I said,
>> "Do you have this on camera?"
>> Do you have this on camera?
>> He said he's got a gun, sir.
>> He can't have a gun.
>> He's threatening to kill myself. That's
fine. Step over here.
>> He's like strangling Eric. I see blood
coming out of Eric's mouth.
>> I'm going to kill you right now. I got a
gun and I'm just like, whoa. So, I
backed up. He grabbed me like that. So,
I swung him around on the ground and hit
him.
August 31st, 2025. It's a little after
3:00 in the afternoon when Rockwell
police get a call about an assault at a
McDonald's drive-thru off I30 in Texas.
To get there, and the fight's already
over, what they're left with is two men,
two trucks, and two very different
stories about who started it. And what
the officers decide in this parking lot
is going to cost one of these guys a lot
more than the other.
>> I've been out here the WHOLE TIME.
>> WE HAVE IT all on camera.
>> Let's step back here. Let's not yell at
each other.
>> He said he's got a gun, sir.
>> That's fine. Get out.
>> That's fine. Step over here. All right.
>> You stay over there.
>> Hey guys, let's get back in the trucks.
All right.
>> Let's all get back in the cars and we'll
talk about this like adults.
>> Okay.
>> Probably need paramedics.
I'll help you out. Help me up
yet today.
>> Which car right there?
>> You got your ID?
>> Guard that phone is threatened to kill
my 15year-old's son. He's going to run
into his vehicle. Let me grab my ball.
>> I have TO STAY IN THE CAR. YOU HAVE TO
STAY IN THE CAR, TOO. I HAVE IT all on
video.
>> What am I, MAN?
>> OKAY, GOOD. RIGHT HERE.
>> You were the one that walked right here
AND FLIPPED THEM OFF AND TOLD YOU.
>> NO, YOU'RE
>> LET'S stop yelling at each other.
>> I'm getting people through the drive.
>> I'll be on this.
>> Get back in your truck for me. We'll
come talk to you in a minute.
>> Officers arrive after the fight is
already over. Pull the two men apart and
have to piece the story together from
people who each tell it differently. Set
the scene and the stakes without
recapping the footage. This guy was in
full mount on this guy
>> right there.
>> What was the deal?
>> No idea.
>> But between the two cars and they're all
very animated. So just turn left door. I
got my kids in exactly like that. We're
on our way to Six Flags. I was
>> And then um what you call it? That's
when like that boom kiss and that's when
he punches right here.
>> You were out that time.
>> Yeah. Because I asked I was going to ask
something wrong with what's going on.
I'm sorry if I cut you off or something.
And he jumped off too. And I was like,
what the what's going on? Like I said, I
don't know if because they were his
people. I guess mom were walking as well
like I'm sorry if I did something wrong.
Like I'm trying to let him cut like is
everything okay? And he's like his son
started saying something and I don't
know what he said. And his dad jumped
off at me with a gun or whatever he had
in his pocket and said
>> and that's when he punched me in the
mouth.
>> That's all started cuz you flipped him
off. No, he flipped me off.
>> You cut him off in the light.
>> I I No, because I guess they were
walking through the store this way and
the mom and the son this way. I want to
walk. So, I tried to stop him properly
cuz I didn't see him because here you
go. My mirror was right here. And I like
did I do something wrong or is
everything okay or what? And then his
dad got off and attacked me on that. I
like dang. I was just trying to see what
was going on. If I did something wrong,
I was going to apologize like my bad.
And then his dad was like choking me.
And that's why I'm like hard to talk
right now cuz I can't talk. Almost lost
consciousness.
>> Get off of me.
>> It doesn't matter if he's HAD ENOUGH.
GET OFF.
>> THAT'S ENOUGH.
>> Don't ever.
>> Get off of my husband. You
>> I don't care if he's had enough.
>> I don't care. No, he doesn't.
>> He just told me.
>> I'm telling you now.
>> DON'T THREATEN ME.
>> GET UP.
>> DON'T THREATEN.
>> Get off me.
>> I said don't.
>> Do you have this on camera? Get off. You
don't press.
>> Do you have this on camera?
>> Get off.
>> Get off now.
>> Get off. Get off.
>> I will not tell you again. Can we call
911?
>> I was going to remember that he set my
head on the ground.
>> He hit me first, so I don't know what
happened.
>> That means I didn't know what happened.
>> Yeah.
>> I like, man, I'm sorry if I cut you off
or got in front of your bomb or
>> is there a walking right here? I was
like, man, I'm sorry.
I was like, I just teach her some
respect. I don't want my kids seeing
stuff like that.
>> I don't know him at all.
>> Is that your wife?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Has she gone?
>> No.
>> That's why I like I was like, man, what
did I do wrong? If I did something
wrong, you know, let me know.
>> If I get his info yet,
>> huh?
>> Did you get his info yet?
>> Uh, she's supposed to come around with
his license. But
>> Oh, I tell you right now, I'm on
probation. I can't get caught in
trouble.
>> What are you on probation for? for uh
assault with deadly weapons.
>> That probation he keeps bringing up
isn't a small thing. What he's on
probation for is a secondderee felony.
And the only reason he's out at all is
that a judge gave him a shot on the
outside instead of a cell.
>> I got a fight with my son's my ex and
son. You got a fight all at the house.
>> What's your name, boss?
>> Two Rs or one R?
>> Two Rs.
>> Two Rs.
my kids. I was about to ride back truck.
I said, "Man, teach your kids some
respect." And when he did, he was I got
something in my pocket for you like
that. So, it'll take care of you real
fast.
>> What's at what point did you get out of
your car?
>> When I was coming this way, I got out.
She like, "Hey, man. I'm tired. Did I do
something wrong?"
>> I tried to roll my window down and he
just kept saying something and I was
like, "Man, what did I do wrong?" What's
up? Like I was I'm sorry if I if I got
in front of y'all or y'all trying to
walk and I cut you off and I couldn't
see through that angle of that window.
>> Were you in the drivethru already?
>> Yeah. I was like they were walking. I
was like I'm sorry. You know
>> you were in drivethru and they were
walking. How'd they get behind you?
>> I don't know.
>> Okay.
>> He tried to threat me. He says he knows
y'all that y'all going to take care of
me that it'll all be on his side. Like
playing favoritism. I just want to tell
Tar because like especially with kid and
his mom. I I try to respect the woman at
all times.
>> So his son is the one that allegedly
blew the kids split to you.
>> He flipped me off.
>> He flipped you off. I mean you blew a
kiss at him right
>> at the dad. I mean me and the dad were
already right there. I was like teach
some respect man.
>> And you were in your car during this
first interaction or were you
>> Yeah. First I was in my car.
>> Where at? Exactly here. Right. Right
here
>> in the parking lot.
>> Yes sir.
>> And they were walking from where?
>> This direction.
>> Dad and son.
>> Mom and son. Okay.
>> That's why I was like, "Man, I don't
like to respect a mom or a kid."
>> That's why I was like, "Man, I'm sorry."
And then he was like, and then I was,
"Is everything okay, man? Did I do
something wrong?" And that's when the
dad got out, got my face, grabbed me
with a gun or whatever he had in his
pocket. Not a gun. Exactly.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Right when I turned my side,
that's when he punched me.
>> Yeah, I have a video of it.
There was no video on this.
>> Uh I talked to the manager. She said she
can release the video surveillance to
any of them.
>> So what happened is we were right here
and the mom and the boy, it looked like
you couldn't tell if they were trying to
go or not. So at first he went to come
up and then he slammed on his brakes and
Eric got out to tell him I was trying to
let you and your mom hurt. So that's
when the husband comes out and got all
up in his face and that's how all this
started.
>> That's why I won't hit nobody cuz I'm on
probation. I can't afford to get in
trouble because I'm looking at 12 years,
man.
>> It's not worth the fight for me.
>> Pick up a fresh charge while you're on
that kind of paper and a prosecutor can
ask the court to tear the deal up and
sentence him on the original felony
instead. That's where his number comes
from. To him, this isn't a fist fight in
a parking lot. It's years of his life
riding on it.
>> Tell me why I can't even breathe on you
right now. I didn't real
>> I'm having trouble trying to talk.
>> They were like right here. It looks like
>> Hey, mine's right there. Willie
>> is And then you have my head on the
ground.
>> I'm sorry. Can I get one of those
sheets?
>> No, sir.
>> Thank you. Oh. Uh, well, let me get this
for you. One of your pants is I got my
other pants dead and this one's
>> what do I call it? That I don't know if
you can see. Sorry.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> And did did anybody get her? Is she
attached to the phone?
>> I don't know. I don't know.
>> Has anybody gotten your license for you,
ma'am?
>> No.
>> No. Do you have it with you?
He has it in
a haircut.
>> Yeah. No, I'll have it in the middle of
the console of the truck.
>> Yeah.
>> And the video, what did you observe with
the video?
>> Just kind of give me your own
>> the video or like what happened?
>> Just what what you observed.
>> Okay. So his his son and I'm assuming
his wife, they had to have like went to
the bathroom or something cuz they were
coming through like this way and Eric
was confused like like at first they
were speed walking and then they were
slowing down. So he was confused like
are you going or are you not going and I
was like wait I think they're going so
slammed on his brakes
>> and then the sun flipped Eric off and
then Eric got out to ask him about it
and then the minute that Eric came
that's whenever he came out and then all
I that's whenever I told the the video
was actually taken by a 10-year-old in
the back seat. I was like, "Start
recording because some stuff I couldn't
see." And then that so the video was
taken from the back seat and that's when
they were just kind of I don't know what
was being said or whatever and they were
just kind of face to face and then
that's when he hit Eric. I saw Eric come
down and then that's whenever I got out
and by then he was like completely like
completely on Eric. It was like and cuz
he might have scratch marks on his neck
cuz I was like trying to pull him off
like bent over trying to pull him off
and he was like he says he has a gun but
I had heard him say something about a
gun. Not Eric like I'm not proud of it
but he's a he's a felon. If he goes back
he's gone for 12 years. Like he does not
pardon my friend. Um he dots his eyes,
crosses his tees on everything business
related everything.
>> Okay.
>> Um like that's not something that he
would say and he doesn't have guns. He
was the one that said something about a
gun. And so I was like I kept telling
him I was like he does not have a gun.
Get off of him. And by then I'm trying
to pull him off. Pull him off. Pull him
off. He's like strangling Eric. I see
blood coming out of Eric's mouth. So I
don't know what happened in between. I
don't know if all that was from the
punt. I don't know what all happened at
that point.
>> Okay.
>> But that's all that. And then after that
the wife came out,
>> right?
>> I was like, you know, get your freaking
husband off of my husband. And he just
went south.
Uh my husband's going to Lake Point
Bailey. You want to tell her that in
Raleigh Temple Huntsville. So uh we're
going to have an officer go meet him
over there. We got to take pictures of
his of his.
>> Uh so just to let you know that's where
once we're all done with everything,
dog, you're free to go
>> wherever you want.
>> And then what do we have to do as far as
is that like a police report with y'all?
>> Uh so we're going to take care of
everything. We're about to take care of
everything on that side. Uh, have you
written out a statement at all?
>> No.
>> Oh, is this [laughter] my time?
>> Uh, yeah. Just everything that you saw.
I know we have video evidence, but just
everything that you saw up from the
point of them walking out up until the
point where they had Is it your husband?
>> Yeah,
>> they had your husband on the ground with
choking or whatever.
>> Okay.
>> Um,
>> just your name, all your information
here, and then basically everything that
you told
>> if you want to, you're free to go right
in the car. I know your kids aren't in
there, right? No, the red Cadillac that
came because Oh,
>> they picked him up.
>> Eric, like I said, I'm not proud of it
or whatever, but his little one knows
like if he goes back, he's never coming
back. So, when this happened and y'all
showed up, like she's still balling. I
was like, "Come pick her up."
>> So, uh the my sister-in-law came and
picked up.
>> Okay. Well, you're free to write that
wherever you if you want.
>> I'm sorry. I don't have a clipboard.
>> Let me see if I have one actually.
>> I got to get my clipboard to
>> Is that because Lake Point isn't
private? Cuz I was we live right across
from Fresie. So, I was like, whenever
you said Lake Point, I was like,
>> Lake Point's a little bit better, which
is kind of
>> I'm not a fan of over there anyways. But
I was like, I wonder why.
>> Yeah, Lake Point's just kind of
>> I'm about to pull this truck all the way
through.
>> All right, please do that.
>> Hey, this Whose car is this?
>> What's that?
>> Do what?
>> Where's You're going to park, right?
>> I'm going all THE WAY. I'LL COME BACK
AROUND. JUST come back around and park
over here in the handicap if you have
to.
>> Michael.
>> Yes, sir.
>> So, tell me what happened, man. Why
don't you step step out a little real
quick?
>> So, my 15-year-old son and my wife
>> went in to use the bathroom.
>> We grabbed some food.
>> We're driving here.
My wife was walking. She came around the
building to get back in the vehicle with
us when we were in the drive-thru.
>> Okay.
>> And this guy got out strike in fronting
my 15-year-old kid cuz he said he was
looking at him. And I said, "Sir, he's
not looking at you. He's 15."
>> Okay.
>> He said, "I don't care." And I'm like,
"Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, dude. Take it
easy.
>> We're just going through a drive-thru. I
got all my kids in the vehicle. Please
don't." He goes, "I'm going to kill you
right now. I got a gun." And I'm just
like, "Whoa." So, I backed up. He
grabbed me like that. So, I swung him
around on the ground and hit him.
>> Okay.
>> Did he hit you also?
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> In the mouth.
>> All right.
>> You can see my
>> Yeah. I can sit.
>> Yeah. He hit me in the face. Give me a
second. Okay.
>> Okay. And my wife and my kid just in the
back.
>> Are you armed or anything?
>> No, sir. I have a knife on me at my
>> That's why that's fine.
>> Yeah.
>> Hang out with him for a second.
>> Hey, boss man. Did you see what
happened?
>> Dude called off the other guy. I have no
idea what happened before that.
>> Was the guy in the flannel?
>> The big guy. Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Did you see the other guy do anything?
>> No, they were I mean they were arguing.
I knew it was going to happen, but I he
stood with his hands on his hips.
>> Okay.
>> Some words said to somebody else and
this guy just called off and hit him.
>> Okay.
I'm sure there must have been some
reason, but
>> he's got video of it.
>> Older guy used to person.
>> Okay. Did the other Did the Hispanic guy
grab him?
>> Uh, he uh all I saw was
>> Let me see your video.
>> Yeah, I sent it to him, too.
>> So, right when I pulled it out, he
swung. So, it's like right at the
beginning, he swung.
>> Yeah. I can't see anything on there.
So, my kid and my wife got in the car
and
>> he was going crazy.
>> All right, give me a second. Can we
watch him real quick? Talk to him.
>> Did he grab you?
>> He hit me in the face.
>> Mhm.
>> In the lip. And
so, I just grabbed a hold of him. Tried
to restrain him. And he's gone crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> He's like, "You don't you don't tell
your kid not to look at my car and
stuff." I was like, "My wife went into
the bathroom. I got my 12-year-old and
we're getting chicken nuggets." when he
gets out and comes over and tells me he
he'll kill us. He said, "I got a gun.
You don't think I have something?" So, I
don't know what you have, but I we're
just trying to get some food, please.
And he just escalated. He came at me. He
hit me. I mean,
>> I don't know what to do.
>> Yeah, that's crazy.
>> Yeah. He's nuts. He's like, he goes,
"You don't think I've taken out cops
before?" And I'm like, "You're messing
with the wrong guy." You know what I'm
saying? You You do that.
>> Yeah.
>> I just was worried. And then he was
tustling still when your officers were
here like trying to whatever he was
doing. I don't know if he was doing
crazy. Then his wife got out. My wife
was out and uh they said, you know,
settle down. Settle down. The whole time
he's trying to punch me and just going
crazy.
>> What the bigger man did might be
completely legal. In Texas, you're
allowed to put your hands on someone if
you really believe it's the only way to
keep yourself or your family from
getting hurt. If that's what happened
here, he didn't break any law at all. He
used force he was allowed to use. But
there's a limit on that. You lose it the
second you're the one who started the
fight. The whole case lands on a single
question. And it's the one thing nobody
here tells the same way. Who threw the
[music] first punch. So
>> all right.
>> Yes, sir. Thank you, though. I
appreciate that. When were you in the
82nd?
>> Yeah, I was 11 Bravo Charlie. Were you
military? Yeah, I was I have a lot of
buddies that were in 82,
>> but I wasn't good enough to do PT tests
for a Ranger Ranger induction program or
any of that. So,
>> I was 11 Bravo, too.
>> I did I was deployed and stuff.
>> I didn't know what to Nowadays you
people tell you they're going to kill
you and he's
>> throwing blows at me. I mean, I took
that pretty serious, you know. I just
tried to restrain him. I was I had
holding him down like that and he's
grabbing my neck and
>> Yeah.
>> Whatever. So anyway, all these people
were like, "Stop," you know, telling him
to stop and stuff and he just didn't
care.
>> Yeah.
>> He said, "I don't care cuz I don't know
what he's going to do, you know." But
anyway,
it's crazy.
>> Looks like he's wanted,
>> huh?
>> Looks like he's wanted. He's crazy.
Look like he's got a couple warrants.
>> That's my 15-year-old son that he was.
So you got magazines looking at the car.
>> My son and my wife are waiting for us in
the drive-thru.
>> Yeah.
>> So he comes this way. My wife and my son
right here. He's right here in front of
us. And my son just looked at his
vehicle and then he jumps out telling
him he's holling at my kid. I said,
"Sir, please." And then as soon as I got
out, he he comes to me and then he's
like, "I've been in prison. I just want
to get out of here. We're trying to get
some chicken nuggets and get out of
here." He said, "I'll kill you. I'm in
I've been in prison."
>> Yeah. And I said, "I don't care where
you've been. We don't want any
troubles." He's like, "You don't think
I'm packing?" I said, "Sir,
we're you you know what I'm saying? This
we're getting chicken nuggets. I will
talk to my son. If he looked at you, I
apologize." He wasn't having any piece
of it.
>> That's so That's just bizarre.
>> He's a lunatic. And of course, I didn't
hear anybody. Seems like it's forever,
you know, to get somebody here, but I'm
sure it was seconds, you know, minutes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You're okay. Yeah. You don't
need to see EMS or anything like that.
>> I don't think so. My face before he hit
me.
>> He's been hit in the face. You know,
it's a little
>> Yeah,
>> over what? Over my son looking at his
vehicle. My son didn't do anything. I
was watching my wife and something over
here.
>> Yeah. Ridiculous.
>> If you want, you can get I don't know if
that's shade, but
>> you get a stand out here. I might as
well see it.
>> I mean, I want to press charges, you
know? I mean, I don't know what that
looks like, but
>> seems like he has some warrant, so he'll
be going regardless. So,
>> I have a warrant, too, from about 25
years ago. It's not nonextraded from
another state. It's from an unpaid
traffic ticket.
>> Uh, Montana.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> Mine still shows up, but
>> I've been making payments until they
said, "Yeah, don't worry about it." So,
never They said I'd have to go back
there. And of course, when I talked to
an attorney here about helping me, cuz
it's been 25 years.
>> Yeah.
>> They said, "Well, you know, you were 18
when you did it. You're 55 now. You
should probably figure that out. I said,
"Yeah, I thought that uh thought I knew
everything." Whatever. You know, it's a
smart alley kid, I guess. But times
change. My mom is in law enforcement.
Has been for 30 years.
>> Oh, wow. Yeah.
>> Where at?
>> Uh North Dakota.
>> Okay.
>> So, she gave me lots of talking, too.
But what it was is I paid uh it was a
$7,500 fine
and I thought I'd be a smart alec about
it, you know, cuz I wasn't getting along
with the probation officer. So I took it
to him in singles and change.
>> Yeah, it wasn't a real smart.
>> How you doing, sir?
>> Doing all right. What about yourself?
>> No, but the guy sent me the video.
>> Oh, you already sent you. Oh, he's on
that side.
I'm just going to have you sign this
real quick. Just saying that came out
off of hospital saying this time. I'm
not a physician. I can't give you the
clean bill of health. There could be
something going on internally or whatnot
that I can't see. That could lead to
other complications leading up to that.
Just have to give you that whole field.
If you're okay with that, then
if anything changes, we're calling back
in. Okay.
>> Uh yeah, I've got everything. Uh
>> California.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Refugee.
>> All right. Is that what they call it
now? Refugee.
>> So where did you do your basic ed?
>> Oh benning.
>> Benning or what? The old school res.
>> Hey. Sorry. So I few questions. During
the the whole scuffle.
>> Well, what happened was I pulled around
here to get in the drivethru. My wife
had to use bathroom and so did my
15-year-old. So, they went in this side
of the building.
>> I got in. We ordered chicken nuggets. I
got in the drive-thru and we're coming
around this way and my wife and my son
were walking right over here and I I saw
my wife and son. They kind of looked at
the vehicle right here cuz I was right
behind them. And this guy jumps out of
his vehicle and he's tolerant. I said,
"Hey, hey, sir. I got out of my car and
I said, "Sir, take it easy." He goes,
"I'll kill you. I've been to prison. You
don't think I'm packing?" And he grabs
like he's got something. I said, "Hey,
hey, you know, I don't I don't I don't
want any troubles. Please, just get in
your vehicle. Let me get in my vehicle.
Let's go about our date." He's like,
"All my kids." He goes, "I don't give a
what you got." And then he took a poke
at me. And I backed up like this and I
grabbed him. I grabbed his arms. I
punched him, threw him to the ground,
and uh that was it. Tried holding him
there. Help me up. I'm going to you. And
I'm like, "Call cops. I got something
for you." And I said, "Sir, relax.
Relax. The police are almost here. I can
hear the sirens coming." He's like, "I
don't care. Get let me up right now,
mother. I ain't worried about cops. I
don't think I dealt with cops." So, I
don't know what you dealt with, but I'm
not letting you up until the cops get
here. You just told me you're going to
my family. So, I had no reason after he
took a poke at me that he was going to
do whatever he said, you know? And then
just the way he looked, I was like, I
have no doubts. He's probably been to
prisoner. He's probably done whatever he
said he was done. But I wanted you guys
here. That's why I told my wife I'm
going to call 911. But he just kept on
and would not stop. And his wife was
standing over. This guy's wife is going,
"Get off him." I said, "Ma'am, I have
the police are on their way. I'm He told
me he's going to kill us. He doesn't
have a gun." She said, and I said, "He
just told me he has something, you know,
for us.
out and so I just held him there until
his guys showed up and then nothing. I
think he probably
was still even with you
kind of back. I was just like right
before he threw a punch. What was he
say?
He said I'm
took a punch at me. So then I grabbed
him, threw him back towards the back. I
said, I said, "I'm calling the cops."
And I had tried having everybody call
the cops. And he said, "I ain't worried
about cops. I got something for you. I
got something for you. Let me up." And I
said, "Sir, we there's no problem here.
I'm going to wait till the police get
here and then they can take care of it.
Whatever we got to do. I'm just not I
had no reason to to believe anything
other than he would do."
>> So So what what do you want done right
now? Do you
>> I want to press charges for him. I'm
trying to tell us he's going to my
family. I mean,
>> all right.
>> I don't know what that looks like, but
>> All right. We're gonna we're gonna need
to get a written statement from you.
>> Give me a couple statements. Uh one for
him and one for his son.
>> Yeah. I got a couple statements here. I
think my pen might be
>> I probably don't.
>> Okay.
>> As well. Let me know if you guys need a
panel. I can get one for you.
>> But uh
>> All right. Um
I have one clip. I'm sorry. Um Okay.
Whatever you think.
>> Um so at the very top just your name and
then all your contact information and
then all those lines. just basically
everything from start to finish.
>> If you could just notate in your
statement what what she saw too. Um
since you guys pretty much saw the same
thing like we just really just see yours
and then his.
All righty.
Well, I'm sorry. What was that?
>> Yeah. Everything what he said be
be be as detailed as possible. We want
everything. Okay. Sorry.
>> All righty.
>> Sorry.
>> No, you're good. You're good.
>> Thank you for yours.
>> Yeah.
>> I'll just be right over here.
>> We didn't see that one time.
>> Okay. Okay. I mean,
>> I saw the man get out of his car and
approach my husband and I didn't I had
no idea what's going on. I didn't think
it was anything. I So, I got in the car
and the next thing I know is
I seen him come at my husband like
aggressively and anyways then they're on
then they're on the run. We tried
approaching you
>> here. He knows better than I do. So, my
son and I, sorry, we were in the breast
together and the drive-through line and
when we came out, what happened?
>> We were walking through right over here
right here.
>> Okay. And and we have video of all this
somehow.
>> So, no one in here has video of this
encounter. Okay.
But, and do you know them? Cuz I heard
you call her by name.
Called her Mia or something like that.
>> Oh,
>> okay.
Okay. I was like,
>> that's why I was like, this is so weird.
We like know each other, but we're
fighting in a drive-thru. This is I'm so
confused right now.
>> So, did y'all see what happened also?
>> Yeah. This one here, you're going to
want to talk to
>> He says basically he's walking out here
and that guy
>> that guy flips him off. So, he stares
him down and says something to him.
>> Tell me what happened, man.
>> All right. So, uh, we were walking from
the restroom and we came up beside here
and, uh, I looked I looked at him in the
car.
>> Okay.
>> And that's where I don't know if he
thought I gave him a dirty look or
something, but that's where he flipped
me off.
>> Okay.
>> And, uh, at that point, I looked into my
dad's truck and he saw the whole thing.
And uh, I kind of I was probably right
here. His truck was right there and
that's where he opened the door and got
out and uh he tried approaching me and
that's where my dad came out and
approached him. But uh
yeah, that's that's what happened there.
And um at that point he was with my dad
and he was like he was saying you're not
going to do nothing. Punch me, hit me
and stuff. And uh I was about to get in
the truck and I don't know what happened
after that, but they were on the ground
and uh he said something about a gun and
how my dad was punching them and he was
like, "I'm not done. As soon as I get
up,
>> he's like, "I'm not done. I'm not
finished with you." That's what the the
Latino said. But uh
>> that's about all I know about all.
>> Eric, can you talk to me for a second?
>> Yeah. Can you help me up, please? Yeah,
>> that's right.
>> Step right over here and talk to me real
quick. So,
>> tell tell me in your words what
happened.
>> Yeah,
>> it's right here. Tell tell me in your
words what happened.
>> So, coming this way, I can't see because
the pillar in my vehicle is big.
>> Mhm.
>> And I'm shorter. So, I said lower in the
truck.
>> Okay.
>> So, when I said lower in the truck, I
couldn't see him and his mom walking
this way. Okay.
>> Hey, I'm sorry. I didn't see y'all
because it look like they want to walk
this way in front of me. And I don't
like disrespect the kid and their mom in
front of each other. That's that's not
right.
And then he flipped me out and said, "F
you." I'm like, "What?" So I got off
like, "What's wrong, man? Did I do
something wrong?" You know, I was going
to apologize to him. And then when he
did, his dad jumped off and said,
"What's wrong with my kid? You got a
problem with my kid?" I said, "Yeah, you
need to teach respect. I got two little
girls here. You can't be doing that."
>> Okay.
>> And then he just started saying, "Well,
I got something in my pocket. I changed
your mind. This that I've done jail time
and this and that." And he says, "Well,
I've taken care of commissary and
everything like that." I said, "Look,
man, I don't care." I was like, "You got
a gun? What you got?" I don't care. I'm
not scared. I said, "Man, because that's
stupid what he's doing just walking
around flipping people off and saying,
"F you." Okay.
>> That's not right, man. I got two little
girls that see that and I don't want
them.
>> You got out of your car in the
drive-thru to talk to him about that.
>> Yeah. I was going to tell him sorry
because I was like, man, if I did
something, I apologize. You know, I want
to respect him and his mom and I don't
want him to see his mom be
disrespectful. And then, you know, him
doing that. To me, it's like, man, you
disrespect your mom. You're making your
mom look like an idiot. Like, she didn't
raise you right.
>> So, I was like, man, if I did something
wrong, I'll apologize. But I was like,
what's the problem? What did I do wrong?
you know, and that's when um his dad was
threating me and I said, "You know what?
I'm not going to lie." I blew him a
kiss. I said, "F you."
>> Okay.
>> And when I got ready to turn around to
walk back to my truck to get back in,
that's when he hit me and punched me.
>> Okay.
>> And then I lost my footing.
That's why I'm like sounding kind of
horses. I can't really talk. And I lost
conscious. He slam my head on the
ground. I feel it right here on the
back.
>> Okay.
>> Or he busted my head on the ground.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
You can go you can go back to EMS where
your police
>> everything these men say on camera is
evidence and it cuts both ways. The law
leans hard on one idea here. The
aggressor. The person who picks the
fight, who pushes it, who won't let it
go, usually can't turn around later and
call it self-defense. So, one of these
men, still working to sell himself as
the victim, keeps handing the officers
proof that he's the one who kicked it
off.
>> I thought you were going to go to the
hospital.
>> Oh, I I I didn't know if I got to get on
there. I was going to walk over there.
No, they can they can give you a ride.
>> They can come over here.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> I really
>> Hey guys.
>> Eric.
>> Yes.
>> What do you want done about this
situation? You want to press charges?
What do you want to do?
>> I want to press full charge. Everything
I can do.
>> Okay.
All right.
>> All right. I'm going to get an ID on you
real quick.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Is the address on your ID good still?
Yes, sir.
>> Real quick, uh, when was the last time
you checked your sugar?
>> Uh, not today at all. Since yesterday, I
believe.
>> Yes. Okay.
>> And then somebody still has an ID or
that Eric has it.
>> I do not know the answer to that. I
think my partner has a steel.
>> Okay. I wasn't even sure what hospital
they were taking us to.
>> Y'all see any of this chaos?
>> Did you see any of this?
I got you. You're good. Thank you.
>> Yeah, cuz I don't think
>> I don't know if we actually can see it
on the area.
>> Okay.
>> But but I have one of the guy that saw
it exactly what happened.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Because Yeah. Let me see. Uh, back
drive through camera, front drive
through. That's that one. And back drive
through that. The only one that we might
can see is on that one.
>> Okay.
>> This one down here in the bottom right.
>> Yeah,
this one right here.
So, let's see what camera is that.
Uh, let's put
single one.
I just want to see the number of the
camera. So, it's camera 19.
>> Okay.
>> So, that's
Let's put a lot.
>> It'll be close. Yeah.
>> Play back and that will be like
today.
And now we came like around.
>> Right now it's 3:16.
>> 3:16.
>> Yeah. I think it was pretty close to
three. But I had two of the youngest
adults who taking orders and one of them
was doing face in the back. Okay.
>> And they saw everything that happened.
>> They saw it all.
>> Where are they at?
>> Right now is the Gary right here.
>> Oh, okay.
>> He's one of them. And the other one
already went home, but he said you need
his statement. He'd be able to do it
tomorrow.
>> Okay, perfect.
>> Yeah, he saw everything.
>> You saw what happened? Okay. So, what
exactly happened from your point of
view?
I was back there um cleaning off the
trays and we had both noticed that there
wasn't a driver in the green truck.
>> Okay.
>> And we had both looked out the window
and I saw both the guy in the white
truck and the green truck. Um they were
standing there. They looked like they
were arguing. He got up on his face. The
the littleer guy
>> and then the taller guy I just see him
start punching him and then they went to
the ground and when I got outside I saw
he had him on the ground choking him.
>> Okay. The bigger guy was Okay. right
there. So,
>> so right there. So, let's back. Okay,
let's first of all, let's put it out
regular. So, there's a truck coming in
>> right there. And and you see the guy
who's just coming going out of the
truck. There's two people walking up.
Yeah, that's the other truck driving up.
>> There's a guy on the truck coming up
right there
>> right there.
>> Out.
>> And that's all you can see. So it all
happens on the other side of the wall.
>> Yeah.
>> Like I said, it's like a dead point
>> cuz the other truck will point where we
take the orders. So
>> Mhm. Okay.
>> And there's no cameras near the the menu
area.
>> See right there?
>> Yeah, there's another camera. Let's see.
>> Oh, wait. Hold on.
Thought I saw something.
>> Okay. And then that person gets out.
>> Everybody's looking.
>> Everybody's looking. Yeah.
>> Wow. I didn't realize she got out.
>> What?
>> I don't know if she's recording it or
what.
>> Yeah.
>> And the back door's open.
>> The cashier told me on the back. Then I
went ahead and called you guys.
>> Okay.
>> I even told Jerry right there that you
already was calling.
>> Yeah. doesn't really captures any bit of
a fight, huh?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. All right. Do you know would that
have been in view of the cameras on your
menu?
>> Let's see. We can see. Yeah, we can see.
>> Okay. So, that will be drive through
with the speakers.
I remember the camera.
>> I think it's this one right here.
>> Okay.
be full screen. Maybe
>> the one above it. All right. So, yeah,
it doesn't really catch one. I'm sorry.
>> No, it's all right. Um, your manager. Is
that right?
>> That's correct.
>> Oh, okay. Um, and then if I could talk
to Gerald real quick just to grab his
info.
>> Hey, man. Sorry. I don't want to take up
too much of your time. Um, so you said
you were standing over here at the
window.
>> I was in the back at that like back
window.
>> Okay.
>> Which kind of had a view exactly what
they were doing until they went down
below the trucks.
>> All right. All right. So, yeah, from the
video looks like the guy in the green
truck, the the shorter guy, the ball
guy, he got out.
>> Um, and so then they started talking or
arguing, he got in the the taller guy's
face and then taller guy started
punching him. All right.
>> From what I could see and when I got out
there outside, that's all I had seen.
>> Okay. Um, do you know your license ID
number by chance?
>> Uh, no.
>> Okay, that's all right. Is it Texas?
>> Uh, yes. I res
appreciate you, man.
Where your knives at?
>> Stand with me.
The video shows you the first time.
Okay. I I understand
back and forth. I understand that. Okay.
Moving the mouth to keep the fist out of
a man and such open. Okay. So, right now
you are going to go to jail for assault.
Okay.
Right now you're trying to
evidence I have.
No, there's people
there.
uh all that that that's for down.
>> So what happens with
>> I mean they said there there are
different
>> this is where it stops making sense at
least on the surface. An arrest isn't a
ruling on who was right or even on who
started it. It's a narrower question
whether the officer has probable cause.
The people here with nothing to gain all
land on the same man. That not who
started the argument is what probable
cause runs on. And it puts him in cuffs.
Even if he never wanted the fight, even
if the other man walked up looking for
it.
>> Like there's other the girls were in the
back taken. Like that was sent to me
from another girl.
>> Okay. Yeah. We're going to have you send
it to this phone right here. Okay.
>> That way we can have it.
>> Uh Sergeant, can you help me? I need to
double cuff him.
>> He's got a herniated disc. I don't want
to aggravate him.
>> She said someone else sent you this
video. You didn't take it.
>> That was uh once I saw in the rearview
mirror Eric go down. I got out of the
truck
back. I was like, "Start recording."
>> Okay.
>> Cuz both of our daughters were in the
back seat.
>> Oh, y'all's daughters were back there.
Oh, okay. So, it was your daughters that
recorded it?
>> Yeah.
>> Gotcha.
>> Yeah. Eric hadn't eaten all day. He has
diabetes and we were headed out to uh we
just lived on the other side of the
bridge. We were headed out to uh they
wanted to go to Six Flags. M.
Oh yeah. See, I didn't even see this one
yet. I just haven't went through some of
this. Like straight up just strangling
them.
>> Yeah. So, this is another one too.
>> Yeah. If you'll just send me all the
ones that you have, I'll make sure and
and submit them to the case.
>> My dad's retired from Fallen County and
he was like, I don't know how the f we
did it before this technology.
>> It definitely helps.
>> Yeah. when it car started getting too
techsavvy, he retired. He was like, "I
don't have time for this."
>> He like literally types like one at a
time. I'm like, "Oh my god."
>> A couple guys like that.
>> He's like, "It's time to retire after 25
years."
>> You sent the other one, too.
>> Yeah. Let me see.
Ever since I had that workout on my
phone today, it's being silly. It says
it went through. I don't know.
>> Oh, there it is. Yep, I got it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yep. I got uh both videos, too. I'll
upload them to to Digital. Do you want
them?
>> Let me Let me look at them one more
time.
>> Okay. So, I haven't seen both of them.
>> You can just take the phone if you want.
>> I was like, "Hey, there's another video
on my phone."
>> Like, I saw the first one.
>> Like, Eric is on the ground being
strangled and I told him a million times
he get off. Like, he does not have a
gun. There is no denying that.
I asked them and I was like cuz she's
like what's happening because she's like
that guy didn't show my husband first
and I'm like she's like people were
telling us they shut down I was like we
have video like very clearly completely
me at all y'all I get on so but I I
don't live the criminal like to him and
how it is in prison. Yeah. That's why I
try telling him like we're done with
that. We're like you have to get out of
that. So right here, like I said, we
couldn't tell if they were coming and
going. It was like they were speed up
and then they was close. I was like,
"What are y'all doing?" So Eric
literally got out and was like, "Hey
man, what's going on?" This
>> as I expect a husband to
like I I expect that.
>> Yep.
>> They get chest to chest up to that
point. Like I got no problems.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. We're a little hot. We're a little
hot. Like we're doing stupid stuff.
>> Yeah. Yeah. She's leaving right now.
But as soon as we start hitting each
other, you can't.
>> Where are you from?
>> I was born and raised.
That's why I laugh and said I was like,
we moved here to get out of the ghetto.
[laughter]
>> And then did somebody give him his ID
back?
>> Yes.
>> The charge is assault. That's a class A
misdemeanor under Texas Penal Code
22.01. And it carries up to a year in
county jail and a $4,000 fine. And the
man who gets cuffed for it is the bigger
one. The guy who put the other man on
the ground and choked him. He threw the
punches. So on that video, he's the one
who committed the assault. The guy who
got out of his truck and got in his
face. The one with everything to lose.
He's the one who walks. For all the talk
about a gun, officers never found one.
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