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based on this being private property it's not it's public it's not it is public it's owned by the city that that doesn't mean it's that doesn't mean it's open to the public especially right now it's part of the park which is why it's open to the public 8 10 0 9 is the Florida statute for trespass I'm aware of it are you do you know who owns this property it's open until midnight I have the right to be here I think I should have been a firefighter yeah I think you should have too because you s*ck as a cop he has asked you to leave already that's a warning so you've already been warned and you're still here you can be arrested for that I don't wanna have to arrest you this is public property this guy's threatening me would you please call your supervisor would you mind doing that yeah I'll do that what uh on October 20th, 2024 Clearwater police responded to a soccer stadium adjacent to Ruth Eckerd Hall in Clearwater Florida a woman identified as Christine Scott had entered a fenced area on city owned property and refused multiple requests to leave the footage raises four distinct legal questions the validity of the trespass charge the lawfulness of the arrest the post arrest search and the right to counsel it's my understanding this gentleman's asked you to leave is that a problem I don't think I have to right yeah you do have to based on what uh based on this being private property it's not it's public it's not it is public it's owned by the city that that doesn't mean it's that doesn't mean it's open to the public especially right now it's part of the park which is why it's open to the public even right now not this area this area is clearly fenced in the fence was open so that you could get in and um I've worked here on several nights the security guy knows that I come here and work and it's never been an issue it I I understand that it might have been OK in the past can I see your ID real quick I don't have to show it to you and why if you leave right now you don't have to show it to me he's asked you to leave so technically you've already he does I run the building he does have the authority what's your I thought you said you were the tech guy that sound I'm the technical director I run the building you don't need to listen ma'am just talk to me just just he doesn't talk to get aggressive and he's even he's not getting aggressive he's not getting aggressive I said I'm getting aggressive he's not getting aggressive he is but he's not supposed to will you listen to me we might be able to listen listen very carefully to what I'm saying he has warned you I'm I'm recording too it's okay b R a N I f f yes ma'am he has asked you to leave already three times right that's a warning so you've already been warned and you're still here you can be arrested for that I don't want to have to arrest you this is public property this guy's threatening me would you please call your supervisor would you mind doing that yeah I'll do that thank you very much let's okay that now it say it again it's public property you're mistaken alright hey sir hey sir can you uh can you go see see if the other units there thank you very much okay I appreciate it I'm sorry we're having this disagreement or this it's okay um a difference of opinion on it it's okay I know it is public property I know that if you look it up you'll see that it's public property no this is closed you can tell it has a lock on it not going in kind of like the library right but this isn't and um so if the library's doors are locked if the library's doors are locked and you go inside and you refuse to leave is that trespassing in your mind see this isn't locked this isn't locked that's not what I asked you that's not what I asked you comparing apples to apples you're comparing apples hey hey sir sir sir sir sir I I got it I got it thank you so this isn't like that because this is part of a public park that's open till midnight so there's a huge difference there this is outside I'm not like going into a closed place right this is open and there's nothing that says I can't be here we know it's part of the park we legitimately listen it's very it listen it's very important other parts of the park okay it's time for you to listen I've been listening now it's time for you to listen it's very important that you do what I tell you okay oops it's very important that you follow commands now turn around face that way face that way put your hands behind your back why don't fight do not fight I'm not fighting you've been warned multiple times I've given you multiple chances to leave and you will not do it this gentleman has authority I'm sorry you could have walked away I asked him to call a supervisor we don't need a supervisor man he said that he would call a supervisor and so I was waiting for him to call the supervisor no you leave when you're told to leave Florida Statute Section 810.09 defines criminal trespass on property other than a structure as willfully remaining after being warned to depart by an authorized representative of the owner three elements must be satisfied the area must not be open to the general public at the time of the offence an authorised representative must issue a clear warning and the subject must wilfully refuse to depart the statute does not require posted signage the warning itself is the legal trigger what it does require is that the property be legally closed to public access at the time this is the central dispute Scott argued the fenced soccer field was part of Coachman Park a city owned public park open until midnight the technical director claimed exclusive authority over the space under a contractual arrangement with the city neither party produced documentation on camera Florida courts have distinguished between enclosed structures and outdoor areas that are functionally open as part of adjacent public property whether this fence field falls on the restricted or open side of that legal line is a genuine threshold question one that determines whether probable cause for the arrest existed at all at three minutes and 17 seconds Officer Braniff initiated the arrest before examining whether it was lawful one procedural fact demands attention at 32 seconds on the body cam Braniff explicitly agreed to call a supervisor when Scott requested one Scott remained on scene specifically in reliance on that agreement Brannock then arrested her two minutes and 45 seconds later without the supervisor present Florida law does not require officers to summon supervisors before making an arrest however Braniff's agreement created a reasonable expectation in Scott that enforcement action would be deferred a court evaluating whether her continued presence constituted wilful refusal to depart would be entitled to consider that expectation The Fourth Amendment requires probable cause for a warrantless arrest if the property's legal status under the trespass statute is ambiguous that ambiguity directly undermines the probable cause determination a supervisor review on scene could have resolved this before arrest or this happens well actually I think you have to call your supervisor no would you please call your supervisor my badge what you told me you were gonna call your supervisor and I was waiting for you look at like I don't like what is wrong with like the way you're acting like now you're going to jail have you ever been in jail before yeah it s*cks you could have just walked away everything could have been fine why didn't you just call your supervisor why did you li* to me and tell me you were gonna call your supervisor when you didn't ma'am none of that matters yes it does matter you have protocol and you have to follow it come on let's walk oh 1:05 one adult female 10:00 15 you don't want you can't be one step through my stuff you don't have permission well you don't need it come on come on come on be careful going down the stairs please uh huh we're going through it so it's irrelevant just walk down the stairs come on what's your name Hartman Hartman Hartman H a R t I want you to call your supervisor after Scott was handcuffed Officer Hartman conducted an inventory of her personal belongings Scott objected continuously claiming the officers had no right to search her property the law does not support that objection the Supreme Court established in Illinois versus Lafayette in 1983 that inventory searches of an arrestee's personal property are a recognized exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement the purpose is administrative to catalogue items prevent theft claims and identify hazards the search requires no consent from the RSD on this specific issue the officers acted within established constitutional parameters the most serious constitutional concern in this footage emerges at 9 minutes and 48 seconds when Scott states unambiguously she wants a lawyer she repeats this demand multiple times over the following minutes The Supreme Court held in Edwards versus Arizona in 1981 that once a suspect invokes the right to counsel all interrogation must cease until an attorney is present or the suspect voluntarily reinitiates communication Officer Braniff continued asking Scott for her middle name Social Security number and date of birth after her attorney invocation these are not passive identification checks they are interrogation questions Florida's stop and identify framework requires a person to provide their name upon lawful arrest Scott had already provided a photo ID the demands for additional personal data exceeded that statutory threshold Brannon's threat to add an obstruction charge for Scott's refusal to supply her Social Security number and middle name reflects a misapplication of Florida statute section 843.02 which addresses physical obstruction not refusal to answer interrogation questions the continued questioning after a clear and repeated attorney invocation represents a potential Sixth Amendment violation under Edwards versus Arizona this is the most legally significant error in this footage come on you promised me you would we're going to the car you told me you were calling your supervisor I was waiting for you to call your supervisor let's go this way alright it's fine you don't need to we don't need a supervisor no yeah you do we don't you're off I've been doing this for 10 years today is my 10th year happy anniversary thanks 10th year this is public land I just want to eat my public sandwich and I have tried three times and I haven't and I I have a bag of m m's and I haven't had sugar all day long and I care about the m m's I do I know I don't have to well it's a fact thank you though well I was under the impression that you do have to and you know what he told me he told me he was going to OK well I'm so why would he tell me he's gonna go he's a newer officer I'm a senior officer and I'm telling you no yeah but you arrested me based on something that he said he was that's called a good faith supervisor oh my gosh there's mosquitoes in here let's go this way so he l*ed to me no he just so that you could arrest me no oh my god you're wild seriously ma'am this is I'm what I'm wild this is way too much you're wild I'm this is way too much for all this you could have just left no you could have just here's the difference call your supervisor like you said you were going to I didn't even hear any of that and it doesn't matter well he did and he should have told you you're not his boss you need to call your supervisor you're an adult too I'm asking you to call your supervisor no you don't need a supervisor yes I do need you to call a supervisor for what is that a supervisor no that's Sunstar that's what that's Sunstar would you please call your supervisor ma'am I don't know why you want to talk to my supervisor I'm searching you I'm not used to people grabbing my boobs I'm not gonna grab your boobs I'm searching you well you need to tell me when you're putting your hands on my chest you're right now you're under arrest I understand oh you told me you were gonna call your supervisor everything because I was waiting for you come on to contact your supervisor let's have a seat you said he was coming or she was coming oh see thank you so very much hi I know that was a joke haha please sit down this is too many words thank you yes it could have like all you had to do was just leave all you had to do was call your supervisor and see if I needed to leave but you don't wanna do that you wanna play games this guy is out of control now he's going through my stuff without my permission his name is Braniff B R a N I F F her name is Hartman all right let's make sure the AC I want you to call your supervisor I have not violated the law yeah I got that part that is oh well then you shouldn't have arrested me is this a false arrest no I mean I got the part about the supervisor then why didn't you do it look I need you refused to call your supervisor when I asked you to now he's going through my stuff Brandon he's going through my stuff how r*de and he's laughing as he pulls out my stuff he doesn't have the right to search me he doesn't have the right to go through my stuff I ate all my almonds and I keep the baggies and so he's looking at the baggies that I I uh I'm not after I eat them so this is not a violation for the statue 8 10.09 hey ma'am will you give me your name I'd like you to call your supervisor okay you have to give me your name if you don't give me your name I'm gonna charge you with obstruction my name on that ID that you just picked up it has my name on it do you have a photo ID just rummage through my belongings without my permission you have no right to go through my stuff she's hoping it's almonds Christine Scott I keep the bags I have given you my I didn't actually go to you so you're going through my stuff you guys are t*rrible if his supervisor can hear this I have asked for a supervisor and I expect the supervisor to show up it's a chain of command and he has an obligation when a person asks him for a supervisor and I asked that Lady Hurtman are you guys so police officers or detectives what are you police and he's a police officer so she's an officer throwing through my glasses and everything these people are h*rrendous I don't answer questions from cops especially ones that won't call their supervisor but you might need to OK I'm gonna charge you what's your thought I'm gonna charge you with obstruction you have an ID in your hand I don't have an ID that is not you that picture right there that is not who maybe like 30 years ago I'm asking for your identity you have to give me that you're under arrest I don't know um I want are you kidding me I want my lawyer are you kidding me I want my lawyer I'm serious and I want my lawyer I want you to call your supervisor I'm not kidding you you have an obligation I don't answer questions from the cops especially ones that have illegally arrested me and won't call their supervisor you have a chain of command if I ask you to call your supervisor you're obligated and they asked Hartman to call her supervisor as well do you have a middle name neither of these people will call do you have a middle name I told you I want a lawyer I don't have to talk or say anything after I've asked for a lawyer that's the law you've arrested me you have to identify yourself you have my ID in your this I don't know that this is you this guy has his ID in my hand you put this here I don't know that this is you and this name that it says on here is Christine Scott I'm not trying to insult your intelligence but there's probably 20 Christine Scotts within five miles of us did I tell you you did not give me your social you did not give me a middle name you did not give me your address not I'm charging you with obstruction go ahead yeah I will no kidding you're not very nice I want your supervisor j*rk he's a j*rk you couldn't hear me close the door but he is a j*rk there's no sign that says I can't be there this is a false arrest if you wanna play that way this is false impr*sonment you don't have the right this is a public park how h*rrible are you not h*rrible h*rrible I said not h*rrible yeah well so does the d*vil there is nothing here no sign that says I can't go in there this is a false arrest that's what this is understand what that ramification is that guy had no authority and you don't have the authority to do this either 8 10 0 9 is the Florida statute for trespass I'm aware of it are you do you know who owns this property it's open until midnight I have the right to be here you have me under false impr*sonment right now and she's st*aling my stuff and you're threatening me and refusing to call your supervisor you are the d*vil I have not violated it he does not have the authority here what's is that just her that meal ID does it have a birthday on it no call your supervisor Christine Scott n o I've been going through false arrest fake news no that's real news fake news really yes no sign says I can't be there not at one OK and this park is open till midnight is there false arrest that's not a part of the park yes it is no it's not it absolutely is why do you think there's the Ruth Eckerd Hall contracts with the park and with the city it is most certainly part of the look up planning and look up zoning it is I've been here since the ground broke at this park I don't care well that doesn't mean it's not part of the park it just means that you're ignorant to the law on this fact that's all miss st*aling my stuff I'm glad you think that's funny I don't did you know the Yankees are going to the World Series I couldn't care less have you been to the penal's county jail before I don't answer questions I already asked for a lawyer are you Christine's I asked for a lawyer I want a lawyer call one at the jail and once I ask you for a lawyer you need to stop asking me questions we're trying to violate my rights this is no false impr*sonment you are exhausted you are the like I haven't had someone as exhausted I don't care I know you don't I don't care for you at all you are ignorant in my opinion of the law on this matter and you are violating my rights and you're wasting my time when I've got stuff to do I got stuff to do too I could care less well I don't care about your stuff well you're wasting my oh really what no kidding no kidding you've been on the force for 10 years I'm going after your pension can't because this is a violation of your oath no it's not oh I know you don't care about it sweetie I didn't it's obvious I don't care I just said it's not it's just like Christine Scott just put her name as Jane Doe forget it and put an alias as Christine Scott I've never done it Jane Doe I'm not playing hardball you are you have me illegally cuffed you're illegally arresting me this is a false impr*sonment and you're refusing to call your supervisor when you have a legal obligation what is wrong with you what do you need a supervisor for I told you I won't cause you're violating the law and you don't have the right to and you need to contact your supervisor about it and you're refusing you're a problem he tells me he's gonna call a supervisor and then when I'm waiting for a supervisor he arrests me like a ps*cho n*t ps*cho that was a total setup and you should never have done that I didn't say I wouldn't leave I said call the supervisor it's the jail's problem citizenship shoot Dang it citizenship is required it's an odd this is false impr*sonment hey are you busy I will sue you for false impr*sonment and for st*aling my stuff there is nothing here that says I can't go there there's no sign you're t*rannical you said you were gonna call your supervisor and then you arrested me you l*ed to me you made me stay thinking you were gonna call your supervisor so that you could turn around and arrest me you're h*rrible did you call your supervisor I did what's your birthday it's about time what's your birthday where's my lawyer that's not required on scene if you knew and weren't ignorant you would know that a lawyer is not required on scene as a part of police I don't work for the government I'm a citizen got him yeah you don't have a lawyer the judge appoints a lawyer Christine now you have to tell me your birthday because I kept my end of the deal oh no deal it wasn't a deal it's an obligation oh you have an obligation you have an obligation to give me a birthday cause you're under arrest yes what no no let's go what's the I catch you show me the law I don't believe she's got a point there she's got a point there you can't win the word game with me Christina I've been playing it for a decade you know what's the law that says that okay we'll charge you with obstruction you're refusing to walk out with an investigation I'm not worried about it oh I know you're not they'll drop it no because I haven't obstructed anything you're obstructing my public sandwich your public sandwich yeah you're you're obstructing my constitutional rights and you took an oath to uphold them 8 7 6.05 you're the oath you took which trumps your constitutional right when you violate the law Christine shoot dang it say that again shoot dang it no they're not she's digging it the other stuff I think you're wrong I'm not you can think a lot of things wish in one hand and think in the other and see which one fills up first uh huh how's that working for you I'm here on I don't I only provide facts no sign that says that I couldn't be there Christine there doesn't have to be a sign there's a man that man right there's a representative and he said go and you don't listen how do you know he's a representative he is he works here he's screaming at me cause he works here Christine how do you know cause he said so there's no proof I have no proof of that OK it's just a n*sty guy he's being aggressive you know what that means nothing to me you're winning nothing in the back seat in handcuffs you realize that right you won zero you won nothing I'm going to sue you you're not gonna win that either why because you're so c*rrupt you'll make sure it doesn't happen'cause that's the way you guys roll no yeah Christine that is how you roll you know what I think I think I should have been a firefighter yeah I think you should have too because you s*ck as a cop you just met me what do you mean yes I know and in the short period of time I'm quite sure that you're a h*rrible police officer that is very r*de Christine no it's accurate it's r*de because well my you're r*de no no considering you illegally put me in handcuffs it's not r*de considering that you have k*dnapped me it's not r*de considering you didn't have the right to arrest me it's not r*de since 2,009 you are r*de I don't like you you don't have to like me I know alright I'm sharing that and I feel better about it and I don't like him either he l*ed to me he said he was gonna call his officer and he didn't he's a liar and she's st*aling my stuff Christina I'm not st*aling your stuff bro she's alone you know what you have sold my stuff you've k*dnapped me and you this is false impr*sonment so I don't really care what you have to say it doesn't seem to me I just need to know based in reality and you are violating my constitutional rights to be so angry at the world I'm not angry at the world at all but you seem to have some control issues and you are violating the law and you're not allowed to oh you wanna talk about control issues I have no control issues Christine clearly you do and you're wearing your pants also he told me he was gonna call a supervisor he doesn't call a supervisor he puts me in handcuffs while I'm waiting for a supervisor really n*sty of him to do he puts me in handcuffs when there's no nothing that says I can't be there nothing the park's up until 10 there is no sign anywhere that says you can't be there I have a total legal right to be there just cause some guy comes up Christine guess what you don't care no the supervisor's here oh good oh good Christine but you gotta give him your birthday otherwise you can't talk to him I don't have to do anything I asked for a lawyer you you don't get a lawyer on scene of everybody but you asked for the supervisor you did you didn't keep your end of the deal Christine he's not a lawyer that was very you didn't I know if we shook hands Christine that would that wouldn't work Christine come on you are way too old to be acting like this you're violating my constitutional rights I don't think I have any obligation to discuss it with you do I OK this is illegal this is an illegal arrest I he was gonna he tells me he's gonna call you I asked him to call you he says I'm gonna call you and then he arrest me doesn't call you it's like why would you do that well did he ask you to leave I said hang on just answer my question did he ask you to leave did they ask you to leave supervisor stop did he ask you to leave so what we're gonna do you're not gonna answer my question before I have a I asked for a lawyer are you allowed to ask for question I can ask you I'm not asking you anything that can be used against you because you asked to speak with me as a supervisor anything that you talk to me can't be used against you because you've already asked for the so I asked to speak to you I'm asking you not to answer questions that's not what I asked you can put the window up we're done there is nothing that says I couldn't be here are you doing Jane Jane Doe there is nothing that says I could not I'm just doing Jane Doe alias Christine Scott that is my ID Christine Scott I said that is my ID there's a ton I said that's me I'm going to sue you I'm going to sue you hey Christine I know you I know you got a lot of animosity animosity towards me but be nice to this other gentleman okay don't tell me what to do I'm telling you to be nice I'm ordering you to be nice throughout the encounter Scott directed sustained verbal criticism at Officer Braniff calling him a liar a j*rk and a h*rrible police officer under the First Amendment every word of it was constitutionally protected The Supreme Court confirmed in city of Houston versus hill in 1987 that speech directed at law enforcement including profane and insulting language is protected expression officers cannot lawfully arrest a person for verbal criticism Brandeis did not attempt to charge Scott for her speech that restraint was legally correct and prevented what would otherwise have been an independent First Amendment violation according to information presented at the conclusion of the source footage Christine Scott was charged with criminal trespass under Florida Statute Section 8 to 10.09 court disposition was not available at the time of this analysis based on the legal record the charge faces a viable defense challenge the ambiguity in the property's legal classification gives competent defense counsel a direct path to attacking the probable cause foundation of the arrest a Section 1983 civil rights claim is also available to Scott if she can establish that the arrest was made without probable cause under Manelle versus department of Social Services municipal liability could attach if the arrest reflects a pattern of constitutionally deficient enforcement Officer Braniff receives a C plus the initial stop and warning were legally grounded his use of force was proportional and his composure was maintained throughout a prolonged verbal confrontation these are genuine credits however arresting Scott immediately after promising to call a supervisor created a procedural defect that a defense attorney will exploit directly more critically continuing interrogation after repeated and unambiguous attorney invocations is a Sixth Amendment failure that is difficult to defend Officer Hartman receives a B the inventory search was conducted under lawful authority the legal framework was followed the deduction comes from professional conduct dismissive demeanor during a custodial inventory does not meet the standard of respectful property handling that the procedure exists to ensure Christine Scott receives a C her legal knowledge was demonstrably above average she correctly identified the trespass statute by number invoked her fifth and Sixth Amendment rights clearly and understood that her speech was constitutionally protected she did not physically resist arrest the correct decision however the proper remedy for a disputed trespass warning is compliance followed by civil litigation not a 20 minute on scene confrontation with patrol officers who lacked authority to rule on the underlying property law question a Section 1983 claim filed after a lawful departure would have been far more powerful than anything accomplished on camera the technical director receives a B+ his warning to Scott satisfied the statutory element under Florida statute section 8 to 10.09 and his conduct remained non violent throughout the deduction comes from his failure to clearly establish his authority over a space whose legal status was genuinely ambiguous on camera documentation of his credentials and the facility's contractual plaided relationship with the city would have removed the probable cause ambiguity entirely three lessons apply across this encounter first when property status is legally ambiguous arrest is a last resort not a default the trespass statute requires willful refusal to depart from a legally restricted space when the restriction itself is contested the probable cause analysis is unsettled officers operating in ambiguous property law situations should request supervisory review before making an arrest second a verbal agreement to call a supervisor is not procedurally neutral once made that agreement creates a reasonable expectation in the subject acting contrary to it particularly by making an arrest will be scrutinized in any subsequent Fourth Amendment challenge to probable cause third invocation of the right to counsel is a hard stop under Edwards versus Arizona questioning must cease upon a clear and unambiguous attorney request it is not a request to negotiate it is not a request to pause it is a constitutional command to stop continued questioning after invocation creates suppression exposure and potential civil liability regardless of the underlying arrest's validity let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic that you would like us to discuss in the comments below thank you for watching and don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more content on police court interactions
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