold of me 24/7, okay? If
there's something else you think of or
whatever that maybe we should have
discussed, okay? Just you can get a hold
of me, okay? And I I just I want you to
know that I'm like the I'm not the cops
cop like these these guys or whatever,
okay? You know, I'm the fat old guy or
whatever that you know, I'm just want to
be here for you. I'm trying to get both
sides of the story, okay?
>> I told you everything all these
>> and I I I think you were being very
honest with me, okay? So, I appreciate
that. But like it says, I just want to
keep that avenue open because I don't
want us to close down if we have if we
don't have to. Okay? There you go. Just
like that.
>> Can I see this out for a second?
>> No. Sorry.
>> Mr. Beach, would you mind coming and
grabbing the dogs out of the yard?
>> Uh, yeah. Just a second.
>> Thank you.
other time
in the
>> Come on, son.
>> Come on.
>> Come here.
>> Come on.
>> Come on, dude.
>> Come on.
>> Yep.
Timothy succumbs to his injuries,
turning this disturbing true crime case
into a homicide investigation. The next
day, detectives returned to the area to
canvas the neighborhood and encounter a
web of conflicting stories.
>> Hello there.
>> How's it going?
>> Good. How about yourself?
>> Good. Good.
>> Good. I'm uh Sergeant Drake with the
Police Department.
>> Yes.
>> I'm doing some followup on the incident
from last night. Uh-huh.
>> I was wondering if you could answer some
questions for me.
>> Sure. Coming in.
>> Oh, yeah. That'd be great.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Thank you. Hello.
>> Hi.
>> How are you
>> doing? Great.
>> Good.
>> And you can sit here at the table.
>> It'll be quick. No problem at all. Yeah.
So, um I'm sure you're aware we had an
incident there last night. So, sorry.
>> Did you know your neighbors that well?
>> Well, we we
>> we just say hi. How are you?
>> Okay. So, just in passing.
>> Yeah. We they did some cook off. We did
some cook off like just like that. We
never went to the house. They never came
in.
>> Okay.
>> Just on the house,
>> which is when when we met the girl, the
baby when she was born, we went and took
a present and stuff like that.
>> Okay. All right. How many people lived
in the residence? Do you know?
>> Well, but I know it's the
>> living in this property.
>> Yeah.
>> It was the the father of the kid.
>> Okay.
>> And the girl.
>> And the girl.
>> And the little girl. The baby.
>> And the baby. Okay. So, just those
three.
>> Those three. Okay.
>> Did the um so it was my understanding
and maybe you guys know that her and her
husband kind of is separated, right?
>> Did he stay there too sometimes?
>> No, I think he go to his house.
>> Oh, he lives down the road. So,
>> okay. So, he would just come up and
visit maybe.
>> Yes, but he didn't spend the whole day
sometimes.
>> Come spend the whole day.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Because when his father was there,
he'll come and they stay there and then
he
>> But I don't think he he will spend the
night.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> Not that we that
>> Not that you know.
>> No.
>> Did you ever see if she brought anyone
else home with her that you guys know of
>> like a male?
>> Yeah.
>> No.
>> No. Okay.
>> Did you guys ever hear any fights going
on over there?
>> A lot.
Not punching, but more like ah screaming
back and forth.
>> And then you can hear like they hit the
like the walls like you know you can
hear.
>> Oh wow.
>> Like on the counter. I think I believe
their house has an island. I think
maybe. Okay.
>> I'm not sure. Or could be the dining
table. Okay.
>> But you can hear you know where somebody
bangs.
>> Mhm.
>> Not necessarily hitting somebody. More
like the walls.
>> Gotcha. Okay. And that was pretty
common.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Mhm.
>> Like how often would you say
>> like how often? We'll say like three
times a week or
>> he works at the mine schedule.
>> So he'll be gone for four or five days.
>> When we say he, just so I make sure, are
we talking about dad or the son?
>> The son.
>> The son.
>> Yeah, the son. The son.
>> Yeah. But both of them work for the
mind.
>> For the mind.
>> Oh, okay.
>> So most of the time when the the the dad
wasn't home, it's when they have the
arguments and the fighting.
>> So dad was gone and then that's when
you'd hear the arguments.
>> He'll come over to be with them.
And it's not every time. Sometimes you
can see him laughing, playing with the
girl and all that.
>> Okay.
>> Next day they're like,
>> "Gotcha."
>> And then next day is like normal.
>> Gotcha. Okay. All right. Did you ever
see them get physical with each other?
>> No.
>> No. Never. Never saw that. Just hear it.
>> Just hear it.
>> And may when we heard the sounds and
everything, it's inside the house. Never
outside.
>> Never outside. Okay.
>> But most of the time when there was the
fighting and the argument when the dad
wasn't there wasn't there. Yeah.
>> Did it ever happen when dad was there?
Do you know?
>> No.
>> No. I don't know.
>> No. Not that we know. No.
>> No. Because I think he'll he'll
>> either send him home or Yeah. He'll step
in.
>> He he'd be dead.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. All right. Okay.
>> So, no concerns that that her and dad
had any problems then?
>> No. No.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> And just so I'm clear, when we say he,
we're talking about
>> the guy.
>> The guy. The kid. Not the father. Not
the grandpa.
>> Not the grandpa. Okay. Perfect. Okay.
Okay. I just want to make sure I'm
understanding.
>> We we named we nicknamed him.
>> Okay.
>> But we don't know what his name was.
>> What did you call him?
>> No, we was we never called him. We just
when we talked about him, we refer him
to him with this nickname that we put
but not to call him outside.
>> Okay. Is it a bad nickname? You don't
want to tell him? Okay. [laughter]
>> Cuz they're from back east or south.
>> Yeah. From Louisiana, I think.
>> Yeah. So he has an accent,
>> right?
>> So she said like the way he said he when
we walk outside he said he didn't say
hi, how you doing? He said howdy.
>> Oh, gotcha. Okay.
>> So we said the howdy guy.
>> Gotcha. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's
that's good. Yeah. Okay.
>> I don't know if he's going to help or
not, but he did had a drinking
situation.
>> Okay.
>> You like to drink?
>> No, that does help. Yeah, absolutely.
>> She likes to smoke.
>> Okay. A lot. Okay. All right.
Okay. Did he drink a lot?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. How about grandpa? Do you
know if he does anything?
>> No. No.
>> No. Okay. So, didn't hear anything
before the ambulance got here?
>> No.
>> How well do you know him? Do you know
them at all?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> We've been here for 4 years. We knew
them for 4 years.
>> So, they've been here the same amount of
time roughly.
>> They've been here longer.
>> Oh, they have?
>> Oh, well, Jesse.
>> Jesse has? Yeah.
>> And what about his uh son and daughter?
I know the son lives down the road
there.
>> Okay.
>> And then I know that she moved here
>> um
>> I would say maybe a little over a year
cuz they weren't getting along.
>> Okay.
>> So she moved up here.
>> So she moved up here.
>> Yeah.
>> So she was living down there with him.
Okay. And then she moved up here about a
year.
>> I I would say roughly a year, maybe a
little over a year.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Did you ever see or hear anything uh as
far as like any type of arguments, any
fights?
>> No. Um, did they ever, you know, come
over and say, "Hey, I need help with
something."
>> I do know. Do I have to testify?
>> I I can't honestly answer that.
>> Well, no. I do know back maybe a year or
two ago, he did want to commit when
their relationship uh Timmy wanted to
commit.
>> Okay. Timmy did
>> when they
were going through their separation.
>> Oh, okay.
>> That's the only thing he came over and
told us. And I and I tried to tell him
that
Life is not fair,
>> right? Sure.
>> Um and that's about it.
>> Normally when she comes home, he leaves.
Like it was um kind of like when he was
off, she had the baby. When she was off
>> Oh, sorry.
>> That's okay.
>> When he was off, he would watch the baby
cuz she would be at work.
>> Gotcha.
>> And then when she was home, she would
have the baby.
>> Okay. So they didn't really
>> No.
>> No. Okay. Yeah.
>> All right. So they weren't there
together a lot?
>> No. I mean, if if the dad was home, yes.
>> If dad was home, then yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So, yesterday I didn't even know he was
there because we were in the house from
like maybe like 3.
>> So, normally she comes home and he
leaves.
>> Okay.
>> So, that's that's
about it.
>> How about her? You know, she
>> she kind of kept to herself.
>> Okay.
>> Um she would tell us hi when we see her
um if she was out in the yard. If I was
out in the yard with my kids. Um but
that's about it. She never really if we
barbecued she would stay there. They
would come here. Oh,
>> she wouldn't really participate.
>> Yeah. If we barbecued over there, she
would stay in the house.
>> Oh,
>> yeah. So, it wasn't really like
>> really close.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Hello there.
>> Hi.
>> Is this your home?
>> No. Okay. I'm trying to get a hold of
the homeowner.
>> Oh, okay.
We'll we'll make an adventure. We'll go
together.
>> You just dropping off food?
>> Yep.
>> Where's mine? I'm
>> sorry. They didn't see you.
>> They didn't see me expecting death.
>> A That's messed up.
>> Yeah, that's cool. That's good for you.
>> There's two visitors for you. We'll drop
this one off.
>> There you go.
>> Thank you for choosing our dash.
>> Thank you.
>> Take care.
>> Thank you.
>> Hello. How are you?
>> Good. I'm Sergeant Drake Police
Department. It's mine.
>> It's hers.
>> I'm sorry. Do you mind if I come in and
speak with you?
>> Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate
it.
>> Who are you?
>> Sergeant Drake Police Department. Okay.
Thank you.
>> Oh, please have a seat.
>> Oh, I'm okay. It'll be quick.
>> Okay.
>> It'll be very quick, but thank you so
much.
>> I don't know them, but I was outside and
they were arguing. They started arguing.
>> Were they arguing last night?
>> Uh, yes. It was yesterday.
>> Oh, what? Okay. Um she was like yelling
and like acting like like she was
yelling and screaming and crying and he
was telling her like you need to calm
down and then they went inside and they
were yelling in there and then they went
back outside and I just heard her crying
and then their other neighbor went over
and said talk to her and [snorts]
then I came back inside.
>> Which other neighbor?
>> Uh the one right next to the house like
on the left side.
>> The one on the left side. So like is
that
>> No, not not this one right here, but the
next one went down.
>> Oh, the next one went down. Okay. Okay,
gotcha. So that neighbor came out to
talk to her.
>> Yeah. And then I think he called the
cops or something.
>> Okay.
>> Because he went to talk to her and then
the cops came.
>> About what time was that you heard him
arguing? If you It doesn't have to be
exact. If you can just kind of remember.
>> Um
one second.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> I was on the phone so I love phones. You
can always find something with the
phone.
>> Yeah.
>> This is John.
>> Never here.
>> Gotcha. You're working. I've been
working for the last two weeks straight.
>> Oh, yeah. Well, they can't get anyone
hired, so they got to rely on people
like you.
>> It was around 7:00, whenever they were
already around 7.
>> You left around what? 7:30, Mom.
>> Yeah, we did. And the cops were already
there.
>> And they were already there when you
guys left.
>> Yeah, we left to go get to Arby's.
>> Okay.
>> Not Arby's, but Arctic Circle. I wanted
them shake.
>> It's hot. I don't blame you. Yeah. Okay.
>> They make the best huns. Uh, yeah. I'm
not going to argue with you on that.
>> It was about 7:10 or so.
>> 7:15 somewhere around in there.
>> I heard like a dog like crying, so
that's why I walked to the end of the
driveway and then I seen them on the
porch arguing.
>> Okay. So, you actually saw them arguing
outside?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Could you tell what they were arguing
about?
>> I don't know. I just know she was
yelling and he was trying to get her to
calm down and
>> So, you could hear him trying to calm
her?
>> Yeah. I heard him say, um, he needs to
calm down. Okay.
>> And that's all I heard him say. The rest
was just her yelling.
>> Just yelling. You couldn't really tell.
>> Crying, so I couldn't understand her.
>> That's all I know.
>> Okay. Was anyone else there?
>> I didn't see anyone else. She heard a
kid.
>> I did hear a kid.
>> Okay.
>> I don't know if there was the kid there,
but I heard like a kid crying. I know
they have a kid.
>> Okay.
>> So
>> So you heard a kid crying, but not sure
if it's theirs. Is there a different
one?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. All right. That's fair.
>> Um we heard that he died.
>> He did.
>> That's too bad.
>> Yep. He sure did. I'm sorry. Can you
repeat that?
>> She had a drinking problem.
>> She had a drinking problem.
>> Yeah. And I think she had a drug
problem, too.
>> Okay. Did you ever see her use alcohol
drugs?
>> I know somebody that knows her. So, and
he told me that she had a drinking
problem and she did coke.
>> She did coke. Okay. Do you know if he
had any uh substance abuse problems at
all?
>> No.
>> Not that you're aware of. No. Okay.
>> But he was her manager and he fired her
like a week ago.
>> So,
>> the person that told you this? Yeah.
>> Oh, I see. Okay. So, he's the one who
said, "Hey, she's got this problem." And
then is that why she got fired? Do you
know?
>> I don't know.
>> Don't know. Okay.
>> She um she's friends with him. That's
how she knows all this.
>> Yeah, understood. I kind of figured
there's some some relationship there.
All right, that's fair.
>> That was a common thing.
>> Yeah.
>> How often would you say?
>> Like every day?
>> Like every day?
>> Like all it was all the time?
>> Really?
>> Like either he would be in the car. I
know there was times where he'd be in
the car like with his music all the way
up with his head down and she'd be like
on the porch or like I think that was
right after an argument that that would
happen.
>> Okay.
>> So that's all I know.
>> But but you could hear them arguing
pretty regularly.
>> Did you like ever see them get physical
with each other? No. Okay.
>> Thank you so much.
>> No, thank you guys so much and I uh
really appreciate you talking with me.
Sorry to interrupt your lunch. So
>> all right, you guys have a good day.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah. Thank you. Detectives questioned
Timothy's father, who reveals shocking
truths in a pair of interviews.
>> I just think she was defending herself.
>> I mean, your [snorts] your son was a big
man.
>> Yeah,
>> big man. From I haven't seen Britney,
but from what I hear, she was like 100
pounds or so.
>> She only hit 100 pounds. She's a little
bitty thing.
>> Yeah.
>> And like I said, I'm
I missed my boy already. I can't help
but think that he was on her.
I mean, I don't know. I wasn't there.
>> But you
>> or he was coming at her.
>> You've seen things before.
>> Yes.
I seen him bounce her off the wall when
I was like I told you when I was leaving
for work.
>> Yeah.
>> And I had to grab him to No, no, no, no.
[snorts]
>> That was what' you say, a week. Was it
two weeks?
>> About a week ago.
>> About a week ago. And then when he when
I pulled up from work about a month
month and a half or so ago, he comes out
of his truck, looks at me, and says,
"I think I want to kill you, Dad." And
he was pissed off. And I just come home
work. So I didn't see the the reasoning
you.
>> Yeah.
>> And I did tell him, "Back up or you're
going to leave here with a limp cuz I
will shoot you in your kneecap."
>> What What do you think changed him? Was
the drugs? Was the drinking?
>> He wasn't the same son I raised.
>> Okay. How long it been like that then
you think
since he changed?
>> Six, seven months. I mean, that's what
I'm saying. He just
>> anger.
>> And then
and I call like I talked to his mama
today too and she's bipolar as hell.
>> Mhm. And she seems to think that that
could be it because bipolar will make
you go from happy golucky to pissed off
just boom.
>> He ever been diagnosed or anything?
>> He wouldn't go.
>> He wouldn't go.
>> I I told him, "Get in the truck. I'll
take you to the doctor. Hell, I'll pay
for it."
>> When he was an adult or
>> Yeah. Just when he started talking about
wanting to just pop people's heads off.
When he started talking about wanting to
kill somebody,
>> that's when I really noticed the issue.
I don't know what happened to my kid.
>> Um,
>> I'm not taking the blame cuz I know how
I raised my son.
I moved her and that baby in here so she
wouldn't leave with that baby.
>> Mhm.
>> Because
>> that's what she was wanting to do is
leave with your granddaughter.
>> She's wanted to go back to Louisiana.
>> Okay.
>> And in my heart, I thought I was doing
the right thing. You know what I mean?
>> But as far as hatred, I don't hate that
child.
Britney
>> because I can't help but believe in my
heart she was defending herself
>> because I know how the hell he was
>> just in that six months time.
>> Yep.
>> Had you ever seen any type of injuries
on her?
>> I've seen marks on her where he grabbed
her.
>> Where he grabbed her?
>> And she just kind of breaks away.
Were they like bruised or red or?
>> Well, they was she had a couple bruises
here. Like he grabbed her, you know,
trying to, you know,
>> and I've asked him asked her. I said,
"What happened?" Timmy grabbed me. I
said, "What'd you do?"
She said, "We got into an argument, so
he grabbed me." I said, "What are y'all
arguing about?"
I said, "I know you live at this house."
[snorts]
And I said, "He's my son. He's more than
welcome here anytime, but if y'all's
going to fight,
separate,
>> right?
>> Go get your heads on straight, then come
back and try to continue the
conversation. If you can't continue the
conversation,
split up
till I get home from work, then we'll
all three come together. That way, I'm
in the middle."
>> Right. Do you ever feel just out of play
tech's advocates or that
Britney may have provoked your son at
all ever. Not just this, I'm not talking
about this instance, but was there
everything anything?
>> There was times
>> that she said things to him or
>> Yeah, there was times,
>> but nothing that would obviously
should justify that type of reaction.
>> No, I would there's
there's no way,
>> right?
Because I know he said he he felt like
killing you.
Was there any type of jealousy at all,
do you think,
with the fact that Britney was living at
your trailer, sir?
>> Well, I questioned that, too.
But at the same time, I told him,
"If you think I'ming your ex-wife, you
got another thing coming."
>> You had that conversation.
>> Yes.
>> I'm sorry to bring it up.
>> No big deal. I figured it was coming
anyway because she did live at the
house.
>> When did you have that talk with him?
>> That day. He told me, "I think I want to
kill you."
>> Okay.
And I said, "If you think I'ming
wrong,"
I said, "I probably could if I pushed
the issue, but I'm not going to
disrespect you like that."
[clears throat]
>> I appreciate you, sir.
>> Yep.
>> Thank you for coming down. Yep.
>> Happened.
>> Okay.
>> Um, going back to the first night that I
talked to you, you said that um, you
pointed to that room with the window
open and on the east side of trailer
said that was Britney's.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Um,
we have some information that sometimes
that she'd stay, you know, in your bed
in your bedroom. I was wondering if is
there a reason why you would tell me
that that was her bedroom?
>> I say I said that's where she smoked at.
>> Oh, that's where she smoked at.
>> Yeah, her and the baby stayed in my room
cuz they didn't want to be at that end
of the house by the street.
>> Okay. Okay. Um also, you know, we've
spoke to friends and uh Timothy's uh
girlfriend at the time and Britney's
friends. Um, they made some claims that
you and Britney actually went beyond
just that uh in-law relationship that
there actually was a relationship
between the two of you.
>> Well, let's see here. The only form of
relationship that was between me and her
other than that would be back home long
time ago. Okay. when they before they
ever got married. Now, and I then the
only reason I didn't bring it up before
cuz I didn't think it was irrelevant,
just to be honest.
>> Yes.
>> I have a I guess you could say issue
with the things working.
>> Okay.
>> And we would, you know, I guess you
could say over the phone when it would
have when it would work because I'm kind
of embarrassed about it, [clears throat]
>> you know, and when it would work, I
would work it out. So, I mean that's and
you know why it's weird because you this
come up because I said you know what I
should have told him that the other day
when I was over there.
>> Mhm.
>> But I didn't like I said I didn't think
it was relevant. Never dreamed anything
of it.
>> So yeah here's here's the thing. I mean,
we're trying to figure out if they had
an argument about something that that
Timothy learned. And
>> if he learned it, I don't know where he
learned it from because I could totally
I told her I said, "Nobody needs to know
about you talking to me on on the phone
or whatever trying to whenever, you
know, things work and but it wasn't
there wasn't nothing
serious and like I said, it was only
when it would work. I mean, like if he
was at work, Yeah. but if he wasn't at
work, no. Don't even bother. I'll be all
right. I'll live through it.
>> You said that happened before. It was
before they got married.
>> Yep.
>> It never after. Nothing after they split
at all.
>> No.
>> But here's the thing. They're broken up.
>> Yeah.
>> Their relationship's over.
>> Yeah.
>> You guys are adults. You're sleeping in
the same bed.
>> Yeah.
>> It happens.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't I don't I don't You guys are
having a sexual relationship.
What I want to know is
I got to have the truth here because we
were trying to figure out why this all
dynamically happened. That's my
>> that's that's that's and I would like to
know as well
because this this
it never should have went this far as
far as their fights,
you know, and if if he knew anything
about it,
he never confronted me on it.
Do you see how it would appear to be how
it could be construed that there was a
relationship between you and Britney
after the divorce happened from
everything that that Taylor told us from
what we observed when we were there with
the bedroom, right? There's no female
clothes where the snakes are at. Yeah.
>> Um you you you can kind of see
>> I can see it. And then the fact that
we're being told that
uh she threw it in his face, he's saying
he wants to kill you. I mean, there's a
lot of rage there when someone says
that.
>> Yeah. But I mean, I just
Yeah, I can understand it. I can see the
conrusion.
>> One other thing that we haven't brought
up yet is we have Britney's phone.
>> Okay. Everything's on the phone. Like we
said before, um when last time I
interviewed you, we downloaded it. Okay.
There's a number of conversations on
there between you and her.
>> I know.
>> Okay. Can you
>> It's just like I said over the phone.
>> Just she fix me or I'll fix her cuz
she's got all the she's got toys and
stuff at the house. There was no
>> So you're you're saying it it it was
merely just like a
phone sex type of thing.
>> Yeah, pretty much.
Don't hit me.
>> Let me say this. I'm gonna hit you with
that.
>> We had some a couple times after the
board, but that was it.
>> Some sex.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Yeah. You're an adult, man. I get
it.
>> Well, I just don't I mean, I I know how
it looks, but it's like I said, I feel
guilty about it.
>> Jesse, it doesn't look bad. Okay. They
They're divorced and you're you're an
adult. She's an adult. You guys make
your own decisions. We just have to have
the truth because I'm trying to do your
son justice and I'm trying to do Britney
justice.
>> It happened a couple times. It wasn't
nothing,
I guess you could say, a marriage thing
or whatever, but it happened.
>> Okay.
>> So, this is legal. I know there's rumors
that she was sleeping with the grandpa,
her ex-boyfriend's.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, he just says he loves her and he
can't wait till she get out.
I just thought to give this to you guys.
>> Perfect.
>> I'll give it to the investigating office
and see what they want to do. I think
it's her detectives now. I'll give it to
>> Okay. Thank you very much, ma'am.
>> Britney Fel is charged with open murder.
After a two-eek trial, a jury finds her
not guilty, determining that she acted
in self-defense.