What's in your pocket? Hey, nothing. Hey, put your hands up. Put your hands up. Put your hands up. What is it? Put your hands up. >> What is it? Hey, listen. Put your hands up. Newly released body camera video shows the moments leading up to a deadly officer-involved shooting in California after a man pulled a weapon on sheriff's deputies. Hey, don't reach for it. Don't reach for it. Hey, get on the ground. Hey, don't reach for it. Get on the ground. Get on the ground then. On August 7th, Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies in the Carson Station received a 911 call reporting a disturbance at a Chevron gas station. Carson Sheriff Station, Jackson speaking. How can I help you? I I need help with the store. What store are you at? The terminal transportation. What's the address? Uh Center Avenue, Carson. The store clerk told dispatch a man at the gas station, later identified as 34-year-old Arturo Sernas, was screaming at gas pumps and refused to leave. And what's happening there? Uh it's one a a Latino guy. He's acting like he's crazy, screaming outside. I'm going to want him to leave but he he is screaming and walking around the store. Video shows first responders arrive to the scene to confront Sernas. Hey, you need to go, dude. What are you doing here? Huh? Almost immediately, officials notice Sernas has what appears to be the butt of a handgun sticking out of his pocket. What's in your pocket? Hey, Hey, put your hands up. Put your hands up. Put your hands up. What is it? Put your hands up. >> it? Listen. Put your hands up. Hey. Deputies then call for Sernas to get to the ground. Don't reach for it. Hey, get on the ground. Hey, don't reach for it. Get on the ground. Get on the ground then. Get on the ground. Hey, get on the ground. Hey, listen. Get on the ground. After that, video shows a first responder take cover behind a squad car, still calling for Sernas to get down. Yeah. What's your attitude? Don't open the door. Hey, get on your knees. Get on your knees. Get on your knees. Security camera video shows Sernas kneeling on the ground while officials instructed him not to reach for anything. Video shows Sernas reach into both his pockets and backpack. By this time, officers had taken cover, so the view from their body cameras was obstructed. They can be heard though calling for Sernas to leave his belongings alone. Hey, put your hands on your hood on the Hey, sir in the car. Hey, you want to back up? Yeah. Hey, stop reaching in your pocket. No. Keep your hands on their on your head. No. Keep your hands on your head. Leave your phone alone. Stop reaching. After this, Sernas reaches for the weapon in his back pocket. That's when multiple officials open fire, one with a less-lethal 40 mm weapon and the other, seconds later, with a department-issued gun. And I'm going to I'm going to get him with the 40 if he goes in his pocket. This is left pocket, right? >> Yeah, that's my pocket. Leave your hands on your head. Leave your hands on your head. After that, Sheriff's deputies again call for Sernas to put his hands on his head. Leave your hands on your head. Listen. Hey, let's get fires fire stage. After the shooting, first responders gave Sernas medical assistance, but he was pronounced dead before he could be taken to the hospital. Officials also recovered a BB pistol that resembled a gun on the scene. Hey, back up. Get on the ground. A California man calls for police to shoot him after allegedly stabbing multiple people with a screwdriver. This comes just minutes before an officer-involved shooting. Drop it. Drop the knife now. Come here. Don't do it. Just before noon on May 30th, Long Beach, California dispatch received a 911 call reporting a man was attacking people at a park. Long Beach 911, you need police for >> Hey, there's a guy with a knife trying to stab people at Livingston Park Kids in Long Beach? The park in Livingston. Get a police officers here. He stabbed two people. He Oh my god, he just stabbed the guy right now. The caller tells dispatch the suspect, later identified as 31-year-old Mario Nahara, is armed with a knife. Investigators later determined he used a screwdriver in the stabbings. Oh my god. It's It's occurring now? I'm breastfeeding in my car. He's beaten one of the fathers of a kid right now. Get police here now. Livingston Park, Long Beach. >> Livingston Park. He's stabbing him. He's stabbing him. Okay, is that him there? with a beard. He's wearing a black jacket, jeans. He's probably 5'9". I can't get in there right now because I have a baby and I'm breastfeeding. There's people running. Get police officers multiple here now. He has a weapon. He stabbed three people now and his kids in the park and I just left. GET POLICE HERE NOW. NOW. >> I'M working on it. Do you want me to GET YOUR NAME? SOMEBODY HELP. HELP. HELP HIM. HELP HIM. IN ALL, OFFICIALS SAY Nahara attacked five people with a screwdriver, including a grandfather inside the park and another man at a nearby restaurant. When the first Long Beach police officer arrives on the scene, Nahara yells, quote, "Shoot me." Hey, watch crossfire. Hey, don't come towards me. Hey, get on the ground. Get on the ground. Hey, back up. Get on the ground. Unit 2 Boy 11 says he wants to be shot. Uh can you have a Wells Fargo close the front door? Hey, sir, move. Move. Hey, get on the ground. Next unit, can you get a 40? Hey, back up. Hey. Hey, 2 Boy 11, can I get the air? 2 Boy 11, male Hispanic. Hey, Body camera video shows Nahara ignore the officer's commands and approach another person. That's when the officer yells out calling for Nahara to back away. Hey, step away from him. Get on the ground. Hey, next unit, uh come off of Livingston. Hey, get on the ground, my man. No one wants to hurt you. Okay, you need to get on the ground. 2 Boy 11, uh he has that uh knife in his right hand, looks like. Uh headed towards Livingston. Hey, get on the ground. At this point, additional officers arrive on the scene. On the ground. Hey, move. Let me know when you're ready. 2 Boy 11, uh come off of Second and Livingston. Um He's just walking right now. Uh Looks like he's going to start heading uh northbound. Hey, um we got a victim, right? Officers follow as Nahara walks into a driveway and attempts to open a gate. Per unit 2 Boy 13, confirm we do have a victim. Hey. Hey, watch when you're ready for that 40. Let me know when you're ready. Hey, come on. Come on. Huh? Okay, let me know when you're ready. First responders can be heard calling for Nahara to drop the weapon. When he refuses, an officer opens fire. Drop it. Drop the knife now. Come here. Don't do it. Body camera video shows the same moments from another officer's perspective. Hey. Get on THE GROUND NOW. GET ON THE GROUND NOW. YOU WATCHING AND READY FOR that 40? Let me know when you're ready. Get it up now. 40 now. 40 now. 40 now. Let me know when you're ready. Do it. Drop it. Drop the knife now. Drop it. DROP THE KNIFE. DROP IT. DROP THE KNIFE NOW. COME HERE. Don't do it. After the shooting, officers approach Nahara and begin first aid. Officials say Nahara was shot in the upper body. He was taken to the hospital and treated for non-life-threatening injuries. The other victims only received minor injuries. Just to the west. WATCH TO THE WEST. >> [music] >> 911 STATE OF EMERGENCY. YES, this has to do with an emergency restraining order on my son. He happens to be at the residence. I have the police report number or what can I do? >> address? It's West Portland, c o r t. Single one party violation of a restraining order at Portland. RP just pulled up and her estranged son is passed out by her back door. But it's a male, 27 years old, about 6'1, wearing dark pants and a dark black shirt. Possibly high. RP states there's a piece of foil that appears burnt. Unknown what type of drug and no weapon seen. I need to give you an update. Okay. He just came out of the side of the house and he brandished a gun. He had on his on his waistband. He brandished a gun. He said it's fake. He said if they come for me, I'm ready for them. It's a fake one. Okay, my mother's saying it's a fake. My mother's I think it's a fake one. He has To my knowledge, he has no bullets. I saw a fake one on his shirt. >> Okay, what what did it look like? Uh it's just a like a toy fake gun. Okay, well I'm on the phone right now and I I've been outside in the house I've been outside and I've been monitoring him to make sure he hasn't left the house. He thought it was funny and he came out with the gun underneath his belt. He said if they come for me, I'm ready. That's what he said to me. Okay. But you you think now it was a toy? I don't know, officer. I I don't trust my son. >> it So what did it look like? It looked big black revolver, a big black revolver. Okay, he's in there he's in there got moving. I got moving. Hey, back seat back seat he's backing up he's coming up he's coming up he sees us. FRESNO POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. [screaming] BACK OUT. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. FRESNO POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. WE HAVE A POLICE CANINE HERE IF YOU TAKE OFF RUNNING WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE DOG. YOU MAY BE BITTEN BY THE DOG. COME OUT NOW. SO FRESNO POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE SURROUNDED DUDE. COME OUT NOW. HEY, DO WE WANT TO GO use the garage? >> Yeah, you want to go? Yeah, go go. Sarge, we're going to cross we're going to cross. Go go. He's closing the door. GO GUN GUN GUN. WATCH OUT. GUN GUN GUN. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS DUDE. DON'T DO THAT. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. >> [screaming] >> SHOW me your hands. Sarge, you go up you go up. Take cover we'll be right back. Back out. Back out. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. BRING SOME FIRE. Show me your hands dude. Hey, we need we need to put a body here to protect grandma. We need to put bodies here TO PROTECT MOM. MOM. UH CHRIS, GO AHEAD AND take that breezeway. Mom. Uh Chris, go ahead and take that breezeway lethal. Two Baker 10 be advised he brandished the weapon, chrome in color. Show me your hands. Okay. I just need you to protect the house. Yeah yeah no no no. Off. Two Baker 10 to Hutchins watch just to the west. WATCH TO THE WEST. >> [applause] >> SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. GUN GUN. GUN. DON'T MOVE. GUN. GUN RIGHT HAND. HE'S GOT A GUN DOWN HE'S DOWN RIGHT HERE HE'S DOWN RIGHT HERE. HE'S DOWN RIGHT HERE. GET DOWN. DON'T MOVE. I CAN'T SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU GUYS RIGHT SIDE SARGE. HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON. I CAN'T SEE THE GUN HE HAS IN HIS RIGHT HAND. 911 THIS IS CRYSTAL. HELLO. HI, can I help you? Hi, can you send an officer over to my house my mom's house? What's your address? It's Chapel Road. Is that a house or apartment? It's a house. And it's Chapel Road in Waterville? Okay, what's going on there? Uh my brother just assaulted me and I stopped here from work and I noticed that my bike was missing and he was pretty much he took it he was the last person that took it so he sold it to somebody. And I I confronted him about it and I was telling him where is my bike I want to I want you to go get it and he just you know he pretty much laid hands on me. So What did he do to where he laid hands on you? >> He punched me he punched me in the head. Okay. Do you need medical attention? Um now I'll be all right. Is he still there? Yeah, he's still here. And I'm pretty sure he has a warrant, too. Okay. What's his name? His name is Antonio. And his last name? Zapeda. Zapeda? Yeah, Zapeda. With a Z? Okay. Yeah. One second. Do you know his date of birth? It's All right. Okay. Is he drinking or on drugs? Yeah, he's drinking. Um no drugs? Um I'm pretty sure he's on drugs, too. Is he white or black or Hispanic or Asian? Hispanic. And what's he wearing today? He's wearing a green checkered shirt and some blue jeans. A white shirt and white shoes. I'm sorry? Um does he know you're calling? No, he's outside right now. He probably leaves if you know. What is he doing out there? He's just drinking a beer. Okay. Like his front yard or backyard? Again, in the front. And what is your name? My name is Same last? Yeah. Okay. And your phone number is the Yeah. Is it just the two of you that are there? Uh no, it's my mom's my mom was here and she she was trying to get in the middle and he pushed her, too, so Okay, where is she at now? She we're right here inside of the house. Okay, what's her name? Same last? Yeah. Okay. So you and her are inside and then your brother's outside? Yeah, we locked the door already. Okay. Does he have access to a vehicle where he would leave in? Uh no, he doesn't have access to a vehicle. What kind of vehicle is it a bicycle? No, he doesn't. He has a bike, though. A bicycle? Yeah. Okay. Do you know if your phone number's it's missing? No. Okay. >> No, he took it and I'm pretty sure he sold it. For, you know, All right. We're going to get an officer over there to stay separated from him until they get there and call us back if anything changes, okay? Okay, thank you. You're welcome. Bye. 10-1 is Cooper. What are you reporting? Hello. Hi, how can I help you? Hi, we had a call earlier cuz one of my brothers and when you guys came he didn't he didn't um you guys didn't catch him cuz he had left, but he's back. Okay, what's the address? Capple Woods. One second. Okay, I'm sorry. So, what was the address one more time? Capple Woods. And he's back? Yeah. And okay, got you. Did he hit anybody this time around or is he Where What is he doing now? Nope, he's trying to get in the house and my mom doesn't want him here. Any weapons, would you say? He looks like he has a knife in his hand. He looks like he has a knife in his hand? Yeah. Okay, got you. And is he What's the brother's name? Antonio. Antonio last name? Zepeda. Z E P E D A. Zepeda and then the date of birth? Where is he right now? He's right in front of the house. Okay, is he intoxicated maybe on drugs? Yeah, he is. But he looks like he's about to leave right now. He's putting air in his bike. Yeah, he's getting ready to leave. Okay, got you. And you guys have all the doors locked, right? Yeah. Tell me which way he goes when he starts riding off, okay? I don't want you to obviously Okay, yeah, he's getting on his bike. Hey, I'm sorry about that, man. What Which way did he go? My headset died. Uh he's leaving already. He's going towards the 7-Eleven. Left? >> Towards the What is it? Um What is that road called? Not Not Airport, it's um Another one? >> It's like No, Sunny Hills. Got you. Home Road. There you go. Home Road. Okay, perfect. Just stay in the house and I'll have them come contact you guys there. What's your name? He's already My name is He's already hitting the corner, so I I don't know if you want me to keep him. Yeah, Fernando. Just yeah, just go ahead and wait at the address. I'll have my guys swing back around to talk to you guys, okay? And did he threaten anybody >> All right. Did he have it in his hands or did he just have it in his hands? No. No, he he was just trying to get in the house. Got you. Okay, the officers have been on the way since you called, man. All right. Antonio! Antonio! Come over here. Come here. Keep your hands up. Keep your hands up. Keep your hands up. STOP RIGHT THERE. >> THERE. STOP RIGHT THERE. STOP. Get on the ground. Turn around. Turn around. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. On the ground. On your stomach. On your stomach. On your stomach. Get on GET ON YOUR STOMACH. GET ON YOUR YOU'RE GOING TO GET TASED. GET ON GET ON YOU'RE going to get tased. You're going to get tased, Antonio. Get on the ground. GET ON THE GROUND. >> GET ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE going to get tased. Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Why are you making it harder THAN IT HAS TO BE, DUDE? GET ON THE GROUND. LIE DOWN ON YOUR STOMACH. Lie down on your stomach. Get on your stomach. Dude, get on your stomach. Dude, get on your stomach. Get on the ground. GET ON THE GROUND. HOLD IT. TASE Tase him. TASE HIM. TASE HIM. GET ON THE GROUND. HOLD IT. TASE TASE HIM. TASE HIM. TASE HIM. >> [screaming] >> ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. WE'RE FINE. WE'RE FINE. Tase Tase him. On your stomach. Get on your stomach. Get on your stomach. ON YOUR STOMACH. ON YOUR STOMACH. GET ON YOUR STOP RESISTING. STOP RESISTING OR I'LL TASE YOU AGAIN. Another cuff. Flip it. Cuff. Hey, there was no need for that, man. I know. Straight punched him IN THE FACE. STAY ON THE GROUND. GOT IT. STAY RIGHT THERE. UH DO YOU HAVE ANY You want to stand up, man? Get on your >> We put it out. I don't know if it went out. It went out there. Okay. You want to stand? Pick me up, fool. He touched his buddy. Just keep an eye on him. Super treat. Super treat. Stop resisting. What? 51, he's trying to foot bail. Put your hands up. He's armed with a gun. He's armed with a gun. He has a gun. He's running down towards the street. Gun's in his left hand. Black sweatshirt. Down here on the shoulders pinned in. Subject pinned down on the shoulder. We got him. We got him. He's right over there. Trying to foot bail. Foot bail. He's armed with a gun. He's armed with a gun. Where is he? Show me your hands. Show me your hands or you're going to get shot. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. YEAH, DO IT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. DROP THE GUN OR YOU WON'T GET HURT. GO. GO. YOU'RE GOOD. You're going to get shot. DROP THE GUN. DROP IT. DROP IT. DON'T YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT IF YOU GO IN THAT CAR. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT. DROP IT. 7-ELEVEN, SHOTS FIRED. SHOTS FIRED. The man was taken into custody and received medical treatment at the scene. He was transported to a nearby hospital by ambulance. The man was later pronounced deceased at the hospital. His identity is known, but is being withheld at this time. Thankfully, the woman inside the car was not injured during this incident. A loaded handgun was recovered at the scene. SHOW ME THE GUN. DRAMATIC BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE shows the moments before California officers shoot and kill an armed man after A FOOT CHASE. DON'T PICK IT UP. DON'T PICK IT UP. HE'S HE'S MOVING. WATCH IT. WATCH IT. STAY ON THE GROUND. HE'S GETTING UP. DON'T DO IT. THE SHOOTING HAPPENED on December 20th of last year in Bakersfield, California, about 2 hours north of Los Angeles. The Bakersfield Police Department released the body camera video just this month. He's got a gun. The incident happened just before 10:00 in the morning when an adult man was seen near the railroad tracks with a weapon. Officers were in the area for an unrelated call and responded to the scene. Body camera video highlights the suspect, allegedly showing a gun in his hand. Officers fired shots, but he ran off. Suspect's down. Make an entry team from the west. Have medical aid staged at Daniels AND UNION. BODY CAMERA VIDEO SHOWS THE suspect running off as multiple officers follow. Watch the crossfire. KEEP COVER, CHAD. THIS IS THE POLICE. STOP RUNNING. AT THE TIME, THERE'S CONFLICTING reports about whether the suspect has a knife or a gun. A FIREARM? CHAD? OFFICIALS LATER DETERMINED THE suspect had a gun during the initial shooting, but carried a knife as he led officers on a chase. >> [snorts] >> Multiple units respond to the second area where the suspect ran off to. Body camera video shows officers calling for the suspect to drop the weapon. When he refuses, they again open fire. Unit one, we got him. He's walking towards us now. Drop the gun now. DROP THE GUN. DROP IT. DROP THE GUN. HOLD ON. BACK DROP. BACK DROP. HEY, DROP IT. DROP IT. DROP IT. DROP IT. OFFICERS CONTINUE to yell for the man to stop before firing even more shots. I'M TAKING A SHOT. TAKING A SHOT. >> AFTER THAT, they work to make sure the area is clear. Watch his hands. Watch his hands. HEY, SOMEBODY GRAB A Following the shooting, officers provided medical aid to the suspect, but he died on the scene. In all, eight officers fired their weapons during the incident. DROP THE [screaming] GUN. I GOT A SHOT. I GOT A SHOT. LATER INVESTIGATIONS FOUND AN unfired bullet in the suspect's handgun that had a possible firing pin strike on the primer. That means the trigger was pulled, but there was some sort of malfunction, so the bullet never actually fired. The Bakersfield Police Department says the shooting is still under investigation. Right now, the suspect's identity has not been released. A California man captured on multiple surveillance video goes on a 16-hour crime spree that ends with a police shootout. It happened on September 22nd in Stanislaus County, California. Authorities say shortly before midnight, 43-year-old Jason Dingler, who you see here, appears on this home surveillance video barefoot and shirtless attempting to break into the home. Dingler then is seen repeatedly ringing the doorbell before giving up and running toward the door, breaking it down, allowing him access into the home. Authorities say the homeowners were out of town. However, once inside, Dingler stole a firearm, several rounds of ammunition, and a change of clothes. Next, officials say Dingler went to another house just blocks away and held a man hostage. The home surveillance video captures Dingler holding the man at gunpoint, following him back inside the house as he demands the keys to his pickup truck. Authorities later revealed Dingler had no prior military service. Moments later, Dingler and the man he's holding at gunpoint are seen leaving the home, eventually stealing the truck and fleeing. Authorities say Dingler drives the stolen pickup truck to a local convenience store. Outside surveillance video shows Dingler exiting the pickup with the stolen firearm visibly in a holster on his hip. Once inside, more security video shows Dingler approaching the store's beer aisle with the gun still visible in the holster and stealing two cases of beer. Authorities say as he was leaving the convenience store, Dingler places his hand on the gun holster when a teenager approaches, then walks out of the store, which prompts an employee to trigger the alarm. Authorities say minutes later they were notified of a stolen pickup. Aerial footage shows Dingler getting on a local highway, prompting Dingler to lead police on a high-speed chase. After crashing, Dingler takes the chase on foot and fires multiple rounds at officers. Shots fired. Hey, he's shooting. I got you. As Dingler attempts to escape in an orchard, footage from above shows Dingler pointing the firearm at deputies in the air. He is pointing whatever's in his hands at us. I don't know if he's trying to shoot at us or not. Officers can be heard trying to get Dingler to surrender. However, he continues firing off rounds, hitting a patrol vehicle. Moments later, Dingler begins to approach authorities as they take caution because he still has a gun in hand. That's when a deputy can be heard firing his weapon, shooting and hitting Dingler. Helicopter surveillance captured the aftermath showing Dingler on the ground. Okay, he's laying down. Gun is to his right side. Officers later render aid to Dingler, who was taken into custody and rushed to a hospital. He faces nearly a dozen charges including burglary, kidnapping, carjacking, assault, robbery, and attempted murder. Authorities recovered the handgun Dingler used to shoot at them, which they believe [music] is the same handgun that was stolen from the home he allegedly robbed. Officials say no deputies or anyone from the public were hit by gunfire, and the sheriff's office is reviewing the case >> [music] >> as well as the district attorney's office. Put it down. Put it down. There's a drunk man at my door threatening my life. You go ahead. Okay. Pull my [ __ ] here. my gun. Just Ridiculous. If he comes in my door though, I get chance to shoot him. Sir, He's in my house. I'm going to need you to answer my questions. Answer my questions. Your What address is you and Trotwood in Modesto with a orange shirt? Yeah. Do you know this male? Yes. Okay. >> Yes, he took my yesterday at my house. Okay, how do you know him? He's my son-in-law. He's drunk. What's his first name? Paul Chavez. Can you spell his first name for me? Paul, P A U L. How do you spell his last name? C H A V E. Or easy. C H A V E Z. Chavez? Yep. >> What's his date of birth? I don't know. You don't know? Nope. How old is he? 30. He's 30? Is he white, black, Hispanic, Asian? Hello? White. What color shirt is he wearing? No shirt. What color pants? Blue jeans. Does he have any weapons? No. But you said he's been drinking? Yes. I mean, ripping ripping my screen door off. Out of his seat. Okay, so he's ripping the screen door off? >> Screen door off, yes. He's on property in my house. I probably damaged in my house, yes. Okay. And is he just damaging the windows or is he damaging >> Yeah, he's ripping the screen door off. And my wife went to go get pizza and she's on her way back, so I'm going to have to go up there and deal with him. So, you better hurry up. Cuz if he touches my wife, I'm going to shoot him. What's your first name? What's your last name? Can you spell that for me? Ignacio. And what's your date of birth? Okay, and are your doors locked? Yes. But my wife is coming up with pizza. Okay, can you tell your wife not to drive in the driveway just so you avoid confrontation until law enforcement gets there? Yes. Okay, I'm going to enter a call for service, okay? Hello, are you still there? Yes. Okay, I'm going to get a call into for service, okay? Thank you. Thank you. 911. Yeah, I called 911 from in Trotwood about a drunk guy. He has a a hitch now and he moved over to my neighbor's house. He's in their yard. So, he has a weapon. He has a what? A hitch from the truck with the ball on it. He's in the front yard? He's He's in the neighbor's front yard now. He's looking for a fight. Do you know the address of your neighbor? Uh I'm towards Orangeburg. It's the second house in from Orangeburg. Okay. On the on the right. Second house on the right. All right, they should be there soon. They were down the street, okay? Yep. Not far. Thanks, bye. See him. Negative. But I saw where you turned onto the street. I'm going to go up to Arby's house. He's sitting in a car? My wife is in the car telling him to come home. Yeah, no, he's fighting with the guy next to the gray car. Now. Says he's in the grass by that car. I think your husband wants you to go home. Yeah, I just parked here. >> Go ahead. There he is. Hi, sir. Hey. Don't move, okay? Hey, put that down. Put that down. Barry 73 100 point uncooperative. Put that down. Put that down or you're going to get tased. You're going to get tased. Put it down, man. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. PUT IT DOWN. DOWN. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND NOW. [screaming] GET ON THE GROUND. YOU GOT CONS? HI, SIR. HEY, don't move, okay? Hey, put that down. Put it down. Hey, put it down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. May I tell you again? Taser, taser, taser. PUT IT DOWN. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND NOW. GET ON THE GROUND. You got cons? Yep. Yep. Barry uh 71 AMR code You got cons? Yep. Yep, he's shot. He's shot. >> It's okay, we got him. We got him. A former California sergeant now faces multiple charges after his alleged excessive use of force during an arrest this spring. Okay, we got him. We got Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back now. Are you going to get another tase? Merced is 11, we're 415 with this individual taser deployment. It happened on March 11th in Merced County, California. Body camera video shows officials with the Sheriff's Office respond to the scene of a car crash. What's going on, man? How are you doing? Good, good. Yeah, I don't know how All right, I'll see you when you get down here. So, what happened? I I I tried to take um wheelchair. Honestly, there were a short way to go down here, but honestly, I this road, I I swear, I just didn't even know where I was going. Officials tell the driver, Luis Jackson, that he's suspected of driving under the influence. Jackson can be heard on body camera video admitting he's drunk. I'm going to be honest with you, okay? I'm going to be transparent with you, okay? Right. All right. Um just because due to the condition that the the car went through the fence and stuff, and you did say you had been drinking, but that might have uh I'm going to jail. There's no need for a sobriety test or nothing. I'm I'm going to I'm going to Yeah. You should wait right here, okay? So, look, man, they're they're just they're going to do their test, okay? But I'm just wanting I'm not to waste your guys' time. There's no need for a sobriety test. I'm drunk. I've been drinking. After this, an argument breaks out, and Jackson is seen lunging toward then Sergeant Dustin Witt. Video shows another first responder pull out a taser. licensed driver to drive a car, right? Not necessarily. He really he Hey, so that's not even that's not even crazy for you to get on my girl like that. Okay, hey. Stop. Listen, listen. Get up. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. After this, Witt can be seen on video repeatedly kicking Jackson and stomping on his head. Another first responder can be heard telling Witt to stop. After that, Jackson is handcuffed. It's okay, we got him. We got him. Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back now. Are you going to get another tase? Roll over. Partner, roll over. Roll over. Hey. Stop playing like that and roll over. Roll over. Come on. Come on. Merced is 1141. Roll over. Roll over. Roll over. I'm sorry. Roll over. I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry, sir. Sit up. I'm sorry. Sit up. Sit up. Video shows these same moments from Witt's perspective. Okay, we got him. We got him. I got him. Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back now. Are you going to get another tase? Merced is 11, we're 415 with this individual taser deployment. Roll over. Partner, roll over. Roll over. Hey. Stop playing like that and roll over. Roll over. Come on. Come on. Merced is 1141. Roll over. Roll over. I'm sorry. Roll over. I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry, sir. Sit up. I'm sorry. Sit up. Sit up. Witt resigned from the Merced County Sheriff's Office this June. After an internal investigation, he was charged with assault by a peace officer and assault [music] likely to cause great bodily injury. Police say she offered millions of dollars to have her estranged husband killed and was caught in a sting at a Starbucks. She pleaded guilty, served time, and was still facing new felony charges. And now there's a stunning update in that case, [music] a tragic update because the woman at the center of that murder-for-hire plot has been found dead. And the path from that conviction to this moment is raising some shocking new questions. We're on the case presented by Law & Crime. I'm Chris Stewart. California equestrian, Tatiana Remley, once sat across from an undercover officer calmly discussing how to have her estranged husband killed. Remley was later convicted of orchestrating a multi-million dollar murder-for-hire plot against the man who she was divorcing. This was a case that unraveled after a police sting and a suspicious house fire. According to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department, investigators say that Remley offered as much as $2 million to have her husband killed. This was a woman with a lot of money, and there was a lot of money just surrounding this case in general. But her conviction was not the end of this story. After serving time and while still facing additional legal trouble, there's been a stunning new development. Tatiana Remley has been found dead. And what led to that moment is why we're now taking another look at this case. So, let me set the scene for you because it seemed like this woman, Tatiana Remley, she just had so much going for her. She lived in a beautiful part of the country in Southern California. She had this love for animals. She had the resources to interact with animals. I mean, horses are not cheap. This was a woman who had money. Tatiana Remley was a California equestrian, who according to court records once lived a very public and very wealthy lifestyle with her husband, who is named Mark Remley. Court records and reporting showed that this couple, they owned multiple high-value properties, and they moved in some pretty elite social and business circles during their marriage. Remley reportedly was a long-time tech executive. He helped grow a software company into a multi-million dollar enterprise. He later inherited significant wealth through family holdings as well. So, we're not talking about somebody who just had that new money through his career. This was a guy that had wealth, that had that old money from his family. A former business partner later described Remley as the driving force behind many of the couple's ventures, telling NewsNation that she was often the quote ringleader and the one pushing ideas forward for better or for worse. And I'll get more into that in just a moment because according to prior court filings and media interviews, the two first met during a chance encounter at a Starbucks in Southern California. Now, Starbucks is a detail that becomes somewhat ironic considering what I'll tell you happened later in this case and in their marriage. Now, the two married in 2011, and they became well-known in Southern California after they launched a pretty ambitious venture, an equestrian acrobatic show. Think like Cirque du Soleil, but with horses. You ever hear of dressage? I mean, it was a lot of that. This show, it was called Valitar, and it was at the Del Mar Fairgrounds. That's the home of the San Diego County Fair. Now, according to reporting by the San Diego Union-Tribune at the time, this production, as ambitious as it was and as risky as it was, turned out to be just that, and not in a good way because this show collapsed after just a handful of performances. And it wasn't just a failure of a show from a reputation standpoint for this couple, it was a failure from a business standpoint, not just for them, but for the vendors and for the performers who were signed to be part of it because many of them were left unpaid. And when you look at this marriage and what ends up being just a very haunting and tragic story, this show kind of marks the beginning of a long financial and personal unraveling for the Remleys. Former staff later told reporters that the production just burned through millions of dollars and money that came from investors before it collapsed. It forced the liquidation of assets, and it triggered bankruptcy proceedings. One former associate described the project as chaotic behind the scenes, saying that creative control issues and internal conflict plagued the show well before opening night. In 2017, Tatiana and Mark Remley appeared on the Showtime documentary series Naked S N C T M, which followed members of an exclusive invitation-only sex club known for its partner-sharing lifestyle. Now, on the show, both openly talked about their relationship, describing sex as central to their marriage and portraying themselves as thrill-seekers drawn to risk and excess. In one episode, Remley described herself as someone who liked to push limits. Mark said that intimacy and experimentation were the core of their relationship. Those statements later resurfaced as investigators and former associates tried to just understand this couple's dynamic because you know, no judgment here. I think it's fair to say that they weren't living a typical lifestyle. Now, former business associates say that period of time, we're talking around 2017, also marked another turning point for the Remleys because you have a former partner, his name is Eric Martonovich, and he went on NewsNation and he talked about how the lifestyle depicted on the show actually mirrored what he had personally witnessed behind the scenes. This wasn't some reality TV show that didn't show reality. He says it was actually incredibly accurate to what this couple was. He described the couple's private lifestyle as increasingly chaotic, boundary pushing, and difficult for others in their orbit to navigate. And that's also saying a lot considering the high-rolling lifestyle that they were navigating, that people knew them through. Now, that same source also claimed that the couple attempted to draw friends and associates into their personal lives in ways that many considered uncomfortable. That includes invitations that blurred professional, social, and intimate boundaries, something that he said ultimately led to him cutting ties entirely with the Remleys. According to that former associate, Remley often crafted a carefully controlled public persona. He told NewsNation that Tatiana presented herself as a larger-than-life character. At times, she adopted a Russian-inspired identity and aliases, which he said he believed was manufactured rather than authentic, describing it as part performance, part self-invention. Now, the Showtime series, which has since ended, later became a reference point for investigators and media as questions mounted about power, control, and the psychological dynamics inside the marriage. Over the next decade, court filings show that the couple's marriage was repeatedly on and off with multiple separations and reconciliations before they ultimately filed for divorce. Now, in divorce filings, Remley accused her husband of abuse. Those are allegations that he repeatedly denied. Eric Martonovich, the man who went on NewsNation, he said he did not believe that Mark Remley orchestrated the abuse that Tatiana Remley described. Instead, he claims Tatiana was often the one, quote, "trying to get people to do things." And asserting that dynamic fit a long-standing pattern that he had personally witnessed. Things then escalated dramatically in the summer of 2023. According to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department, deputies were called on July 2nd, 2023 to a house fire at the couple's ranch-style home in unincorporated San Diego County. When deputies arrived, they contacted Tatiana Remley at that property, and they said that they found her in possession of multiple firearms and ammunition. So, now this situation of a couple that was going through a divorce, that had separated, maybe a toxic marriage coming to an end, certainly people who pushed boundaries, especially according to friends Tatiana, now we're talking about guns. So, this is getting scary. Tatiana was arrested that night on weapons-related charges, and arson investigators were brought in to examine this fire. But, that house fire was only the beginning. The following day, authorities say investigators received information that Remley was attempting to hire someone to kill Mark, her estranged husband. According to the Sheriff's Department, a mutual acquaintance alerted Mark Remley, who then went to police. Detectives launched a murder-for-hire investigation, and they arranged a sting. On August 2nd, 2023, according to law enforcement, Remley met with an undercover sheriff's detective who was posing as a hitman at a Starbucks in San Diego County. Remember that Starbucks is actually where Mark ended up meeting Tatiana in a chance encounter, and that is how their relationship, and really this entire story began. Authorities allege that during the meeting, Remley, Tatiana, she provided detailed instructions about how she wanted her husband killed, and how his body should be disposed of. She was getting incredibly specific. Investigators say that she offered a multi-million-dollar payment, and she brought firearms and US currency as a down payment. So, there is the key evidence that we often see police get in cases where they are posing as someone like a hitman and are trying to get someone arrested who is looking for a murder-for-hire. Tatiana was arrested at the scene. She was charged with solicitation of murder and multiple weapons offenses. Now, according to court records, she later pleaded guilty to solicitation of murder, and she was sentenced to 3 years and 8 months in state prison. Reporting from NBC San Diego and People indicates that she ultimately served about a year before she was released, but even after serving time, her legal issues were not done. According to the San Diego County District Attorney's Office, Remley was arrested again in September in connection with the earlier house fire, and she was charged with felony arson. She pleaded not guilty, and she was awaiting a future court date. But then, just as the case appeared headed back to court, Tatiana Remley was found dead. Authorities confirmed that Remley was found on December 18th outside of a bar, though no further details have been provided. But, officials did later say that her death was being investigated and had been ruled as self-induced. Law enforcement has not released extensive details about her death, and authorities have said there's no indication that anyone else was involved. Joining us now to talk about this case is Detective Eric Barnes. It's always great to have you on Law&Crime. This story has a lot of twists, a lot of turns, a lot of layers to it, kind of that the the money aspect of it, which always grabs people's attention. From a law enforcement perspective, just kind of looking at this story from start to now finish, what stood out to you? You know, it's another situation where you see someone that is gets involved in, you know, a crime and probably has very little experience dealing with crime, has very little experience in, you know, dealing with this level of crime. This is a very elevated level, you know, such criminals typically graduate to murder. You don't just step right into, you know, planning and orchestrating a murder, and it comes you you look at the root cause and motivation for this, it looks like it was financially motivated. Yeah, and they apparently lived a pretty eccentric lifestyle, to say the least, and they have this like horse show that bombed, and they, you know, you start to see the financial stresses have an impact. She ends up going to a Starbucks, meeting a police officer who she believes was a hitman, and I noticed that in [clears throat] what police had in the case against her was, you know, money she brought with her, she brought a gun to this meeting. What goes into, beyond just her perhaps being recorded saying that I want somebody dead, what do you actually need to have when you're building a case against someone who's going out there thinking that they're going to hire a hitman for murder? You know, this is a very important phase of the investigation. What you obviously want to do because you you're tiptoeing on the line of entrapment if the conversation is one-sided and it's law enforcement led, where you're trying to walk her down this path to get her to incriminate herself. So, you really just want to let them talk. You want to hear what it is that they are trying to plan because maybe what they are planning is not a murder-for-hire. But, you want to hear it in their own words, from their own perspective, and capture their thoughts, and that way you, you know, you'll know exactly what they're trying to do. And also, the very important thing that you will need is an act in furtherance, and that could be a cash payment, it could be a a car, somebody providing a vehicle, could be a firearm. And in this case, she had at least two out of the three with the with money and a gun that she brought with her. Can you build a case against someone, say she didn't bring those things, but she's, you know, recorded saying that she wants to hire someone to take out her ex-husband, her estranged husband at the time. Um, can you still build a case even if you don't have maybe the money that she brought with her or a gun as proof that it's not just words that she wanted to use um in in building this case? I think at that point, what you have is a plan, and you're going to need something a little bit more concrete to actually form the conspiracy. Cuz right now, you're just having talks, and it could very easily be defeated by a defense attorney saying, "Hey, she was having these thoughts, and that's all they were at this time, were just thoughts and conversation, but she actually never wanted to carry out this." And so, what the law requires in most states is that there's an act that goes an overt act, which would be something that's a little more than just a verbal conversation or a thought. You're going to need something more concrete that you can actually put your hands on, which again, like I said, would be payment in most times. When you talk about it, it seems that she doesn't have this, you know, history of she's not a career criminal. And and I know you said like people typically graduate to murder. You know, and in this case, they're at a Starbucks, you know, she's brought everything that the person she thought was a hitman was going to bring. Um, I guess what are some of the rookie moves when you look at her, um not to use a sports term, but kind of some of the rookie moves of someone who, you know, in in reality, when we see like a contract killing, you know, what someone wouldn't actually do if they were a season You know, typically season criminals, the first time they meet somebody, they're not going to commit to committing a crime with them. They're going to want to learn a little bit about them because ultimately, their success in getting away with the murder for hire is going to hinge on how how good your your shooter is. How good your hitman is. How how calculated he is. One mistake by the hitman can lead to everybody ending up going to prison. So, they're going to it's almost like an interview process. And I think with her, you know, in in this case in particular, there was a financial motivation and I think her downfall I seemed also there was a hint of desperation. That she not only was looking for somebody to make it happen, but she wanted it to happen as soon as possible. And I think whenever you rush your planning and, you know, you're you're very you're focused on getting to a date and time versus carefully planning out, there's going to be a lot of mistakes made. She offered $2 million up to $2 million to this police officer that she thought was a hitman. That is a massive amount of money. I mean, I know we've covered cases where, you know, very similar kind of sting operation by police, but it's someone in a lower tax bracket and they're offering like $50,000. And it but but to hear a $2 million number, like what does that tell you about her mindset at the time? That she was willing to offer this much money to allegedly kill her husband. Chris, that that amount of money speaks volumes to where she where her mindset was. She wasn't halfway This is not just some idea that she's going back and forth with. She's committed. And she's ready for a hitman to be as committed as she is. And so, that $2 million bounty is just there to to make sure that, hey, once we get this started, I want to get it done. Like I don't I don't need you freezing up. I don't need you back back door and, you know, I need you to be 100% committed and I'm going to pay you well. At the same time, you know, it's it's one of these where like if she was so desperate to have her husband killed and have someone else do it for $2 million, you know, you you worry I I'm sure for police as she leaves that meeting is like is this someone who's going to take the gun and then she's going to go do it herself. I guess what's the difference typically between people who sadly in domestic situations when things get so bad and so toxic, they put it in their own hands compared to someone who actually, you know, the motivation to go out there and think that they can go and hire a hitman. There are unfortunately there are a lot of people that are caught up in domestic situations that they want to get away from and just really don't know how to do it. And I think the majority of those individuals would rather be victimized than to hurt someone else. And I think that in this case in particular, what stood out to me that I I saw that there was allegations of domestic violence and it and I'm not saying that that wasn't reliable or true. But I also believe that what motivated this case was the financial part that, you know, cuz she very easily could have walked away from. They had already started a divorce process. She could have moved on with her life without killing him. And unfortunately, killing him was a way to provide more financial means for her. And so, you know, divorce is a way to escape the domestic violence, but you need him dead in order for the payout. After a meeting like this when you run a sting operation and, you know, she's saying some very concerning things, she clearly has the proof that she's not just talking, that she wants this actually done. Um and she leaves that Starbucks, like what happens next for law enforcement? Because I'm sure there could be that fear that this is someone so desperate that maybe she crosses that limit and then she does it herself. You know, an intense surveillance operation has to take place because it at this point it's not too far-fetched to believe that maybe she's having this conversation with multiple people and she's just going to go with whoever answers the phone first. So, now that you're aware you've been made aware of the threat, it is your responsibility to make sure you keep her under surveillance until you're able to get her in custody because like you said, it any point in time she could take it in her own hands or she could find someone that's willing to move a little faster. And you know, the the cliche line is like money doesn't buy happiness. And and there's been a lot of example. I mean, people win the lottery and they end up going into bankruptcy and and being depressed and and all of that. But you also look at someone like this and it seems like she had so many things going for her. She had all the material possessions that you would want to have. How common is it that you see people in this level of tax bracket where it just doesn't seem like money can solve their problems? You know, I think that uh you know, another saying that I think very much plays into this case is is is not how much you make, but how much you spend. And so, you can have high levels of income, but the lifestyle that comes with it often gets people trapped into wanting to continue this this this the stigma in being able to keep up with the Joneses. And I think that's what was important to her. She'd been living at a certain level and she I think there may have been some concerns that after she was divorced if she was going to be able to continue to have this lavish lifestyle. And so, what was more important to her at the time was continuing the lifestyle versus, you know, actually uh having her husband alive. And she ends up spending roughly a year in prison. She was sentenced to three for the murder for hire plot and everything that went down at the Starbucks. But she was still facing charges related to this alleged arson at a home which goes back a couple of years. Why is it that she you see kind of a staggering of the investigations where here she is pleading guilty to an incredibly serious charge of trying to solicit someone to kill her estranged husband. But then even when she gets out, she still has these legal headaches that she's going through for another very serious charge in in an alleged arson. But why is it that something like that kind of goes out in this staggered approach as opposed to and maybe she, you know, her attorney couldn't push the limit and and trying to get just everything resolved all at once. You know, I was [clears throat] I was a bit intrigued by that as well. Typically, what'll happen you'll have an individual who come in, they're facing multiple charges and you'll have one plea. Most prosecutors are going to want to get the cases resolved as easy as possible. So, once somebody confesses guilt, you typically try to get them to confess guilt on all cases cuz at that point they're waving the white flag. They're saying, "Hey, you got me." And so, you want to try to clean up as much as you can without having to get in a courtroom. And so, I was really intrigued on that. The only thing that I could think of in this case is that potentially some of these cases may be prosecuted in different courtrooms. It could be um that the arson case may be handled by a different jurisdiction. Yeah. And and you wonder too, I mean, I I I know arson cases, you know, take take a good amount of time. You know, sadly, you know, she was going to face these charges. She ends up, according to police, like taking her own life. Um so, that case will never be resolved or or I guess you could say it's it's resolved now. But I guess what do you just make of how this story comes to an end? You know, and it just seems like this I mean, there's a lot of it that is tragic, you know, no matter how anybody feels about her. I mean, it seems like she had this great life going for her. Marriage ends up in disaster. They put on this horse show that was a disaster, cost them millions of dollars. And then, you know, eventually you just you kind of just see this spiral, you know, continuing on. You know, in law enforcement, how often do you see people kind of go down that path that it's like once one thing goes bad, it's just one thing after another. You know, it is super unfortunate. And I think that what is is super interesting about these type of cases how everybody it typically someone appears normal. They appear to have the life that, you know, some people are in less fortunate situations aspire to have. And so, you spend your life putting in hard work, making sacrifices to get to a certain point, and things start to to fall apart. And I think it's just that one bad seed or that one bad idea how it just unravels and kind of you have a snowball effect. One bad decision leads to another bad decision which leads to an arrest. Now you're you're fighting charges and now you plead guilty, you go to prison. And so, this lifestyle that you were fighting so hard to maintain and and to have has been taken away from you. You've experienced prison. And now what is on the other side of this arson charge could be more prison time. And ultimately, as sad as it is, she made a decision that she definitely didn't want to be behind bars anymore. Yeah, and you talk about, you know, her losing the, you know, luxurious lifestyle she seemed to have just through the financial issues with her marriage, you know, going back to prison. I mean, that is I'm sure something that really made things made things difficult for her. When it comes to like I always find it fascinating with like murder for hire cases cuz I think in a lot of times like we only really hear about it when the person gets arrested. And you don't often hear about, you know, this mysterious figure who you meet up with at a Starbucks over a latte where you would actually have this conversation. Um not that like are I think I've asked you this in the past, but it's like are contract killers real? Cuz you see in the movies like the hitman, the guy that shows up. Um but often it just doesn't feel like I see a lot of those cases where that person actually exists. I mean, in law enforcement, I mean, how common is it to actually have that figure in real life who would show up at a Starbucks asking for $2 million and says, "Look, this is what I do for a living and I'm going to go take care of this for you." And Chris, you know, I think that the the average American the the only experience they have with a hitman is going to be through some Molly Whiskers, you know, or or some some oxygen movie. But there there are hitmen that true hitmen that do exist, but they exist in in the dark underworld of criminality. You're going to have to actually be in the day-to-day world of committing crimes and knowing that, okay, this guy has a criminal resume for this type of thing. And typically, those guys that are willing to do that that have those resumes, they're not going to meet you at a Starbucks because you're in the public eye and there's potential witnesses that if someone overhears this conversation, they're going to they're going to tell someone that what they heard and now there's videotape. So, just the mindset of dealing with someone who would be willing to commit a murder, the average citizen is not going to know that individual and I think it's equally as dangerous and in this situation, you know, it was good that someone passed the information and they weren't willing to do it cuz $2 million, who couldn't use $2 million, right? And you know, I think that the individual that passed the tip onto the police, you know, I commend them for speaking up and saying something because that ultimately helped save someone's life. Yeah, I mean, you just think of like the Starbucks part of it for me is like there's definitely cameras in there. Everybody's probably listening. I mean, I don't know how big this Starbucks was, but it's like you can hear anybody's conversation, you know, in Starbucks. Yeah, you you'd be talking about a contract killing and that would be something that'd be seen as covert. Um, it's just bizarre, but obviously this this story took a very, you know, another tragic turn um and it's taken several tragic turns along the way. Um, Detective Eric Barnes, it's always great to have you on Law & Crime. Thanks for breaking this down with us. Thanks, Chris. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. A CALIFORNIA MAN NOW FACES multiple charges after opening fire on sheriff's deputies and leading investigators on a foot chase through Compton. At about 10:30 a.m. on January 31st, Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies were searching for 36-year-old Mario Bustillo for an outstanding no-bail warrant on a violation of his post-release community supervision. Bustillo had previously been convicted of multiple charges, including assault, vehicle theft, grand theft, felon in possession of a firearm, and possession of narcotics paraphernalia. When Sheriff's deputies found Bustillo in the neighborhood of his last known address, he shot at them. After that, dispatch received a 911 call. Um, so in I I'm not sure if the police are on the way Yeah, they are. They are. But, if you hear anything, Where? Where? The caller can be heard explaining Bustillo is hiding in their garage. Do you still see him? He's inside the garage. He hasn't gotten out of the Inside? Yeah, in the garage. He's inside the garage. After this, Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies request backup from Special Enforcement Bureau personnel, including a helicopter response. During what officials call a barricade operation, Bustillo runs from the garage. Security video catches him running through a backyard and scaling a wall to evade capture. After this, he fires shots at two separate deputies and three officials return fire. Multiple first responders were wearing body cameras at the time, but did not activate them until after the shooting. That means video of the shots fired was captured on body cam, but audio was not recorded until after the shooting. BODY CAMERA VIDEO FROM ANOTHER Sheriff's deputy shows another angle of the post-shooting response. Yeah, I'm watching him, Chase. I got eyes on him. Hey, it's up to every ground unit to let you guys know if they're accounted for. I don't see any deputies that are down or anything like that. So, so far, all I see is just a suspect found out and I still have my eyes on him. I don't see any deputies making contact. Investigators say Bustillo was shot in the torso. He was treated on the scene and later taken to the hospital. Officials later recovered a .40 caliber semi-automatic gun with an extended magazine on the scene. Bustillo now faces multiple charges, including five counts of attempted murder of a peace officer. The officer involved shooting is now under investigation by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office. >> [snorts] >> Come on now. Quick round. NO. >> [screaming] >> TERRIFYING VIDEO shows an attempted carjack caught on dash camera video in California, where two suspects rush a woman who narrowly escapes. No. Investigators say it happened at about 8:00 in the morning on July 21st in Oakland, California. A recording from the driver's personal dash cam shows her driving along Skyline Boulevard. Suddenly, a white Dodge Charger slows down in front of her and blocks the roadway. Come on now. Quick round. Seconds later, two men run straight for her vehicle. No. That's when the driver screams and accelerates PAST THE SUSPECTS. AFTER THAT, SHE SPEEDS OFF away from the scene. Days later, police announced two men and a juvenile were arrested in connection to this and a string of other carjackings in the area. So far, police have not publicly released their names. A Los Angeles podcaster fights off a robber who stole $25,000 [music] worth of his equipment. We hear the full story from the man who's had his business completely shattered. Welcome to After Hours, presented by Law & Crime. I'm Sam Goldberg. So, that was 40-year-old Daniel Lobel, a Los Angeles-based podcaster who had his mobile podcast recording studio ransacked by a robber. Lobel, who hosts his own podcast, also rents out his mobile studio to other LA-based podcasters. According to Lobel, a robber broke into his mobile studio at 1:56 p.m. and stole $25,000 worth of microphones, soundboards, cameras, and other recording equipment. Almost 2 hours after the robbery took place at 3:56 p.m., the burglar then came back to seemingly wipe off his fingerprints on Lobel's bus. That's when Lobel decided to confront him. So, joining us now is Daniel Lobel, the LA-based podcaster you just saw on that video. Daniel's podcast is called The Modern Day Philosophers and the name of his mobile recording studio business is The Podcast Bus. Daniel, thanks so much for coming on. It's my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me on your show. So, I guess first of all, Daniel, how you feeling since this happened? Very shook up. Very, very shook up. Um, I was just talking to my buddy Matty Goldberg and I was telling him, you know, if I don't get out of my car right away, I start feeling like I'm in a horror movie where the cameras are coming closer to the car from outside. I'm I'm like constantly looking over my my shoulders and I'm I'm surveilling everybody in the neighborhood. And uh I'm not sleeping [clears throat] well. Kind of run down because I'm not getting good sleep. Man, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope uh hopefully you're improving a little bit each day. Um, so how did he get into your backyard? He walked up the neighbor's driveway initially and jumped over the wall. And then the second time he came in through the alley and jumped over the wall. So, he entered a different way both times. Huh. So, how did he get into the bus? Was the bus unlocked? It Well, the bus was locked within the premises, you know, I was I was at home, so but it was it was closed up. It's got several doors. It wasn't dead locked, so. You know, but you know, how many layers of locks do you really need? The guy's coming in coming in, you know. And then, how'd you know he came back the second time when he was wiping off his fingerprints? Did you see him on a security camera or you just saw him in your backyard? I just saw him in the backyard. I I came in the house. Well, first of all, I saw the doors of the bus were open, which would never I would never leave the doors of the bus open. So, and I saw that on the security camera. My first thought was that my wife did. Not that she's ever done that, but you know, you just you blame your wife. I'm like, "Oh, she must have needed something and went in there and left the doors open. I guess we'll just go out and close them." I didn't It didn't even occur to me that someone had broken in and robbed me. I walked up to the bus to close the doors and my worst fears were realized when I saw my camera wasn't mounted on the wall. That's the first thing I noticed and I went in there and like my heart just like dropped cuz this is like I worked my ass off to pay for this equipment like one piece at a time for at least a year and a half. It was insane. Like I've just like work and work and work and buy a lens and work and work and work and buy a camera and work and work and work and buy some wires. So, I go back in the house and I'm I I start looking at the surveillance footage to see what happened and I realized I missed the robbery by about 8 minutes. While I was in the house it was happening, but I you know, I just you don't hear what happens in your backyard. And um I I I just kept watching the footage over and over obsessively trying to find any kind of clues. And I did that for like 2 hours, but it felt like 2 minutes. Because I was just like my head was spinning from the robbery. Like then I walked back outside to be like, "Okay, let me just probably assess the damages and see what happened and what I'm what I'm actually missing and everything." And when I walked back outside the second time I I looked up and right in front of me is the guy. And he was back. He was cleaning his fingerprints off the bus. I didn't know what he was doing because my mind didn't have time to process that he is cleaning his fingerprints off the bus. I just saw a guy with mask, same guy from surveillance, now in the yard, now sees me. And I thought this is a killer be killed situation because this guy for all I know he's a psychopath. I don't know what he has on him. You know, he's already robbed me. He's already broken in twice to my property. I don't know if he's got a weapon on him. And my back door is now open and my little girls are inside and my wife is inside. And I have to protect my family. And I realized this is a fight to the death situation. I'm going to have to make sure that, you know I I do everything I can to make sure that guy does not go into my house. So, I went after him. I said, "I'm going to kill you. I'm going to murder you." And uh I tried to pull my my my kids' trampoline out of the playhouse, but it was jammed and I didn't have time to figure it out. So, then I just pushed the playhouse at him. I tried to like jam him between the playhouse and the bus. But he escaped that. Then I ran and grabbed a chair. I was going to beat him with a chair. But he got away. He jumped over the wall. And uh and he started running away. And I I went nuts. I was like I'm like, "Come back. I just want to talk to you. I just want to talk to you." Because I I And and then I said and then and then like he kind of like turned around as he was running and I said, "I'm going to blow your brains out. I'm going to shoot you. I'm going to kill you." You know, like I I don't want want that guy ever coming back again. But like my my inner Tony Soprano awoke and, you know, like I was like I was I was ready to to um do whatever I had to do to protect my family in that moment. >> Yeah, it makes sense. It's like you said, your family's inside. It is in that moment a killer be killed type situation. Did he say anything to you when you were confronting him? He says, "I didn't do anything to you. I didn't do anything to you." Which is obviously absurdly untrue. Yeah, it's like the But he was I getting wiped fingerprints. I was going to say then why was it if he said that, why was he in a mask and wiping his fingerprints? Obviously I think he was just trying to confuse me. And I've also found a suspect from watching hours and hours of surveillance footage of people walking past my house. And um I think he's a white guy. And I think he put on I think he's robbed people before. And I think he knows like if he speaks to to try and make himself sound like a different ethnicity to throw people off. Um that's my takeaway. Um so, I think he's doing a very bad Spanish accent. Huh. So, you mentioned you filed the police report. You think he's a white guy. Has there been any updates other than that? No, I mean I found footage of this guy um who fits this profile walking past my house in a very suspicious weird way where his girlfriend trails him by like a house. And then like he goes somewhere and then she follows him like diagonally and then they cross the street and they both disappear together. And then they both walk back together. I don't When they walked past my house they walked back together on the other side of the street. But when they walked past my house on my side of the street, they didn't want to be walking together. I don't know what that's about, but I suspect And the way the guy was walking, his posture uh the way his arms swung when he walked, the way his knees bend um uh his height, his weight, the the way his shirt falls over his pants. Like people buy like certain length shirts. Um this guy buys shirts that are a little like too long. You know, you know, like people buy the long kind of shirt. So, anyway one thing I've heard is that like people tend to dress the same even if they're wearing different clothes, they tend to buy the same kind of clothes. Um so, anyway, I'm I'm pretty sure this is the guy. I said that to the police, but I never heard anything about it. It sounds like you're on it. I I think Detective Dan is a fitting nickname. Uh have you gotten any sort of extra protection since this happened? I I've uh picked up a few weapons. Makes sense. >> disclose more than that, but I got a few weapons. What's the what's the plan to rebuild the studio beyond the GoFundMe? That is the plan. I mean uh I have insurance that is not coming through. I had to get a lawyer. Uh I don't know what that'll turn out to be, but uh they found a technicality by which they feel they don't have to pay. I think that's uh that's what insurance companies do best is they figure out how not to help you. I'm hoping that they surprise me and turn this all around and become an honorable company, but that remains to be seen. Um and uh and so the GoFundMe at this point is it. And um besides from my pending legal battle with insurance and I just want to get back to work. I just want to get equipment and get in there and get my clients back in there and get back to creating content and making money for my family and paying the rent and normal life to the extent that it can be normal right now. Um I I would really just uh like to get back to work. Yeah, and I hope you do sooner than later. I would love to have you back on when either you or the police catch this guy. So, Daniel Lobell, thanks so much for coming on. His GoFundMe link is in the description. Really appreciate you, Dan. I thank you for your time and your great questions and your wonderful hospitality. Thanks for having me on the show. Of course. And if I'm ever in LA, maybe we'll do after hours in your bus, too. Oh, I would love that. Please. I got you. Thanks, Dan. And again, sorry this happened to you. Thank you. Get on the ground. He's got the knife in his hand. Get down. Drop it. A California man is caught on body camera video charging at police with a knife. The incident led to a deadly officer-involved shooting. Get on the ground. He's got the knife in his hand. Does he have a knife? Get down. It happened on Friday, April 7th in Oxnard, California, about an hour and a half northwest of Los Angeles. At about 6:00 that evening, multiple 911 calls came in for a man wielding a knife. Can you ask him what he's reporting, please? All right. Yes, he's saying he would like to report someone that's threatening someone on the street. He's holding a knife. Is he currently threatening someone with a knife right now? Yes, he's threatening us. We're uh over by the garage. Yeah, but there's the guy in in back of our house that has a knife that's threatening my husband. So, we just came inside cuz my kids are out there, but can you guys have somebody come out? >> Is everybody back inside? Yeah, he was chasing my husband with a knife right now. He chased her husband. Okay. But your husband's not injured and he's back inside the house, right? Yeah, we just came back inside, but he's out there. Oxnard police officers arrived to find a suspect, later identified as 18-year-old Christian Torres, holed up in a truck that did not belong to him. Officials worked to get Torres out of the vehicle for about 5 minutes before he stepped out with a knife in hand. Ring camera captured video of Torres approaching officers with a knife. Body camera video shows officers calling for Torres to drop the weapon, but he refuses. Get on the ground. >> the ground. Drop it. Hey, give him one more command. Drop the knife. When Torres still does not drop the knife, officers tase him. GET ON THE GROUND. TORRES STILL DOESN'T STOP, so officers use a less lethal gun firing a bean bag to stop him. Drop it. When Torres still doesn't stop, an officer opened fire. This video shows another angle of the moments leading up to that deadly shooting. After the shooting, officers on scene performed life saving measures for Torres, but he was later pronounced dead. After the shooting, five officers were placed on administrative leave. Four have since returned and the fifth is expected to return back to work soon. Right now, the shooting is still under investigation. Deadly wildfires spreading across Southern California have left thousands of people without homes. At least [music] one of those fires could have been started on purpose. LAPD even investigating a homeless man for arson. Here's everything we know about the fires right [music] now. At least 10 people have died as a result of these wildfires, but we won't have an official death [music] toll for quite a while because it's still unsafe for first responders to go into some of these burn [music] zones. Tens of thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes and rush to safety and at least 10,000 buildings have been burnt to the ground, including the homes of some big name celebrities like Paris Hilton or Adam Brody. At the time of this recording, the fires are ongoing across the Los Angeles area and there are actually multiple fires pushing up dangerously close to LA landmarks like the Hollywood sign or Sunset Boulevard. The biggest fire is the Palisades fire. It's between Malibu and Pacific Palisades, even pushing up against Santa Monica. There's also the Eaton fire from the Pasadena area into the Angeles National Forest. The Hurst fire is north of the San Fernando Valley and the Lydia fire is in the Antelope Valley area. And then there's the Kenneth fire and this is the fire that could have been started on purpose in an act of arson. His name wasn't released, but we did learn that the man was homeless and in his 30s. Neighbors in the Woodland Hills area reported the man started the fire about 4:30 Thursday evening. They called 911 right away and as they were waiting for police to arrive, a bunch of the neighbors came and surrounded the man to make sure he couldn't run off. It was basically a giant citizen's arrest. Within 20 minutes, he was taken into custody. Early on, there were reports that man started the fire with a propane tank or a flamethrower and as of yesterday, an arson investigation is underway. So this story, new updates coming out almost by the second and it's just devastating news one after another. But to talk about it a little bit more in depth, we're going to bring in former CIA officer and FBI agent Tracy Walder. And Tracy, right from the jump, you're from Southern California and your family has been affected by all this, right? Yes, I'm from Southern California. I was born in LA County and then when I was about seven, my parents moved to Orange County, but unfortunately, my first cousins live in the Palisades. What has it been like for them? Have they had to evacuate their homes? I'm assuming. Yes, so they lost their home, which I mean, the reality is is pretty much everyone in the Palisades lost their home. But I think even more importantly is that their children all lost their schools. And so, you know, the reality is is even if you try to rebuild there, right? There's no infrastructure to help the rest of the population. And so, it will be very interesting to see how and if the Palisades comes back because I just I think the loss of infrastructure isn't being, you know, talked about as much. And I feel like it's an overwhelming amount of destruction here because we have multiple wildfires going on at once. It's something I don't think I've ever seen before. I know you probably have followed California wildfire history better than I have. Have you ever seen anything to this magnitude? No, I mean, I'm 46 years old and lived my family still is in Orange County as well. And you know, even in Orange County, we would get fires a lot in Laguna Canyon where I I'm from and all of that, but nothing like this. And it would it what I think is even more difficult is so my my best friend was evacuated because of that Runyon Canyon fire. She lives kind of right there. And so she went to her parents' house in Calabasas only to be evacuated because of the Kenneth fire that was in Calabasas and Woodland Hills. And then went south, but then they extended the Palisades evacuations into sort of the Santa Monica area. So the reality is is there's almost nowhere to go safely in Orange County. And so that's why, you know, a lot of folks are considering fleeing down into Orange County and those other areas. That's what I've never seen before. Certainly, as you mentioned, we get we get fires. We just do. But nothing like this where there's nowhere safe, if necessarily, to evacuate to. That sounds like a true nightmare. Going one place to the next and these fires just keep popping up. And you brought up the Kenneth fire, which is a huge one I want to talk about today because we've gotten word that it was actually started because of arson. Allegedly, this homeless man started it on purpose. How does an investigation like this even begin? You know, first of all, I want to say that it's being reported that they actually caught him within 20 minutes of this breaking out, which is very interesting to me. I think one of the reasons that it was raised initially that this may be arson is just for those people who may be familiar with this area. I think a lot of us thought this fire was intentional simply because the embers wouldn't have gone in that direction. Some of the other ones are explainable based on winds and embers and the direction and all of that, but this one I think really immediately jumped out to investigators as you know, being potentially arson. And so I think that right there, they were already on the lookout. But then I also think too, you really have citizens and neighbors who have basically jumped into action, right? And caught this individual and what's being shown is in video as basically red-handed. So I do believe that investigators and firefighters already suspected initially that this fire was arson based on the burn pattern, based on how it started and based on the location of where it started. You talked about the neighbors and I want to bring them up too because this is almost an incredible story. The fact that they found this guy 20 minutes or so after he allegedly started this fire, which is a huge quick response and according to some of the neighbors who were there, they all kind of band together and surrounded him. It kind of made me think of like the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez, also in the LA area where people banded together to get this suspect. I mean, what do you make of all of that? Are these people going to be talking with FBI or investigators? I mean, this is community policing, right? At its its finest. That's exactly what's going on there. You know, they saw something suspicious and obviously they they did something about it. Not to mention he also had incendiary devices in his hand, basically a Molotov cocktail, if you will. And so the fact that they got him without violent incident, quite frankly, and were able to hold him there. Yes, they are all now obviously witnesses to this and will absolutely be questioned by LAPD, you know, and and the FBI. There's no question because now they are involved in this investigation. The Molotov cocktail, that is just crazy to me. Some of the articles say things like flamethrower, which is something I've never seen before. I mean, I'm reading New York Times articles that mention a flamethrower that this guy apparently used. It's just crazy. But then when we're thinking about evidence, the fact that we have fire, a lot of it is burnt, does that make things more complicated? It does make things more complicated, you know, but if you look at, you know, a lot of his arrest video, they have the flamethrower, excuse me, on the hood of the police car. So it's very obvious. And you see him in the video with it in his hand. Yes, obviously in a fire, evidence is burnt. Fingerprints are burnt. Biological forensic evidence is not necessarily usable. However, one thing I think they may have going for them then they, you know, didn't have 10, even 20 years ago, is video. And I do think a lot of people forget this. It's a densely populated area. Yes, parts of Calabasas are are more open, but I believe he was arrested in Woodland Hills, which is pretty densely populated. It's actually where I was born. And so I think there, what they're going to have are Ring doorbell cameras. They're going to know directionality in terms of where he came from. They're going to know where this fire started. The fire department will be able to tell that after the investigation. And my hope is that they will be able to basically piece together his movements through digital evidence. And then also if he had a cell phone on him as well, putting him from a geo-locational standpoint in that location will also be helpful. These modern day technologies that we have, I feel like you and I talk about them every single time we have an interview. And it's really cool that we have them. These phones and like you said, Ring doorbell camera, that is just next level. So I think that's really going to be important. I'm wondering about motive, too. I know that investigators, after they took him into custody, would of course want to talk to him. Obviously, it's up to him whether he wants to talk or get a lawyer or whatever it may be. But are they going to be searching for a motive? I think they will. I mean, in a lot of fires, unfortunately, especially, you know, from my time living in California, my family still being there, a lot of these are intentionally set. In this case, you know, maybe it's a copycat situation. I don't know. Maybe this is an individual that was upset. You know, this is an area where there's a lot of celebrities, you know, and a lot of wealth concentrated into a location. Maybe that was a vendetta. Maybe this is someone who just loved fire. I don't know necessarily the answer to that question and I think it's probably all over the board. But I do think that unfortunately, one of the things that LAFD and LAPD are really having to grapple with is copycats. I mean, look, even yesterday, they were grappling with people putting drones up in the air illegally and running into the fire suppression aircraft. And so, you know, I really think, unfortunately, this is something that they're having to grapple with. And I know this isn't something traditionally maybe that the FBI would get involved in because it would be the fire department and the police department in LA. But, because of the magnitude of everything, do you think FBI or CIA or any larger unit would help with all of this? Yeah, this was the FBI office I actually worked at, to be totally honest with you, is the LA field office. And so, yes, I believe this may not be a federal investigation yet. I I don't know how they're going to ultimately classify it, but I do think that their resources are absolutely being used. Because the reality is is LAPD and LAFD are very spread thin right now. There's no question that they are spread very, very thin. And in situations like that, where resources are are just too far spread, that is when they will bring in the FBI, especially if they're under a time crunch. Um, a lot of what the FBI can do in terms of geo geo-locating cell phone all of that, they can do so much more quickly. And so, this may not be an investigation where the FBI is the lead on it, per se, but in my opinion, there is no question they have already brought in been brought in in terms of resources. That's so helpful because, as you pointed out, LAPD LAFD being spread so thin, and this is wild amount of buildings that have been burned down and people who no longer have homes. So, I'm really glad that we have them helping. Do you think those are some of the next steps of the investigation looking for others? You know, I I do think that there could be more people involved. I do think that some of these fires, um, may have been intentionally set. Um, in terms of the spreading and all of that, like, they were dealing with 100 plus mile per hour winds and couldn't get aircraft up there. We know that. That that is a known factor here. But, we don't know, right, how a lot of these started. A lot of information hasn't necessarily been given on that because I think the fire department might not know, right, at this point in time. And so, I would be interested to see um, how those investig- investigations play out. But, in all honesty, I'm not sure that they have time to investigate that right now because these fires are still burning and they have to put them out and that's really issue number one. Then, they'll go back and look at point of origin and how these all started. You're right, the main priority is getting people out, making sure they're safe, you know, putting out the fires. So, you're right, it's kind of crazy that we have these two major things going on at once because we will want information from the investigation eventually. Whenever that does happen, do you have any ideas for like a timeline? I know we don't know for sure when these fires could be put out, but what would you guess? I think the answer to that question is it depends. Um, it depends if the fire department deems the them as criminal. And if that's the case, then obviously LAPD is going to be brought in. Clearly, the fire department does have their own forensic team who goes through, looks at point of origin, and looks at how they started. But, I think we could be looking at probably weeks to a month, um, in terms of this situation because these fires are so out of control and even today Santa Ana winds are supposed to start back up. And so, I in my opinion, I don't necessarily see an answer to that, um, soon, but I do think that's exactly why the FBI has been brought in. It seems like it's just one thing after another for the Los Angeles Southern California community that they're dealing with. You brought up the winds, so really still a lot going on. And as you said, we have a lengthy line ahead of us. But, if we're jumping to that, just guessing, do you have any ideas based on your experience what any sort of charges could be in all of this? I mean, arson, but you even mentioned it could be federal. Yeah, I mean, obviously arson is the most basic charge, right, that we're looking at here. But, people died as a result of this. I believe the death toll, at least right now, at the time of this interview, is about 10. Um, so, people died as a result of this. And so, I do wonder if there could be, you know, criminal murder charges, um, as well as a result of this, which would obviously add on top of the arson charge. They're not just going to be charged with one thing here, right? At least I don't see that happening. Um, I see multiple charges that we're looking at. Yes, there could be, um, federal charges. If you look at some of the property that has been destroyed, like Will Rogers, um, state beach, some of those were protected by the state. Um, so, they were state homes, right, or state places. And so, at that point, the federal government could come in and levy charges. My gut says that may not happen. Um, I think LA has the capability to probably pursue those charges, but certainly I've been wrong before. Here on Law & Crime, we basically focus on crime. I mean, it's literally in our name. So, that's one of the reasons we're talking about this today. But, what is paramount is everyone being safe there and evacuating. And I know before the interview, you and I had talked a bit about resources or what people could do. Do you have anything you want to share? Well, the first thing I actually want to share is that everyone in this area, in my opinion, needs to have a go bag packed in some way, shape, or form. I know it's not a pleasant thing to think about, but I think a lot of people didn't imagine this happening to them. And so, when they left, they packed for maybe a day. I think we need to have a go bag for 7 days. And I think that people need to round up things that are important to them and have those packed already. Um, we have the gift of time right now and that's some people don't have to get out of their homes right now. So, I think that's the first thing that we need to talk about. Also, the LA fire department does have a foundation that is set up, um, to deliver more funds to them and more funds to victims. Also, the LA Humane Society, as well, is working, um, with with displaced animals. I'm glad you brought up the animals, too, because that's what I would be thinking of, my dog, making sure my family's safe, too, and he's part of the family. Our hearts go out to all of the people involved in all of this and we're hoping for a quick resolution. I know that's a pipe dream at this point, but hoping for some sort of solace for the people in Southern California. Tracy, best of luck to you and your family and thank you for coming on and breaking it all down for us. Thank you for having me, Sierra. On Friday, [snorts] LAPD officials announced that the man they originally [music] thought was involved in the arson will not be charged. Police investigated the case and even spoke with this suspect and eventually determined there wasn't enough evidence or probable cause to arrest him. From here, the Kenter fire and all the others in the area are still under investigation. I don't have anything. Huh? I don't have anything. Dude, huh? You go. You go. A suspect is shot and killed after back-to-back officer-involved shootings. The first one involving a cop that was off-duty. At about 11:20 a.m. on August 24th, an off-duty officer from North Hollywood was in Bakersfield, about 2 hours north of Los Angeles. The officer called 911 when he noticed a potential burglary suspect loitering in a neighborhood. 911. Yeah, this is I'm going to report a possible burglary, uh, burglary suspect. He's going in and out of houses. Okay, and where at? It's that 113 And ready? Is that where he currently is inside? Security video shows the suspect, 29-year-old Jason Boles, approach a home in the neighborhood. >> [snorts] >> It's Jason Boles. Sorry. Next, Boles is caught on camera grabbing a sweatshirt and gun from a trash can. The next moments are caught on 911 and security camera recordings simultaneously as Boles approaches the off-duty cop with a gun in hand. Get out of here. Is that the house he's currently inside, sir? Yeah, he's got like a gun. A gun? I'm an off-duty officer. I need help out here. Okay, I need you to tell me what's going on. Nothing. Nothing. Huh? Nothing. Huh? I don't have anything. Dude, huh? You go. You go. After that, shots are fired. The off-duty officer drives off and Boles can be seen pointing the gun in his direction. >> I'm not going inside the house. As the off-duty officer leaves the area, Bakersfield police officers arrive on the scene. That's when a second officer-involved shooting takes place. Bowles was injured in that second shooting and later pronounced dead on the scene. A Bakersfield police officer was also shot and injured, but was treated [music] and is expected to be okay. Right now, the incident is still under investigation by both the Los Angeles Police Department and the Bakersfield Police Department. On Prime Crime. A lot of you have been asking me how to do the Tony Montana impression. I'm going to try explaining it. All right. How'd you like that? People loved it. That's why they followed him. Wow, he portrays these [music] characters so well. When a TikTok star lets fame go to his head. Getting a million followers, getting all this >> [music] >> adulation. It's more than his ego can handle. I'll bring you to San Diego for what? So you can run to your friends? You're not even American citizen. I brought you to this country. Was there this blurring of boundaries between his online persona [music] and himself? Internet stardom, love, jealousy, and cocaine make a deadly cocktail. >> [music] >> My wife and another man were I found them dead on the couch. Bullet wounds to the Bullet wounds to the face. >> [music] >> Hey there everybody, I'm Jesse Weber and welcome to Prime Crime, where we break down some of the most compelling and memorable true crime social media fairytale. Anna and Ali >> [music] >> were living in Okinawa, Japan when they first met. He was in Japan [music] um stationed there with the Air Force. She was working at a bar in Okinawa. She's from the Philippines. [music] He just flipped out over when he first met her. Thought she was beautiful. Um she was also, I think, attracted to him. He had a very, very big personality. He was somebody who was doing well in the military >> [music] >> and um sparks flew. They fell in love and together they moved from Japan to the United States, to Virginia. [music] They had a little girl and it seemed that they had a beautiful marriage. You ever look at your person and think to yourself, "Wow, how did I land you?" Ali Abulaban finds an outlet for his creativity by making [music] TikTok videos. So in 2019, Ali starts this as a hobby and he is very gifted and talented, I think, [music] at imitating these characters that are on TV. And in particular, his favorite movie was Scarface. And he was [music] really amazing at um impersonating Tony Montana, the character that Al Pacino plays. [music] You guys aren't real. Are you kidding me? No, what? No, I'm I'm serious. Nah, I'm real. Both of you guys are characters that I play. But over time, he begins incorporating Anna into the videos as well. The two of them are dancing together and they're interacting with each other and again, appear from TikTok videos to be this [music] couple that's drama-free at one point, as they say, and seems to be incredibly happy together. In Virginia, Ali and Anna really did seem to have it all. They were the perfect couple living an American dream. Over time, though, Anna really began missing >> [music] >> her friends and she ends up taking a trip um to San Diego to spend some time with one of her [music] friends. And when she's there, she just falls in love with San Diego. She realizes how much she wants to be closer to [music] his support network. Ali, and he also saw what was in it for him, which was, "If I'm in San Diego, I'm 2 hours away [music] from LA and this is going to give me an easier opportunity to do networking, to do other collaborations with other content creators." >> [music] >> So I think it was a win-win. So in February of 2021, they moved their family to [music] San Diego. Uh they got an apartment at the Spire San Diego high-rise building. Anna was working [music] on and off in San Diego. Uh Ali got a job also as a contractor [music] on the naval base with a security clearance. Once they got to San Diego, uh they continued their TikTok [music] channel, which flourished. I've never met anyone else like you. And I don't think I ever will. I'm not saying that cuz it's cliche. I'm saying [music] that because no one's ever moved me the way that you do. They had a lot of followers. >> [music] >> It seemed they were living a really fun, lavish life. She's reconnecting with friends of hers. She's [music] getting some positive feedback from people who are watching TikTok. Both Ali and Anna are enjoying the nightlife of San Diego. They are beginning to go out more as a couple. Um they're both beginning to do um to experiment [music] with different drugs, particularly cocaine. The cocaine seemed to have uh quite an effect on Ali. It made him controlling, made him aggressive. Uh again, something that just doesn't mix well with a relationship, especially a relationship with troubles. Give me my phone back. Ali, give me my phone back. Miramar Keys, that's the I said the birthday. I have fun. Oh, so you're going? Who's going to be there? I TOLD YOU WE'RE GOING TO THE HOTEL. YEAH, THIS IS THE AFTER-PARTY AND YOU'RE GOING. NO, I'M NOT THERE. YEAH? WHY DO YOU THINK I CAN BRING A KID? YEAH? Cuz nobody's there but girls, you stupid Ali begins to spiral [music] and he starts to feel that Anna is hanging out with her friends too much. He's [music] berating her for not having sex with him. He's becoming more abusive, controlling, and uh he starts to think that she's cheating on him. I think his own insecurities are really taking over and he's starting to see things that aren't there. The disagreements escalate, leading to the 911 call Anna makes on September 8th. And that was the instance where while Anna was calling the dispatcher and [music] speaking with the 911 operator to report what Ali had done to her, he was making that live social [music] media post. I'll bring you to San Diego for what? So you can run to your friends? You're not even American citizen. I brought you to this country. Name one man that would do that for you. Yeah, just don't say anything to him, that way there he doesn't flare [music] up again. Oh great, you're on the phone with police while I said that? Wow. I thought you were done with the phone call. Okay, great. Are we on speaker? >> [music] >> Yes, ma'am. Can you take me off the speaker, please? Yes. Then Ali fled the apartment after Anna called 911. >> [music] >> So police arrived. San Diego Police Department. Yes, I'm here. Okay, I'm here. I think he just left the house. He's left? Is it just you? It's just me and my daughter's here. Is she hurt? I might need the paramedics. Yeah. Yes, please. So what was the fight about? They were having an argument over a suitcase. Ali got mad. They were standing in the bedroom. [music] Ali pushed Anna down towards the foot of their bed and she fell on the ground, scraped [music] her knee and her elbow, and hit her head on the foot of the bed. You were on your knees right here >> [music] >> fixing the suitcase, removing stuff. Yeah. And then he pushed you over there. And then, can you show me where uh your body part contacted that area? >> Right here. Like my my head. Sorry. So police got Anna's statement, took photographs of her injuries, and she was advised about obtaining a restraining order and the resources to obtain a restraining order against Ali. However, ultimately never filed one or sought one out. And so, particularly in September and October, things become very, very difficult. And Anna thinks is becoming increasingly concerned and increasingly convinced that is no longer safe to be in this relationship or to be in this living space with him. And then Anna moved out of the apartment with their daughter, stayed with her friend Claire while Ali stayed in the apartment because he refused to leave. He alternates between trying to be super sweet and, you know, coax her back into the relationship and then becoming abusive again. Hey Anna. Um Should we say good morning? Good morning to Amira. Um I just figured instead of texting you, I'll send you a video. My intention here is to just let you know >> [snorts] >> I get it. And I'm so sorry. I really am so sorry for what I'm putting you through. How stupid. What happened to me? It was the drugs? Was it my insecurities? And then he is angry and he begins doing really [music] strange things in terms of recording their arguments and going on, you know, Tik Tok and really putting her down and berating [music] her and, you know, just recording things that you would never expect him to record. She don't think. She don't think. She don't think. And you know what? Goodbye to your little citizenship there, Miss Filipina. But I'm not I'm not petty. I don't I don't call the police on people I love. Get out of here, bro. This lured me to San Diego for what? So she could be a hoe with all her friends? Stop lying to them, Ali. No, it's the truth. Yeah, you got friends now. Now you don't have a husband. Okay. And so between July and October of 2021, there are nine phone calls [music] to police from primarily by neighbors and people who are overhearing this, concerned about Anna and about what's happening to her. She had told him the marriage was over towards the end of September that there was no going back after he was with another woman sexually. And so, [music] she started ultimately seeing Rayburn Barron. Rayburn Barron was a friend of Anna's, somebody that Ali did not like from the get-go. Um but he was described as being a caring guy, caring for his family. And overall a good person. Ali was still living [music] in the apartment and then they agreed that Anna and their daughter would move back in. And so Anna and their daughter moved back in on October 18th, moved out. His father paid for a hotel for him in Mission Bay, but their marriage was deteriorating. There was more violence by Ali, more controlling and possessive behavior over Anna. Enough! Ali, enough! You know Can somebody please help me? Hello? Ali! Stop. Give me the phone! You're holding my finger! I told her to leave this house. Yeah, that's not cool. Give me my phone! >> With a bunch of guys? Give me my phone! Bunch of guys, huh? >> Give me my phone! There's no guys. Give me my phone! He's becoming more stressed about [music] the fact that he's starting to feel like he is losing control of his wife. I want to know what's going on. Talk to me. Respond to my texts. I gave you seven texts. You're not responding. You're not answering my calls. You said you're not going out tonight. You lie to me all the time. Convinced Anna is cheating, Ali Abulaban comes up with a devious plan to find out once and for all. Ali was [music] researching how to install a listening device, uh how to install an application [music] on an iPad, how to listen to her room remotely, how to spy [music] on your wife, and then ultimately decided to activate a Discord application on their daughter's iPad, which was inside the apartment. He wants to know what's going on with her [music] all the time. He is increasingly paranoid about her faithfulness to him. [music] So on the morning of October 21st, 2021, Ali used that [music] key card that he had kept, didn't tell Anna that he was going into the apartment. I entered the apartment. >> [music] >> Uh at some point located the iPad, activated that Discord application. I also activated an application on his phone [music] uh to be able to listen to live conversations from the apartment. Then, Ali leaves the apartment before Anna returns [music] with her friend, Rayburn Barron. So Anna and Rayburn Barron went back to [music] the apartment at Spire San Diego around 2:00 on October 21st, [music] 2021. Ali is listening in on the device that was planted on [music] his daughter's iPad. He then hears Anna and a male's voice in the [music] apartment. He heard Anna giggling with another man inside their apartment. So he got into his Jeep. At some point he loaded his gun. Coming up, Ali Abulaban's anger boils over. When someone is in a fit of rage, [music] they are not in their right frame of mind. He was high on drugs. He felt powerful. He had a gun. He felt [music] like he could end them both for deceiving him. >> [music] >> She was a friend. She was a friend. Good idea. October 21st, 2021. Ali Abulaban's are confirmed when he hears on a listening device that his estranged wife, Anna, has a male friend at the apartment they once shared. Ali is furious and he rushes over. He parked outside [music] of the Spire parking garage. Ali entered the parking garage on foot, ran down the parking garage ramp. Uh this was on surveillance video around 2:50 p.m. on October 21st. You can see Ali running back to the street and then back down the parking ramp. He was adjusting the belt around his holster. At 2:53 p.m. Ali started an audio recording on his cell phone that he put in his jeans pocket. And then you can see on the surveillance video at 2:55 p.m. Ali enters the elevator at the parking garage level. And it was a 3-minute elevator ride up to the 35th floor. You can see Ali with a black baggy sweatshirt on, so covering in the holster that was inside his jeans. Uh his phone also not visible in his pocket. He had the white key card. He flashed it to press 35. And then he rode the elevator up calmly. He would have a couple of short interactions with other individuals who got on and off the elevator. And then ultimately at 2:58 p.m. Ali ran off the elevator, not even waiting for the doors to fully open. Ali ran down the hallway. Uh this was captured on a Nest video. Then he turned the corner, ran down that short hallway to their apartment. He still has the audio recording on, so you can hear him running uh with the phone in his pocket. Then you hear him using the key card to enter the apartment. Uh you hear the door open. And then you hear Anna scream 1 second after Ali entered the apartment. He racked his gun and you hear a clink as if if a bullet fell to the ground. And then Ali fired the first shot. Ali shot at Ray first. Then he's walking towards the living room. He racks his gun again. He fired four more shots. They're about 1 second apart. Uh he killed Ray first. And he shoots him twice in the head and once in the throat. Meanwhile, there's Anna just terrified. And then he stood in front of Anna. He racked his gun again. And she screams. And he turns to Anna and he shoots her in the forehead. He has taken pictures >> [music] >> of the bodies of his wife and her friend, Ray. He's also recorded the whole thing. Around 3:07 and [music] 3:09, Ali sent text messages with that photograph of the dead bodies to both of his parents and to his friend. [music] Why would he videotape this? Why would he take pictures? Um, you know, was there this blurring of boundaries between his online persona and himself? He [music] was, in some respects, documenting his victory over the situation. It definitely feels as if he was not in reality. He didn't realize the culpability that he was admitting to when he filmed the the killings, [music] when he took photographs of their bodies afterward, and when he called folks to tell them [music] what had happened and admitted to it. You could hear it in the apartment lobby, where he is in the hallways of the apartment, where he's telling his mother, "I killed her. I killed her." He doesn't seem to have any remorse until he's saying, "I'm sorry, Mom. I'm sorry, Mom." Which is very interesting because [music] he seems very cold-blooded and matter-of-fact about the killings of Anna and Ray, but almost soft when it comes to how much he's hurt his mom in committing this brutal crime. At about 12 minutes after the murders occurred, he makes a 911 call where he says that he has come to the apartment, [music] and he has discovered the bodies of his wife and another man. [music] San Diego emergency, dispatcher 8107. Yes, ma'am. My wife and another man were I found them dead on the couch. Both one I'll pull it over to the kitchen. Wait, someone was shot? Two people, a man and my wife. So, he is telling them about this crime scene, but he's portraying it as somebody who is a witness to the aftermath of these two murders. Yeah, bye. >> Please help my wife. Please help me. Okay, hold on, sir. Sir, sir, standby. I'm bringing on my supervisor. What is her name? My name is Ali. Ali? Okay. Yes, I'm her husband. I'm her husband. Tell me what you saw when you went in there. I saw my wife on the couch. There was blood coming out of her head. Wife is on the And the man is there. I don't know who he is. His name is I mean, I know him. His name is Ray. I couldn't even I couldn't even believe what I saw. It was so terrible. Ali was calm at first during that call, and then tried to say it was horrible, please help them, and then hung up the call. And so, officers were already dispatched to the Spire building. Ali Abulaban leaves the building to pick up his daughter from school. So, he's gone by the time the officers arrive. We got two down. We got two down. Emergency entry. I need a team. I need a team. I need a team. Clear this out. Someone came here and shot them. That's the guy that he's describing. Yeah, she They both took rounds to the Do me a favor. Help out with security for us. I don't want someone coming back, >> [music] >> doubling back over here, and smoking us, okay? Okay. And so, the officers were [music] able to gather information on who they thought the suspect was and the vehicle associated with the apartment, [music] and they followed him for a short while, and then Ali pulled the vehicle over, and the officers arrested [music] him. And at that point, as he's getting out, he tells Amira that he's [music] hurt Mommy, and that he's going to be going away for a long time. To tell a 5-year-old [music] little girl in that moment that you hurt Mommy, it's it's just really tragic for her. Ali was arrested on two charges of first-degree murder, a charge for Anna and one for Ray. Up next, as attorneys prepare for trial, no one anticipates Ali Abulaban's outbursts in the courtroom. And so, it's perfectly reasonable for me to ask those questions. All right. Let me make something clear right now. If there's any disturbance, you will be put outside. >> [music] >> So, you were looking up trash cans because you wanted to hide some bodies, correct? I'm sorry. You're out of your mind. After Ali Abulaban killed his wife, Anna, and her friend, Rayburn Barron, he remains in custody for years while authorities gather evidence in the case. The San Diego Police Department conducted an amazing investigation, was able to get warrants for both Ali and Anna's cell phones, their social media pages, the apartment, Ali's car, and so, [music] all of those pieces of evidence were looked at. If I see that, I don't even know what the [ __ ] I'll do if I see my wife kissing on another man. I'll go to jail, bro. We looked through many, many, many videos, listened to audio messages, looked at photographs, looked at Ali's web search history. Uh, all of this was done to prove [music] that this was first-degree murder. And Ali Abulaban didn't do much to help his defense. He did jailhouse interviews where you could see how angry he would become. You could see how he [music] would trigger and he'd start shouting. I'm broken. I'm devastated. I lost my wife. MY GOAL IS TO JUST TRY TO GET A HOLD OF MY FAMILY. It was slipping through my fingers. I'm the murderer here. I lost her. I lost I lost the love of my life. I lost the love of my life. Everybody Everybody I reached out to when I was going through this problem, "Dude, you're so handsome. You're famous on the internet. You can get any girl." I know I can. I DON'T WANT TO. I LOVE MY WIFE. AND IT REALLY WAS KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD see on these TikTok videos. See, when he was portraying Scarface or Godfather, these characters, If you want to be forgiven, you must first confess your sins to me. Ali Abulaban's murder trial begins in May of 2024, about 3 years after the deaths of Anna and Rayburn. But the battle between prosecution and defense is not simply about guilt or innocence. That was the defendant executing Anna and Ray. Cold, calculated murders. The defendant was jealous, controlling, and violent during their relationship. And Anna finally left him and was moving on. But the defendant couldn't take it. If he couldn't have Anna, no one could. So, the prosecution was very confident because they felt they were going to be able to prove [music] that Ali did premeditate this crime. Now, you are going to hear the defendant saying that he wanted to kill another man that Anna was with, that he'd go to jail if he found her with another man. You will hear overwhelming evidence that the defendant intended to murder Anna and Ray. At the end of this trial, I will ask that you find the defendant guilty of two counts of first-degree murder. Is that heat of passion, or was it premeditated? [music] It could be that he was honestly curious as to whether or not she was cheating on him like he believed she was doing, and then when he heard it, it just [music] it just sent him into a tailspin. The defense's ultimate goal is to paint a picture that this is >> [music] >> either a heat of passion or heat of the moment, which could reduce something from first-degree [music] murder to second-degree murder. That would be the strategy here to get something reduced from first-degree to second-degree or voluntary manslaughter. She drove him to the brink. Anna knew Ali well. She knew exactly what to say and how to say it to cut him directly to the bone. She knew his underlying vulnerabilities, his insecurities about his mental illness, his drug addiction, >> [snorts] >> and his own chaotic upbringing. She used these and she weaponized them against him. So, they have no choice but to try to mitigate this case and say, "Okay, he committed the murders. We admit that, but they were not premeditated." On [snorts] October 21st, 2021, Ali was driven to the brink. It was the perfect storm. He was so completely overcome by the months of torture and heartache and pain that he reacted without thoughts, without judgment, and without malice. Ali shot Ray and Anna in the heat of passion. So, you can't [music] say that it's heat of passion when you're the one who walked into an apartment you weren't supposed to be in with a loaded gun, and you fire immediately upon entering. As you'll see, for a defendant who has a flair for the attrics, this trial is not without [music] plenty of drama. On October 18th, you were also researching a teen porn [music] videos, correct? >> What? What did you just say? That's what you were researching, correct? Say it again. Teen porn videos. >> You're out of your mind. Show me the teen You just said you want to pay me some kind of child molester. Show me what Show me. What What you just said. I've never seen that in the discovery. I've been incarcerated 3 years. You never showed that to my my team. Where did you get that? It's in your phone. >> [music] >> I mean, you guys have had a history at this point of trying to get under each other's skins. Yes. So, this sort of back and forth, low blow, return a low blow in terms of the things that you would say to try to get under each other's skins. This was something that was happening with some regularity at this point in your relationship. Yes. And one of the things when I'm under the effects of cocaine, I mean, I become really impulsive and I don't think before [music] I speak, and I say very mean things I don't recognize how much of an impact it is. >> [music] >> As the trial of TikTok star Ali Abulaban for the murders of his wife Anna and her friend Rayburn Barron continues, Abulaban [music] takes the stand. He takes the stand for 3 days in his own defense, which [music] is not something uh many defense attorneys would recommend, but they were trying to prove here in this case this heat of passion. [music] So, they possibly believed he needed to take the stand to explain how he was feeling in that moment. What happened next? I snapped. I I uh rolled on top of Anna, and I began punching her. Where did you punch her? I hit her face. About Do you have any idea how many times you punched her? Three times. And then what happened? I got off of Anna. Anna was crying, and I was like, "I'm so sorry." And I'm And I'm apologizing profusely because it's not something I ever want to do. It's not something I mean, that's disgusting to me. And and I was just very impulsive. When Ali was on direct exam, he was calm. Uh he [music] told his story. Uh obviously a lot of that was rehearsed beforehand, but when I was confronting him with certain [music] uh bad facts on cross-examination, he had some outbursts. You heard that word respect, correct? I didn't hear anything. Okay. You, before you shot Anna, you told her essentially that you she wasn't respecting you, correct? That's false. That is not a female voice saying respect, correct? That is not There's nobody saying respect in there. That is not Ray saying respect because he's already dead, correct? I do not know the status of Ray, but there's nobody saying respect in that audio. That's what you said to Anna, and then you killed her. I did not say that He would curse at me. Uh he would ask me questions. Ali was ultimately trying to be very controlling of me while I was conducting my cross-examination, and so [music] his true colors came out during the cross-examination. You shot her because she had disrespected you and was with Ray, correct? No. Right after you shot Anna in the head, you pushed her head down into Ray's lap, right? >> Oh, good I'm not going to tolerate this. The jury just was able to see who he really was as the violent and controlling person that Anna had always described him as. Ali's mother also takes the stand. Do you see him here in court today? I miss him. Ali always said he had a very close relationship with his mom. She really wanted to help her son. It was just always harder on Ali, always. It It was stressful. Um when you say it was stressful, was it stressful for you as well? Yes, I always had to hide stuff from from Ali's dad just because he would get angry. And there were times that um Nasser physically disciplined Ali, right? Yes. Um can you describe what that would be like? Just grabbing him and hitting him on the butt. How old was he when he was grabbing him and hitting him on the butt? I mean, around 10. Going on the stand and talking [music] about the abusive childhood, which I do find credible in terms of some of the things that she shared, and this history of [music] domestic violence that Ali and his siblings witnessed. Um some of the [music] terror that she experienced in this situation. He was very temperamental. He would get angry quick at anything. Um and there were times um Ali Missoura in this um home environment where um Nasser was abusive to you, right? Yes. Physically? Yes. [music] And Ali was one of those children who saw um the abuse. Yes. >> [snorts] >> Ali's mom [music] also stated he had mental health issues, and then obviously you pair all of this with drugs, it's a dangerous cocktail. After about a month, the trial winds down with closing arguments. The defendant felt disrespected by Anna and Ray. So, he executed a plan, and then he executed them. And their families cannot see them anymore because the defendant was so possessive and controlling of Anna that if he could not have her, no one could. And she could live. And any man she was with could not live, either. And this case is all about power and control until the very end. >> [music] >> It's almost like this is a possession of mine. This person is a possession of mine. >> [music] >> It's a matter of ownership. Somebody is trying to take something that belongs to me, and that is intolerable to me. He is guilty of first-degree murder. >> [laughter] >> He murdered Anna and Ray in cold blood, and he is guilty. And I ask that you find him guilty of both counts [music] of first-degree murder. Thank you. The defense had an insurmountable hill to climb in this case in many, many respects. Ali Abulaban is not a murderer. Yes, he killed Anna, the woman that he loved, the mother of his beautiful daughter, Amira. And he killed Ray, a man with whom Anna was having an affair. And he cannot undo what he has done, but he did not murder them. He is not a murderer. The law in homicide recognizes and requires you to consider >> [music] >> heat of passion. That is what's going on in someone's mind at the time that something's happened. Heat of passion [music] can lead to voluntary manslaughter, which would really reduce the exposure and consequences to [music] Ali in this case. I'm asking you to hold Ali responsible. But only responsible for what he did. This was a crime of passion. He reacted to the provocation that he was experiencing. [music] He is not guilty of first-degree murder. He is not guilty of second-degree murder. Find him guilty of two counts of voluntary manslaughter. Thank you. So, the jury [music] was tasked with determining whether or not Ali was guilty of first-degree murder, and if not first, then was it second-degree, and if not [music] second-degree, then was it voluntary manslaughter? They deliberated about a day and a half. [music] That That is fairly long. Uh it it could kind of give a defense attorney [music] some hope in a case anytime a jury is going beyond a day. We, the jury in the above-entitled cause, [music] find the defendant Ali Nasser Abulaban guilty of the crime of murder in the first degree of Rayburn Ali Nasser of Rayburn Cardenas Barron. >> [music] >> We, the jury in the above-entitled cause, find the defendant Ali Nasser Abulaban guilty of the crime of murder in the first degree of Anna Abulaban. Before Ali Abulaban is officially sentenced, family of the victims have a few things to say. My [laughter] mom TREAT YOU HOW? THIS IS NOT OUR SORRY ANNA. >> [laughter] >> WHAT DID THEY They are YOU DID THAT TO THEM. YOU DID THAT. YOU DO THAT TO ME. YEAH, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW ANNA MARIE'S MAN IS NOT GOING TO GO CHEAT IF YOU DIDN'T CHEAT FIRST. ALI, MAN, if you're not going to be able to control yourself, I'm going to have to [laughter] excuse you. Yes, you're Abulaban again, please. You're under my nice friend Ali. And I want to share my share the court the devastating impact the loss of my sister and Amira >> [snorts] >> has had in our lives. My sister was a gentle, [laughter] loving, sweet [snorts] young woman. Her absence has left a hole in in my heart that can never be filled. The sentencing phase of this case was incredibly intense. The family spoke and they were very angry, as they should be. They were extremely heartbroken. There was a lot of emotion in that courtroom. My name is Sherdonna Barron. And Rayburn [snorts] was my brother. He had a beautiful soul. So, I'm here today to ask for justice for my brother Ray, for Anna, and for my mom, who [snorts] has to suffer the rest of her life knowing that her youngest son and her baby was taken from her in such a violent way. Sir, what happened? Yes, sir. If you want to make a statement, this is the time. Uh your honor, I have something written. Okay. May I face Sure. It is truly unfortunate that despite the compelling evidence that this was a crime of passion, somehow the jury still landed on this verdict. And they certainly wasted no time in doing so. The fact that I spent more time on the stand than the jury took to deliberate my fate is very concerning, and that justice was not the motivating factor behind their decision. It was vengeance. [music] Ali read a statement, a very lengthy statement, I believe about 10 minutes [music] long. It was very apparent that his statement wasn't fully sincere, [music] uh that he was just doing saying these things to try to get a better sentence for himself, and that he [music] was a good actor. And so, the judge did make comments about Ali being a very talented [music] actor. I've watched him here during all of this time. When I saw the Scarface videos, [music] it's as if when he committed these crimes, he became that persona of a Scarface, >> [music] >> uh just cold-blooded killing without remorse. Any [music] tears that he's crying in this courtroom have been for himself. I don't know if he's really sorry. I felt like the judge [music] was saying, "I've just seen a performance. I've just seen a three-day performance. >> [music] >> So, I will give it to you that you're a good actor, but I'm not talking about you on Tik Tok or potentially in Hollywood. I'm talking about what we all saw in the courtroom." >> [music] >> Because it seemed to be very, very calculated in so many ways. And so, the judge [music] sentenced him to the maximum sentence that he could get. The bottom line here is he will die in prison. He will never be a free man. He will take his last BREATH THERE. >> [applause] >> IN THIS IN THIS >> [applause] >> PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. In this matter, [music] the defendant on count one will be sentenced to life without the possibility probation. Consecutive to [music] count one will be count two, which will be life without the possibility of parole. I wanted [music] to make sure that this case highlighted domestic violence, [music] and that victims should not be scared to report violence by an abuser to the police. The only thing that's different about this [music] scenario is they're Tik Tok famous. And so, we know so much more about that. [music] Is there anything else really different about this story than in so many others? How many people [music] looked at this couple as I want to be them. They're fun. They put on Tik Toks together. They're family on Tik Tok. And >> [music] >> people had no idea that there was this abuse behind the scenes. There was this control. So, you just never know. You have to be very careful. [music] They had a three-vehicle TC, traffic accident. We had uh four subjects run from the scene, and uh sounds like they got some serious injuries at the uh the scene. And the people who ran uh westbound are should be right in this area somewhere. LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS. RIGHT NOW. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND NOW. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. Frank 22, two at gunpoint. I'm hurting, man. Don't move. I'm not moving. Two at gunpoint. I'm going to need RFD at this location, too. I'm not moving. Get him cuffed. Get him cuffed. Don't resist. Behind me. Behind me. I got you. It's all right. All right. I got you. Where are your feet? My car, dude. I don't I wasn't even driving, dude. >> on, officer? Let me know when you're done talking so I can ask you a question. >> ahead, officer. Okay. What happened down there at the accident? What happened? The what Come on. Don't play games with me. I got people down there who are going to point you. You guys are running from the scene. Okay? We were right here. What's going on? You got glass in your head. Okay. So, I got glass in >> Go ahead. We got two. We're going to need to do an area check over over here to see if those guys might be hiding out up over here. You're on parole, right? Okay. Do you want it to be worse for you now, you being on parole? It's an accident. It's an accident. You got an accident. Tell me what happened instead of lying about What are you talking about? I can smell the alcohol coming off of you, too. Okay. So, you smell the alcohol. What? >> What happened over there? So, I've been drinking today. So, what? What happened in the accident? What accident? You're not going to talk to me? Okay. We're just going to violate you. That's fine. Look, officer. That's fine. Fine with me. That's fine. Look, I haven't done nothing wrong. Okay. Well, >> all the all the witnesses down there are going to tell me different, right? What's your name? Justin. What happened, Justin? I don't know, man. I don't Was he driving? Well, he's drunk. I can tell. Okay. How old are you? 22. 22. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Okay. Then tell me what happened. I don't know what happened, man. I just sitting in the car. My head got smashed against the window. Okay. Who got hurt Who was driving? I don't remember, Ray. I don't remember nothing. Who? The guy over here? Was he driving? Yeah, I don't know what to say. I don't know. I cut my last time I said stuff, I got I got glass in my head, dude. Okay. What do you think happened to the people over there in the accident you got in a car accident? >> all right, hey. I don't know what happened. I'm hurting, too. I hope they're all right. I was in an accident. It's my fault. >> Okay. >> Your fault you were driving? No, I wasn't driving. How is it your fault if you weren't driving? Cuz I was a just I'm just as far from being in that situation. Okay. He's coming westbound on Foothill. The guys that fled this car coming southbound run a red light and he hits So, I mean, he gets to hit this pole there. We got to get Edison out here to check the pole. It's cracked. This car after it hits the truck hits another parked car, that white one there that was parked in the um in the turn lane. So, driver party three said he could possibly ID so I got Luther going to take him over there to check him out and see what he They're going to do it. So, right now, just one One injury. Right now, just one injured. They're shaken up, but they're not hurt. And then, uh whatever the injuries are in the car. You understand what's going on? You were in a car accident, right? >> Yes, sir. No, I mean Come You listen. We got You see what I'm saying? Listen. Don't you listen to me for a second, okay? Okay. We know you're in the you're in a car accident, okay? We got lots of people who identified you already as you in the car accident. Yes. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. You're already on parole. Do you think honesty's going to help you out, or do you think you're going to end up going back for a long time if you keep lying? Am I going to go to jail or not? Yes, you're going to jail. >> Okay. Then take me to jail. Okay. You're going to go to jail. >> jail. Let me tell you what you're going to jail for. >> Okay. Then that's fine. Take me to jail. I don't need to. I'll just find out when You're going for felony drunk driving. >> that's fine. Then I'll be in court. And I'll go to court. Okay. And I'll find it. And you want me to sit back in the car now? Yeah. Go ahead and sit in the back with you. No. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Hey, Daniel. Yes, sir. You can sit in the car. You realize this. Okay. No, it doesn't I'll see it in the court. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I'll see it inside the court and wait. And I'll Thank you. Thank you very much, officer. >> I'll thank you. Life. Think of life. Okay. Felon with lots of convictions. >> Okay. And that's fine. You can shut the door. And we'll go to court. You're going to go to court? Yeah. We'll go to court, right? Yeah. I'll be there. It doesn't matter what you say. What can you do for me in court? Nothing. You guys on the northeast are making your way southwest. Some neighbors saw these male blacks outside with uh guns in their hands and possibly fighting. We got uh three male blacks walking towards us. Three males walking towards us. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. ON the ground. ON THE GROUND. POLICE DEPARTMENT. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. I I JUST came from there. What happened? Some I just Get on the ground. Lay flat. They just uh got into it with some people. My friends, you can uh take me over there right now. My mom, she didn't know She'll tell you right now, sir. All right. Just relax, okay? Gentlemen, hands out to your sides right now. You guys back up, guys. Guys, any weapons? No, sir. No, I don't have no What's in your pant leg? I just came from my You got a shotgun? Yeah, he's got a shotgun. You got a shotgun? I mean, came from 33. We got one with a shotgun. You have anything else on you? No, sir. I just I just All right. Watch the barrel and clear it. It's a rifle. Okay. Got it. Yeah, it's got Yeah, there's a feeling here. Hang on. Let's uh >> I was just about to come turn this in. All right. Clear the weapon. You got to breathe. Yeah. You have anything on else on you that we should know about? >> No, sir. You need to start being honest. You got another gun on you, yes or no? >> No, sir. I swear you can verify it from the lady. No, we run a 10-8. We got a 33. All right. This one's clear. Leave this one for now. Finish the pat down. I got going on him. Stand up. I'm just going to leave that gun there for now. He's Sure. You got to breathe? Yeah. Take a seat. I got we got Legs straight out in front of you. Cross your legs. Cross your legs out in front of you. Cross your ankles. What happened? What started this whole thing? >> The whole thing started when somebody took took my own my stepdaughter's soda. Okay. >> You know what I mean? She said I guess they went upstairs. They had words over the soda. It's some kind of way they end up they about to start fighting over a soda. You know what I mean? So So I go up there like I know you ain't finna hit her. So I come down. You know he made four calls. You know what I mean? Got my got the whole apartment surrounded. By those guys? >> Yeah. And all I did was say, "Man, I know you ain't you ain't finna hit my stepdaughter." Basically, that's all it was. Okay. >> You not going to hit my stepdaughter. You are a boy. She is a girl. You not going to hit her, man. Yeah, what about the guns? This that was all out here. You know what I'm saying? I never came outside. You never came outside? >> I was on top. You know what I'm saying? The kids and everything seen the guns. Okay. You know my my lady said they was cocking guns and everything out here. Well, when I came out here When my husband Come out to my car. Baby said they was finna shoot my truck. And she stood in front of my truck said, "You not finna shoot my husband's car." He they came to the And they said, "You know what? I ain't even tripping. I'll get him." All right. And Justin started patting him down and he pulled this out of his waistband. Um it had two rounds in it. So he was lucky he didn't get shot tonight. I had uh dispatch contact the parent who's meeting us in the lobby at the police station. I notified the parent that his uh their child has been taken into custody for uh possessing a sawed-off rifle and it's uh concealed in his pants. Just don't want a gun, man. We'll get you down talk to him about it. Be a man about it. Just don't want a gun, man. You might have to have it. >> want a gun, man. You know what's happening, man. Just don't want a gun, man. You know you kill somebody, man, you going to prison for life. Charged as an adult, man. They said this is the gun that we got off him. It's a cut down modified um .22. And we already talked to him and uh we're all dead. >> Tell him tell him, man. I didn't grow up with no dad. I'm telling y'all I grew up with just my mom. But dad didn't give me no reason to be out here man. He don't give me no reason to be out here. He got a good mom and a good dad. I'm sorry. I told you If I do get out, I know I do better. Man, I'm I'm I wish it didn't have to be like this, man. I told you, though. I told you, son. I told you, man. I told you, man. I love you, man. That's why I'm here, man. That's why I'm [snorts] here. I told you, all right, son. Don't be in there. Just go in there. Listen to them cops. Do what you got to do, man. You hear me? I told you, son. I love you, okay? I'll be up there to see you, man. >> [snorts] >> Trying to catch a vehicle. Speed around about 80. OTC TC 108 Vinoda This car came around the corner pretty fast. We're trying to catch up to it. Uh he's at a high rate of speed. I think he may have saw us. He's trying to get away. Looks like they're going about 70 right now. Robert 47 Trying to catch a vehicle northbound Village. Speed around about 80. Traffic conditions are light. OTC TC 108 Vinoda Let me see your hands. LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS. DRIVER, LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS. 108 108 have them expedite. Ma'am, are you okay? All right, let's not move. Don't move. Don't move. Robert 48 have an elderly male who's unresponsive. Elderly female who's on the floorboard of the vehicle. Ma'am, don't move. Stay right where you are, okay? Just sit tight. We have an ambulance coming. All right, stay right there. Don't move. Sir, what's your name? Okay, just sit tight. You haven't been drinking tonight, right? And you don't have medical problems? Okay. It's true this guy's got an open can in the floorboard. What? Hey Elizabeth, it's just in the vehicle, right? Nobody flew out? I don't drink. Okay. Sit tight. We got an ambulance on their way. Driver's intoxicated. Hit the curb back here doing about 80. Um Was unconscious and responsive for a good minute. Um I'm sure he's extremely intoxicated. Passenger's complaining of neck pain and back pain. And uh The driver has priors for uh DUI and his driver's license is expired. I think the driver and the passenger both are going to be airlifted probably down the hill to to Arrowhead County. They're both elderly and uh they want to transport them or by air just for precautionary purposes. They had a positive reading for alcohol on uh preliminary alcohol screening test. What happened? He felt like speeding? And then I saw the cop behind us and he went berserk when we went to the side of the road. We went to the side of the >> Okay. We'll take this off, okay? Elizabeth, do you have any pain, sweetie? My neck. Your neck's hurting you. Anything else? I hear running like water. I know. We got it. Hey Elizabeth, what's the name of the driver? Glenn Glenn? Is that your husband? Okay, so you saw me behind you and you told him that the cops were behind him? Yeah, and tried to pull over. He pulled over too fast. Well, no. You you just said that he you said the cops were behind him and he went berserk. And he started going too fast. >> he pulled over. Take a deep breath, Elizabeth. Elizabeth, take a deep take a deep breath. He went over the curb and then landed here on the asphalt. You can see his skid marks all the way. He hit this curb here. Wow. >> And jumped up and then, you know, you can see where he skid right through the dirt all the way down the wheels hit. Yeah. What were you stopping him for? Um speeding. He was doing about uh 70. I was pacing him. He was doing about 70 in a 55. And then uh when I lit him up um he was he was all over. He was between one, two and then finally he hit the curb here. So we got open containers alcohol in there? >> Got open containers in the car. Uh a couple of actually a couple other cans that that weren't open. And obviously he's got alcohol on his breath. >> alcohol on his breath. He's got priors for DUI. His driver's license is suspended right now. Lucky tonight nobody else was hurt. My fear is is that there could be a guy standing on the other side of that wall with a gun pointed at your head. Put your hands down. We were responding to a call from Roseville PD. They were in pursuit of a red Harley Davidson motorcycle. Um he's a domestic violence suspect and they believe he's a parolee at large and possibly armed. Officers have found the motorcycle abandoned and he's supposed to be on foot evading us. So he is somewhere from here Well, that way or down the way. Okay. >> So as soon as he wrecked his bike right over there, he's going to be like over in this uh section. >> Uh we're trying to get another officer to call perimeter to surround the area and keep him locked down. So we need a warrant coming? He said I there was nobody in this house. Okay. Well, just let you know if we do find him or relate this back to this house, both y'all can go to jail. Just being honest with you. Oh, I know. I know. I don't have anything to do with Do you want to take that chance? Bad night. >> That's real fun right there. I'm sorry? Going to jail. We're looking for a guy with a gun. And he's an extremely dangerous parolee. All we're asking for is your cooperation. Maybe just a little, you know, helping hand. Oh, yeah. If there was anybody here, I would let you in let you have him. I mean, I'd be out first. But see, my fear is is that there could be a guy standing on the other side of that wall with a gun pointed at your head telling you to say these things. >> If there was, I could go like Hello from out of control K9. If you're out there, make yourself known or I'll send the police dog. We'll find you and you will be bit. Final warning. CSP K9, come out now. Here, come on over here and talk to me real quick, Dorothy. Thank you for finally coming forward and >> Does he have it? Does he have a firearm? It's okay. Just sit tight. You're all right. You're all right. Forward. Down. Sheriff's K9, if you're in here, make yourself known or dogs coming in you are going TO GET BIT. CLEAR THE HOUSE BACK THIS WAY. COMING THROUGH. WHAT IN HERE? EVERYONE BACK. EVERYONE BACK UP. Only one. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. They only want one. Back up. Keep those hands. KEEP THOSE HANDS. CRAWL TO ME. CRAWL THIS WAY. Got cuffs? Put your hands down. Put your hands down right now. You got it? >> Yes, sir. Let it go. UNDER THE BED. OVER. ALL RIGHT. THANK you for finally coming forward. When I started to get this sense that you didn't want to let me in your house for some reason, that's why I started talking about there could be a guy with a gun inside. I had a really good suspicion that he was in there. Good. How were you feeling at that time when I mean when he was in there? >> Petrified. Okay. I mean, did he threaten you guys in any way or Uh he said, "You better be quiet." And I don't know. Okay. So, that's when you guys just became afraid. Yeah. He looks like a gang member and I don't know if he had a weapon. I didn't see one, but I didn't know. All right. Thanks again, Dorothy. We appreciate it. What What's What's your first name again? Why wouldn't you give yourself up when you heard the dog outside the door? You have no comment. You heard the dog coming in the door, right? You heard the dog. You heard us make our announcements. They even said you're going to get bit if you don't give up. You had nowhere to go. So, why would you just hide out in there? What's that? All right, Andrew. He's an active parolee right now. He's probably going to be violated for his parole status. He's got an active domestic violence um charge against him at this point. Um they initiated pursuit on the freeway, so they've got him for evading a peace officer on the freeway. Charging into the residence, that's a good burglary right there because he was unwanted and uh held them against their will for a good false imprisonment charge. And then they're going to book him in the Orange County Jail, so Okay. That'll work. Knock it off. He's on parole. He's doing this with the kids. Are you angry with him? What? We're en route to uh back our SCAT team. Uh one of their informants has given them some information reference uh some dope that one of the local uh gang members has. Hey guys, what do you got? We got a subject. He's on uh parole. So, we got information that he's uh selling methamphetamine in his house. I've already contacted uh Agent King. You know, he's good to go for the search, so Okay. We're going to see if we can contact him and uh see if we can locate the locate the meth on him. Where we need him. Let's go over there. You know, I'll stay lethal cover cuz they got tasers. Get one in the backyard. Keep your hands out of your pockets. Right now. Sorry. All right. All right. Get that hand back. Knock it off. Take a deep breath. Okay. I'm going to have you roll over on your stomach. Look at me. >> at me. Look, I'm going Take a deep breath. Roll over on your stomach on three. One, two, three. Get that hand back. Get that hand back. Get that hand back. Get your breath and roll over on your butt. Sit the Sit down. Sir. Sit down. What did you dump on me? I didn't do anything, sir. Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to give you the chance, okay, to tell me where the dope is so I can just go get it. Now, you can go to jail, okay, and your family gets to stay here and do their thing. >> There's nothing in there, sir. Sure? Okay. What was the reason you guys coming over here, though? You're on parole. I don't need a reason. >> Yeah, but why, though? You're on parole. What did I just tell you? What did I just tell you? Stop. Stop. Put it back down. Oh, there we go. Looky there. Oh, by the way, you're under arrest. We got it. Here it is. On top of the pool. What's that, Phillip? That's what he was reaching for. He's trying to get rid of it. You got any more dope on you? Spread your feet. Spread your feet nice and wide. Wider. Spread your feet. Phillip, how long have I known you? Huh? How long have I known you? Years? I've been watching you. You think this is just a a brand new thing where I just came to your house today and and decided to go through your stuff? I don't think so. Get in the car. All right. It just amazes me that it just amazes me how how your boys are in jail for the same stuff. This is what we found on your husband. He's on parole. He's doing this with the kids. What's going on? These kids have no future like this. It's All we're asking you is break the routine, okay? He's on parole. And he dumped a He wrapped up a looks like a stolen gun here. Ooh. It's a big one. So, we're going to fingerprint it. He can't be on parole and possess any type of uh weapons like that, so With his priors, he'll probably get life. I think this is his third strike. I'm going to hit him up and ask him about this gun. You got it? Yeah. We got your gun. Whose is it? I don't know. You tell me. It's your house. You were in the backyard. Keeps on getting worse, man. This is your third strike. So, basically, you were drinking, you were driving, but you don't want to get in trouble, so you're making up an imaginary friend named Scooby. I am trying to catch up with this vehicle. He looks suspicious. He's going in the alleyway of a convenience store that we've been having some robberies. So, I'm going to light him up and see what he's doing. Okay, he's not pulling over. Anybody in the area of D and 6th Street. I got a vehicle trying to get away from me. I'm lighting him up. He's not pulling over. If you can assist me. 4 Charles Adam Lincoln 10-18 confirmed. Subject is 10 hanging out. I copy you. The vehicle showing Frank 0 Acura heading westbound. That's it. 38 show me 97. It looks like the vehicle. Hey, come here, partner. Come here. You got ID on you? Uh yes, sir. Sit down for me real quick. You don't need to be standing up after getting out of that. Is this your brother? Uh no. Friend? No, I didn't. 17 Robert 30, copy on one. It's going to be first of Joshua 0304. >> [snorts] >> What happened? Um I was coming down the street and I was walking and I seen them crash and they kind of I was trying to help him out and his friend took off running His friend took off running? Why do you have dirt in your hair? Because I'm I'm trying to lift him out because he said that the car lifted out on his Why is your hand bleeding? Because I'm trying to lift him out and there's glass everywhere. And I go and touch my face because I'm trying to lift him out. >> Okay. Are you hurt? I got a cut on my face. Are you hurt? I'm kind of hurt like >> you weren't inside the car? No, I'm positive. Where did his friend go? [snorts] I don't know. He took off running. Down the street? Yeah. His face has got all scratches. He said he just walked up here and started helping him, but you can see by his markings that he was in the car and he got flipped out. The way that he was coming in and out of these streets, it had to be this car. You guys were running from me cuz you've been drinking? Nah. Why were you running from me? I wasn't. You weren't. He was. Why? Because he has a warrant. He has a warrant? That's what he said. Anything hurt? No, man. Did you have your seat belt on? Yes, ma'am, I did. And he didn't? No, he didn't. Okay. And when he saw me light him up, that's why he started hauling butt through the streets? That makes sense. I ain't trying to lie to you guys because I ain't trying to get in more trouble or nothing, but Were you driving? Huh? Were you driving? Um yeah, I was, but I wasn't drinking. Okay. You said you had Yes, it is, sir. So, that's your friend? Yeah. Because he made a stupid decision. Look at him. Mhm. You'll be all right? I'll be all right. He said he was he has a right to drive and he just wanted to take his friend home and But you said you were driving. I didn't say I was driving. Oh, I thought you did. Were you driving or was your buddy driving? I wasn't driving. You wasn't? He was? Yeah? >> [laughter] >> Okay. He said he was driving. Stand up. Put your hands behind your back. Why did you lie to me? Didn't you just say your boy was driving? Hello. Yeah. He's the one pinned under the car. You're driving and you're still lying? Who's driving? Who drove? Huh? He just said you were driving. >> my boy is driving. No, he wasn't driving. Do you know how drunk he is? You need to tell me exactly how this happened. Who was driving for real, sir? Okay. It was my other friend, but honestly Your other friend who? Huh? They call him >> going to go talk to him. If he tells me you're lying They call him Scooby. I don't know his real name. Honestly, I don't. >> at? Um he lives off I'll tell you right now. It's um Why weren't you driving if it's your car? Because I've been drinking. Okay. So so basically what this is is you were drinking, you're driving, but you don't want to get in trouble, so you're making up an imaginary friend named Scooby so you don't get in trouble, right? It's not even like that. Keep going. Keep go go go go. Good. Is your friend back? You're under arrest for driving under the influence of alcohol. .125 over the legal limit, which could be the main reason why he ran. Josh So why did you not pull over? Why you guys telling me I was driving for? You know you're being arrested for a felony DUI, right? Yeah, but there's two other people driving with me and you guys You guys don't even look for them. Stick to that one cuz that's like the third story you come up with. You don't got to keep lying, man. I got dispatched to the location while we were en route to a fight where there were three males fighting in front of this house. What's going on? Turn around for me. Let me see your Sit down. Turn around. What's up? Separate your feet. Put your hands down. Put your hands down. Separate your feet. Separate your feet. Separate your feet. What's going ON? RELAX. FIGHT. FIGHT. FRANK, GO DO IT. MAKE him drop the foot. I GOT THE FOOT. I GOT THE FOOT. WATCH OUT. WATCH OUT. IT'S A FIRM ONE TASED. VICTOR, take that machine off him now, man. You can't You got Relax. You relax. I am relaxed. He almost RAN OVER MY PARTNER. Get up. Get up. Watch out for this All right, these two were fighting. Come here. You talk to me. Tell me what happened. I was inside my house over here. >> Okay. Why were you involved? That's my brother. That's your brother? Yes, it is. Sir, put your hands behind your back. Relax. We're going to figure out what happened. Tell me what happened. This guy pulls up behind my behind my son in the in the truck. >> Okay. >> And he just start going off and beating on the car >> Okay. and everything talking about you're in front of my house, you're in front of my house. And my son said, "Well, I'm trying to let my mom out." >> Okay. >> You know, he was like all up against my brother like he he grabbed him, right? I grabbed my son away because they all came from across the >> brother the one in the pants? >> No, he had left. Your brother already left? I got I told him to leave, man. >> Because he wouldn't stop. Because I didn't want no like a fight out here. So that's why You don't know why he was upset? Uh when we when my mom and my brother said it's because he they just pulled up in front of his house, which is right here. He was going to get ready to back his car up in front of my car, which is right here. >> so he couldn't back out. >> he pulled his truck like right behind him. >> man. I didn't know your mom was in the car. And and my son said, "Get off of my car. Get off of my car, man." So then all them came and I just got to screaming and yelling. So I got my cell phone and called called officers because I I I couldn't see the two of them trying to wrestle >> holding I was holding one arm on him to keep him back. I don't know if he owns something. So Think he might be. Yeah, he something something and he was persistent on trying to fight. He was never had no problems with him. So did he hit anybody today? Yes, he he did hit my brother. But he's gone. I socked him in the nose and I told my son to leave because I'm not trying to get my my We didn't come I'm here for to go to the doctors. >> Okay. Okay. And I'm not trying to get my babies into no bunch of brawl and beef with with their neighbors. Okay. But this guy this guy he wouldn't even let us back up to this house. >> Okay. Who is he fighting with? He was fighting with a guy that was already gone. He's upset because these guys showed up and they were already parked a little bit too close into his front yard. I guess he lives a little bit closer and he went over there to raise heck with everybody because you're pulled up too close to my house. What's your name? You guys going to listen to me or what? I'm listening right now. What's going on, man? You know, we came back I probably had a couple more beers to drink than I should have. Okay. We came back out trying to park in front of my house, which is right here. If you look directly left, that's my house. >> Okay. And the dude's like backing up trying to back up into me and I stop and he stops. He jumps out so I jump out. He's like, "Hey, what the you doing?" So I'm trying to park in front of my house. Okay. You know? Dude just swung and knocked my teeth out and you guys pull up right after that. And here we are right now. Okay. Well, what about when I pulled up, man? I said you know what dude, I thought you were pretty hot. I didn't mean to I was trying to park in front of my house, man. No, I didn't. Oh, yeah. Come on, dude. Dude, don't try to do an assault on me. I did not try to do that. Okay. I was trying to park in front of the car, huh? You know, if you would have just got out of the car, it would have been cool in the gang. You'd be home right now. Yeah, I know, dude, but I didn't try to hit you. You know I didn't. This ain't my first rodeo. You know that. >> Okay. Well, right now you're under arrest for felony DUI and obstructing a peace officer. Okay, right now we're uh rolling on scene to a house. The guy's shooting [clears throat] out in his front yard. When units just pulled up, he ran inside. Set up in the back. Sheriff's Department Watch the window. Sheriff's Department, open the door. Okay, he's going down >> Okay, he's going down the wall. Sheriff's Department, watch watch watch these posts. Watch these posts. He's he's on the other side of the uh He's on the other side of the refrigerator on the wall. >> door now, Sheriff's Department. Okay, you got someone coming. Let me see your hands. Let me see your hands. Yes, you. Open the DOOR ALL THE WAY AND STEP OUT. STEP OUT. WHAT IS WRONG? LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS. STEP OUT NOW. TASE TASE TASE. SHOW YOUR HANDS. SHOW YOUR HANDS. PUT YOUR HANDS UP. DUDE, WE'RE GOING TO TASE YOU. GO TO THE GROUND. WHAT WHAT HAPPENED? DON'T MOVE. TURN OVER. TURN OVER. IT'S FREE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? M14 priority traffic. Stop moving. Uh we got one tased. Uh we're detaining him right now. Detaining me for what? Let me get his hand back. What did I do? Okay, hold on. Stand up. For what? Stand up. Stand up. >> Stand up for what? >> Sir, stand up. Thank you. Walk outside for me. For what? >> Do you have any weapons on you at all? Huh? >> Do you have any weapons on you at all? No, I don't have any weapons. Yeah. Nothing. I don't know nothing. We'll tell you what happened in a second. The cat's in the back room. He's fine. Please sit down. Yes, I saw him run back there. What's going on here, sir? What were you shooting? Nothing. What were you outside doing before we showed up and you ran inside? Nothing. So you just ran inside for no reason when the deputies showed up. No, there was no gun shooting outside until you guys showed up. There's a pellet gun, okay. Were you shooting a pellet gun out front? No. You weren't. So No. There's a pellet gun outside. Somebody called us and said you're out here shooting a gun and you're telling me you didn't shoot any gun. There's nothing going on. Can you help me get him in the car? Yeah. Hey Bonnie, that's a pellet gun. Okay. Found it inside the uh where he ran and hid it. There's no man with a gun. No, just a pellet gun, sir. Scaring the heck out of your neighborhood. Deputies went inside and uh they found this gun. Guess uh it's a pellet gun, but from a distance, you know, it could be a rifle. So that's why the neighbors called us. Sounds like he was trying to shoot the light out for some reason. I saw him run behind the wall over there like he's hiding something. How many commands do you think we gave him? Tell him to put his hands up. Nothing, huh? And when she walked by the window and saw us and it was like, you know, nobody was concerned that there was police at their door. If I know for my house, I'd be concerned. Absolutely. And for you know, for our safety, fortunately we had to he had to be tased, so Absolutely. Okay. Ma'am, do you have any idea what's going on? All I know he's just being stupid cuz he's Who who is he to you? He's my I don't know. We've been together for 20 some years. You tell me. I don't know. We're not married. We live together. We own the home together. What happened is he was shooting a gun out here and the neighbors called. Think he has a real gun. So we pulled up and he ran inside as soon as the deputies told him to stop. >> Yeah. So that's why we had to open the door the way we did. So I'm very very sorry to scare you. I appreciate your cooperation. I'm sorry that we >> No problem. I was just watching my movie. Okay. All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much for your cooperation. David, do you have any idea why you're sitting in the back of this patrol car? >> I have no clue. No clue. Okay. Okay, we got a call of you standing in front of this place with a gun. A gun? Yeah. Okay, you told me you were outside earlier shooting a gun, but you weren't outside tonight shooting it? No, we had a um we had a pellet gun. Okay. Okay, you had a pellet gun. Yeah, that was fun. Okay, I mean, do you do you >> No, my friend was firing into the ground. It was Okay, but do you think that's a smart thing to do when there's neighbors and everything around and kids playing? Probably not. [snorts] >> Probably not. Okay. Do you see that this is a very dangerous situation for me and my partners? We have no idea if that thing shoot bullets or BBs. I can understand that. All right. Well, you're going to jail tonight for obstructing a peace officer and discharging the pellet gun, okay? I obstructed a peace officer? Yeah, we gave you commands and you did ignore them. No, I didn't obstruct no peace officer. Okay. Okay. No, I didn't. If you would have asked me, I would have opened the door and I would have abs- I wouldn't I obstructed nothing. Okay. Do you know what obstructing means? No. Okay. Then how do you know you didn't do it? All right, bud. Have a good night, okay? Don't move! Get on your face! You're in a stolen vehicle. The vehicle is a silver 1996 Honda Accord. I want to weigh officers following a rolling stolen vehicle right now. We're trying to catch up to them. All right, we're chasing this Honda right now. GET ON THE GROUND! DON'T MOVE! GET ON YOUR FACE! PUT YOUR HANDS BACK! PUT YOUR HANDS BACK! PUT YOUR HANDS BACK! DO YOU HAVE ANY WEAPONS OR ANYTHING ON YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANY ID on you? All right, relax. Relax. You're in a stolen vehicle. [screaming] Just look. What's your name? What's your name? All right, Matthew, just relax. Look, Matthew, just Lay down on your stomach [screaming] AND JUST RELAX. HEY, RELAX, ALL RIGHT? It's over. It's over. Stand up. Matthew. Matthew. Relax. It's all over, okay? It's no big deal. Do you have any weapons on you? All right, Matthew. What is that? Oh, it's like a shank. That's what the fool gave me, too. So you got this shank. Are you on parole? Probation, sir. For the same thing? Okay, Matthew. Hold on, I'm going to lock your cuffs up. Cuz I already know, like, it's stolen, sir. And then I have priors, man. So I'm I'm messed up. All right, Matthew. Let's go ahead and have a seat. We'll take care of it. Just relax, all right? So she knew the car was stolen, but she didn't have anything to do with it? >> didn't know like it was stolen. Like she knew the person that let me use it. But I can't Okay. But you can't tell me who gave it to you. Yeah, you know you know how it is, man. All right, brother. He said he knew it was stolen. He can't tell me who gave him the car and he's on probation for 10851 already. He says his name is Matthew. I'm not getting his ID anywhere. He's got a couple more wallets. Mel. I don't know who that is. Hey, what's the name of the girl you got? I got a bunch of different IDs here. But none of them belong to the suspect. So you live in Cathedral City? The suspect had this in his right front pocket. I asked him what it was. He said it was a shank. It actually fits right into an ignition or maybe a lock on a door. That's a homemade burglary tool for getting into locks. So I'd also charge him with 466 of the penal code, possession of a burglary tool. The ignition in this car is completely punched out right there. And there's the screwdriver. So he probably started with the burglary tool, maybe switched to the screwdriver, completely pried out the ignition. And was able to stick the screwdriver in there and turn the ignition. That's how they get the car started. He's going to jail for possession of a stolen vehicle. I love it when they don't get away. All right, looks like they just did a burglary. Station, he's rolled it. DON'T MOVE! DON'T MOVE! I'M GOING TO CHECK THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA OUT, THIS business area where we seem to have a lot of problems, and see if there's anybody wandering around. This guy's taking off from us. Trying to be trying to catch up to the vehicle northbound Indian School red light. Looks like he's probably trying to run from us. 29 blowing the stop sign and eastbound eastbound up no, continuing north. Continuing north. He almost T-boned Dylan and uh Indian continuing northbound. All right, looks like they just did a burglary at a one of the businesses. And so they're burglary suspects and we must have just interrupted them. And we're still continuing Well, he's slowing down. Looks like he's Yeah, he's going to be going eastbound on Pearson. See if they can set up some spike strips there. Approaching uh Little Morongo 85 mph. He just blacked out and now continuing eastbound. And he's losing it. Looks like he's going to lose control. No, continuing to east. Still maintaining. Yeah, his lights are back on and he's going to Yeah, he rolled it. Station, he's rolled it. Want to go plain. DON'T MOVE! DON'T MOVE! DON'T MOVE! HEY, as far as I know, there's only one guy, okay? Yeah. We got another unit coming. Yeah. He just rolled it and flipped it here. 29 got DHS units with me now. Felony stuff. I'm going to just cover this car up here. Is he the only one with him? Hey, go for it. All right, car's clear. Affirmative. Yeah, if we could, cuz he just rolled it, man. He flipped the heck out of that car, man. All over the place. Go ahead. What's up, man? Just happened to roll up on your burgling that stuff, huh? As soon as I saw your lights, I knew it was stolen. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You knew this was stolen? When you turn on the lights, yeah. We got medical coming. Are you hurt anywhere? No, it's just my leg hurts. Okay, well, we'll check on you here in just a minute, all right? He hit this dirt over here right through the dips. And he just That's when I saw him losing control. I thought he I'm surprised he made it this far. Let me talk to him for a minute. Okay, thanks. You just took me out of speeds of 100 mph, man. You just about flipped it. You didn't really care, did you? You on You under the influence of meth? Hey, um sir, for for real, um Yeah, what's up? I I got some weed and some pills and >> [laughter] >> Yeah. And um I don't know. I just got back >> really think you were going to get away? Huh? You really think you were going to get away? I was trying to get home so so my sister could come up. Just so I could tell her what happened, right? You're a gang member from LA? Um yeah. We got medical coming right now, okay? You're lucky you're alive after that, man. Oh, man, I I know. Um Man, but seriously, officer, um I didn't know it was going to get to that point, but um What were you doing in that back alley with? There's a car back there that got burgled. I didn't burgle no alley. Okay, what were you doing in that alleyway? Um picking up that car. Oh, really? Yeah. Uh so we just happened to happened to be there? Yeah. You hopped in right at the time when we were back there? It It Hey, as soon as I hopped in, bam, you turned on the lights and that's when I said Oh, man. So I said, man, I Didn't even see me sitting there. We just happened to be lucky. Yeah. Man, I was just stupid. I know I can't say sorry because hey, you know I did it and I I know what's right and wrong, sir. I I was just GET ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW! GET ON THE GROUND! GET ON THE GROUND NOW! Get on the ground! Six, come on! Hey, get on the ground! GET ON THE GROUND! SHOW ME YOUR HANDS! >> [screaming] >> HEY! HANDS! Come on! Go! Go! A California woman is now behind bars after allegedly pointing [music] a pellet gun at multiple people, including police officers. All this ahead of an officer-involved shooting. SHOW SHOW HANDS! >> [screaming] >> HEY! HANDS! COME ON. GO. GO. GO. THE SACRAMENTO POLICE DEPARTMENT released a series of body and dash camera videos and 911 recordings following the shooting. At about 12:15 p.m. on May 20th, dispatch received a 911 call for someone with a gun in Midtown, Sacramento. The suspect was later identified as 43-year-old Lynn Saturn. 911, what is the address of the emergency? Hello? Hello, Sacramento Police. What's the address? Uh 1111 24th Street. There's a guy walking around. I can't tell if it's a play gun or a real gun, but it looks like a gun. And he's like, "I got a gun. I got a gun." Okay. Is he waving it at anybody or is it >> Uh he pointed it he pointed it at the guys at the beer garden. Um he's pointing it at people as he's walking by. He's walking um south on 24th towards L Street. And he's in a yellow cap, and he's probably fighting tall. Uh he has a gun. Okay. Ma'am, what did you say the address was? What race is she? Uh he may be Asian. I can't tell. He's a little bit dark. Okay. Uh he looks like he might be in his 20s. Okay. Uh about 5 ft. Thin, medium, or heavy? Uh it looks like he's small build. Okay, what color clothing does he have on? He had a tan overcoat on, jeans, a yellow like bicycling cap, and I think he has a long shirt on. Okay. He's walk- He's walking on the east side of 24th, and he's walking at J Street. Okay. What's that? He's walking Yeah, he's walking towards 24th now. About 20 minutes later, another 911 call came in. The caller reported a similar situation nearby. 911. Hey, uh there's a woman waving a gun around. She's shouting gibberish. She uh this is on 20th and N. She's walking past the place called Relentless Tattoo. She's not hurting anybody clearly, but I don't think this is good. And you're sure it's a real gun? Sure as I can tell, but she was waving it around erratically. >> get the You're at the intersection, right? Yes, she's now walking past that. She should be on 20th and O now. 28th >> she went into a store [clears throat] on 20th and O. That doesn't look good. Oh, okay. On 20th and O. Uh If I remember correctly, yes, 20th and O. So south on 28th towards O. Which store did she go into? Yeah, no, she's uh Someone else is freaking out. Okay, which store did she go into? Uh it's unmarked from the outside. It is right behind Seasoned Baseball and Relentless Tattoo. Behind Seasoned Baseball and Relentless Tattoo? Yes. Woman is wearing a yellow cap. She is a large Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to get there. Okay, what race is she? Uh couldn't tell, but I'm guessing vaguely Hispanic. How old is she or Uh couldn't tell from here. How tall? >> [snorts] >> Short, I'd say somewhere around like 5'4" maybe shorter than that. Is she thin, medium, or heavy build? Thin. Uh she looks homeless. Okay, and what was she wearing? She was wearing a yellow cap and a beige overcoat kind of looks like a trench coat. What about the pants? What was that last one? What color pants or shorts did she Couldn't see the pants. What What What kind of gun did it look like? What was it? Like a pistol? Uh yeah, a handgun. What color? Black? No. Oh. Kind of silver chrome. Looked like a 1911 or whatever model. A third caller reported the same thing. Yes, I'm over here on the corner of 28th and N at N. And uh there's a homeless person or what I believe to be a homeless person uh waving a pistol. Uh they just walked by, pointed it at the uh Faces bar, then went around the corner. What color was it? Uh it was a silver uh And where did they go? >> they went the uh Uh they went around the corner. They went down 28th. Uh north or south on 28th? They went What direction is that? >> Towards like O or Um they went down towards What's that? O down that way? Oh, yeah, towards O. >> Okay. Over the next 4 minutes, Sacramento dispatch received four more 911 calls reporting the same suspect. One caller said the woman stole money from a coffee shop. Hello? Hi, this is Sacramento Police. Someone dialed 911. Yeah, that was me. Okay, what what's going on? Um a homeless lady came in with a gun and and stole like tips, and she was waving it around. She didn't shoot it or anything, but um Right. Well, what what address are you at? 28th and O Street. O as in Right. Is there like a business that you're in? Yeah, Mast Coffee. So you don't work there? I do work here. Okay, so she came in, waved it around, and stole items. Yeah, she stole the cash in our tip jar. After this, officers approached the area where the suspect was last seen. Dash camera video shows officers speaking with witnesses who explained what direction Saturn headed off in. There's over here to the other call. I've seen on the female subject with a weapon on 28th and O. Where at? >> 5'4", thin build, yellow bicycle cap, beige trench coat. Appears to be a silver handgun. Seconds later, officers get eyes on Saturn who quickly runs off. Hey, GET ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. MULTIPLE officers follow in their squad cars. Eventually, one hops out of his vehicle and chases Saturn. Robert 35, could you switch us to the new call station one? I don't Come back to this one. Body camera footage gives us a better look of the officer who ran after Saturn. GET ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND NOW. GET ON THE GROUND. SIX, come on. HEY, GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. THE OFFICER calls for Saturn to drop the weapon. Instead, she points it at officers and takes a step toward them. It's then that two officers open fire. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. HEY! HANDS. >> [screaming] >> COME ON. GO. GO. GO. GET ON THE GROUND. HEY, GET ON THE DROP IT NOW. DROP Body camera video from a second officer shows the moments before the shooting from another angle. Hey, GET ON THE GROUND. YOU'RE GOING TO GET BIT. GET OUT SEVERAL WITNESSES WERE IN A NEARBY vehicle at the time of the shooting. Body camera video shows officers giving them instructions. Okay, get out of the car. Stay there. Get out of the car. Come around my car, you guys. Get out of the car. Hey! Hey! Hey! Go check Hey! GO SECURE MY CAR. GO. GO. MA'AM. MA'AM. MA'AM. COME THIS WAY. MA'AM in the blue shirt, come out of the driver's door. Come around my car. Come around my car. Come around my car. Officers then instruct the suspect to move the weapon saying medical aid will not be provided before that. Do not reach for that gun. IF YOU REACH FOR THAT GUN, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SHOT AGAIN. I NEED TO STAY RIGHT here so I can see if if he reaches for she reaches for that gun. We're going to come Hey, guys, hold on. Stay there. Stay there. Stay there. MA'AM, GET GET OVER THERE. >> GET BACK OVER HERE. WE'RE GOING TO make our approach from this side, all right? No, we can't We cannot approach. The gun is literally right next to them. We cannot approach. Hey, if you are able to slide THE GUN AWAY, SLIDE IT AWAY. WE ARE NOT GOING TO COME AND PROVIDE MEDICAL AID UNTIL YOU'RE AWAY FROM THAT FIREARM. EITHER SCOOT YOURSELF AWAY SLIDE THE GUN AWAY. SLIDE IT AWAY. >> All right. Get a shield on the contact team up there. I'm going to come around. Ready? Hold her. Hold her. Come to me. Come to me. Come to me. Is anyone needing medical aid, guys? All right. We're We'll worry about medical aid once they're in custody. Hold on. Hold on. Who's going to be What's up? I'm going to tell I'm going to get the gun away. All right, who's taking hands? I got hands. >> All right, go ahead and get your gloves on. Hold on. Gloves on. Gloves ready. SUSPECT, LISTEN TO ME. If you move at all or you make ANY MOVE FOR THAT GUN, WE ARE GOING TO SHOOT YOU AGAIN. Body camera video shows the same moments from another angle. Who has a shield? I do. Grab that. All right. Ready? Move back. Hold on. Hold on. All right, who's taking him? Grab that. Suspect, listen to me. Get on six. We got the gun away. And we are going to have contact right now with a couple of units. Ready? Ready. Nice and slow. Put your hands behind your back. Got the gun. Leave it right there. Leave it right there. Leave it right there. All right, K96, we have her detained. The firearm is secured. We need to start getting tape up around this intersection. We're going to be bringing medical aid. Second, roll car roll fire department. Okay, medical kit. Medical kit. Okay, we got a kit. I need a medical kit. K96, we're Q and 28. We're going to need to start throwing tape up around this whole uh