If at any point you lie about it, which
we're gonna find out because we're going
to scan you, you're going to go to jail.
Can I call somebody, please? At the
jail, they'll give you that opportunity.
On July 6th, 2024, a woman attempted to
fraudulently withdraw $6,000 from a
credit union using a fake New Mexico ID
and business credit card under another
person's name. Staff became suspicious
due to similar past attempts and
contacted police. That catches me when I
walk inside. Now, Hispanic in the past.
All right, sounds good. Thank you
for come on
over there.
That's so cheap. Take a 108 or taking a
108, but I don't think it's going to be
it. You got ID on you? No, he has my ID.
Okay. What's going on? Oh, he's right
there. I don't know. Okay, we'll do that
with you in a minute.
We'll be within a minute.
Nah, she's not going to be involved.
What car you driving?
Um, I came in an Uber. Came in an Uber.
Okay. I'm on a work trip. You're on a
work trip? Yeah. Hey, cuz I'm thankful
with the uh trip. You live Do you live
out here? No, I don't. I'm sorry. Okay.
Where do you live? I live on that
address. That's on my ID. Okay. What are
you doing out here? I'm on a work trip.
Okay.
Okay, just give us a minute to talk
and everything will we'll talk in a
minute. We just got to get a feel
about Haven't got with them yet to see
what's going on. Yeah, I haven't spoke
to them yet.
I haven't spoke to him yet. That's her
phone there. She's stepping on it.
Appreciate it. I have to put it down.
Okay.
This is the only ID that you have. Yeah.
Okay. That's what I'm saying. What's
going on? We're just trying to figure
that But we got to call like like I said
right now completing investigation.
Doesn't mean anything's going to happen.
We just got to figure out we got to
call. So we got to talk to them to see
what's going on. Okay. Oh, okay. I'm
like I'm just a little confused cuz I'm
here on a work trip and I'm like Okay.
What do you do for work? I do um cabinet
work. Okay. From New Mexico. Yeah. Why
Mexico right now? Okay. Yeah.
bag. See, I see.
I'm
almost um sorry. Yeah, if you don't mind
starting over. No, you're good. You're
good. So, basically, um she just walked
up. Um she was a little bit nervous. I
can kind of tell. So, then she comes up.
She goes, "Hey, I'm going to do a
passion pants." I said, I looked at the
idea like, "Okay, so for how much?" She
says, "Five if I can, three if you can
do it." And I was like, "Okay, well,
give me just a few moments where I look
at that for you." So, I just messaged
our manager group chat. Um, we've had
her trying to do this multiple times
like at other branches. So, it was like
a lookout. So, then, um, my ABM,
Michael, came over. I gave him the
license and the card so then he could go
back down, look at it, and then I just
make small talk pretty much the whole
time. What is it that you guys are
looking to do? Like, what has she done?
And I know you said that just like look
up what what has she done? The advances
was that I'm a floater. I'm not always
here. Yeah. So, um 2 days ago or a day
ago, she came in doing a cashier for
3,000. Mhm. With a newer teller that was
here. So, she processed it for her, but
this time she was trying to do one for
three or five, like whatever she could
get off the cards that was captured off
the bridge yesterday.
So she's using multiple IDs. Fake IDs.
Fake IDs. Yeah. The other one I think
was like
forget what state it was, but it like
looks really fake. Yeah. Okay. Tells
them some sort of service.
They'll do it. Yeah. Is
that super?
We have other emails in regards to
numbers.
She was going by that name as well. She
was trying to do cash advances off the
business card. I'm not sure.
But that's the only thing we we got.
Gotcha. Yeah. What? Uh,
so basically she's been going around to
different fair winds banks showing
different types of IDs trying to get
cash advances. Okay. Um, I'm going to
they 96 over service. I'm going to see
if they can do it.
Okay. Is she a member here?
No.
So she's using her.
I think they think it's the same. No.
So, what she's doing is losing her the
picture. No, but that's that's not the
same picture.
I think so.
Look at the eyes. No, you don't have to
be a member, but we want him to
look at the chin though.
The facial features. You don't like look
at the actual structure of the face
that we Well, he's got use your finger
scanner and let's find out who she is.
Oh, there you go. Try to get a name from
her first. Now, let's try to work with
one.
Yeah.
What's your name again? My name is
Emily. Okay. And your date of birth?
So, police officers, right? We try to um
identify everyone that we come in
contact with and stuff like that. So,
I'm running your information right now.
Right now, I'm having a little hard time
finding your information. Could be
because it's out of New Mexico. Possibly
could be the reason why. Um, we have a
fingerprint scanner that can do that.
It'll be expedite this, get you out of
here much faster. You good with doing
that? I guess. Yeah. So, we're just
going to grab them real quick. Okay.
Okay. Cool. Can I have my phone? No.
Just just until we're so So, so listen,
sweetheart. You're we're doing we're
conducting a criminal investigation
right now. So, right now, you are
detained and you cannot use your phone.
Okay? And I'm going to say this to you
as well. If you lie about your identity,
you're going to go to jail. Okay? Do you
understand me? I'm going to be straight
up with you. So, don't play this game
back and forth with us. All right? If we
give you We're going to I'm going to
have you give him your information. If
at any point you lie about it, which
we're going to find out cuz we're going
to scan you, you're going to go to jail,
right? It's as simple as that. There's
no other way around it. So, we
understood. So, this ID that you handed
me is you. No, it's not. It's not true.
No. What is your reality? My name is
Tabitha. Tabitha.
And your last name? So, she's using
somebody's real info. You understand?
That's a felony, right? Yeah. When you
use somebody's information, it comes
back to a real person, you have not
committed a felony crime. Okay. I'm just
making you very aware of that. I run
this
on explain to you. We're conducting an
investigation. But I just want to let
somebody listen, you're not letting me
be detained. You are detained 100%.
You're taking me to We don't know yet,
but you're not using your phone. You're
not going nowhere. I just want to let
someone It's not going to happen. No.
Okay. Okay. when you This is what you
decided to do. Now we're here. I know.
I'm sorry. Okay, but you're not using
your phone. Your phone is now in our
possession. I get it, but I just wanted
to let somebody know that I will be You
just need to sit tight and you need to
relax and you need to wait for us to get
done doing what we're doing. All right,
copy. Thank you. Yeah, she's using other
people's IDs. She just admitted to it.
What's up? She admits to it.
So, let me see if this comes back to
anyone. Where's Florida? She said
Florida. Go.
But if you want to use your fingerprint
for practice,
this way. Just trying to give you guys
the easier job so you guys can just dip
out. All right, Miss McGan.
All right. So, obviously, police
officers are here. So, obviously, we are
investigating. Correct. I'm not going to
lie to you. As of right now, I'm just
trying to figure out what's happening,
right? So, I'm going to ask you some
questions just to clarify. Just like how
I got their story, I want your story as
well. Right? Okay. I haven't made any
decision yet on what's going on. I just
want to understand fully what's going on
before I make a decision. Correct? Okay.
But before I ask you questions, I do
have to read you your rights. Okay.
Doesn't mean that any decision is made.
It's just something that I have to do
just to understand what's going on.
Okay. So, when I read you these
questions, I just need you to answer in
a yes or no. Okay? So, you have the
right to remain silent. Do you
understand? Yes. Okay.
No. Okay. So, what's going on? Um, I was
just doing this because I'm in like
financial stance and that's the only
reason why I did it. It wasn't like
something that I wanted to do. Okay. And
here I am. Your financial help. What
What gave you the idea to even do this?
Somebody made it sound so sweet like
just hearing it from other people and
and I was just like maybe I'll just take
a risk cuz it's something that I've
never done. I mean I don't do anything
like this. I don't never get in trouble.
I've never been in trouble. So, it's
like, you know, you follow the wrong
footsteps and here I am. Okay. Who Who
told you to do this? Just people like
I've heard people like doing it. I've
seen people doing it and like where like
how do you how do you see people cuz I'm
trying to say I've never seen anyone do
this. So, that's why I'm trying to like
figure out where are you where are you
seeing people do this? Like what I'm
saying like I've seen it like movies,
you know, like those are the type of
things. Okay. How many times How many
times have you done this? This is my
first time. I'm saying this is like my
first time. This is my first time. And
here I am. Like
So,
where are you getting these IDs from? It
was given to me. From who? It was given
to me from a person. I don't even know
him. Where did you find him? I didn't
find him. It was just like from a person
like and then they went to that person
and then it was just like they gave it
to me. So I understand it may be that
you're not trying to like throw
something under the bus, but like I
said, at the end of the day, we're
talking to you. We're not talking to
these other people. We're talking to you
and this story is not making any sense.
This person didn't just walk to your
house and say, "Hey,
here's this credit card. do this at the
bank cuz you need some extra cash. There
had to have been something set in
motion. No, no. Literally, that's how it
was. And I Someone just walked to your
house. No, no, no, no, no. The person,
the person, I met them one time. Okay.
One time and one time only. And then he
was like, "We can do this." And then it
was just like that. And then it was
super fast. And then I came today and
this is where I'm at. And I promise you,
I promise you, I've never been in
trouble. I've never done this before.
This is my first time. And I'm like,
"This is your first time." Okay. So,
listen. I'm very big on respect. You
tell me the truth. I tell you the truth.
Correct. You're saying this is your
first time. They have you using this
card yesterday to get another cash
advance yesterday. So, this is obviously
not your first time. That's why I'm
saying yesterday I came. That's why I
told the other officer I came yesterday
cuz I was coming to get the cash. Mhm.
And then this is my second time here
today because they told me that I could
do it.
No. That was it. And I was like, "Okay."
Well, and you're claiming someone just
randomly came up to you, gave you this
ID, this credit card, and said, "Hey,
guess that makes no sense." Where
Where's your car? Where's your Honda? My
car? Where's your Honda? It's not here.
Are you sure? I'm positive my car is not
here. You don't see it? I I understand
that cuz somebody's in it. No. No.
Nobody's in it. Where do you stay at? I
stay in in Varico. Where? Val Rico.
Where is that? Val Rico. Val Rico and
you coming all the way to Orlando. Yeah.
This is the closest fair winds to you.
Listen, do you understand? Like we we've
been doing this for a very long time,
right? All of us combined here over 20
years. Rico here. I'll tell you that
right now. Here's what's going to
happen. I already told you [ __ ] me
once. Stop talking. I promise. You took
an Uber from You took an Uber from
Varico to Atlanta. Yeah. Can you if we
That's your phone, right? Uber is
through an app. You can show us that you
booked an Uber. Uber. I didn't they
ordered me the promise. You You
understand how that seems? You're saying
a random person came to your house, gave
you this ID, gave you this credit card,
and now they're booking you a random
Uber. It's not a random person. Who is
he? That's what I'm saying. Explain it
to us. Person that I met one time.
You're about to take a rap for a whole
thing. Oh, I know. Okay. It's a person.
Okay. Well, get I'll tell you what.
Here's what's going to happen. So, you
drove an hour and 20 minutes to come to
Orlando for this. So here here's what's
going to happen and I'm going to I'm not
playing games with you right now. You're
going to jail. I'm sorry. You're going
to jail. Please don't. No, no, no. I'm
telling you now. You're going to jail.
Okay. So that's going to happen. So
here for me. All right. So here's what's
going to happen. You're going to jail.
He's
taking the front of the net. I'll get
you. Yeah. Okay. So listen, stop talking
for me. You're going to jail. That's it.
And then we're not even going to start.
We're not even looking at this anymore.
Okay. I don't want to go to jail because
I promise you I'll give you all what I'm
telling you is I don't want to get out I
don't know [ __ ] I've been doing this
too long I don't know. Okay. I'll be
very clear on this. You're not going to
go through your phone. If you will allow
us to go through your phone and you want
to get some numbers for him to take,
then we will investigate this further.
Okay. But other than that, you'll take
the whole damn rap and we're done. No, I
don't want to. No, Valerie. But you're
not you're not giving us any
information. Okay. But like can I get my
phone to give you What do you What do
you want to show us on your phone? You
want a number, right? I'm just trying to
give you. What's their name? How did you
meet them? No, I don't know. I met him
through a friend. I'm telling you, I'm
being Facebook. Was it Instagram? How?
No one just gets it random. Off the
street. Off the street. I met him off
the street. And why did he approach you?
Because like I told you, I was desperate
to to make money because I was in a
financial state and that was it. And
this is like my first time that I'm
actually making a move like this. Okay.
And Miss Pagan, again, the truthfulness
thing, right? So, Fairwinds has you
flagged, obviously, cameras and stuff
like that, facial recognition, all that
stuff like that. This is not your first
time, and I don't like being lied to,
just like Corporal Fabo does not being
lied to. He's been doing this a lot
longer than I have as well. He's done
deeper investigation than this. This is
pretty cut and dry. So, for you to lie
to us like that doesn't make any sense.
I'm lying to you. I promise you I All
you've done since we stepped out with
you was lie to us. You gave me this ID
in the beginning. I did because I was
scared. Obviously, I'm sorry. This isn't
the first time you've given someone else
ID. You've given other people's ID like
an ID out of New Jersey and stuff like
that. We have all of that doc we have
all of that documented on camera
and we're asking and we're asking for
you to just talk to us. Yeah. And I am.
But I'm promising this is not your first
time. No, I swear to God, this is my
first time. I've never had I've never
had another ID.
So, you have no idea who Emily Hancock
is? No. And you're just taking her
money? No idea. It was in her purse as
well. Yeah, because they they were I was
going to do the
the withdraw. That's it. You're just
going to take her money. Doesn't matter
what kind of financial crisis she's in,
right? It's only about yourself. I know.
And I did some mistake. I'm sorry.
Right. You weren't thinking about Emily
Hancock when you were taking her home. I
know. And I'm sorry. I was thinking
about myself and not anybody else. And
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. And you have no idea who this
person is or anything like that. Right.
Okay. What are you trying to give us
from your phone? You wanted the person's
number. And you have no idea. No face,
anything like that. No name. I don't
know. You don't even save his name under
his phone. Nothing. You all got text
messages, communications or anything.
So, how do you contact? Like, none of
that makes sense. I contact somebody
else. Somebody else contacts him with
me. I don't know if you got the money
for somebody else. How many other No,
no, no, no, no. That's my money order.
How many other IDs did they give you?
That's the only one. I promise you
that's the only one.
If you go with you have Yeah.
What part do you want to go with? And
what part do you want us? Uh, let's uh
most likely you are man. Can I let
somebody know to you at all
man or anything?
Can I let somebody know that I'm coming?
I don't know their numbers.
Here's the thing. The only way that
would concern us if you had minor
children that needed attendance and
that's it. You understand? I let
somebody know. She has two phones.
No, that one doesn't work. Well, you got
a message on something coming in for
you, right? It's because it's probably
connected to Wi-Fi.
No, no, no, no. It's probably connected
to Wi-Fi. All right. Listen, so taking
your stuff, there'll be an evidence and
it's going to be as simple as that.
Unfortunately, when you come to Orlando,
if you commit this stuff, you're going
to go to jail. Okay. Can I please let
someone know? Go to jail. Go to jail.
Can I write somebody's number down? At
this point, we cannot get it to your
phone because it is evidence. A lot of
different guys. My goodness. Your your
phone is is our evidence at this point.
We're not unlocking the airplane mode.
All right. We are now going to It's It's
in secure mode. We have to You can
contact the detective and they'll decide
whether or not you can get your phone
back. Okay.
Okay. I don't knowbody's number.
No, I'll get you uh I'll get you both
names. Thank you. Cash so I can't get
Thank you. I'm going Can I talk to you
outside for a second when we're
done? Thanks, sir.
Can I call somebody, please? At the
jail, they'll give you that opportunity.
Okay. I don't I don't know nobody's
number. They'll assist you in looking
that up. Okay. Who are you trying to
call? My mom or my sister or somebody,
please. Okay. What's their name in your
phone? It's my sister's under sister. My
mom's on their mama bear. Can I please
call somebody?
Please, I'm asking you. Are you giving
me Are you giving us permission to go
into your phone and your contacts to do
that? We'll come We'll bring it out here
and we'll do it once we figure it out.
Okay. Once we once we get a female
officer to search you, we'll go from
there. Okay. If you can do that and
let's see and just let go. Yeah.
When it comes to this stuff, can I go
off?
I'm going to look get your phone just
now. Okay.