She got him again at 204. Where exactly is our caller? And you want me to go up front? So these uh yeah, if you can. If they want to speak with you Um But you'll be up there? Uh yeah, I'm going to run to the back. >> Okay, great. Okay, that sounds good. All of this was uh the guy that That's what he was all of this. Did he push it out? Yeah, past the EAS tower is past the bathroom and last time. Was that just like very like that last time I saw you in the vestibule? Was that that time or was that before that? Uh Nice one. Did you see Did you see him in the vestibule? Yeah, like not even like 10 minutes ago when you were still chasing him around before you started chasing him around the store. Yeah. Uh you guys came out to the vestibule. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's That's at that point. Okay. Past the bathrooms. Okay. And then And that is that the total right now so far? >> Yeah, this is 1,600. But I I would wait for my report for the total because I don't know You guys tell me to put it without tax, but either way it's cool. Okay. Let's look at the camera footage real quick before we do anything just to confirm Yep. that they did in fact I mean Cuz we got two potential people, right, who took items. Yeah. Um I didn't see the other group, the family. I just the lady that was with me saw that and she told me called me while I was on the phone with dispatch. So she saw the first group go out the store. Okay. She called me. I was on the phone with dispatch. She said that that family just went out with a full food with a full cart cart of clothes. No, I don't know. I don't think the dispatcher's not Yeah, but I I had watched him. Yeah. I don't know that. I'm going to have to figure out Nobody's here to book market at what time final And 911 call was 7:15, 14, so I apologize. You're good. Matt just left. So he's out the doors, past the bathrooms. You stop him and he says what? He says I don't know if it's discombobulated. No, man. No. I don't know. He was He was I think he's drunk. Yeah, he's definitely had a few. So he was he was like discombobulated. I was like bring that back in. >> Yeah. He turns around, brings it back in and then he as you can see he was going to bail did bail. Okay. And then he saw that you guys were with this family. Okay, yes. And that's right. And he took off back inside. Yeah. Okay. He had something on him that he was fidgeting with. It was probably charges or something. Yeah, I don't know either. So anyway, he got about that far. He got past bathrooms. Okay. And then everything that was in his cart she recovered in this desk. And it's the 1,600 for just his carts? Okay. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Everybody stop. Stop getting in the car. Oh. All of you. I I'll just Where's the guy Where's the guy with the white socks jersey? Uh I don't know. That ain't me. That ain't me. Okay, so you're loading your groceries, but then you see me you're just getting in your car? >> Cuz you just scared me. >> pay for them? Yeah. Where's the receipt? I don't know. I don't know nothing about the one with the white jersey. Yeah, where's the white socks jersey? I've seen I've seen that cat that's going in there. Okay, so they he said they said that you were with him. I know I wasn't. I never been there. I ain't never been in the car. >> All of your descriptions match the descriptions we were given by loss prevention. Do you have the The important thing is do we have the receipts for the items? Looking for a receipt. That's where we can skip the games here. Did you take it? Did we take it? Take away. All the groceries. Man, he was We never got out the car. >> Did you get the Did you get the cart from? Who's that? Who's them? No, she You supposed to She supposed to been going in the store with the one with the shirt. I gave them my link card. >> with the shirt? The one who you talking about with the socks shirt or whatever. >> Okay, yeah. Who is he to you? He got the link card. He's got the link card? >> Yeah. He never came out the store. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I never been in the store, so they can tell you I never been in there. And you can ask them I ain't never been in the store in there. So we took the stuff in the car, right? Cuz nobody paid for this then. Where's my link card? You didn't So you didn't pay for this stuff and you walked out? Cuz he came out. Who smells like alcohol? Oh, not me. I think he's got alcohol. That's him? Yeah, he came out. Okay. I don't know where he went. Oh, he's You said he did come out? >> came right right back in the store. Okay, so who was supposed to pay for this stuff? Him? Mhm. But you walked out with it. He did. No, he did? And then what? You He went back in the store. Okay, everybody needs IDs except for the kids, obviously. How old are you? How old are you? 16. You don't have a driver's license? No. How old are you? 15. 15? All right. Thank you. He going to come out. He's going to come out, you sure? Mhm. Cuz he kind of just left you guys high and dry with a cart of stolen goods. So you gave her a link card >> to come back cuz he Who is he to you? That's That's like his play uncle. He feels sorry for him. His play uncle? Yeah, like it's friend of the family. Okay. Okay. He was out bringing it to the store. I really preach out. I really just mad at him. He like a friend of his family. So where is he Where is he sitting in the car though? Cuz where is he sitting in the car cuz this car is entirely full. No, the kids was sitting in the back. He was sitting there right here. Still not enough seats for everybody though. It looks like there was two seat belts in the back seat. No, there's three There's three seats back there. In the far back? All the way in the back. Okay. The the little kids was in the back. He was sitting right here by the door. Anarion? Is that right? Anarion? Anarion. Anarion, okay. What's your phone number? Come here. What are we doing? Nothing? All right. Looking for my family. Looking for your family? They're waiting for you? Yeah. Okay. Did you take anything? I didn't. No? Did you eat anything out of a bag? No. You didn't eat any food or anything like that? Okay. What was in that? I'll get my IDs and stuff. Do you have an ID? I do. Okay. Looking for my family. You don't have an ID on you though? I'm looking for it. Okay. Do you have your family member's link card? No. They got the link card. They got the link card? They told me you got it. When my partner gets here, if you want to pull up that security footage as soon as he does, that way we'll we'll hold on to everybody until we figure out who actually took what and then we'll go from there. I'm going to run him. He's looking for his license now. He probably doesn't have it. Apparently he possibly gave another name to somebody else here at Meijer, right? Okay. If you want to start pulling up that security footage and determine who took what and then we could figure all that out, okay? Thank you. Okay. I'll just meet you back there as soon as I'm done. Is there a reason why he believes he gave a different name to somebody? No? Your name is Trex. Did you ever have a driver's license? Uh yes. Do you have one right now? Um I'm in the process of getting it back. Okay, so suspended or revoked or something like that? Okay. Obviously you didn't drive here, so that's not the issue, right? The issue is they're alleging that you and your family stole some things today. So that's what we're going to determine and find out. Okay? How much have you had to drink today? I had um maybe one or two beers earlier. Okay. Was one of those in the car? No. I had beer earlier. Okay. So who's your family outside? Oh, that's family. Family like cousins, sisters, daughters? Just deep family. Deep family? Yes. You know, just regular family. Okay. Yep, you came back suspended, so that's good or no valid rather. So I appreciate your honesty with your name and stuff. Okay. Again, we're trying to determine who took what because they're alleging you also took things on top of the the other people in the car, okay? No, I Did you give a cart to somebody? They supposed to been uh they they had already supposed to paid for it. Okay. So they were already supposed to have paid for it. But then they're alleging that you had the link card and you were supposed to pay for it and they're saying that you gave them the cart and then they pushed the cart out. I I I didn't supposed to pay for it through the Cash App or something like that. I mean through straight through or whatever. So you're supposed to pay them back. They was paying for it. Okay. Okay. They all stay out with you or no? They stay with me. Yeah, out in like Comfort Grove or Rockford? Well, yeah, they stay in Rockford, too. They stay in Rockford? You guys good here? I'm going to go see if LP's back in the office. Yeah. Hey Trex, I'm going to have to take the stolen stuff out of the back seat and put it in the cart. All right, I'm going to shut the door, okay? Move She called Meijer quick. Her name is Versa. So that's her. Oh, man. The kid pushed it out. That's gross. That's so classic. How old is that kid? The kid's young. Yeah, he's got to be like eight to seven. Okay. That's a city. I'm going to have to grab a picture of that. Yeah, you want me to get it closer maybe? Yeah. Can you make the screen bigger? Yeah. I'll back up a little bit so I'm sorry. She took over there. For a second. I'm going to have a trouble. I bookmarked it so it's going to have I'm going to have an issue with Yeah. doing that. That's why I should be able to go back frame by frame. I don't What do you I I can't tell Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I I don't want these I don't want these people in here. Right. I know they're juveniles. Right. I don't want Well, other I don't want Whoever Whoever they're with it's an adult. Can we trespass the hell out of them? >> Yes. And then whatever this guy Everything. This guy the whole boat everything. >> This guy for the full 1,600. >> Everything Well, he's got a felony so um we'll definitely charge him with a felony. Um and those kids and obviously everybody in the in the car I mean they got stuff in the back of the car so we can take you out there and see what Yeah, you can take I mean I I literally I couldn't watch this. >> No, you're fine. You're fine. There's a lot going on. It's tough holding somewhere I can The big the big There's some food in there. I was like that job should have been mine. So, we took pictures of everything that they took. Now, these two juveniles what do you want done? Can Can we trespass juveniles? Yes. Is that is trespassing? Yes. I mean the fact that the juvenile passes is just That's just Is she's in high school I'm guessing? >> They're Yeah, they're about I I know he's like Yeah, he's young. She's probably about 15 or 16 maybe 17. I We We I don't know if you can cite juveniles. I don't You guys do that? I don't We can but we need the parent present regardless. So, we have to get a hold of the parent. We got all the [ __ ] We got all the [ __ ] back. For him? For him. Do we have their [ __ ] the [ __ ] They're They They got stopped loading up their car so there's some in the car some in the car. Everything's still open so we got plain view all day. Um we stopped them right in the act of of loading it up. They again claimed that he was supposed to pay for it. Gave them the card and then they walked out with it which I don't believe obviously because they're lying but also when I pulled up they tried to scramble into the car pretty quick. Uh and then they said that you know he again he's supposed to have their link card and then he's supposed to pay for it. He's saying the exact opposite obviously. Can we ID Are we able to >> We got everybody ID'd. Are the adults I know you can't get us the kids but can get the adults and then get So, there's two adults in here in the car that were not inside the store at the time of the theft, right? Cuz there was a lime green shirt and another woman. They sat in the car the whole time. They did drive them here. Are you So, if you can trespass them can we just trespass everybody and Yeah. the guy whatever this is Can we have a name Ray is it Ray? Trex. Trex is it Trex? And he did come back. He told me he was suspended he did come back uh as suspended and they're running uh his aliases now as well I believe so. Okay. So, just charges on him I guess. Trespass everybody in the car Can we cite the adults too or is that The adults that are in the car no cuz you don't have proof that they were aware of the fact that the theft was happening cuz again they told me they were under the impression that they gave one of their little girls the link card to give to him to go in to buy these items. So, that's what they're claiming. Obviously I can't prove whether or not they actually did in fact know that this was going to go down. Odds are they probably did. But again it's not what you know it's what you can prove. Yeah. So, you can trespass anybody for any reason as a business. So, we can do that but I can't charge them with a retail theft or cite them with that because they were not seen on camera pushing these items out. Okay. Um Let me call the the market boss and just verify what we can do. Let me go Let me go talk to my partners too and see if they learned anything new and I'll go double check with the kids and everything and kind of get on them a little bit and re-question them about this situation because we see them pushing the cart out. Right. Um and then he also passed the last point of purchase but gave them back but obviously he'll have to prove that he had no to keep it. Can you roll down both windows? Do they both work? No, this one don't roll down though. You mind You got to turn the key on. This don't This don't go down though. Okay, that's fine. Can the rear one go down? You want to tell me the truth now? Don't Don't don't don't don't. I We told you the truth. What was the truth? That he gave us the fresh kids and we pushed it out. He pushed it out. He bumped the cart. >> paid for, right? >> No, I did He told us he paid for it. He's claiming that he paid for it. Yes, he said he paid for it. We see this liquor right here, right? I understand yeah. He's He's admitted to drinking. He said somebody gave him this and he was doing weird earlier so I don't know. No, I don't want it right now. Put it out so what? It smell like dookie. Can I throw this liquor out? Not right now. So, he said what to you again I'm sorry? He said that he paid for it. He gave us the card and he was pushing it out. He bumped it and I took it from I pushed it to right there. Okay. And then I took over. >> I didn't steal That door over there is closed across from like the checkout area and it was right there. You can see it on the camera. He had the box and stuff. Okay. But the big boxes stuff He said he paid for it. He gave us the card. Okay. And he kept leaving us in the store. We kept looking for him. But every time I seen him he was getting more bigger stuff. The last time I seen him was probably he came out the store sir. And I was buying him clothes. And I can show you Two Two of these are your children? No, that's my daughter. >> Just your daughter? And that's our friend the one you saw conversing with the red. That's my daughter that's my son. Okay, so these two are your children? Okay. So again you're claiming that you were waiting for him to purchase these items in the store kept losing him. He told you that he paid for them handed you the card and then you guys exited the store. He didn't hand me the card. He hand one of them the card. Well, yeah he walked out with it. Exactly. And how old are you? 11. 11. Okay. Young age to be committing felonies. Um you could see where he was talking to you at too. We were talking to him. So, I got to talk to Meijer about what they want done for you two cuz yes because although you're telling me what you're telling me right now I have no proof that that's the case. Okay? But so you guys are on the on the hinge or on the hook for felony retail theft. Okay? At the very Yeah. At the very Well, that's why I got to talk to Meijer again. At the very least he wants everybody in this car. I'll talk to him about the little guy in the back but he wants everybody in this car no trespass from this minor. I never been in that store. And you're not going to be able to go in there ever unfortunately. Because cuz you're on the property and you're you're you're you're in the same vicinity and you're part of of the incident that occurred today. Not saying you did it or you knew about it. But but they can And they can no trespass anybody for any reason, okay? So, whether you had something to do with it or not he says hey they're all in the car together I want them all out of here. I don't ever want them coming back. So, it's just going to be a piece of paper that says you can't come back to this 1 second. It's just going to be a piece of paper that says you can't come back to this Meijer. If you do you could be subject to being arrested, okay? We'll work on that but I need to figure out what he wants to do with your children if he wants to charge them with felony or retail theft at all, okay? Yes, sir. Correct. It seems that It seems that way right now. So, that's why I'm That's why I'm I'm figuring that out, okay? Yeah, I'm talking Well, Were you inside the store? Yes, he was. Okay. He's claiming he doesn't have his the link card. Y'all got my link card? He had it. Okay. Well, he he is he is intoxicated, right? I just I just canceled that card out. Okay. Yes. Yeah, I don't believe it is right now but yeah we can try. Um but again he's claiming that you guys have it but I know you guys said and he's admitted to having some alcohol so I don't know if he remembers. You guys can also do me a favor and just double check all your pockets and stuff like that that you got uh and then we'll go from there on that but that's the least of my concerns right now. Thank you. I don't know if I have enough. Just dump it out now. That's fine. Hey, that's blood on it. Yeah, I wouldn't touch that. So, you guys are going to unfortunately hanging out here for a little bit longer while I figure out the rest of this, okay? And I'll get you out of here as soon as I can, all right? You got all that? I'm not going to touch that. Hey, how are you? I'm good. All right. So, I re-spoke to the kids. They're all adamant that he was the one that was supposed to pay for them. They kept losing him in the store which bodes well with your with your story of or while your account of things with the phone call. Claimed that he said I paid for these items. Here you go. And then they walked out. Okay. Either way I mean it depends on what you guys want to do. So, they would have to prove that then if we decided to charge them up. Sean, they're saying that the kid the kids are saying that that that guy was supposed to pay obviously. Correct. With the with the link card of the mother of the children. Who's in the car. With the link card of the mother of the children that's in the car. Obviously it's all [ __ ] but So, so just trespass Robert. Okay. Trespass So, juveniles trespass. >> Yep. You're going to get a separate total for them though, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's that's in the cart right up there. Right up there. Okay. We can worry about that part later. It was approximately 1,600 for this gentleman and we're going to go with felony retail theft and see what we can do from there. So, at this point let me get you the report number. All right. Here's the deal. Meijer's showing some mercy. Okay? Theoretically they could charge both of your young kids with retail theft. Felony no less. Okay? They just want them no trespassed at this time. Okay. If you're not sure if somebody bought it I know you guys are still growing up and everything as much as you want to trust people that you're with and around you got to make sure you're watching out for yourself. Somebody says I paid for it now I'm sure you're going to be like, let me see the receipt before I walk out of the store. Cuz if you walk out with it, you're in trouble. Doesn't matter if he told you or not. Okay? But this is Meyer's decision to show some mercy cuz you guys are young. He wants to just and you'll probably be in, you know, coaching and course by him for sure. He just wants you guys all no trespass, okay? So it's going to be you five getting no trespass warnings. You got to what? She Yeah, we're we're Yeah, unfortunately not. So we're trying to to get you out of here quickly, okay? Once those no trespass warnings are are done, she's going to get your son's information real quick, too, for that. We'll get you out of here, okay? Try and not you. You're good. Through you. No court dates. Oh, he's he's coming with us. He's got a He's being charged with retail theft as well. What's up? You don't want to, man. No, you don't. Yeah, he's got a dog bite on his leg. That's probably where the blood is from. It can. It can be. Yeah. Mhm. They're not going to stitch his leg up here. They're going to determine whether he needs to go to the hospital or not, so we will be taking him back to the PD at least to get processed, so I'm going to let uh my partners finish up with you guys. Don't go anywhere. And then I'll be out of here. Hey boss, real quick before you go. Sorry to interrupt and cut you off. From this point on, you're under arrest, okay? But you're still going to go to the hospital. You're still going to get checked out for retail theft, okay? That Nope. We're not doing that right now. That's what court's for. Our concern right now is your is your leg and then we'll handle the rest later and you got a court date that you're going to get later on, okay? You had a card you walked out as well. Yes, you did. And then you went back and then you never paid for those items and then you tried to skate around it. We're not doing that right now. We're not doing that right now. I get it. That's what court's for. That's what court's for. So, right now you're still going to go to the hospital. I need you to turn around. My partners are going to make sure you don't have any weapons on you, okay? Cuz as of right now, you're in our custody. Nope. Nope. Yeah, okay. Okay. I don't know if he'll ride in the back. He's been cooperative, but we'll we definitely got to follow. Unless you ride Okay. Okay. Yeah, ambulance is good. We're going to have somebody ride with you guys. All right. Where do you want to go? I don't care. You pick, boss. It's your Are any of you down paper? No. Somebody voluntarily go with him and I'll get you a copy. All right. So I got Tony on him. Two girls, their little kids claim that they again he pushed out he told them he paid for it. So Meyer wants them no trespass at the very least. All right. So like I said You want to explain to him why he doesn't want to get a retail theft case against him at such a young age. You the little kid in back there. And why he doesn't want to get a retail theft case. You don't, buddy. All right. Correct. Okay. So I'm leaving. My partner here is going to finish up the paperwork, hand it to you. As soon as she says that you guys are good to go, you're good to go. He's going to the hospital and then he's coming with us. Your license She's got those two. She'll give them back when she's done. Okay? Hopefully it's just a few more minutes and you can get out of here and use the restroom and stuff, okay? All right. No more? No more. We learned. Okay. Absolutely. We're going to stay in around here for a little bit. Got your driver's license, ma'am? There you go. Whoop. Sorry. Yep. All right. Everyone got their copies and everything? So her name is Janay and not Nay. Yeah. Well, either way. Okay. You guys are good to go, all right? You're welcome, sir. All right, sounds good.