how often do you think somebody hacks into someone's bank account and deposits money uh that'd be very rare she thinks it's all the time cause I gave him $5,000 this is cash and you gave it to this random guy that you don't know yes does that make a lot of sense to you it doesn't make any sense I know you're not I know you're not the main person okay I'm not the main person I'm not a person at all you're a participant that's the thing FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024 TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA OFFICERS RESPOND TO A FRAUD ALERT AT ENVISION CREDIT UNION SOMEONE DEPOSITED $10,000 INTO A YOUNG WOMAN'S BANK ACCOUNT SHE CAME TO COLLECT THE BANK CALLED IT FRAUD WHAT FOLLOWED RAISES CRITICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT MIRANDA PROCEDURE WILFUL BLINDNESS AND HOW OFFICERS BUILD A FRAUD CASE IN REAL TIME apparently they're in the branch the branch manager's office they're trying to prolong it where's the branch manager's office let me put your hands behind your back for me hold on can I hang up my phone back 6 7 right now you're just being detained pending the investigation you're not currently under arrest but you are being detained okay you have identification on you yes it's on my neck what's your name Quincy 6:44 dispatch I'll be on teletype which one y'all want it wasn't me okay it was probably some back office okay sorry okay uh did you need my card or anything anyway or I'm the manager uh that let me speak to you oh sure sure so we got a call from another yeah because I was trying to hold on to her okay okay and we were working together okay so it's probably um Jordan or Teresa okay it was my boss I got you too so I don't know which one did I got you so just give me a little bit of background on which is she alone who is she who else is she a lot of funds are being transferred to other accounts and they're coming but it appears that the other two ones like her that they're transferring through internet banking and then they're going to the branches and withdrawing this morning we had her account $10,000 was withdrawn from Clarence she's saying it wasn't her and now she's here to withdraw 10,000 there was another young lady that um was with her and left this morning saying she had to pick up her her child um but she also withdrew money too and they were they have been there's records okay but as far as her her right now what is it that she's done right now she uh she's trying to withdraw the 10,000 but she hasn't withdrawn anything no our risk and compliance department blocked it okay because they saw the scheme um because of the withdraw that was done on her account at collard this morning okay for 10,000 and now she's here to withdraw another 10 that was transferred from another account to hers in it through the internet okay so money's being trans yeah money's being transferred into her account right yes and um but she hasn't withdrawn anything yet she came in to withdraw it now have we can have we confirmed on the other end that she was she the individual that transferred the money into the account no she was not she said she said it wasn't so she's just here to withdraw money was deposited into her account this morning and she came here to withdraw it yes okay yes from another account in town okay so he said I was detained so you're not free to leave yeah I'm not trying to go nowhere but I need to call my mama cause this we're not calling anybody up here we can't call her so y'all can tell her that I'm probably gonna go to jail cause you I don't I ma'am I don't even know the story yet OK I hadn't asked you anything I hadn't talked to anybody I've been standing here with you what I'm saying what I'm saying is y'all killed my brother so I really don't feel comfortable around y'all at all so I rather call my mama so we can have this discussion'cause I'm really like how old are you I'm I'm grown okay but I still don't feel comfortable around the police that's your right and I I can't take that away from you right so that means I said but I'm a but me as an individual I'm gonna treat you with the utmost respect that's how I well I don't ma'am ma'am I I don't ma'am ma'am ma'am I don't know your brother I don't know the situation but I can give you the utmost respect you allow me that's not giving me respect cause you how you trying to belittle me right now that's belittling me how am I belittling you because I told you that my brother killed got killed by officer and I'm telling you I'm gonna give you the utmost respect but I'm also telling you that it's belittling me as well how I just told you well again I'm gonna try and give you the utmost respect what's your name I'm Sergeant Roberts I'm gonna try and give you the utmost respect I can I can only be as straightforward as I can that and and you you let me know that you're uncomfortable I am but I'm uncomfortable but I'm gonna give you officer standing over me but I'm gonna standing over me I'm gonna give you the utmost respect and I told you that and you're still standing over me so I'm telling you that I'm I'm very uncomfortable with the what would make you feel comfortable ma'am not standing over me well ma'am it's a small office I understand I'm just standing in the door but you're standing over me you can go stand over here no that's not how it works ma'am you don't get to dictate that it really is it's no it's called freedom of speech I know my rights well you got the right to say what you want but you don't get to dictate how things are handled I understand what you're saying freedom of speech gives you the right to say whatever you want however it does not give you to dictate how we conduct our criminal investigation I'm very very my anxiety should like would you like him as yes OK and I also would like my mother as well you see so there was another in the meeting Emma the cups to the front she said she's two months pregnant OK she said she's having an anxiety attack so I'm gonna push her OK you mess with me hey Miss Hardy um I need to ask you some questions um I'm sorry I don't know who Hardy is I'm sorry Miss Miss I'm sorry Miss Quintia Quintia OK can you face me sir I'm very I'm I'm sorry I'm very uncomfortable it's three officers standing over me and and and and and yeah okay they will y'all kill my brother that's I told you that you're smiling about it but it's not funny no no one's smiling ma'am it's funny it's funny to him it's funny to him I'm looking at him laugh every time I look at him he's smiling I don't I don't find something I'm not I'm not trying to find nothing I told you I told you exactly what it was the officer killed my brother so with that being said hey hey miss I'm not quite sure what's going on but um I'm Officer Baldwin and I would like to talk to you in reference to why I'm here okay but before I do that I have to read you and afford you your rights okay if I'm not detained why am I in the red right no you are detained that's the point you're detained that's why I'm reading you your rights I told you you're detained you're not under arrest but you are detained OK you have the right to remain silent anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law you have the right to an attorney having these rights in mind do you wish to talk to me but I don't have I don't have to talk to the police as well I don't have to say anything right that was my next question having these rights in mind do you wish to talk to me no I don't OK no what what is it that you wanna talk about though first PD 6:44 toe typing line sir I have a question mm hmm um my question so I got my brother got killed a couple years ago by the police so I really just don't feel comfortable you know um around the police or anything like that and if we if we're gonna if we're gonna be doing all this is there any way that I can call just call my mom so I can make sure that I'm safe no I I don't you're safe I don't feel safe you're safe I don't I don't and I'm supposed to feel safe and and if I don't feel safe I supposed to ask well I assure you you are safe sir how are you gonna tell me when Zachary Jones told my brother the same thing ma'am I'm not Officer Zachary Jones I'm Officer Baldwin I assure you that nothing is gonna happen to you while I'm here go ahead go ahead 10 full copy excuse me excuse me yes ma'am why did he take my phone cause you're detained and I don't want you making any phone calls right now I do your hands are in the front of you and I don't need you making any phone calls but my that's my personal property I understand that has been no because in law it says that I have to accept you to search me or anything like that it's not being searched ma'am nobody did I didn't ask nobody it's not being searched ma'am it's my phone though it's not being searched ma'am that's just like your phone getting taken from you okay well I'm not under a criminal investigation right now and I also have told this lady I didn't get no ATM withdrawals at all so how is that I'm on investigation okay and and I'm well ma'am you hold up you said you didn't want to talk after you read your Miranda so I can't ask you any questions alright okay THE SUBJECT WAS HANDCUFFED INSIDE THE BRANCH MANAGER'S OFFICE UNDER BURKIMER VERSUS MCCARTNEY HANDCUFFS ESTABLISH CUSTODY FOR MIRANDA PURPOSES OFFICER BALDWIN ADMINISTERED MIRANDA WARNINGS BEFORE ANY QUESTIONING THIS IS TEXTBOOK PROCEDURE UNDER MIRANDA VERSUS ARIZONA WITHOUT PRIOR ADVISEMENT CUSTODIAL INTERROGATION RENDERS ALL RESULTING STATEMENTS INADMISSIBLE AT TRIAL BALDWIN AVOIDED THAT TRAP ENTIRELY THE SUBJECT THEN INVOKED HER RIGHT TO SILENCE UNDER EDWARDS VERSUS ARIZONA ALL QUESTIONING MUST IMMEDIATELY CEASE UPON INVOCATION MINUTES LATER THE SUBJECT VOLUNTARILY REENGAGED SHE WANTED TO TELL HER SIDE THIS CREATES A DELICATE ADMISSIBILITY QUESTION BALDWIN READ MINISTERED MIRANDA AND OBTAINED A FRESH WAIVER BEFORE PROCEEDING THIS SATISFIES MICHIGAN VERSUS MOSLEY PRECISELY MOSLEY PERMITS REAPPROACH AFTER INVOCATION PROVIDED THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS HONORED AND A NEW VOLUNTARY WAIVER IS OBTAINED THE SUBJECT ALSO CHALLENGED THE SEIZURE OF HER CELL PHONE RAISING A LEGITIMATE FOURTH AMENDMENT CONCERN UNDER RILEY VERSUS CALIFORNIA 2014 POLICE CANNOT SEARCH A CELL PHONE WITHOUT A WARRANT THE SUPREME COURT WAS UNEQUIVOCAL HOWEVER TEMPORARY SEIZURE TO PREVENT EVIDENCE DESTRUCTION FALLS UNDER THE EXIGENCE CIRCUMSTANCES DOCTRINE AND REMAINS PERMISSIBLE IN AN ACTIVE FRAUD RING AN UNSECURED PHONE COULD ALERT CO CONSPIRATORS THE SEIZURE WAS LEGALLY SOUND THOUGH POORLY EXPLAINED you can close it up now I'm not EMS is here to get let's I'll get checked out how are you I'm alright she says she's having an anxiety attack because this man is standing over me OK okay um Cynthia am I able to give them information print outs on where the funds came from alright well let me just try to get this all set up let me cause what's more than likely gonna happen right now if if you guys can't provide me any of that information I'm just gonna have to write it up and forward it to the financial crimes division I won't be able to make an arrest on her just because I don't have enough information as far as where where it came from you know she's not talking so I can't you know I don't really have much other than the information from you guys yeah she said you talking let me let me pull that up then yes ma'am yes ma'am so elderly it's coming from the elderly members account and all these funds were cross referenced and transfers going to their accounts so what so so what what account is hers oh no this is just the the where the money originated from all these transfers are going to their accounts when you okay so just so we understand I'm specifically she's here now so I need to know what what's going on in her account yeah what's going into her account and what has she done today okay so I'll print hers so this is where it originated from through the internet I'm gonna print her starting from today or starting from the tenth to today well that's that's a direct deposit but yeah starting from the 10th these are going funds from this account have been going into her account actually they are going to cause there's it's a ring it's going to two other accounts and these other two are transferring to her through the internet OK let me give you the print out so I can you can see where the transfer but this is where the it originated from OK so money is going into her account and she's just coming to withdraw it right OK alright you can get me the print out um right I'll give you the print out as to the one but um she just with you 10,000 a colon and then was coming here to withdraw money 10 but withdrew 10 from her own account right so she provided you guys her driver's license and all of that she's saying she did not withdraw money from her account and that's what she's trying to put on pull the video for you to send it to you okay but even then as far as the withdrawal we don't have much there we have to pull all the other all the yeah let me give you the pronounce of the other one yeah'cause it's like I said it's a ring and they're all been transferring to each other through the internet okay it appears to me that they they got the older man's yeah we'll have to be able to prove all that stuff she just was like they had like 20,000 they spent like maybe 40,000 or something like that who's that I don't know who the person is I met them through like a family member cause I gave them $5,000 you know how they I didn't really know it was a scam thing but the dude he he he was like you give me 5,000 i'mma i'mma double it when I send it back so when he sent it back he was like okay well you can go get the money today I went to go get it just now and then they told my son the um cap it was um something about a fraud but then they called me maybe just morning or last night cause the Super Bowl was on so maybe last night the fraud agency called me and they was like we um they was like we have so many transactions and on this card um was this you and I told him I said no that wasn't me so when I got here this morning she pulled like a whole bunch of this like of like ATM um things and all this I'm like I don't know nothing about it like it wasn't me and I don't understand why we can't just pull the camera up and show that that wasn't me like I don't understand that cause it's a if it's a ATM but apparently the ATM ain't here it's must be somewhere else outside of Florida I don't go outside what I thought I overheard was in Tallahassee at another branch what it what's that what is a branch another bank yeah okay yeah that's what I thought I overheard was someone said that at another Invision Credit Union right someone today right withdrew I thought you said $10,000 right so then and then after that you come here no then no I heard then you came here right and that's a heck of a coincidence if you didn't right but sometimes like if I go to a public's ATM for example I didn't deal with much with cash anymore cause everything you pay with cards but it it might say you can only get 300 bucks out of this ATM but if I go to another ATM I get another 300 bucks and I don't know if that's because the ATM only has so much money I also know my account will only let me take out so much a day right so that that'll maybe an account too and then you come here and you're like well they're like wait a second you can only withdraw $10,000 a day from your account that's what I'm saying I don't understand how somebody drew out $4,000 in the last like three days like the last like she gave me a the dates she was like one happened on the 10th another one happened on the eighth I was like no the last time I used that card cause I haven't had the card since I bought the card so the last time I used the card you said you haven't how long have you had the account I had the I got the account I think February the first okay so I got it on the first I spent it that night we went to the Waffle House I spent $12 okay and the next morning I couldn't find the card no more you already able to print out the stuff that shows it going in the into this from her from the elderly okay from the elderly to the elderly to him and him too though right yeah the three of them he open it 1:31 and they both open it February 1st the day after okay and we definitely need like copies of those statements this is like evidence yeah that shows where I'm at yeah all these copies are are the statements these are the one that's here um she would drew that at Colin she and it's ready to withdraw that but these are also transfers especially this big one okay from his account okay which is showing here and oh right here okay I mean a very minimum we can charge her with bank fraud organized scheme and grand theft uh huh um as far as like she's concerned and he's concerned we'll have to follow up yeah with these two yeah just because I mean we're gonna have to talk to him too and we're gonna have to talk to her at some point mm hmm cause she came in with her just the way they went to Kalona with drew they were hoping to do the same thing here this guy here the elderly the 84 years old went to Quincy to file a dispute cause he didn't know what was going on with his account poor thing OK he didn't know how they got his yeah yeah yeah uh but there is a dispute and apparently he left with the paperwork because he said he had to have his wife Norma so yeah that's the 93 and I have 10 minutes hey I'm a fresh mind what do you mean I just ask your opinion if you got a moment you have like 10 seconds no a moment for your mind OK how I'm gonna ask you this question first how often do you think somebody hacks into someone's bank account and deposits money uh that'd be very rare she thinks it's all the time it's very rare this one is very rare no but you just said happens all the time I don't know I work I work I work nothing but financial cases with banks and money and stuff and it's not let me ask you a question sir okay now if somebody cause I I I I'm not really I'm I ain't even gonna lie me and computers I don't I don't do computers okay so well I interrupt him is this did I just screw something I I just wanna ask I was just getting back um they said that you invoked your rights so you don't wanna talk to us I don't wanna talk to him no okay so you are wanting to talk to me yes or no cause I'll read you your rights again and if you wanna talk to me that's fine um but I'll I'll just go ahead and do that OK and then you can make your discrimination if you wanna talk to me OK alright having these rights in mind do you wanna talk to me you don't have to it's it's up to you it's criminally but I just need a yes or no answer I guess yeah okay um so what do you want to tell me ain't nothing I want to tell you cause I didn't do nothing so you didn't do nothing right you're in handcuffs yeah in a bank because she said you were drawing a large amount of funds right that aren't yours sir I understand it sounds like what you were telling me was you met some guy right and he offered that if you gave him cash right he would give you more money and you think he's the one that put money in your account yes that's the sort of thing that like he's trying to figure out what the hell happened who's this guy see I don't know his name I know Jeff you can know him as Jeff she said Kevin I don't know a Kevin I know a I know him by how did you guys meet okay so one day I was standing um at the you know what were you you you know what I was standing at the corner center right hmm I was standing at the corner center okay when you know what that is I do I think this was the first February 1st so it gets everything you said the first of what February yes okay so he came in and he was talking to us it was like a couple of us who was in a group and he was like um y'all trying to flip your money and I was like I was like yeah because I had like something going on at the time I was trying to get a business off the ground so I was like yeah so he was like um well all you gotta do is go go put on a card in division so I did that I paid for the card and everything the $30 he said you gotta do what you gotta go get a vision card like an account you gotta open a vision account and he was like he was gonna send me the money whenever he get the money this is what happened just just to pause you where where did he say did he say where this money was coming from no he didn't okay he never told me so he was saying he was saying that he was gonna send you money for what reason to flip it what does that mean yes cause I gave him $5,000 this is cash that I gave him $5,000 and he's like I got this thing when did you give him $5,000 probably about three weeks ago what was that for for a business that I'm trying to do I'm doing hair and you gave it to this random guy that you don't know yes does that make a lot of sense to you it doesn't make any sense but i'mma tell you i'mma tell you though I wanna I wanna still tell you cause I feel like okay the day I got the car I went to the Waffle House with the car right ever since after that I never seen the car no more he has the car so whoever he has with him they're the one that's getting the money out the ATM and stuff it's not me when we go when y'all go into this investigation you're gonna see I guess the cameras or whatever that's not me that ain't me it's not you what about today what's going on today I'm here I'm here today they said that you was doing what they said that um it was something blocking or something like that so I came and talk to the lady and she was like well we we can't give you that amount today right and and that's how I that's why I'm here with y'all um do you know anybody else that this guy reached out to yeah I know a couple people that he's reached out to I can call a couple people you know their names off the top of your head um so one is Mike alright what is Jeff huh Jeff the first guy he's black he's black he's he's like Haitian or something like that or cause I'm pretty sure he Creole he's a Creole yeah okay yeah um what about the other person um I don't know her I don't know her last name but I know that's a female yeah I know her name what she look like she's about four maybe 11 five foot OK she's white female black female she's a black girl OK pretty girl she got pretty eyes see all these people stay in the corner that I know that anybody that he know I don't know them OK what's the girl's name key key K E y I don't know what it is specific for but I just I I met them at the store I mean at the shelter so I'm not really for sure what I just know Michael OK what were you coming here to withdraw the funds for see the day he called he said it was $10,000 on the card that's that's my money so I can get it off when I got here they said that they couldn't take it off so right that's why I was in there talking to the lady okay how do you normally have money how do you make money I work at Zaxby's and I have like my own hair salon at home okay does it sound like a legitimate way for some random guy that you barely know to pause at the time I ain't even gonna lie at the time because of the fact that I was in a like in a bad predicament or however it was I kind of went for whatever he said at the time but then he stole my card like to this day I still don't have my card well it sounds like he got you to open up the account right out of the agreement and then you gave him the card so he could utilize the account I didn't know anything about that sounds like you gave it to him I didn't I didn't give it to him I left it in his um car and then he said the next morning that he was gonna come back and he never showed back up um okay was this guy have any tattoos or anything that you remember I wouldn't even be able'cause he was really really black OK you got a phone number for him or anything or know where he stays at other than the current center it's not it ain't in my phone it's a out of town number um you know what it starts with I'm pretty sure it's probably on your on that account though it's a 5:01 number on your account okay would you use his phone number to know the account I put I signed up my name and then he called and he said something about he needed to switch the account it's in my email it's a 5:01 number 5:01 number okay we'll look at it um so okay um do you have any other accounts no I never had a credit card in my name ever other than my cash app that's it that's why I don't know nothing about this because I never had nothing going on like this before okay whenever you open up the account did he say that he was gonna let you I guess keep some of the money after you withdrew it no so like you deposit a large amount and you he said that he was gonna he said that he was gonna send me back my money that's what it was because I had got an attitude like all week I was like getting mad cause he was like cause the fraud agency had called me they called me and it was like um we see all these different transactions some of them was like bounced bounced or something like that and it was like some cause like you can go on the hotline and you can hear my whole conversation to this man I know y'all can so when I when I was talking to the man I'm telling him i'mma say sir I can't really understand you but he telling me he like you have like they trying to take some money off of ATM but it bounced this day right here then he said something about the fifth and I just everything from the first on back I never use that card like I never use the card but that first day when I want to go I got you um alright give us just a second alright I don't have any more questions for you thank you THREE FELONY CHARGES WERE FILED BANK FRAUD UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 655.0322 A SECOND DEGREE FELONY ORGANIZED SCHEME TO DEFRAUD UNDER SECTION 817.034 THE STATE MUST PROVE A SYSTEMATIC ONGOING COURSE OF CONDUCT AND GRAND THEFT UNDER SECTION 812.014 THE DEGREE DEPENDS ON THE AGGREGATE VALUE OF STOLEN PROPERTY THE EVIDENCE PATTERN WAS CLEAR MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS OPENED ON THE SAME DAY ELECTRONIC TRANSFERS FROM AN 84 YEAR OLD VICTIM COORDINATED CASH WITHDRAWALS UNDER THE WILLFUL BLINDNESS DOCTRINE CLAIMING IGNORANCE IS NOT A VIABLE DEFENSE WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES DEMAND REASONABLE INQUIRY THE SUBJECT OPENED AN ACCOUNT AT A STRANGER'S DIRECTION SURRENDERED THE CARD AND ARRIVED DAYS LATER TO WITHDRAW $10,000 SHE NEVER EARNED BALDWIN'S INTERVIEW TECHNIQUE WAS SURGICALLY EFFECTIVE ONE QUESTION EXPOSED THE ENTIRE DEFENSE DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO GIVE 5,000 TO A STRANGER THE SUBJECT'S ADMISSIONS NOT THE BANK RECORDS NOT THE TRANSFER LOGS BECAME THE PROSECUTION'S STRONGEST EVIDENCE AGAINST HER FLORIDA ALSO RECOGNIZES EXPLOITATION OF ELDERLY PERSONS UNDER STATUTE SECTION 825.103 ENHANCING PENALTIES FOR VICTIMS OVER 65 so um no you can be very like general as far as um as long as you have this guy's information just say that um in for invasion for her and for the statements and everything the victims so David funds cause it is the same as show um account numbers so that's how you're able to identify account numbers transfer from Grippy's account directly into his it says transfer from account this to account this hey so you are gonna be charged today and you're gonna be taken to jail so you are arrested so what's the charges you getting bank fraud organized scheme to defraud and then grand theft okay so obviously you know that's what's gonna have to happen um if I got any questions I got your information um I'll give you my card if you want to tell me anything else but maybe you didn't want to tell me today is there anything inside here I need to be aware of there's some drugs in there what kind of drugs just marijuana OK change the we talking under 20 grams yeah I ain't worried about that I ain't worried about that sir is this felony charges they all are uh huh yeah bank fraud is a second degree organized scheme it's probably gonna be a second degree as well because of the amount that was taken in the process and then Grand Theft and then Grand Theft 1 might be as well I mean frauds very serious I understand what you're saying you're messing with people's bank accounts and transferring a lot of money I'm not doing nothing like that with nobody's stuff I do for me like I don't know about nobody else that's just that's just $5,000 right there from you can count it and where is it from though it's from a bank it's from a bank from your account 3:30 the Chevy or the Dodge right you would do it there's actually three vehicles involved so that's gonna be in time I think that's gonna be in time because he was trying to play me about my money well yeah you agreed to participate in the scheme I didn't I never knew it was a scheme sir I'm not gonna lie to you about that I only went to one and that was just more that was it I never went nowhere else so if it's something that he did outside of me all that ATM and all these money that's all that money that's missing I never got that that's the only thing I got right there oh I disagree cause if you didn't know that you open I never knew cause you can call somebody right now and I'm telling you look you knowingly opened up a bank account I didn't know you gave him you gave him the card and then days later you know there's large amounts of funds in there and that's when you're trying to withdraw I never knew that I swear to god on everything I love I never knew that what I know is he was supposed to give me back my money he never gave me back my money so I called him and then that's when the fraud hotline called me and said that it was missing like $40,000 ain't no way in hell you missing $40,000 if I never took it out I never took it out it wasn't me well the video says otherwise and that's why you're here today but that that's that's separate money sir I know how how can y'all how can y'all take my money from we're taking we're taking this one cause it's not your money the envision one an envision envelope that's my money cause I gave it to him and I got my money back from him you right it's withdrawn from an account that I didn't know that I mean so what is y'all gonna do with the other half all this stuff will get impounded except for the toiletries all that stuff is getting thrown away but but i'mma talk okay listen the little $80 right there that's going to that's getting impounded so y'all gonna take the money and put it inside the jail no no this is impounded all I'm supposed to go to the police department with me so it's gonna be impounded into evidence so once evidence take over y'all have somebody that comes and get y'all get comes and get it from the sheriff's office we're not the sheriff's office we're TPD we're up here yeah we're TPD totally different that's crazy that's really crazy yeah totally different so um I'm not gonna charge you with this I could but I'm not um say it again I'm sorry no go ahead say what you gonna say I was talking about something else oh OK you gonna say go ahead and charge you with it no I was gonna say I was gonna say it's crazy I didn't know that they did oh okay alright you ready I know you're not I know you're not the main person okay I'm not the main person I'm not a person at all you're a participant that's the thing THE GRADES SERGEANT ROBERTS RECEIVES A B+ EFFECTIVE DE ESCALATION WHEN THE SUBJECT EXPRESSED FEAR OF POLICE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HER EMOTIONS WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE INVESTIGATION MINOR CONCERN SOME CONVERSATIONAL EXCHANGES OCCURRED BEFORE OFFICER BALDWIN FORMALLY ADMINISTERED MIRANDA WARNINGS OFFICER BALDWIN RECEIVES AN A MINUS CORRECT MIRANDA ADMINISTRATION PROPER HANDLING OF THE RIGHTS INVOCATION AND A TEXTBOOK REAPPROACH SATISFYING MICHIGAN VERSUS MOSLEY HIS LOGICAL NON COERCIVE QUESTIONING EXTRACTED ADMISSIONS THAT AGGRESSIVE INTERROGATION LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE PRODUCED ONE IMPROVEMENT THE PHONE SEIZURE DESERVED A BRIEF EXPLANATION TO THE SUBJECT RATHER THAN A FLAT REFUSAL TO DISCUSS IT INVISION CREDIT UNION RECEIVES AN A THEIR COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT DETECTED THE FRAUD IN REAL TIME BLOCKED THE WITHDRAWAL AND DELIVERED ORGANIZED DOCUMENTATION THAT ESTABLISHED PROBABLE CAUSE ON SCENE THE SUBJECT RECEIVES A D SHE INVOKED HER FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT CORRECTLY THEN ABANDONED IT DELIVERING A DETAILED ACCOUNT THAT PLACED HER INSIDE THE FRAUD RING EVERY STATEMENT OPENING THE ACCOUNT SURRENDERING THE CARD ARRIVING TO WITHDRAW BECAME A BUILDING BLOCK FOR THE PROSECUTION A COMPETENT DEFENSE ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE ADVISED ABSOLUTE SILENCE HER OWN WORDS BECAME THE EVIDENCE SHE COULD NOT ESCAPE THREE LESSONS FROM THIS CASE FIRST MIRANDA REAPPROACH PROTOCOL MATTERS SCRUPULOUSLY HONORING AN INVOCATION AND READMINISTERING RIGHTS PROTECTS EVERY SUBSEQUENT STATEMENT'S ADMISSIBILITY SECOND FINANCIAL CRIME INVESTIGATIONS DEMAND PATIENCE OFFICER BALDWIN CONSIDERED DEFERRING THE CASE BEFORE THE BANK'S RECORDS MADE AN ON SCENE ARREST VIABLE THIRD WILLFUL BLINDNESS ELIMINATES THE IGNORANCE DEFENSE WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES DEMAND INQUIRY AND A PERSON DELIBERATELY AVOIDS IT CRIMINAL LIABILITY ATTACHES PARTICIPATING IN A SCHEME EVEN AS A RECRUITED MULE CARRIES THE SAME FELONY EXPOSURE AS ORCHESTRATING IT UNDER FLORIDA LAW LET US KNOW IF THERE IS AN INTERACTION OR LEGAL TOPIC YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DISCUSS IN THE COMMENTS BELOW THANK YOU FOR WATCHING AND DON'T FORGET TO SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE CONTENT ON POLICE AND COURT INTERACTIONS