Get up. GET UP. SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >> A routine traffic stop turns into a chase after a Houston police officer tries to stop a suspect from fleeing. >> 1600 Kingwood. Suspect is trying. Suspect is behind the shopping center trying to drive away. >> Heading eastbound. This footage captured on August 17th shows Houston PD officer G. Choa approach a suspect who fled from a traffic stop and fire his weapon. >> After getting away, the suspect then abandons his vehicle, leading the officer on an intense foot chase. >> White muscle. Heading east on Gingwood. The officer is able to catch up with the suspect in a parking lot where he tries to arrest him. >> HEY, GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. GET ON THE GROUND. >> GET ON THE GROUND. TURN AROUND. GET ON YOUR STOMACH. >> GET ON THE GROUND. IF YOU GET UP, >> GET UP. GET UP. SEE WHAT HAPPENS. But as the suspect attempts to get away again, that's when the officer fires off his taser. >> DON'T DO IT AGAIN. DON'T DO IT AGAIN. >> The officer was able to subdue the suspect and waited for another officer to arrive before he was arrested. The suspect, who was later identified as Chad Michael Duhan, already had two open felony [music] warrants and is now charged with evading arrest. Neither the officer who fired his weapon nor Duhan were injured in the incident, but the Houston Police Department says the case is being investigated by the Internal Affairs Division. >> You know what I've been dealing with all day? Three murders in the city. And do you think I really care if I was going 20 m over the speed limit? >> Hey, I'm just doing my job. >> A New York district attorney signaled that she would resign after she apparently bered a police officer during a traffic stop. Refused to do anything, he said. [music] This was apparently all caught on body cam video in a bizarre traffic stop. We have thoughts. And guess what? Our guest, former Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Arinberg, also has thoughts. Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime. I'm Jesse Weber. Sandre Dorley. Do you know that name? She's the elected district attorney for Monroe County, New York. I should say at least for now. Why? because she apparently told the Commission on Prosecutorial Conduct that she would resign from her position as they were investigating her actions during a traffic stop back in April of 2024. Now, in May, a formal complaint was filed laying out allegations against Dory. And in June, she entered into an agreed statement of facts, saying that she understood that the commission was going to recommend that she be censured. According to the commission's June 26 report, quote, specifically the complaint alleged that respondent failed to comply with a lawful traffic stop and used the power of her office as district attorney for her own benefit and was belligerent and hostile towards the patrol officer when she a refused to comply with a lawful order to stop her vehicle pursuant to a traffic stop. Bal called the chief of the Webster police to seek special treatment. C failed to follow the police officer's directives. D made repeated references to her position as the district attorney of Monroe County. E was hostile to the police officer who was effectuating the lawful stop and repeatedly used profanity towards him. And F made a public statement that contained material omissions about her conduct and interactions with law enforcement. So, I want to bring on somebody to talk about this. Somebody who would never be caught doing anything allegedly like this. former Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aaronburgg who's with me here in studio. Dave, good to see you. Thanks so much for taking the time. >> Jesse, great to be back with you. >> And as always, please let everybody know where they can see more of your content, uh, because you do provide excellent expert legal analysis out there. >> Thank you so much. Yes, I do videos for Legal AF on YouTube, but also I'm the managing partner of Dave Aronberg Law. Do it. It's a uh boutique litigation firm and I just published a book, Fighting the Florida Shuffle, which is about the the fraud and abuse in the drug treatment industry and how federal laws unintentionally fuel >> this corruption. >> I think you brought a copy last time you were here, right? I think you did, right? >> I have a copy back in the room for you. And >> that feels like you don't have a copy for me, but that's okay. That I just caught him. I just caught him. He's like, I have a copy somewhere for you. It's it's in the mix of books. All good. All good. >> Yeah, it's in my other bag. >> It's in your other bag. uh got left on the plane. Okay. Um let's talk about this. When you hear a story like this, does it get you angry? Because it's interesting when I speak to police officers or former police officers about cases where you have officers acting badly or who charged, they say nobody nobody's more angry at a corrupt police officer, a bad police officer than another member of police because it it's a stain. When you look at something like this, these allegations, and we're going to play the video, does it get you angry? >> Sure it does. It really hits home because when you serve as a prosecutor, you stand on the shoulders of all the people who came before you. And one when one person acts badly, it tarnishes the whole profession. And before we came on, your team was surprised that I had already known about this incident before you sent it to me. Like, how'd you know? Like, because it happened to a fellow state attorney, a fellow DA. And of course I'm going to know because it's an embarrassment. And you know how I know is because other people sent it to me. See, they identify me with her because we're both elected DAs. Uh but what she did was absolutely unacceptable. She deserves everything she's getting and a resignation may be too easy. >> What's censure? >> Censure is just what happens in the world of politics where they say, "Shame on you. We are publicly naming and shaming you." But it really has no practical impact. >> She could stay in office. In other words, you could be censured and stay in office. >> Right now, if if you want a real sanction, it would be a suspension, a docking her in pay. It would be termination where she's like revoke forced to resign. She apparently is going to resign. At least she said it. There's no clear expiration date here. Yeah. >> And it seems like all the balls are in her court. So those allegations are on full display in police warn body cam video that shows what apparently happened when police officer Cameron Chrysafouli confronted Dory about going home instead of stopping like she was supposed to. Let's start here. >> Sorry, I'm the DA. I was going 55 coming home from work. >> 55 and a 35. >> I don't really care. >> Okay, >> so you can call this >> Can you come? Can you please come over here? You're on a This is on a traffic stop, ma'am. Yes, it is. You can call Dennis Colemire right now. >> Okay. I'm telling you why I stopped you. You didn't stop at all. Did you not hear my lights or sirens or anything? >> No, I didn't. Actually, I was on the phone. >> Okay. Well, you're not supposed to be on the phone while you're driving either. >> Yes, I am. With the handsfree. Absolutely. >> Okay. Why are you so upset at me? I'm doing my job. You You just admitted to me that you were going 55 and a 35 on Philips Road. >> To leave me alone. It's >> Officer Chris Fully. >> Christopher, >> can you stay over here, ma'am? You're This is a traffic This is This is a legal traffic stop. Do you have your ID? >> No, it's in my purse. Here. >> You have your purse right there? >> No, this is my lunch. Would you talk to your talk to Dennis? This is ridiculous. Just go away. >> Hello, sir. >> Good. Ma'am, can you please stay at the back? This is a Ma'am, this is legal traffic stop. Can you please stay over here? >> No. Hey, baby. Get your little guy out of here. Sir, I stopped her for going 55 and a 35 on Phillips Road. >> And she failed to stop. She drove all the way back home >> and parked in her garage. >> And now she's not she's not complying with any of my commands. Ma'am, do not go inside. >> Oh my god. >> Yep. Yep. All right. Ma'am, come outside. You can't just go inside. This is a traffic stop. >> Here's your phone back. >> I understand the law better than you. Would you >> 953? Can you have a supervisor come to the scene? >> No. Get out of my house. >> I don't know why. I don't know why you're acting like this towards me. >> Because >> can you please go to the back of the vehicle? >> I'm not going to. I'm home. I was going. I was Okay. 50. >> I don't care if you got home. You were supposed to stop at Phillips Road when I pulled you over when my lights were initiated. >> I didn't know you were stopping me. There was lots of other people on the road. >> I was right behind you. >> Yeah, there were other people on the road, too. >> Okay. I was directly behind you. >> Dealing with you right now. >> Can you please step over here? >> I'm not going to. >> What is the reason you're you're so against what I'm doing? I'm doing my job. You say you're a DA? >> I am the DA. >> Okay. >> Okay. Let me get you my badge. I am the DA in of >> I just don't understand the hostility towards me. I'm doing my job. No, you're being >> How am I being an >> I am the DA of Monroe County. >> I understand that. But that doesn't give you a right to go 55 and a 35. >> And you even admitted to me that you went 50. I understand that, ma'am. I understand that. >> I don't You know what? If you give me a traffic ticket, that's fine. I'm the one who prosecutes it. Okay. Just go ahead and do it. Go ahead. >> Dave, you're watching that. You were actually cringing. What part of it disturbs you the most? >> All of it. It was so uncomfortable because I was elected DA and when law enforcement stops you, you comply. You show respect. Especially because I know when you run for office, you say that I am pro law and order. I'm pro public safety. I respect our first responders, the men and women in blue. That's not respect. That was awful from beginning to end. Cursing at him. He's doing his job. Running away into the house when he tells you not to. then handing the phone to the officer saying, "This is your boss." Essentially, he's going to call you off. Credit to the sheriff or police chief, whoever that was, the I guess it's the chief of the town who apparently did not tell his officer, his employee to let her go. And if he had, it would have been a bigger scandal. >> Yeah. And and the fact she's like, "I I'm the one who prosecutes." Said, "I'm the one who prosecute." >> By the way, that's not necessarily true. >> No. No, not at all. >> Unless it's a crime, the DA's always is not the prosecutor. This is not a crime. This is an infraction. She knows that. >> Now, according to the officer's report, when he pulled up behind Dory Suburban, not only did she not pull over, she didn't react at all. She didn't just speed up or slow down. She just apparently kept cruising along at 55 m an hour. Just come outside over here. >> No, I'm not going outside. >> Okay. >> I'm waiting for you just to leave. >> Well, I'm having a supervisor come cuz that's what my chief told me to do. 5. Tell me what I >> This is >> Do you have your driver's license? >> I just showed you my driver. >> You show me your You showed me your badge. >> Really? >> EMS. A 14-year-old having a seizure. 200 East River Road, apartment 200 on the third floor. cuz I was going 55 up >> before I get to >> and I was just >> She's a DA. >> Yep, I know. >> And I was just trying to pull into my driveway. I was on the phone with Dennis Colemire saying, "Would you please tell the person who's following me that I'm almost home?" >> Ma'am, I understand you were going home, but I started my lights back at Phillips Road. Hey, >> on Phillips Road. Yes, you did. And there are other cars. >> I was right behind you. directly behind you >> at at the end. Go ahead. Like you want at the end of the day. Go ahead. If you want to write me a traffic ticket, that's fine. >> Okay. At the end of the day, >> at the end of the day, I was stopping you for speed. If you just stop bad day, I've been dealing with >> And I get it. And I get it. We have bad days also, ma'am. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> We have bad days also. >> My license back. I >> I'm going to just add it to the job real quick. You can just go and actually add it. You don't have to use the error. At >> the end of the day, I was just making a traffic sound stop doing my job. What I was supposed to do. >> Well, fine. Thank you. >> Okay. So, now supervisor's on his way and then we'll go from there. >> Supervisor's coming up here. >> Huh? >> Who? >> Sergeant Johnson. >> I understand you had like I get it. I We all have bad days at work >> and I'm going to go in the house. Seriously, this is ridiculous. >> No, this is a traffic stop and you out of everyone should know that if there's a legal traffic stop, which I have, >> I have the right to detain you until this is done. >> Then just write me the ticket. I really don't care. >> Now, Dory would end up making three calls to police chief Dennis Colemire about this stop. >> We're having supervisors come and then we'll go from there. >> Oh, come on. Just >> This is what my chief wants. That's at the end of the day. You called him. I spoke to him on your phone and this is what he wants. >> I'm going to call him again. Seriously, >> Dave, really what's interesting is if there wasn't body cam and it was his word against her word would be a very different case watching this very uncomfortable. You use the word entitlement, right? Entitled, right? >> First, he's driving a state car like a law enforcement vehicle. You got the Tahoe with the dark windows. She's driving around speeding. She thinks she's above the law. And unfortunately, when you are the chief law enforcement officer of the county, and that's what the state attorney or district attorney is, you sometimes can get lulled into a sense that you are above the law. And you should never think like that. You should be humble because you have the ultimate power of depriving someone of their freedom. You are not the police's boss. You're not their boss. It's a separate agency. And just because you work with them doesn't mean that you get to order them around or curse them. The whole thing is terrible. And just that sense of entitlement. Here's one other thing. I happen to I I'm sure she did not think that the body cameras were rolling because the way she acted, she probably just didn't even think that there was even a body camera there cuz had she known I'm sure she wouldn't have acted like that. >> Her defenses, you know, the I had a rough day. Oh, I didn't know that the lights were on for me. That doesn't quite add up. He was falling directly behind her. He knows what a She knows what a traffic stop is. She's saying, well, you could have been pulling over anyone else. No, he's he's just directly behind you, tailgating you essentially into your driveway. Uh the one thing I will say about her, the positive though, is that she has a cute dog. That is true. It is. The dog's very confused as well as to what's happening. So, uh I want to go back to this. According to the complaint, which relies on a police transcript, quote, "Respondent admitted that she had been speeding, did not want to stop on Philips Road, and chose to drive to her house. Respondent was upset that Po Chrysafouli did not recognize her vehicle. When Chief Colemire explained that the officer would not know who she was based on her vehicle and that she should have pulled over, respondents stated he should have run the plate. It's a big black SUV and now I've got like five cops here. Now, a sergeant and a lieutenant arrived at the scene to try to get things straightened out. According to the police transcript, when they told her that pulling over wasn't her choice, she said she made it her choice. And the senior officers scolded DA Dorley for her behavior. >> Now you mean it's a bigger deal. >> It's a really bigger deal. Start talking. It's a much bigger deal. >> Well, you you caused that. >> What do you want us to do? Not our job. Is it you? >> No, it's fine. I said write me a ticket. But I was just saying I was not stuck in those road at 5:30. Okay. >> Well, you broke another one because of that, right? You should know better. That's not an arrestable show. >> Why would you not >> should have known better. You picked up on something about that. >> They said it's an arrestable offense. She could have been arrested for fleeing and eluding, resisting arrest without violence. I mean, there's a number of things she could have been arrested for, taken away in handcuffs. She got off easy by just getting a traffic ticket. So, she's lucky. But in the end, not so lucky. >> Well, the responding officer went back to his car to write up the speeding ticket, bringing it back up to Dory, but even as he was trying to leave, the DA continued to argue. >> All right, ma'am. So, I'm issuing you speed and zone 55 and a 35. >> I'll take care of it since I'll be prosecuting myself. >> Okay. At the end of the day, if you see my lights and sirens behind you, and obviously they're going off, just pull over. We can have a conversation and be on our way. I kept my eye on your vehicle. I'm not going to check my computer to see what plate it is. If a vehicle is not stopping for me, I want to keep my eyes on that vehicle for my safety. So, I can hold it at the end of the day. I I'm sorry that you had a bad day >> and I'm sorry it went this way, but >> I do respect what you do. Have a good day, man. But I would say here's something else. Call Dennis on this. >> Call Dennis on this. Call Dennis on this. What do you think? >> So if she had just pulled over like she should have, like everyone else is required to, even the DA, then he could have run her plates and then he could have made the determination whether to give her a ticket. When I was the state attorney, I was pulled over by a different agency, the Florida Highway Patrol, because he got behind me and ran my plate and it came back as unknown. And so he thought, "Well, what is unknown? Is this a stolen car?" and he pulled me over in a restaurant parking lot. All these people looking and you know what I said to him? I said, "I respect what you do. Uh it's this it's unknown because it's a government vehicle and and thank you." And everything was fine. I didn't try to pull rank. I didn't try to tell him he's a jerk or curse at him. He's doing his job. And just a little humility goes a long way. He imagine, I mean, this is why this hurts me so much. If you watched another show, a TV show host, they wouldn't be as successful as you. But if you watched another streaming or TV show host, and they were making demands of their staff, bring me Dijon mustard, you'd be appalled by that, you know, kicking and screaming. That's how I feel about this. >> Yellow mustard probably I would demand, but I do like Djan as much as the next person. Okay, so 3 days after the traffic stop, so now we're talking about April 25th, 2024, the DA released a written statement about the stop. Problem with it, seems like it left out a couple of details. Here's what her statement said. Quote, "On Monday, April 22nd, 2024, I was driving home following a busy day at work. I admit that I was not paying attention to my speed on Philips Road in the town of Webster. Less than half a mile from my neighborhood. I noticed a Webster police car behind me. Once I realized that the intention of the car was to pull me over, I called the Webster police chief to inform him that I was not a threat and that I would speak to the officer at my house down the street. The Webster police officer followed me to my house and issued me a speeding ticket for my speed of 55 mph in a 35 mph zone. I acknowledged that I was speeding and I accepted the ticket. By 1 p.m. the following day, I plead guilty and sent the ticket to the Webster Town Court because I believe in accepting responsibility for my actions and had no intention of using my position to receive a benefit. Nobody, including your district attorney, is above the rule of law, even traffic laws. Anybody who knows me, understands without a doubt that I have dedicated my entire 33-year career to the safety of this community. My work to ensure the safety and respect of law enforcement is well proven time and time again. I stand by my work and stand by my commitment to the public safety of Monroe County. Is that exactly what happened? People lie. Video does not. Maybe if this were the 1970s, you can get away with that. But now there are cameras everywhere and that video is very telling. >> Why put out a statement like that? >> I think >> she have to >> you have to put out a statement. This became a viral thing and I think she assumed that most people did not watch the entire video. It's a lengthy video and they just heard what they heard through the news through people talking about it. But anyone who watches that video knows that what she said is not exactly what happened. Not even close. So, the Monroe County Board of Ethics thought that her statement didn't really line up with what had happened as well. So, they decided to do an investigation and it seems that they found Miss Dory violated section 4513A of the code of ethics. The statute reads, "Every officer employee should endeavor to pursue a course of conduct which will not raise suspicion among the public that she is likely to be engaged in acts that are in violation of her trust. She should not use or attempt to use her official position to secure unwarranted privileges or exemptions for herself or others. She should not by her conduct give reasonable basis for the impression that any person can improperly influence her or unduly enjoin her favor in the performance of her official duties or that she is affected by the kinship position or influence of any party or person. And the commission's report says that Dory acknowledged her behavior warranted censure. She also reportedly told the commission that she planned to resign, but didn't really give a timeline for when that might happen. Now, Dory released a statement after the report came out. This was reported by the Democrat and Chronicle, and it said, "I am content that the commission has concluded its investigation by recommending the censure. I have sought since this process commenced. I look forward to continuing to serve the people of Monroe County." Now, Dory has been district attorney since 2012 when she was the first woman elected DA in Monroe County. She's been reelected three times. She first ran as a Democrat, switched to the Republican party in 2015. The fact that that was what the report was, how significant is that to you? >> It's significant, but I'm wondering if there were other sanctions that were considered. I'm also wondering when she publicly said that she would resign. Did she tell the commission that after she got sanctioned or was it something she said in advance? because perhaps a reason why they only voted to censure her and nothing more is because she said, "I'm going to resign." But of course, she didn't give a resignation date and she's still in office today. >> I don't know if you know this, but typically DAs, how could they be removed maybe for something like this? >> I'm in Florida. There were two DAs removed by the governor for a lot less than this. He just didn't like their politics. This is like misbehavior. This is something that you would think every state has something in the rules that if you act improperly, break the law. I know there's always something back from the stone ages of drunkenness. Public drunkenness is always in there. Then you can be suspended, removed by the governor. >> And it's interesting they have, you know, rules that are specific to this kind of conduct or analogous to this kind of conduct because this is a very concern. This is a very fear, someone potentially abusing their position. Now, according to the Democrat and Chronicle, Monroe County Republican Party Chairman Patrick Riley issued the following statement. The incident in Webster was serious, unbecoming, and in the end extremely unfortunate. I am saddened by this entire situation, and I hope DA Dory can enjoy a fresh start in whatever she chooses to do next. We'll see what she chooses to do next. What do you make of that comment, that statement? >> Well, that's as far as he'll go to a fellow Republican who started out as a Democrat, then switched parties. But you can't defend that. And it's hard to >> also if if she says she's going to resign, then she's not going to have a future in politics. So why go out on a limb? Why make this the hill to die on for someone who's not going to be around politics anymore and just gives everyone in the party a bad name? >> What What do you got in there? What do you got in there, man? >> WHAT DO YOU GOT IN THERE? WHAT DO YOU GOT THERE? OH. Newly released body camera video shows a deadly shooting in Colorado after a woman [music] allegedly pulled a gun at an officer who fatally shot her. >> I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. >> It was just before 5:00 p.m. on July 25th when a Westminster, Colorado officer noticed an SUV parked in the road facing the wrong direction. Video shows him approach a forward-facing Jeep asking what's going on. >> Okay. Just How long you been here? >> Okay. I'll get them done. off to each other. >> The officer, Nick Adams, then approaches the parked vehicle. The woman inside, later identified as 46-year-old Alicia Duran, initially refuses to roll down the window. >> Eventually, Duran gives in and puts the window down, but refuses to answer the officer's questions. >> You're in the wrong lane. >> Are you okay? Are you okay, ma'am? What's going on? Tell me what's going on. >> Are you okay? >> Adams can be heard asking whether she's okay and calling in the situation on his radio. >> Can you tell me what's going on? Why are you in the wrong lane? Can you tell me why you're in the wrong lane? >> I don't know what I got here. I got a female that won't answer any questions. I think I'm in our vet. I'm in our turn. I need to go into the shops if you want to start one of them. >> Duran only replies when the officer asks whether she needs an ambulance. >> What's going on? >> Can you tell me what's going on there, please? Are you okay? Do you need an ambulance? Are you all right? >> Okay. >> When he asks if she's been drinking, she reverts back to silence. >> Have you Have you been drinking or anything? >> It doesn't look like you've been drinking. >> It's then that Duran reaches for something in her middle console. Adams can be heard asking her what it is before realizing it's a gun. What? What do you got in there? What do you got in there, man? WHAT DO YOU GOT IN THERE? WHAT DO YOU GOT IN THERE? OH. >> Adams grabs her arm before backing off and shooting at her. >> WHAT DO YOU GOT IN THERE? WHAT DO YOU GOT THERE? OH. >> IMMEDIATELY, Adams puts out a shots fired call and yells for Duran to stay still. >> 225. Shots fired. Shots fired. >> Don't move. >> Shots fired. All units code 9 channel one responding unit Sam 25. >> Are you okay? >> ARE YOU OKAY? >> When backup arrives at the scene, Adams removes the gun from the vehicle where Duran is already unresponsive. >> I've got the gun secured. No response from her. >> What do you mean? >> People down range appear to be code for >> Let's get her out of the car. You get the gun. I'll get her out of the car. >> Yeah, I'm trying to do all that, man. Give me a minute. >> You grab the gun. I got her. Just get that out of here. >> I don't think so. >> 911 Sam Robert 91 Sam Robert. We're going to need all eastbound going to be probably >> I got no pulse. >> All right. I'm securing this man. >> We have an inter. I'm secure this in my car. >> Adams then approaches the Jeep parked nearby, asking if everyone inside is okay. >> Are you all right? >> Copy. We have fire. >> ARE YOU OKAY? >> No one inside the Jeep was injured, but a bullet hit the windshield. Adams can be heard apologizing to the people inside before breaking down. >> Ma'am, we are down. >> Are you okay? I'm so sorry. So sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm very glad we can get you to Lamar for Westminster. Oh god. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. >> He continues on explaining what happened just moments before. She wouldn't talk to me. She just she had some some like charm or something and she wouldn't talk to me. I >> I said, "Do you need an ambulance? What do you need?" And she reached into the center console and I saw this gun and she reached for pointed it right at me. I was so worried I was going to shoot down range at you. >> Oh my god. The person inside the vehicle then identifies themselves as Jess. And Adams introduces himself again, apologizing. >> What's your name? >> Jess. You're fine. You don't need an ID. Jess, I'm Nick. Okay. You're going to need to stick around for us a little while. I'm so sorry. Holy. >> You can call anybody. >> You can I'll give you my work phone. You can call whoever you need. >> We'll We'll get We'll get somebody to talk to her. Okay. Yeah, I need >> Hold on a minute. I'm consoling her, man. I put one right to her window. >> Okay, >> she's okay. >> Are you okay? >> I'm okay. I'm going to secure this gun. I'm going to give her my work phone so she can make some sticking around for all. >> Another officer approaches, checking whether Adams is okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You sure? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come look at this, man. Come look at this. Next, Adams introduces Jess to the other officer before making a bizarre remark about America. >> This is Jess. This is my best buddy, Mark. Are you okay? Are you okay? >> The steering wheel. It's her birthday. Oh, >> okay. It's America. God bless America. Jess, I'm so sorry. Oh my god. Stay right here. Here's my phone. Okay. Next, Adams can be seen holding hands with another officer who appears to be comforting him. >> Take the pee. You good? You need anything here? >> No, I'm good. >> I've got a good >> Seconds later, another officer instructs Adams to turn off his body camera video. >> I've got the gun in my car. Sergeant, you want me to Mark to take the gun with us? >> Her gun. >> Leave it in my car. >> It's in the It's in the cup holder. Okay, let's look at me. Let's do this. >> Let's go off. Off off. >> Duran died as a result of her injuries. [music] As the investigation is still ongoing, Adams has been placed on paid administrative leave per department policy. >> Do not. [music] >> Hey, I think I got a fire alarm. I think I got a fire against33. >> ROLL THE WINDOWS DOWN NOW. >> ROLL THE ROLL. Everybody in the car, put your hand. Do not touch that gun. >> Keep your hands. >> Put your hands up. >> Keep your hands on the seat. My license down. >> Put your HANDS UP NOW. FRONT PASSENGER. Put your hands up. >> Don't move. Just keep your hands up. >> I see it. >> See it? >> Yep. >> Yeah. Hey, after you're in the front seat, put your hands up. >> Keep them up. >> Put them out of the window. Hey, >> we got Then we got a signal zero right here on my side. >> On your side? >> Yeah. >> Who has it? Front or back? >> He's in the back. >> Back to right. >> Unlock the doors. >> Unlock the doors. >> Who we starting with? >> This guy's got a gun right here. >> Tell him to put his hands up. >> Hey, put your hand up. >> Door's unlocked. >> Hey, you hear me? I'm going to open this door. You keep your hands out the window. Step about in your hands and do not. >> Hey, don't move. Don't move. Shots fired. Shots fired. Shots fired. SHOTS FIRED. SHOTS FIRED. SHOTS FIRED. >> Get your hands up. Get your hands up. Hold. Go where all the windows from. >> Thank you to you registration insurance. Damn, I left the insurance home, but I got the registration. >> That's fine. I just need the license. I'll look up the insurance. >> I ain't got no license, so I got I car in my name, though. >> All right, let me get the ID. What's up with your license? It was revoked. >> No, I never had I never I I'm I'm going to court for it right now to go work on my license. >> Okay. Any uh weapons in the vehicle I need to know about? No, but I just got off work. Really? >> I hear you, boss. Man, you got a license? >> No. >> I got insurance to the house right now. >> Approaching 125. There's a black charger. I'm going to try a step out the vehicle. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. >> Yeah, we're at 12. Oh, >> 91 Think back one. Go ahead. >> Oh, we got shots fired. Shots fired. Shots fired. >> 19 at 1071. 1071. I'm sorry. >> You're good to go. >> Hey, STOP. >> You're gonna get paid. An Indiana woman faces multiple charges after body camera video shows her escaping from handcuffs and running off from police as she was being detained. >> You're going to get on the Get on the ground. >> On August 29th, Evansville police officers pulled over a truck for a traffic stop. Officials say the woman in the passenger seat, 27-year-old Mileia Smith, had an affidavit out for her arrest in a separate case that was drugrelated. Video shows officers approached the vehicle and asked Smith to get out. You ever find the insurance? >> Um, no. I have State Farm. I think I have an old car. >> Okay. Well, he's going to he's going to have you step out. Okay. Just Mind taking your seat belt off. All right. I'm going have you step out as well. Just face the door when you do. Yeah. >> You got nothing on you. You going to poke me prop anything like that? >> No, sir. >> Okay. No weapons on you? >> No. >> I'm just going to check and make sure. >> The responding officer can be seen checking Smith for weapons before walking her to the backside of the truck. >> Okay. Your bracelet fell off. You can just shove that in your little pocket. Okay. All right. Just do me a favor. Come back here. All right. >> Mhm. Just I'm have you step back here. Okay. >> Right here. You step right here. >> Okay. All right. Is there anything in that car is yours? >> Huh? >> Is anything in that car yours? >> No. >> Okay. >> Next, the officer places Smith in handcuffs. >> Turn around for me. Okay. Mhm. All right. >> Place your hands behind your back. >> I will tell you in just a second. Okay. When you got nothing on you, it's going to poke me, stick me, prop me, anything like that. All right. Only thing on you is a bracelet and your phone. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> He then explains there's an affidavit out for her arrest. >> Was there an incident that occurred a few days ago? >> I'm sorry. >> Was there an incident that occurred a few days ago? >> Um, I think when I was raped. Well, was there anything? Was there any I don't The only reason I'm asking is you have a probable cause affidavit for your arrest out right now. >> No. I mean, as of now, >> I can't see what it's I can't see here. Stay right here. I can't see necessarily what it's for, but I can only see that there is one. >> What does that mean? >> It means that you have an affidavit for your arrest. That means you've committed a crime. Somebody >> I have a vehicle. >> I've I've already confirmed with records. Okay. Smith speaking through slurred words asks the officer to call a trooper. He then asks her to take a seat on the curb. >> Can you call Seriously, can you call um what's Cooper? Like it's my sister. I do not like I literally do not >> Cooper. >> Um he's an officer. >> Okay. >> Because that whole thing was completely messed up. I didn't find anything. But can you please call them? >> Are you Are you Are you on anything right now? >> No, I'm just really upset right now. >> Okay. Well, take a seat. And I will >> kick your legs out. Go ahead and cross your feet for me. You can cross your feet for me. >> Yeah, sure. >> There you go. >> The officer leaves Smith at the curb and begins speaking with the truck's driver. That's when Smith slides out of the cuffs and makes a break for it. >> There's your ID back. >> Thank you, sir. >> So, those those items, get them fixed. All right. You're good to go. >> Hey. Hey. STOP. YOU'RE GOING TO GET CHASED. >> YOU'RE GOING TO GET CHASED. GET ON THE GET ON the ground. >> Officers catch up with Smith after a quick chase and put the handcuffs on her once again. >> The whole thing. I don't want to go. They know. I swear to God. No. Hold on. They locked. >> Please [ __ ] uncle. >> Local TV stations report that after she was taken into custody, Smith complained of pain stemming from drugs she had swallowed before her arrest. She was taken to the hospital and later released and booked into the Vanderberg County Jail. Bra 54. 450. 4250 fire. Are you okay? >> Headquarters 43 shots fired. It's going to be a gold Cadillac northbound on WD as sent signal 5 and he's about to uh signal 4. Dude, >> I knew it, dude. I saw it coming. >> That was pretty close. He's taking >> Romeo Zulu. >> I have pretty bad, >> huh? >> Yeah. >> Look at these bullets, dude. Hey there. I I stopped you going a little fast. You realize this is a 35. >> That's a traffic stop of Brian Cobberger in Moscow. [music] Never seen by the public until now. >> Just for future reference, I may not. I'm obviously an honest person. I told you I wasn't wearing my seat belt. I'll tell you why this traffic stop mattered and why his defense team did not want jurors to see it at his trial. Plus, I have new details about Cobberger's strange behavior after the murders and the lies that he told. Welcome to Crime Fix. I'm Anget Levy. Back in August of 2022, you and I, we had never heard the name Brian Cobberger. Why would we have? Now he's infamous, an admitted murderer of four beautiful college students. In late June of 2022, Coberger had moved from Pennsylvania to Washington State to start his PhD studies in criminology and criminal justice at Washington State University. He was living in Pullman, Washington, and Moscow, Idaho, the home to another college, was just a short 15-minute drive away. The two cities were like one big community really. And Moscow was known to have better shopping. So someone driving from Pullman to Moscow, it wouldn't be a big deal. It would not raise eyebrows. On August 21st, 2022, Brian Coberger was in Moscow. It was a Sunday night, the night before classes began for the fall semester at the University of Idaho. It was just after 11:30 p.m. when Deputy Darren Duke of the Lake County Sheriff's Office stopped Coberger near a shopping center. a grocery store. WCO is right there. I actually stayed at a hotel at the intersection where Coberger was pulled over. It's a busy intersection. But what would become significant about this traffic stop months later was the location where it happened, the date, and the time of night. The traffic stop took place at the corner of Farm Road and Pullman Road, less than 2 miles from the house on King Road. Now, we have no way of knowing whether Brian Cobberger was in the King Road neighborhood that night. Maybe he was just at the store. He was a night owl after all, but the prosecution kept the traffic stop video under wraps to use at trial. So, let's take a look. Pullman farm with Pennsylvania. Lincoln Frank zebra 8649. >> Hey there. I I stopped you going a little fast. Do you realize this is uh 35? >> It's 35. >> It is. Yeah. So, you go out 41? >> Yeah. 43 is what radar said. Oh, yeah. Do you have your uh license, the registration insurance? [snorts] >> Were you wearing your seatelt when I stopped you? >> No. >> No. >> That's no good. >> Just being honest with you. >> Yeah, I appreciate that. Um, you guys are there's absolutely no point not being honest. >> Yeah. >> You have a radar. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, do you have a like a vehicle registration slip or something like that? >> Okay. >> But I give my insurance. >> Yeah. This is your insurance. That's good. Um, >> so this traffic stop is pretty routine. You can see Deputy Duke approach the vehicle and you get a decent view of the white Elantra from the bodywn camera. Duke asks for Coberger's license. Pretty standard stuff. >> Thing is, I'm on a overtime shift right now. One of the conditions we have to enforce seat belt laws. And so to write you citation for that, it's $10 in Idaho. Not a huge deal, but uh yeah. Be right back. Lights out three time code for air strike Washington. Last name Coberger King Ocean Henry Boy Edward Robert George Edward Robert first Brian boy Robert Young Adam Nora no see 329 through Pennsylvania valid 2024 and clear. >> Coberger's license came back with no issues, so Duke went back to Coberger and the Elantra. >> All right, sir. Here's your license back here. Um, just an infraction citation. The only thing alleging failure to wear your se your seat belt on traffic stop. I said the fine at that $10. You you do have the right to a hearing on this if you'd like one. If you'd like hearing, you need to request it before September 8th at 8:30. Otherwise, it'll automatically be entered against you. Lose the rights to the hearing. Uh, you just wanted to pay it. The mailing address there uh website right there. >> Yeah. I just have a question about that. So, in terms of like, you know, when you get a speed that's obviously reported to your insurancees, the same thing with the seat belt. >> I don't think so. I think it's only moving violations that go to to insurance or things that might put points on your license, >> but I'm not I'm not 100% sure. >> What I'm saying? >> Okay. Uh, could I could I get a phone number from you? >> Yeah. Why? >> Uh, we need to put it on the for the citation as it goes to the court. And just for future reference, I mean, I'm obviously an honest person, right? I told you I wasn't wearing my safet. >> When people lie to you about that, say I lied to you about that, right? Just my own knowledge. >> Mhm. >> Honestly, go back or just >> with with a seat belt like this. I didn't um check as I was coming up, so that's why I asked you. Do you usually >> I should I noticed you weren't wearing it and I'm on this emphasis and um like [snorts] I said I'm getting paid by ICD and they want us to enforce the seat belt law so so I was being more aware of that. That's where I'm coming from. >> Okay. All right. Have a good night. >> So you saw Brian Coberger asking some questions there. Why does the officer need his phone number? And he gave a hypothetical. say I lied to you. Would you go check that out? So, it's no surprise his lawyers didn't want that shown at trial. Here's his former lawyer, Alyssa Massa, during a hearing in April where she asked that the prosecution be barred from showing that video to the jury. In this video, things that make it more prejuditial than probative are that it provides presence in Moscow. It is at night. It is a visual of the car that is not just the um make and model. It is Mr. Cobberger's statement that he doesn't think state seat belts provide much in the way of safety. Mr. Cobberger's question about why they need his phone number. Mr. Cobber Cobberger's question about how the officer reacts when people lie to him about wearing a seat belt. If the court allows this evidence in, the state has the ability to use this to make many other points beyond identity. And the jury would have the ability to potentially seek to ask to rewatch the video and draw other conclusions that we are worried about such as as I mentioned him being at night, not wanting to it being at night, him not wanting to uh give his phone number, which could be construed as he wants to hide his identity. >> Date of this traffic stop. >> Pardon? >> Remind me of the date of the traffic stop. It is on uh no August 21st. >> Of course, the prosecution felt it was relevant and wanted the jury to see this. It's Coberger driving around Moscow late at night. They were going to present testimony at trial that his cell phone was within a football field of the King Road house 23 times between July and November. Just because it's pre prejuditial and just because the defendant doesn't like the fact that we can prove who he is, that we can prove what car he's driving, that we can prove what his phone number is, that we can prove his address. I mean, those are all things that tie together to connect the defendant to the homicides. Just cuz they don't like that isn't a basis to object to it. >> Judge Hipler decided to allow the prosecution to introduce the traffic stop video with some redactions. That traffic stop came a couple of months before another one in Pullman, Washington, where a Washington state police officer stopped Cobberger on October 14th, 2022. >> Hello. >> I am officer Langis. Stops being audio and video recorded. Think I know. I think you know why I stopped you. You ran the red light. >> What actually happened was I was stuck in the middle of the intersection. >> Yeah. So, I was >> I was behind you the whole time. Yeah. >> Yeah. So technically you're not supposed to enter the intersection at all for that reason cuz if the light turns red then you're stuck in the intersection and then you run the red light. So that's the reason I stopped you. Do you have your license on you? >> So you heard Cobberger there try to tell the officer what happened but she quickly countered with what she said actually happened. So, can you would you explain that to me a little bit further? So, in Pennsylvania, when you're stuck like in an intersection, you have to make the left. So, what would what would the appropriate thing for me to have >> done? Just just >> you're not supposed to block an intersection like that in Washington. So, just by you blocking the intersection, that's technically a ticketable violation. And then thus then you're running a red light. So it's another ticketable offense. So you're not supposed to proceed into the intersection until you can go because a lot of people do what you just did, right? Is like you're sitting in the intersection waiting and then turns and you're blocking. So >> yeah, there was a little bit of confusion with speeding because someone had stopped. I wasn't sure what they were doing and then they put on their light to turn. >> Mhm. >> So I thought that maybe they were letting me go through. >> Oh. >> Did you see that? >> No. Mm-m. feel like right before I made the turn, there was someone who like made a right. >> They didn't have their, >> you know, their signal on, so I wasn't sure if they were just waiting. >> Mhm. Yeah. So, I would just advise >> uh just don't enter the intersection until you can go so you don't get stuck. Um let's see. >> But in that situation, the best thing to do then would be back up and not >> I don't know if there's a best thing to do in that situation because you're either going to back up into somebody or you're going to run a red light. So, or you're going to be sitting in an intersection. >> Yeah. >> There's not really a great option there. >> Yeah. I was just slightly into the crosswalk. So, >> you know. Yeah. Where I'm I'm from Pennsylvania, we actually don't have like crosswalks. Oh. >> So, even if you're if you're kind of slightly >> they have there's a little bit more leeway as well. >> So, there Cobberger said they don't have crosswalks where he is from in Pennsylvania. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. But his conversation later continued with the officer who did not site him. >> I I'm actually just from a very rural area, >> so we just don't have crosswalks. >> Oh, >> unless I visit an area where there are crosswalks and then it's it's not very frequent. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I do apologize if I was asking you too many questions about the law. I wasn't trying to like >> No, no, no, not at all. Like I understand you're not from here so um if you don't A lot of people don't know a bunch of laws. like I only know it because this is what I do. But um yeah, >> now we all know what happened. Now recently Coberger decided to plead guilty and it was a little bit of a surprise but really not. And now he's been sentenced to four consecutive life sentences for the murders of Mattie Mogan, Kelly Gonzalez, Santa X Kernodal, and Ethan Chapen. Coberger was essentially a nightstalker. The prosecution would have argued at trial that he was prowling around the King Road neighborhood circling like a vulture looking for a place to strike. and he made his move in the early morning hours of November 13th. Now, we're getting more information from Moscow police reports about Coberger's movements the day of the murders and what he said and did afterward. One report says a person identified as T told me when they turned eastbound on the highway from the bridge, she saw a man walking in the grassy area between the river and the highway. This was in Clarkston, Washington. T stated she thought this was strange as there was nothing for anyone to be doing there. T stated that the man was walking eastbound and noticed her staring at him. T said the man looked up at her and then appeared to look down and avoid her gaze. I asked T what the man looked like. T told me she had seen much of the news coverage regarding Cobberger and that was what came to her mind, but that she was not certain he was the person she saw. I asked her if the man she saw would match Cobberger's appearance, and she said it would. I asked T what the man was wearing and she told me she thought it was strange as the man was wearing nice clothes. I asked if business casual was a fair classification and she said it was. So the person identified as T in the report believed that the person hanging out near the bridge near the river resembled Cobberger. What's interesting about this is it very well could have been him based on the clothing description. Remember the selfie Brian Kberger took that morning around 9:30 a.m.? Well, he was wearing clothes that are definitely business casual. So, was the person he saw near the river Brian Cobberger? It could have been. Here's what prosecutor Bill Thompson said at the plea hearing about Cobberger's movements after he took the selfie. >> The defendant's phone then went to the Lewis Lewon Clarkston Valley, approximately 30 miles south of Moscow and Pullman. Uh, and the defendant is actually seen with his car at various businesses down there. This this area uh is the confluence of the Clearwater River and the Snake River. Um Lewon is Idaho's seapport. Uh large bodies of moving water down there. >> And here's another interesting bit of information from a fellow TA of Cobber at Washington State University. In 2023, months after Cobberger's arrest, a teaching assistant at WSU who shared an office with Cobberger, told police that he considered him a friend and thought he was very intelligent, but also very selfish and also felt he wasn't honest. The man said Coberger would mislead him often when it came to their shared work and would have him complete work meant for Coberger. This man, whose name is redacted, said Coberger often talked about wanting a girlfriend. Pretty interesting that Coberger talked about wanting a girlfriend often and that he used his position as a TA to inappropriately interact with female students. The man said after the murders, Coberger was more talkative and there were other things. I'll call the man L. Brett Payne wrote, "Lold us about some injuries he witnessed on Coberger's face and hands. L was unsure of the date, but stated he thought he noticed the injuries on two separate occasions in October and November of 2022. L stated one injury was a large scratch on Coberger's face, which L described as looking like the scratches from fingernails. L said he also saw wounds to Cobberger's knuckles on two separate occasions. When L asked Coberger about what happened to him, Coberger replied he had been in a car accident. L also stated Cobberger was frequently 20 minutes late to classes. I asked L what he and Cobberger would talk about and L said Coberger liked to discuss his areas of study which was criminal decision-m and burglary type crimes. Now that is chilling given Cobberger's guilty plea. Another interesting bit of information, El told police that Cobberger had planned to fly home for winter break to Pennsylvania, but he later learned that Cobberger had driven back to Pennsylvania with his father. So Coberger had apparently planned to fly home, but it sounds like that plan changed sometime in December. Here's body worn camera video from one of two traffic stops in Indiana in mid December. >> Hello. >> How you doing? >> How y'all doing today? Good. Good. take a look at your driver's license real quick if I could. See, he's right up on that van, man. [snorts] He's right up on the back end of that van. Hold you over for tailgating. >> Is this your car? >> Okay, cool. Where you headed? >> Well, we coming from WSU and uh >> what's WSU? Yeah. >> So, we're Okay. I I'm having a hard time hearing you because of the traffic. So, you're coming from Washington State University. >> Yeah. >> And you're going where? >> Oh, >> we're going to be going. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> So, we're a little We're slightly punchy. We've been driving for hours. hours, days. >> Almost. >> Okay. And what did you say about some SWAT team thing or something? >> We now know that the FBI identified Cobberger as the suspect on December 19th and told Moscow PD to look at him as a suspect, which they did. Pennsylvania State Police and the FBI started surveilling Kobar after that. They saw him putting his trash in neighbors trash cans and wearing rubber gloves in stores. He was taken into custody during a SWAT raid on his parents' home after midnight on December 30th, 2022 and told police they should get coffee when this was over. When questioned by Detective Gilbertson from Idaho State Police and Moscow Police Corporal Brett Payne, he asked for a lawyer when the topic of Moscow came up and whether Cobberger could tell them anything about it. Cobberger was asked if he followed the news and said, "Of course he did and knew about what happened in Moscow." Detectives later found many screen grabs about the murders on his cell phone. >> We went into this interview, we used a lot of influence and guidance from the FBI and their behavioral analysis unit. They help us a ton in framing our investigative our interview strategy rather. Um when we spoke to Mr. Cobberger, we kept it pretty surface level to begin with. The idea being get him to speak and keep him speaking. Um it was pretty surface level. Um, and then when we tried to get into things a bit more detail, he decided to end the interview. Um, so that's pretty >> as soon as we tried to get walk into the purpose of why we're there, which obviously he knows we're uh detectives from Idaho. So, um, uh, that's when we really started to shut down and, uh, and then he just shut it down. So, >> what was his demeanor? >> Like calm, relaxed, >> say very similar to what you see in whenever you see him in court. Kobberger is now serving his four consecutive life sentences at Idaho's maximum security institution. He's known simply as inmate 163214. It's okay. We got him. We got him. Okay. >> A former California sergeant now faces multiple charges after his alleged excessive use of force during an arrest this spring. >> Okay, we got him. We got him. >> I got him. >> Okay, raise your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back. Now, >> are you going to get another tase? >> Mercedes S11. We're we're 415 with this individual. Taser deployment. >> It happened on March 11th in Merced County, California. Body camera video shows officials with the sheriff's office respond to the scene of a car crash. >> What's going on, man? >> How you doing? >> Good. Good. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> All right. I'll see you when we get done. >> So, what happened? I I I tried to take um Belchure honestly for a short way to go down here, but honestly I this road I I swear I just didn't even know where I was going. >> Officials tell the driver, Lewis Jackson, that he's suspected of driving under the influence. Jackson can be heard on body camera video admitting he's drunk. >> Honest with you, okay? I'm going to be transparent with you. Okay. Right. >> All right. Um just because due to the condition that But the car went through the fence and stuff and you did say you had been drinking, >> right? >> Okay. >> I'm going to have uh >> I'm going to jail. There's no need for a sobriety test. There's nothing like I'm I'm here. >> Yeah. >> Wait right here. Okay. >> So, look, they're they're just they're going to do their test. Okay. >> But I'm just wanting I'm not to waste your guys' time. There's no need for somebody. I'm drunk. >> I've been drinking. >> After this, an argument breaks out and Jackson is seen lunging toward then Sergeant Dustin Wit. Video shows another first responder pull out a taser. >> Licensed driver to drive the car, right? >> Not necessarily. Get out of my girl like that. >> Okay. >> Get off. I'm leaving. >> After this, Wit can be seen on video repeatedly kicking Jackson and stomping on his head. Another first responder can be heard telling Wit to stop. After that, Jackson is handcuffed. >> It's okay. We got him. We got him. >> We got him. >> Okay. Place your hands behind your back. >> Place your hands behind your back now. Are you going to get another tase? >> Roll over. Roll over. Roll over. >> Hey, stop playing like that. Roll over. Roll over. Come on. Come on. Let me start 11:41. >> Roll over. >> I'm sorry. >> Roll over. I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. >> Sit up. >> Sit up. >> Sit up. >> Video shows these same moments from Wit's perspective. >> Okay, we got him. We got >> him. >> I got him. >> Okay, raise your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back now. >> Are you going to get another tase? >> We're at S11. We're 415 with this individual taser deployment. Roll over, partner. Roll over. Roll over. >> Hey, >> stop playing like that and roll over. All over. >> Come on. Come on. >> Merc 11:41. >> No. >> Roll over. >> I'm sorry. >> Roll over. >> I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. >> Sit up. >> I'm sorry. >> Sit up. >> Sit up. Wit resigned from the Merced County Sheriff's Office this June after an internal investigation. He was charged with assault by a peace officer. An assault likely to cause great bodily injury. >> I just literally trapped all my friends that were all drunk. >> That's award-winning nurse Crystal Tadlock apparently failing a field sobriety test and she's not happy about it. >> At the window, well, I'm a nurse and when you come through my hospital, don't worry. I'll let you die. >> I go through the body worn camera footage that has this woman making headlines for all of the wrong reasons. >> Stop. You're putting my life at risk. Stop texting and driving. You're putting my life at risk. Welcome to Crime Fix. I'm Anget Levy. Crystal Tadlock is a nurse in Texas and she's making a name for herself, not for saving lives, but for being drunk and becoming a viral sensation for all the wrong reasons. It's sort of ironic because she was once honored for her work as a nurse. She was a recipient of the Daisy Award in 2021 for her care and compassion to patients and others. In 2021, the foundation wrote, "Crystal is an exceptional ICU nurse who always goes above and beyond when providing care for patients as well as assisting the health care team. Crystal always demonstrates a compassionate, caring, positive attitude towards patients, family, colleagues, and all healthcare disciplinary teams. Crystal always willingly makes time to help others whenever we need her assistance. From assistance in a code or patient deteriorated situation to clean or bathing patients during the pandemic. Crystal worked five to six days a week to assist the team and take care of patients. Crystal is not only kind to patients patients families. She is also kind to all of her colleagues. During the pandemic, Crystal volunteered to be assigned more CO 19 patients so that her colleague who has small children did not have to take care of CO 19 patients. Not only does she take very good care of patients, but Crystal also always goes above and beyond in communicating with patients families. Crystal is a Daisy nurse because she always demonstrates compassionate, caring, and positive nursing characteristics toward patients, family, and colleagues. So, Crystal sounds like a very lovely co-worker and friend, but members of a local police department got to know a different Crystal last weekend. It happened in Magnolia, a small city about 45 miles northwest of Houston early in the morning on Saturday, October 11th. An officer said he clocked Crystal Tadlock driving 66 miles hour when the speed limit was 50. And they say what happened from there only made things worse. The Magnolia PD posted on Facebook last weekend a traffic stop was conducted on 1488 after an intoxication investigation. and the female driver was arrested for DWI. The female, who is a nurse, stated that if any of us came to her hospital that she would make sure we died. Unfortunately, we couldn't charge her with not being a very nice person. Yikes. So, let's get right to that body warn camera footage so you can see for yourself. >> Hey, ma'am. I'm officer Kasanova, my police. >> How you doing tonight? Good tonight. >> Good. How are you? >> I'm good. So, reason for the stop, ma'am? Speed limit is 50. You're doing 66 mph. Okay. And a reason for that speed. >> I didn't even realize I was going 66. >> Yeah, you were going 66. Where are you coming from tonight? >> I'm coming from a concert. >> Where at? >> The Woodlands. >> Who was singing? >> Um, it was >> I'm sorry. They're moving. >> Okay. And you just heading home right now? >> Yeah. >> Who are you on the phone with? >> My husband and my partner. >> Okay. Well, >> I have a baby. >> Okay. Okay. >> I drop my friends off and I'm heading home. I'm a nurse. >> Okay. >> Almost immediately, Crystal Tadlock announces that she's a nurse. And a lot of times, cops and nurses get along really well. Maybe she thought this would grease the wheels a bit. >> Okay. What time do you start drinking? Uh, maybe 10:00. >> So, you got there at 8:00, you started drinking at 10:00. >> Yeah. >> Okay. How many drinks do you have? >> Uh, two. >> How many alcoholic beverages? Let's Let's put it like that. What type of alcohol do you have? >> I had a beer and wine mixer. >> Okay. So, how big was the beer? >> Not big. I can't >> Can you tell me 10 oz? 15 oz? >> Less than 10. >> Okay. Okay. Well, I can smell a strong odor of alcohol this morning from the vehicle and your breath. You have bloodshot, glassy eyes. You have slurs. >> Come get me. >> Let me finish. You have slur speech. >> So, I'm going to run you through some test to make sure you're okay to drive. >> Please. I'm all you. I've been doing this for years. Can somebody come? >> Can I see your ID, please? >> As Crystal exits the car. >> I I do so much good for this world. Okay. >> What's that? This is the coffee. >> What is that? >> It's a cranberry fizz. It's no alcoholic drink period. >> Okay. No, you can you can leave in the car. >> All right. Uh to the back of the car. Can you put your hands on on your car? Do you have any weapons on you? Any needles? Any knives? >> No. No. >> Okay. >> You can check all my >> She agrees to participate in some field sobriety tests despite her belief that she's good to drive. That sucks. I just literally chopped off my friends that were all drunk. >> I feel like I'm going to pass out because of my knees are locking. >> Don't lock your knees. We're almost done. >> Yeah. Keep keep looking at the light. All righty. We're good. Okay. Next, what I'm going to have you do, uh, you say you have your, you need your glasses to walk. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Where are they? >> They're not. >> All right. Um, >> can I grab it? >> Yeah, go ahead and grab it. >> Okay. >> Oh, you know what? >> What's up, >> dude? [ __ ] sucks. >> Oh, they're right here. my front. I couldn't take my purse in because it was like bigger. It was bigger than the thing that was allotted. You know, >> I hear you. >> They didn't let me take it in. >> Officer Kasanova then tells Tadlock how he'd like her to do the test where you have to walk a straight line. It doesn't appear to go very well. >> What I'm going to do, so what I'm going to have you do right now, are you comfortable walking on those shoes? So, you want to take them off? >> Um, I mean, they're boots. I'm not used to them. >> Okay. Do you do you want to take them off? Okay. >> Can you help me or no? >> What's up? >> Is this going to go against me because they're tight? No. Cuz I just had a baby. >> And that's fine. That's fine. I'm asking you because I want them I want you to feel comfortable. >> Okay. Yeah. I don't feel comfortable cuz I wear these every like once. >> Okay. >> My foot grew when I had a baby. >> Okay. >> Eight months. >> What's your baby? Okay. Okay, what I'm going to have you do, you're going to take nine heel totoe steps down this line. Once you reach your ninth step, you're going to plant the lead foot on the ground. Take a small series of steps, turning yourself back around, and you're going to take another nine heel to toe steps down this line. >> That's so crazy cuz I'm like not even driving. >> Okay. Well, let me finish. While you're doing this, you're going to keep both arms down by your side. You're going to be looking at your feet at all times. You're going to count the steps out loud. And you're not Let me finish. And you're not going to stop until you have completed the exercise. >> The nine steps. >> Ready? >> I'm ready. Three. Four. >> Then there's another test that involves counting. >> 1,00 >> Look at the elevator foot. Look at Look at your foot. get it. 1,00 1,002 1,003 1,004 1,005 I haven't drank in a long time because I've been breastfeeding and so I quit breastfeeding about a month ago. So I'm very careful because, you know, I don't want to do too much too fast because I have a baby, small baby, and I'm a nurse. >> Okay, I hear you. All righty. Uh, so what I'm going to have you do, man, right now is put your hands behind your back. Here they're going between the tails. Let me double lock them so so they don't lock on you. >> Do you want your shoes? >> Where am I going? >> To jail. Am I really going to chill? Do >> my f just >> Yeah, I want my I would like >> Okay, I'll I'll bring them for you. >> And I would like my cell phone. >> Yeah, I'll bring your cell phone and your ID and your shoes. Okay. Do you want your Apple Watch in the car or do you want to take it to >> me? >> Uh we can take it off. >> I mean, >> okay. Just just have a seat. >> So, things have been pretty cordial, but when Officer Kasanova loads her into the car, things start to go sideways like What's the reason I'm going to jail? >> Okay, >> because hold on. >> Do me a favor, sir. Get on. Get in the car. I'll answer all the questions you want. Get in the car, please. Left foot first. >> Watch out. >> Wait. >> Watch out. I'm not pushing you. >> Why are you taking me to jail? >> One second. But >> shouldn't you tell me the reason you're taking? >> Give me one second. I was I'll play that not a just a second. >> But wait, >> 4848 checking both there. >> 4848. Go ahead and show one thing. >> Am I going to lose my >> Am I going to lose my nursing license? I have no idea. I don't deal with any of that. >> It's okay. It's okay. I just actually do a lot of good for people. >> Okay. >> So, what about my cell phone and my my car? I've never been in this position. >> Okay. >> So, you're kind of just like throwing me in a car and I don't know anything. >> Okay. Like I'm saying >> because I passed I passed my test. >> Do you see this paper? I'm going to be playing an audio. That audio is going to be playing is going to be reading this white paper. Okay, let me go ahead. I'm going to turn it back here. >> I can't see that. >> Let me turn the light on. >> No, I can't see any of it. >> Okay. I said all the >> No, you don't aren't good at your job, bro. >> I'm sorry. >> Yeah, I'm sorry. >> Turn on all the lights. The reason why I had to have my glasses I need to know what to do with my car and my cell phone. >> Your vehicle is going to be done. >> No. >> Yes. Why are you so >> I I I don't think I've been nothing but professional with you. >> Yeah, sure. >> All right. I'll be playing an audio. Make sure you listen to it. >> I know. That's because ICE hasn't picked you up yet. [laughter] >> Out of acts alleged to have been committed while you were operating a motor vehicle in a public place or a watercraft while intoxicated. Automated message starts playing aloud for Crystal Tadlock, but she isn't having it. >> You don't have a warrant. >> All righty. Do you understand what was just read to you? >> No, I don't. >> Can I play? >> You cannot go through my car without a warrant. What are you doing? >> Do you understand what was just read to you? >> I don't. >> I'm going to be playing for you one more time. >> Play it all you want. Where's my phone? Where's my phone? >> I have it with me. >> So, where does it go? >> I'll be taking it uh with you to jail. >> To jail because I couldn't walk straight because I had a eye injection yesterday >> because my perception is permanently off. It's clear that Crystal Tadlock is starting to lose her patience. Is this all on recording? >> Everything is being recorded. >> Okay. So, you want to make jokes like that. >> Jokes. >> Can somebody go make sure my door is shut because you're not allowed to go through my car without a search warrant. >> I'm not. >> Yeah, you're not. >> Why not? >> Because you're not. No. What? Right. Isn't that the rules? That's a great question. And the answer is no. That's not the rules. >> Okay. Well, that's great because you're half American. >> I'm actually I'm full American. >> Well, that's great. I love that. >> I am full South American, by the way. >> Love that. Where are you from? Brazil. >> Uh, maybe, maybe not. >> It's so funny, bro. You're laughing at the window. Well, I'm a nurse and when you come through my hospital, don't worry, I'll let you die. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> Wow. >> Oh my god. >> All your family members. And this is all on recording. >> Hospital. >> What? Yeah. What hospital? So I never go there, ma'am. >> Yeah. >> What is it? >> You can say that on recording. What hospital? So you never go there. You can say that. >> You are literally saying that you're going to let me die. >> No, you can say that. [laughter] What hospital? You can say that. Yes. Do you not hear me? >> Yeah. Greater Heights. Don't go there. >> What? Greater Heights. >> I don't know if that's a hospital. >> I have no idea. She's a nurse, though. >> Uh, Memorial Herman. Yeah, it is. It's a hospital in Greater Heights. >> What's your supervisor? >> I've worked there for seven years in the ICU. >> Seven years. ICU? Why are you being such a >> Cuz you literally just said you don't want me there cuz you're going to let me die. >> Well, yeah. I mean, you're not that great of a person. You think you can just treat me like this? >> How did I mistreat you? >> I mean, come put on my shoes so I'm not so uncomfortable. >> Yeah. >> Like I just told you, I had an eye injection yesterday that literally messes with my perception. >> Okay, ma'am. I need >> Can I please use my phone? I'll just sucks for you because I'm not going to blow and I literally have proof that I had an injection yesterday. So that just makes you look so stupid. >> Why are you so mean? >> Because it mean because I'm not drunk. >> Because I'm not drunk. >> And I have a newborn that I'm trying to go home to. This is my >> You should have thought about before. >> I'm not drunk. That's the problem. >> Drunk. >> That's why I'm so mean because I'm not drunk. And I had an in eye injection yesterday that I have proof for. So that's what sucks about your decision to put me in the back of your car. >> Why did you pull me over? >> I told you. >> You're probably You're probably >> Tell me again then. >> You're probably very >> You have me on recording, so tell me why you pulled me over. >> Pull Why did you pull me over? Will it make you happy? >> Why'd you pull me over? >> Repeat the reason you pulled me over. >> Repeat the reason you pulled me over. >> Repeat the reason you pulled me over. Repeat the reason you pulled me over. >> Why >> will it make you happy? >> Is this funny to you? >> I'm going to ask you. >> Because I see your face. >> Oh, wow. Why are you so mean? because you're all on recording and this makes you look stupid. I had an eye injection injection yesterday. >> Yesterday. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So dumb. >> Those words are not very kind. >> The fact that I had an eye injection yesterday. So dumb. >> What? >> I'm asking you the reason why you pulled me over. >> Because you were speeding, man. I have something called liver malary aneurysms. >> I'm sorry. >> I have something called liver malary aneurisms. liver malary aneurysms that affect the periphery of my right eye and I had an injection for it yesterday called vibbismo and I get it every 8 to 10 weeks I'll go blind when I'm 80 or nine so thanks I guess I shouldn't be driving at all >> Crystal Tadllock then asks for an accommodation Can we move? >> No. >> Can you call my husband, please? >> No. >> I was on the phone with him. >> Okay. >> Why are you such a sucks, dude? Making 70,000 a year. >> Was it >> I said your life sucks. making 70,000 a year being a cop pulling people over for speeding when they have a vision problem. >> So you're allowed to speed when you have a vision. >> Yeah, exactly. I'm allowed to speed. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I didn't know that. >> So great. I can pull over. I've never been arrested for speeding. I've sped many times and pulled over. >> As a matter of fact, >> and had a ticket. As a matter of fact, in Texas, you cannot be arrested for speeding. Oh, well, >> just so you know. >> So, I'm arrested for what you think is called drunk whenever I have a periphery problem. And the longer you sit here and wait >> called driving while intoxicated. >> Driving while intoxicated whenever I'm not going to blow in a machine for no reason. >> No, I'm not. >> Why? >> Because I'm not going to. Because everybody knows not to when they get pulled over. Dude, it's on all the documentaries. Don't blow. Don't blow. Don't blow. Even if I was straight. Even if I wasn't. Even if I was not anything. Even if I was. Even if I wasn't. Even if I was. Even if I wasn't. Even if I was. Even if I wasn't. I'm not blowing, bro. >> Everybody knows not to blow. So, >> so y'all they just allow you to sit here and be >> they allow you to fight back. >> I'm sorry. >> They allow you to fight back with >> fight back. What do you mean? >> Yeah. Like you're allowed to talk back to your clients. >> I'm not >> like me as a nurse. Me as a nurse, if I have somebody talking to me like this, I don't say a damn thing. >> I just keep my mouth shut. So that's why I'm surprised. You as a cop, you just keep your You just keep arguing with me. >> I argue with you. >> Yeah, you are. You're talking. You're saying >> I can just stop talking to you. >> Yeah. >> Is that okay? >> And you just call my Where's my phone? >> Can I stop talking to you? >> Where's my phone? >> Can I stop talking to you? >> Where's my phone? >> Okay. Bye. >> Okay. Bye. >> Okay. Bye. Okay. Bye. In his report, officer Kasanova noted that Crystal Tadlock had a strong odor of alcohol on her breath. >> Can you please stop screaming? >> No, I cannot stop screaming because you disrupted my life. >> Very loud. >> I don't give a >> Oh no, stop screaming. >> Oh no. Oh no. [laughter] Stop screaming. Stop screaming. I have so much authority. I wear badge, dude. Why the is he in my car? Why the is he in my car? That's my personal property. You have no idea what you're coming. What? What's the is your name? >> What's your name? >> What's your name? >> What's your name? Oh, you can't multitask. Oh, what a bro. You're Dude, you're a man. You can't multitask. >> That's the exact problem. I'm a man. I can multitask. No, you can't. My husband can't even multitask, >> bro. You're Why the is he in my car? This is so funny to you. What are you doing? You want me to put you in restraints? >> What are you doing? >> What are you doing? What are you doing? >> Trying to read my rights, bro. I just had a injection and you provided me information that I can't read. >> I asked you. I can't read it because I just told you. During the transport to the jail, she continues HER RANT. >> STOP TEXTING AND DRIVING. YOU'RE ON THE COMPUTER. STOP. I HAVE A [screaming] CHILD. YOU'RE PUTTING MY LIFE AT RISK. >> Why are you speeding? I'm not a threat to society. >> Oh, I got a gun. I'm going to pull it out. This is such the problem with America. I'm getting hauled my ass into jail for having vision. Take a magnifying glass. This is so funny to me. Honestly, this is hilarious because I'm literally going to get out of this because I literally have a health condition and it's funny. You're going to be so embarrassed and I'm also white. Yeah. >> And you're also what? >> White. White mother. White. And I know you wanted me to hear say that. And I'm only saying that because you're being a racist. >> It's beginning to look a lot >> like Christmas. >> Let's listen to this. >> While you [music] >> I've literally had no problems with cops, but the fact that you're not white is my problem. So rush me there. Get me the out of your car fast. You don't even have an accent of of an American. Now you know there's lots of fbombs in there because we're dropping all the audio every time there's a bad word. Following her arrest, the Memorial Herman Greater Heights Hospital released a statement. It reads, "Immediately upon learning of this incident on Saturday, we took swift action to suspend the employee pending investigation. She has subsequently been terminated. The safety and privacy of our patients, visitors, and workforce are our top priority, and we take such matters very seriously. Crystal Tadlock was booked into the jail, and Officer Kasanova noted in his report that she also told the jail staff that she would let them die, too, if they went to her hospital for treatment. Now, prior to being booked into the jail, Crystal Tadlock had her blood drawn and she has since bonded out of the jail and she's awaiting her next court date, likely at home with her baby. >> So, as I was over there, my partner was in before me had some thoughts about some stuff going on down in Miami. So, what's up with that? >> Just wanted to drive down to Miami for one, a road trip, and two, to go to a church to plan for later. >> Plan for later. What you got planned later? a tank later. >> Newly released body cam video shows a chilling admission from a man pulled over for a headlight being out. He randomly told officers that he wanted to kill dozens of people. And that's not all police discovered after pulling him over. Police in South Florida may have thwarted eventual attacks on a church and a school all because they pulled over Henry Horton for having a busted headlight. Here's his mug shot. We'll talk about how his court case just wrapped up and his sentence in just a moment. But let's go back to what officers in Jupiter, Florida, came across when they pulled him over in September of 2023. >> All right, Mr. Henry, you want me to come out? I'll show you real quick what we're talking about. Yeah, here. Just make sure you turn over there. So, if you come out over here, see how that's completely out? >> Yeah. So, it's a quick fix at O'Reillies. It's what, like maybe 50 or 60 bucks, especially for a truck. Quick fix. >> I've heard you can use like a wrench thing to pull out the pull it out and then have reinstall the new light. >> Yeah, it's easy. O'REy's does it. So, I rather >> you buy one there, they'll install it for you. >> I'd rather have you do it at O'Reillies, pay 60 bucks to get it fixed instead of giving you like $160 citation. And then another thing, >> you got to have your registration on you in the vehicle, right? >> Got to have it. >> Yeah, you got to have it. You can have a picture of the insurance. You just got to have a copy of the registration of the vehicle cuz obviously I can go back to my system, do a little research and I'll find a car registered to your mom. >> But if let's say my system is done, you can't prove to me that that car belongs to you, right? >> Yeah, you can't. I couldn't prove that. >> So other than that, like I said, just >> like I was saying the car, a couple weeks ago there now. Be careful. Make sure that >> Yeah, you can. It's a yes or no. It's It's not meant to like intimidate you or nothing like that. Yes, we can search. >> At this point, it appears to be a very casual traffic stop. You can hear Horton was originally hesitant to let officers search his vehicle. Here's what an officer saw as he was going through his back seat, though. Horton had what appeared to be a BB gun and that knife in the car, but then these writings on notepads. From here, officers put Horton in cuffs and detained him. >> You said Henry is your name? >> Yes. Can you stand for me? I'm just going to check the box real quick. Make sure you got nothing sharp on your back. >> That's just our policy. Just keep your hands behind your back while we're doing this. Okay. >> Yeah. >> No, you're being detained. >> You're just being detained. You're not You're not This doesn't mean you're going to jail. Doesn't mean you're going anywhere right now. >> One officer then goes back to the car and finds more writings, including one with swastikas drawn on the page. Horton later admitted to having a bong in his car. Marijuana is still illegal in Florida. But then the officer goes back to Horton and has a conversation about those writings. And Horton admits to much more than just having weed in his car. >> All right, Mr. Henry. >> Yes, sir. >> All right, sir. So, here's the deal. So, obviously you're spoken speaking with my partner as I was searching the car and stuff. So, I found a bond. So, like I said, I appreciate you being super honest with me. That's all it is. I mean, just some water and stuff like that. It's not a big deal. Um, so as I was over there, my partner was informing me. I had some thoughts about some stuff going on down in Miami. So, what's up with that? I just wanted to drive down to Miami for one a road trip and two to go to a church to plan for later. >> Plan for later. What you got planned later? >> Attack layer. >> Attack layer. >> Yeah. >> What's that? >> A attack. >> Oh, attack. >> Yeah. >> Oh, a tech. I heard tack layer. What kind of attack? >> Like either shooting or stabbings. >> Okay. Have you been having these thoughts recently? Yes. >> A lot or just every now and then? >> A lot. >> A lot. Okay. Have you been Have you tried talking to some kind of professional about this kind of stuff or No, >> I tried to get a I tried to get to a therapist, but it was like a weight list or something. >> Oh, okay. All right. >> So, you were going down to Miami to go first hang out and you would go to a church. What's the What was the church for? >> Um church was location of my later attack. >> Yeah. >> It was for your later attack. >> Yes. >> Okay. What was uh up with what was your other location for attack? >> Um high school >> and Okachobee up north. >> Okachobee. What's a what's uh particular by Okchobee? >> Is that it's a small town up north near the lake? >> Mhm. Yeah. Know I'm familiar with that area. It's a nice area. >> Yeah. >> What's uh But what brings you to that uh area or the high school? >> Some issue I had with an administrator when I was still in school. >> All righty. So with those issues, you wanted to just basically go over there and attack them or have an attack plan. What were you specifically wanting to do? >> I wanted to shoot I wanted to shoot until like 15 people. >> 15 people. Why 15? >> Actually, yeah. 15 cuz it was an odd number. You >> like odd numbers? >> Yeah, I like odd numbers most of the time. >> All right. Is you said you had specific problems with administrator. Did you have someone in mind and someone specific in Target? >> Yes, Mr. Stewart. >> Steuart. What did Mr. Stewart do to you? >> He uh Okay, so here's the story. Um, we were going to go on a field trip to Busch Gardens somewhere. >> Okay. >> And I and they searched they were searching all our backpacks and I had alcohol in mine and then they took me to the Mr. Stewart's office who's the student dean >> and I was suspended for a week >> and I was also put in a rehab rehab program. >> Oh, okay. >> With a D uh DCFS. >> Okay. Department of Children Families. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> How old are you right now, Mr. I'm sorry, Mr. Henry? >> 19. >> 19. Okay. >> I was 18 when this happened. >> Okay. So, last year. >> Yes. >> Okay. When did you graduate high school? >> May 2022. >> Okay. Last year. All right. Awesome. So, when did you want to Obviously, you said you're planning your attacks and stuff like that. When did you want to execute these attacks? >> On my 22nd birthday. >> On your 22nd. Why particularly your 22nd birthday? goes with my 21 cuz after I turn 21, I want to spend my last year alive drinking and drinking like a madman. >> Okay. So once you turn 21, drink like a mad man. Then when you turn 22 >> Yes. >> You want to execute these plans? >> Yes, sir. >> Why at church though? >> I just >> Did you have a particular number for the church? About 10 >> 10. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Were you going to Were you going to execute that plan when you got to Miami tonight or >> Not tonight, but some other time later. >> So, you were just going kind of over there kind of like on a recon mission? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. No worries, man. So, all right. Just give me a few minutes and we'll be heading out of here. All right. We're going to go try to get you get you some help. Okay. >> Can I Can I at least be out of here? Out of this car real quick. >> It's going to be a quick uh 20 minute drive down south. We're going to go to what we call JFK North. It's going to be a mental facility hospital. Hey yo, could you uh turn off my hazards for my car and take the keys, please? >> The keys are going to go with the tow truck charger. >> Yeah, but what about uh my hazards? Can you turn them off, please? >> He's going to turn them off. Yeah, he's >> That's going to kill my engine. >> Yeah. No, no, you're I turned your car off. I turned your car off. He's going to turn off everything. He's going to make sure your car is in tip top shape, as well as my partner that was here talking to you for a while. >> Oh, Jesus. My family's going to hate this. >> No, it's not a big deal. But, uh, like I said, we're going to go down to JFK North. It's a mental health facility. They're going to try to get you the help you need. All right. >> And then from there, we'll talk a little bit more. So, just hang tight. >> Per the officer's body cam, Horton was arrested for having drug paraphernalia with marijuana residue. He then was taken to a mental health facility and evaluated. So, now we're going to fast forward a couple weeks to October 5th, 2023. This is the day that Horton is released from that mental health facility and police take him into custody and charge him for making those threats. Let's listen to part of what Horton says to himself during the car ride. >> So, I'm being arrested for the threats. >> That's what he said. I don't know. I don't know to whom or >> Sanders, you go on the other side. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> I don't want to I'd have to hop in there. He's going to go on the other side and just uh seat belt. >> So, it's about So, the So, the jail's about 5 minutes from here. >> It's not far now. >> Okay. >> Once you get there, they take the handcuffs off. They just say uh who you are and uh >> the the mug shot too. >> Um I don't I don't know. They always do photo but sometimes Yeah. It might have to be the one closest to them. >> Yeah. There you go. There you go. As you get there also take the handcuffs off when you get in. Okay. >> Okay. Awesome. Appreciate it. All right. This is great. >> You mind moving for this guy? >> Uh, yeah. Pull it forward. Um, >> yeah. Bring it to you. >> You don't have your key over there. >> This is great. >> Like a pickup truck. >> I thought I was just going to get arrested for the bong or something. So, I guess they dropped the charge on the bong or something. I don't know. >> They had to Do not miss these. >> He's got a brown bag in there. [snorts and sighs] Well, this is how my life is going now. I'm going to jail. It's a felony. Now I'm a convicted felon for the rest of my life. I'll never have a gun again. continue in the background. Maybe they'll get me off some probation or something. I doubt it. It's a go felony. Now I'm screwed. Horton told police officers that he would have thoughts about killing people when he didn't take his medication for a mental health condition. And the reason that he had gone off his medication is because it doesn't mix with smoking marijuana, which is what he wanted to do. Here's part of his interview with police after he was released from that mental health facility. >> What about your 22nd birthday? [clears throat] >> Um, no, neither that. [snorts] So, you're you're saying you're saying no now, right? And when we were here last time, remember we we asked you the same question and you're like, I kind of still want to do it. You were just saying no because you didn't want to be here any longer, >> right? >> Um, so is that still the case that you just you don't want to be here, so you're just going to say no, but you still want to do it? They're discharging your ears long enough, >> but we want to know how you feel and what's going on because if if you need help, if we have to get you some therapy or something, we need to know where to get you. You know what I mean? >> Right. >> You you're leaving here. Like, they don't want you no more, >> right? >> That's fine. >> Correct. >> So, you're saying no that you're not having those thoughts, >> right? >> Okay. What What changed your mind about that >> in in the last like week since we've talked to you? What what changed your mind? just thinking about how it would affect my family if I did do the things that I that I wanted to do back then >> but don't want to do now. >> Okay. So, you're you're saying that just the repercussions for Yes. >> doing that correct >> has has changed your your mind? >> Yes. >> Okay. Are you did they give you any medication or anything? >> Yes, they did give me medication. >> Okay. >> What are they giving you? They're giving me respol, trazadone, Lexapro, I forgot the other ones. >> Same stuff that you were prescribed, right? >> Yes. >> Now, do you think that medication is helping you right now? >> Yes. >> Okay. If you were to stop taking that medication, do you think you would be back in the same mindset where you're thinking about having those thoughts? >> Yes. >> Okay. Now, another thing you brought to me last time was you like to smoke your weed, right? >> Which I get, >> right? >> You plan on smoking weed when you get out of here? >> Not anymore. >> You're going to quit weed altogether? >> Yes. I'm going to quit weed altogether, >> even if it's legal. >> Yes. Are you Are you just telling us that cuz you think that's what we want to hear? And be honest. Like, it's not a trick question, right? You don't have any weed on you. You're not going to jail for weed. We're just trying to to to get an honest answer. Like if you're like, "Man, as soon as I get out of here, I'm gonna go light up a bowl as quick as I can." >> I get it, right? Because you you like weed, >> right? >> Right. We know. >> So, Right. So, we're not we're not trying to trick you with this answer. It's it's a it's a straight up, you know, we're just trying to gauge where you're at, if anything's changed since the last time we talked to you, or if it's still the same. If it's still the same, it's still the same. That's fine, right? And if it's changed, we just want to know what's changed, right? So when you get out, you're gonna go smoke up a bull, right? >> Yes. [laughter] >> We we know. We're good with it. >> Yeah. >> I mean, honestly, it's eventually going to be illegal. >> Yeah. Eventually. >> What what concerns me is, and again, nothing wrong with it. Just asking so we know. >> You told me last time the reason why you stopped taking your medication was because of the weed, >> right? >> Is that going to be the same concept? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, chances are you're not going to take the medication cuz you want to smoke your weed, >> right? Okay. But then is that going to change? >> Do you still want to follow this plan? >> What plan? Or >> your 22nd birthday, January 2nd, 2026. >> Not anymore. >> Okay. But what's [snorts] going to stop that idea? What changed? Cuz you still want to smoke your weed. You're not going to take the medication, which I get. Then how do I know you're not also still planning on doing this thing? >> Because the weed keeps me calm and collected and cooled down, >> right? So, here's the thing, Henry. Your life is just as important as everybody else's, right? You you you are an important person, okay? And if the medicine is stopping you from having these thoughts about going to like churches and schools and killing people, right? >> And that's a good thing, right? Because nobody wants to get hurt and nobody wants to see you get hurt. But then you're going to stop taking the meds and once you stop taking the meds, >> those thoughts come back. >> Those thoughts are going to come back. Right. >> Right. So you you can obviously see the concern that we have because yes, it's it's a terrible thing for things to happen to other people, but we don't want to see anything happen to you, >> right? >> Either, right? >> Correct. >> So that's what we're trying to get at is is you know, you it doesn't sound like you can do both. You have to kind of pick one or the other, right? And not having these these thoughts about going and you know, having your life ended with a bunch of other people, you know, would be the more you know, reasonable way to go with it. So, do you do you not agree with that or or what are your thoughts on that? >> I don't really have any thoughts on that. >> You just like weed. >> Yeah. Just like weed. >> I get it. >> Okay. If that's Listen, if that's your thought, if weed has that much of a draw, then I mean, that's your answer. Yeah. >> Right. Nothing's going to change your answer, >> right? Just get in my car or whatnot. >> Okay. And but you you feel that if you go back to weed that you said it keeps you calm that you are you are you going to go back to the point where um you're going back down to uh Marjorie Stoneman Douglas and you're going back to these churches to do recon. Do you do you think that's still going to be an issue if you stop taking these meds? >> I think it would be an issue if I did stop taking these meds. >> Okay. And you plan on stopping to take the meds because you want to smoke weed? >> Yeah. That way I don't mix them together. >> Right. So, but you can see how that's an issue. Right. >> Right. And you you just you you agree with me that you're you're going to start doing that stuff again the minute you you if the drugs work out of your system. >> Right. >> So, how do you how do you think we can stop that? >> I don't really know. Okay. So, I know you said you don't have the plan anymore and the weed keeps you calm, but to what you were telling me, you were smoking weed when you had these thoughts. >> Yes. >> So, do you think this plan is still going to take place? Be honest. I can't arrest you for the plan. It's a plan, but I need to know what's going on. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> I'm not trying to jam you up. >> Yeah. that what's said is said and it is what it is. It's not like you haven't told us already, >> but I need to know the truth. I don't need you to tell me what you think I need to hear. I don't think I don't need you to tell me what you think I have to be told so you can get away or get out or you're leaving here regardless. I'm not trying to baker at you anymore, >> right? >> But I need to know what's going on with you cuz I can't help you if you're not honest to open up to me, right? >> Does that make sense? >> Yes. >> So, what's what is the deal? Do you do you still want to hurt people? Do you want to carry out? Is it is in the future you'll think about it later? Is it >> is it is it something we're going to turn on the news one morning or one evening and we're going to see Henry on the news for doing that? >> No. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you, man. You said no. But you you you got see you got that shitty grin on your face, right? And you're like, Right. and and be honest. No is the answer that you think I want to hear. >> Right. >> Right. >> What's the truth? >> We're we're we're being honest with you. And like I said, we just want to know the truth. You you can't be arrested for thoughts and and and dreams and stuff like that, right? So, we're just trying to gauge where you're at right now. Um in that is is would it be fair to say that once you once you get off the the meds, you're going to go back to plan that and I'm probably going to see you on the news. >> Most probably. >> Okay. Last month, Horton pleaded guilty to two counts of written threats to kill or do bodily injury and one count of possession of paraphernalia. He was sentenced to three years in prison. Joining us now is former Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg. Also now the host of Court Authorities on YouTube. Good to see you, Dave. Thanks for being here. Uh the body cam video we watched, it was chilling to hear someone in a car say that they were driving somewhere to recon a place for a mass shooting that he has planned years in advance. When you look at this story, how it all played out, what stands out to you? >> How casual it was to talk about something so horrific. This person clearly has mental issues. It doesn't mean though that he would be found not guilty by reason of insanity. I mean, the fact that he plead guilty and got incarceration for 3 years shows you that he knew an insane defense would be really difficult. Uh but there are always issues when you're dealing with someone like this who's so cavalier, so casual in talking about his attempts to shoot up a school, kill uh many people that you worry as a prosecutor that they would be unable to actually go to trial because a court would find them incapable of doing so, not competent, which means they could not understand the charges against them and cannot assist in their defense. So, there are a lot of moving pieces for prosecutors when you're dealing with someone like this who clearly has mental issues, but probably not enough to rise to the level of an insanity defense. Now, >> how do you balance where this is someone who, you know, yes, they have mental health issues, but then there's this threat to the public. You want someone to, you know, deal with those mental health issues. Maybe medication helps him. Um, how do you balance that the world of of you know the need to help people, criminal justice reform with mental health, but then at the same time someone who clearly is saying that they are a danger to the public? >> The largest mental health provider in Palm Beach County is the county jail, the sheriff's office. And that's an indictment on the county, the the state we're in where where we underfund our social services. But it's also realistic that the only way he's going to get help and stop being a threat to society is to lock him up. That's just reality. And the fact that his mother is saying he's actually a good boy who just has mental health issues and he should not be incarcerated. Then what's the alternative? We just don't have the social service network to keep someone in a mental hospital or to force him to take the drugs that he needs. A lot of times you take the prescription drugs that you're given and that should be enough. But then you know here's someone who's a clear threat to the community. And do you wait for a tragedy to occur before you do something? No. This was handled the proper way. Law enforcement did something. They got involved when they saw that he was a threat and the prosecutors did the right thing. He's facing incarceration. Uh, I think that the system worked in this case, but the system also needs to be revisited as what to do with people with obvious mental health issues because, god forbid, someone falls through the cracks and then you're left picking up the pieces afterwards. And it's unfortunate when we see so many cases and mass shootings that fall through fall through the cracks and then you you have this search for why someone would do something. And in this case, if he had gone through with it, I I think that it would be difficult to kind of put him in a box because there was this family trauma apparently that he had. He has these mental health issues, but then he has the writings in the car. I mean, in your experience, how difficult is it to find a motive? Like when you look at at this, like what would have been the motive in this case had he actually gone through with it? >> The motive was that he was fighting with his family and he wanted to prove himself to them. I mean, we've seen motives like that before. We've seen, you know, anger towards the family and so they kill family and others to try to get back at them in some way. And clearly, you're not dealing with someone who has a full deck of cards, but at the same time, people who are normal don't do these things. So, you're always dealing with some level of mental health issues. It doesn't mean though they they escape culpability. It means we need to make sure they're no longer a threat to the community and you hold them accountable for the crimes that they are committed. Now, if they're unable to assist with their defense, if they're not competent to stand trial, then they'll never go to trial. They'll get sent to a mental institution and may never face justice. If they are competent to stand trial, then they can put on an insanity defense. But here, you got to show that in all these insanity offenses that the person did not know the difference between right and wrong. But when you look at the way they acted with police, their attempts to cover up what they were trying to do, that shows they knew what they were doing was wrong. I mean, that's why he wanted to do it. He wanted to to show his parents by doing something so horrible. So, he knew what he was doing was wrong. That means he's ineligible for an insanity defense, but he still could avoid trial altogether by not being competent to stand trial as two separate things. Competence to stand trial and later insanity defense. So, there are a lot of moving parts here for prosecutors. One thing that I would add, Chris, is that the law enforcement officer was amazing here. Do you know that this individual, >> this defendant could have just said, "No, I don't consent to a search of the car." Because when he was stopped, it was just for like a broken tail light. So, the cop is not allowed to search the car except he got consent. So, that is what led to all this. And and one thing I noticed too with the body cam footage was and and police officers, they're they're trained to handle these situations, but I found it chilling where it goes from just a basic traffic stop for a headlight that's out and then suddenly he starts talking about an attack. And in that moment, you don't really hear much of a difference in the tone in the police officer's voice. like he continues the conversation and was able to get a lot of information out of him that kind of went along with those writings that he had in the car. >> I hope that officer got a medal because you identified something important. If he had made this into a huge deal right away, then the suspect could have just clammed up, could realize that he's in grave legal danger. Instead, it was like matter of fact, conversational and it led to this arrest and incarceration. I mean, kudos to law enforcement. You know, they they get a lot of criticism for not dealing with people with mental illness properly, for letting people fall through the cracks, but there's a lot of burdens on their shoulders. They're asked to do so many things. They're asked to be social workers essentially. >> Yeah. >> And they're not really Yeah. They We have asked police to do so many things. We've overstretched them. And so when a tragedy occurs, they get so much blame. But we should look at ourselves to see the kind of responsibilities we give them when a social worker is probably better at these types of situations in dealing with people with mental illness than a police officer. But in this case, this officer was heroic in his efforts. >> Yeah. And uh you just never know when you when you pull someone over, you know, where that conversation's going to go. Especially was that night, you know, might have been a long shift and he still was able to to do his job so well. I want to go back to the insanity defense argument because for so many people they would just look at someone who's saying this as like clearly this guy's mentally unwell. What would be an example of someone I want to say the Aurora theater shooting in Colorado that was an insanity defense. What is the bar? What is the example of someone that can actually effectively make that argument uh opposed to someone who has mental health issues but will just be incarcerated? >> Insanity offenses rarely work. People think that they work more often than they do because it worked in the most high-profile case of them all. You and I, or at least I'm old enough to remember John Hinckley Jr. who attempted to assassinate President Reagan. You're a youngster, so you may not remember that, but but he successfully got this. >> You read about it in your history books, but he successfully got the insanity defense, not guilty. Now, he went to a mental institution. He was not released, but now he was. just a few years ago maybe I think it was just just happened recently he was released and that is very possible so people uh are very concerned about insanity offenses and some states like Idaho have said we're not even allowing it anymore there is no more insanity defense in Idaho for example so it depends on the state and what it means is if you did not appreciate the difference between right and wrong you didn't know what you did was wrong illegal then you're going to go to a mental institution rather than a prison. And the way to to take advantage of that defense is is not to try to cover your tracks. So if you try to cover your tracks, why do you do that? Why do you try to hide? Why do you try to cover your tracks from police? Because you knew what you did was wrong. You knew what you did was illegal. So that's why it's so hard to get the insane defense. pretty much have to like commit a crime and then when police arrive, you got to jump in their arms and hug them and and call them daddy or something because it is really difficult to sustain. >> And what does the law say about when someone is making threats that it's actually something that can be charged that it's not just words and not just a first amendment, but what's the bar where you're actually charging someone and they're going to go um to be locked up? I think he was on a million dollar bond when he was in in jail, which is a pretty high number. And then to to actually face prison time. >> Yeah. The first amendment is not absolute. You threaten a person, you're committing a crime. Now, for a while, the law in Florida was that if you threatened a inanimate object like shoot up a school, that wouldn't necessarily be a crime because unless you're saying I'm going to shoot up teachers, students, that's different. But shooting up a school. So, we have addressed those inconsistencies, those loopholes in the law to make it so that if you threaten to shoot up a school, that's a crime. And because the first amendment is not absolute, you can prosecute people for speech. But it is a high bar. If you said, "I hate the school. I I wish them harm." That's not enough. But if you say, "I'm going to cause harm to a school." Yeah. Then police and prosecutors will rightfully be breathing down your neck. Knowing everything we heard in the body cam video, what he was planning to do years from now, uh I think it was going to be on his 22nd birthday. What do you make of three years in prison and then the 12 years of probation after? >> Oh, I think that it was a just sentence. We're talking about someone who pled guilty. There didn't have to be a trial, so there's no question about an insane defense. And because I don't think an insane defense would have worked, there's no issue of competency to stand trial. So had he gone to trial, there's a real issue whether he could have ever been incarcerated, ever been put on trial because he could claim that he's not competent. He doesn't understand the proceedings around him. He's not able to help with his defense. There will be experts called in. They'll interview him and then it delay, delay, delay. then he can get sent up to a a mental health facility in North Florida to get brought back to mental health. And so so much uncertainty. Instead, you got this guy off the streets three years, 12 years probation. If he steps out of line, he'll get put right back in. And I think for a guy who is doesn't have any long wrap sheet, that was a really good resolution to a case that didn't have to go to trial. So I think my old office under new leadership, Alexia Cox, did the right thing here. >> Yeah. What does the 12 years of probation look like? What type of supervision will he be under? Because I think for many people in the public, you would say just throw this, you know, many people will look and just say that this guy should be away for a long, long time. Just don't want to have to deal with it. But like what type of supervision for when he gets out to make sure that he doesn't continue to try to plan something like this? Well, because this is such a serious charge, I I think the level of supervision will be uh more intense than it would be for someone who is shoplifting. So, the probation will be strict. Uh they'll he'll have to report in person to the probation officer. They'll be watching him and making sure that he's on meds and if he strays off the meds, that's a violation of his probation. He can go back to prison. So, they'll be pretty strict with him. They're not going to let him just go by the wayside. So you have to be realistic in the case that he pleads guilty to a guy who has no prior record. 3 years in prison to someone who perhaps could have avoided incarceration altogether because of his mental health issues is a good resolution plus the 12 years of probation. So I really do believe that this was a positive resolution for the community and for the state attorney's office. >> Yeah, it's it's incredible to think too that it was it was a traffic stop. I mean, if that headlight doesn't go out, you know, is he is he still, you know, continuing to plan these attacks? It's incredible to think about. Um, former Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Arinberg, always great to have you on Law Crime. Thanks for being here. >> That's what you were hiding. >> Did you crash your car down here? >> I got eyewitness that did see you. He's got some pretty substantial damage from hitting this tree. >> Got a vehicle that's not uh acting right. We're going to do a quick vehicle stop. >> You have your license, your registration, your proof of insurance. >> You got anything in the car that could hurt me? >> No. >> You know your right rear tail lights out? >> Is it broken? >> Yeah, it's broken. You didn't use any signals. You're just coming around the corners pretty fast. What's up? >> I'm sorry. Well, I mean, what's going on >> right now? I don't have it, sir. >> Okay. Who's Who's the name on the registration? >> My name? >> Your name? Yes, sir. >> Okay. Do me a favor. Go ahead. >> Step out of the car for me. Just come on straight back here. >> Okay. Um, >> come on. >> Hello, >> Richard. >> Who's this? >> Hang up the phone and step out of the car. >> I will now. >> Right now. Yeah. >> You're about an inch away from going to jail. Okay, sir. >> What part of this don't you understand? >> I'm getting there. Okay. >> No, you're not. >> You're stalling. I want you to get out of the car. >> Come on, man. >> Step out of the car. >> Damn. >> Put your hands where I can see them. >> Okay. >> Bring your hand around right now. >> What? I just got my money, man. >> You put your hand. >> All right. I'm just put my money in there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Don't >> put your hands behind your back. >> Don't, man. Don't, MAN. DON'T. >> OKAY. WAIT. >> Give me your other hand. >> GIVE ME YOUR OTHER HAND. >> I AM. >> That's what you were hiding. >> Damn it. Here. >> Don't go. >> Right here. >> Okay. [screaming] Okay. >> You got it. >> Lean back. What? >> Spread your feet. >> SPREAD YOUR FEET. >> SPREAD YOUR FEET. >> He's got a ton of dope on him. >> Just got off work with all that. >> Oh, I didn't have that. >> Dude, it fell right out of your pocket. >> No, it didn't, man. >> Yeah, it did. It's real simple. All right, you're under arrest. Is it meth? I'm going to test it in about 5 minutes. I'm going to find out real quick. What is it? >> I don't know what it is. >> Okay. Well, it was on you. >> It wasn't on me. >> Yes, it was. >> And you'd have probably been going home, had you just been a little more cooperative. >> I just got paid. How much we got there? >> Over 500. >> Uh, probably close to 2,000. >> 2,000. >> 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >> 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 >> That's my That's my money. I just got saved. I can prove that. >> What are you on right now, sir? Nothing in my my teeth hurt. >> How come you're sweating like a madman? >> What car? >> I understand. I have to stand next to a hot car, too, though. I got a turtleneck on and long sleeve shirt, and I'm not sweating anywhere near like you are. >> I'm going to test it real quick for a meth. >> You got a disco. >> Bad. >> Wow. Wow. >> That turn. >> It's a bingo. >> Very quick. Okay. >> It's pretty pure, >> Richard. Once we get this weighed, you're under arrest for uh possession of methamphetamines. >> Is there anything in the car that we need to be worried about, my friend? Huh? >> My cell phone. Get my cell phone. >> Your cell phone? What else in there? >> There's a pink paper in there. >> Is there anything illegal? Any illegal contraband? Anything in there? Any narcotics or anything like that that we need to uh be concerned about? >> Should be good. >> Burglary, burglary, grand lararseny under the influence of a controlled substance. Yeah. 2000 was the most recent. burglary a bunch of times. Grand lararsson a bunch of time. Any narcotics related stuff? >> Yeah, that's the next sheet. Well, the the bottom one was >> that's the next page. >> Yeah. >> Holy smokes. >> Under the influence of a controlled a felony, so I'm not really sure what that is. >> Um it drugs controlled. Yeah. Everything >> Everything's local. >> Yeah. Like I said, we'll give rope a call, let them know we got him, and go from there. >> Definitely. >> And like I said, I'll get that weighed out. >> Go talk to him about his stint in prison and whatnot. >> I seen him crash. He's wearing a blue jacket that says LA. Big letters. up with suspect. >> Suspect what? >> Suspect what? >> What you mean suspect? >> Apparently, it's a 20,000 two hitand-run non-injury traffic collision where a vehicle crashed into a tree and the male driver fled the scene. Possibly related to an earlier call of a reckless driver in the area. Some guy just crashed into our yard over here. He's actually over there right now. >> Is he going right back to that house? >> Yeah, he went back down there. What's he wearing elsewhere? >> He's wearing a blue jacket that says LA. You know, like the LA Dodgers. Big letters. LA >> and he's a Mexican guy. He's got a shaved head, bunch of tattoos. And I >> Who saw him get out of the car? >> Huh? >> Did any of you see him get out of the car? >> Yeah, I did. >> Okay, stick around. >> I seen him crash. Who's the guy with the LA jacket on that I just saw back here? >> This is my boyfriend. >> Hey, let me see your hands. Turn around. Co your fingers. >> 1932. I'll be out with suspect. >> What was that? Excuse me. Suspect what? >> Suspect what? >> Yeah, you excuse me. Suspect what? >> What you mean suspect? >> Did you crash your car down here? >> No, sir. I did not. >> I got eyewitness that did see you. I don't know what you're talking about. >> Well, >> well, you show me those eyewitnesses. What? >> You got ID on you, Anthony? >> Probation of parole. >> Huh? >> Two warrants? >> Yeah. One for County. A traffic warrant. >> Uh-huh. >> And one for um uh LA County. >> For LA County. >> My knee is kind of hurting, sir. >> Why is your knee hurting? >> I heard it earlier today. Did >> you heard it when you crashed the car down here? >> No, sir. >> No. I'm a professional boxer. >> Professional boxer? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Baby, I'll be okay. >> I love you. >> All right. >> Evidently, they've been here drinking. He takes off in the car. He comes back on foot. He crashed the car. And All right. Well, I'm going to go down here, get these guys set up to ID him. >> Okay. Give me a shot. >> Okay. He's got some pretty substantial damage from hitting this tree. It's obviously what caused the airbags to go off and I would say it's not drivable any longer. >> Did you get him? >> Yeah. >> I saw the whole thing. He came down the street like six or seven times flying and he came by and hit those rocks right in my driveway and came right through here and hit that tree. I just saw a big cloud of dust. >> Okay. >> So, that's what I saw. >> And then you saw him climb out of the car. >> Then I saw him climb directly out of the window. >> Okay. I'm going to use you as a witness and I'm also going to use you to positively identify him. >> Okay, Jason, go ahead and bring down. Take a look at him. See if he's the guy who got out of the car that you saw. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> Is he hurt? >> Yeah, that's the guy. >> Yeah, that's him. >> That's him? >> Yeah. >> You sure? >> Yeah. >> Hey, Anthony. How you doing? How much did you have to drink tonight? >> Let me tell you exactly what I had to drink. I had uh one uh vodka and um I don't even know what type of juice it is. >> So, some vodka and some kind of juice. >> Vodka and some type of juice. And I had 1 to 11. >> 24 oz. >> 24? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate you being honest with me. >> Nothing else. I mean, me and my wife had had a little argument, you know. I took off. Next thing you know, I'm in the middle of it. I remember having a crash, walking down the street right here and next thing you know I remember me killing me and then next thing you know I was just like I was thinking I was like what am I doing and I was by the gate and that's when I was just like >> I really didn't know nothing else. >> Okay, Anthony, you're going to be booked in at Victorville Jail for driving under the influence. You're also being charged with the misdemeanor hit and run over here. All right. Well, thanks for your cooperation. A woman's body found in the backseat of her boyfriend's car. Now he's charged with her murder. Just ahead, I'll tell you what police claim the boyfriend said. Welcome to Crime Fix. I'm Anget Levy. Summer Rooney's friends and family are mourning her death. She was just 30 years old. And on New Year's Eve, they learned that she had been murdered. Jake Johnson, her boyfriend, is being held without bail in the Salt Lake County Jail in Utah. He's being held on suspicion of murdering Summer. It's a terrible, terrible case. It's so sad. A probable cause statement lays out what police in Haramman say happened on 1231 2024. Heramman police received a call for an agency assist from Saratoga Springs Police regarding a DUI investigation where a deceased female was located inside the vehicle. Officers with the Bluffdale Police Department located a vehicle at the 7-Eleven at 15871 South Wedwood Road, Bluffdale, Utah. On 12:31 2024, at approximately 10 after midnight, contact was made by officers at this location. So, it's just after midnight on New Year's Day, and police say they start talking to Jake Johnson. While contacting the driver, the female victim was observed in the rear of the vehicle. The driver was removed from the vehicle and detained. The victim had significant injuries and trauma that would be consistent with a homicide. Police took Jake Johnson, Summer's boyfriend, into custody and they took him to the police department. The probable cause statement continues, "An interview with Johnson occurred post Miranda." Johnson stated that his relationship with the victim as intimate partners currently living together in Herman. Johnson stated he was in a previous argument with the victim, stating that it was over with their relationship. It's not clear when this argument took place. Maybe earlier that evening. Now, back to the probable cause statement. When asked by officers if the victim had any injuries, Johnson stated physical trauma, but did not elaborate any further. When asked how the victim got into the vehicle, Johnson said he put her into the vehicle. Summer Rooney's family released a statement to local TV stations. It reads, "The family of Summer Tatiana Rooney is heartbroken by her tragic and untimely loss. Summer was a vibrant, kind, and loving soul who touched the lives of everyone she met. She was deeply loved by her friends, family, and co-workers who will always remember her infectious personality and the joy she brought into their lives. This senseless act has left an unfillable void in our hearts. We ask for privacy during this difficult time. As we grieve and remember the incredible person that Summer was, it's so incredibly sad. And Summer's friends and family have been posting on Facebook. They're just stunned by her death. One friend wrote, "I don't even have words right now. You brought sunshine to everyone you knew, hence your name, Summer Rooney Tishner. You always knew how to make me laugh when I was having a bad day. You brought light to everyone that knew you. You were taken much too soon in such a horrific way, it's hard to process. Another one of Summer's friends posted, "Oh, Summer, I can't stop going back to our funny old days. You would always let me borrow your hoodie. You're so good like that. I have such a fun time hanging out with you. You always make me laugh when I'm sad. You always give me advice. And I have to say, you kept me out of trouble so many times. We have so many memories together. I want to tell everyone about you. You're a sweet soul. so funny. And you always know how to make people laugh around you. Rest in peace, my beautiful friend. It's crazy that you are gone, but I promise I will finish the drawing you wanted me to do, the one with the lion and the flower for your tattoo. And Summer's sister posted, "I'll fight for you even when you're on the other side. I sure could use one of your long hugs right now." I want to bring in Natalie Whittingham Burell. She is a public defender and a legal commentator. So Natalie, uh the facts in this case are just so sad. I I just can't even imagine uh the family of Summer Rooney learning, you know, on New Year's Eve or New Year's morning that their loved one had been found murdered and she's being driven around in a vehicle. And Janette, it's really quite heartbreaking uh to see a case of this nature and the shocking reality that had the gentleman not been pulled over for maybe a DUI related incident, she might not have been found, her family might not have known what happened to her. It's absolutely heartbreaking. >> Yeah, it is really, really heartbreaking. And according to the probable cause statement, um you know, in Utah, he's not formally charged with murder right now. He's being held without bail on suspicion of murder. Uh we believe charges will come uh sometime soon, but it says that he did make a statement post Miranda talking about how it sounded like there had been an argument and that she had said that their relationship was was over essentially. And we know too that um sometimes that can be a very dangerous time for a woman to try to leave it. It's dangerous when women try to end relationships at times depending on their partner. >> Uh yes, statistically we do see that that is one of the highest rates of mortality in relationships that involve domestic violence when the woman is trying to leave or sadly enough when the woman is pregnant. Um, but also his uh post Miranda uh statement that he made certainly would be incriminating and give officers probable cause to charge him uh with homicide or assault that led to her homicide um in conjunction with the fact that she had visible injuries that the officers could see. He admitted, you know, to having an argument with her, which could be a motive to precipitate some type of physical assault. So Jake Johnson, according to police, makes these statements post Miranda. He's he's been told, you know, he's been read his rights. They believe he's under the influence of some type of alcohol or something. Um, you know, as a defense attorney, as a public defender, somebody who deals with these types of cases, I mean, what do you do with a case like this? I mean, he he's driving around with his girlfriend's dead body in the vehicle. Um, he's got trauma. He admits that she has suffered physical trauma. And I mean, it seems all very, very, very damning. I mean, if he hadn't been pulled over, maybe he would have placed her body somewhere. We we just don't know. >> Yes. Well, every state is different, but many states do recognize a defense of voluntary intoxication in the case of homicides. I'm not sure if they have that in this state, but it could certainly mitigate an intent. Um, so we still have to remember that law enforcement, the prosecution does have to prove that he caused her death and that he intended to cause her death. So, for example, if he became so intoxicated that he didn't realize what he was doing and didn't actually have the intent to kill her and accidentally killed her, that could lower it from, say, a first degree or seconddegree murder to a manslaughter, depending on your state. Um, in addition, as a defense attorney, I would be looking at that statement to see whether or not I can suppress it because even though he was read his Miranda warnings, he was intoxicated. that's the reason for him being pulled over and maybe it wasn't a voluntary and knowing waiver of his right to remain silent and his right to have an attorney. Th those are rarely won on those grounds, but it's worth fighting for. So, there are some strategies here for his defense council. >> And he is of course in custody right now. Um that will come later in the proceedings. You know, a motion to suppress, of course. Um, and it sounds like they believe they had probable cause to pull him over as well or at least to approach him. Um, so, you know, those are all things that will obviously come down the road. Um, but just the you're an attorney and that's going to be of course something you do. You're going to try to get the statement thrown out. Um, but what do you do as far as um challenging possibly the traffic stop itself um or the approach? I guess maybe hopefully there's maybe some body camera footage or something like that. There's going to be surveillance footage maybe from the gas station, the 7-Eleven. Um I guess you could try to challenge that as well, >> right? Because as you're pointing to Anginette, police don't have the right to just randomly pull people over, you know, unless we're talking about maybe like a DUI checkpoint or something in certain places. And so if the body worn camera or dash camera, usually dash camera before the stop um or surrounding surveillance um doesn't um show a reasonable articulable suspicion that he is driving under the influence. Say the car is driving straight, it's not swerving, um he doesn't appear to be speeding or anything like that. If there was no reason for the initial stop, then you could challenge them even finding her body inside the car if they did not have a right to stop him. But it sounds like because he was so verbose and willing to speak to law enforcement and the surrounding circumstances, there must have been something to give them some type of suspicion that he was driving under the influence. And it's not a very high bar to cross. It's one of the lowest standards that we have in court. Yeah, probably cause very a very very uh low standard. Um, you know, it sounds like they discovered Summer's body rather quickly. We don't know when this argument took place. I mean, we can only maybe assume that it took place sometime on New Year's Eve. Um, you know, this happened, this traffic stop just after midnight. So, as far as determining her cause of death and things like that, um, I mean, it's not like she was reported missing or anything like that, this is going to be something that they can probably determine quite quickly through autopsy and things of that nature. Uh, exactly. And because they're seeing signs of injury, I'm I'm just speculating here. They would normally say for gunshots, gunshot wounds, um, sharp force trauma, they would say apparent stab wounds. Normally, that's what they would say to the media. But because they're saying signs of injury, it's potentially blunt force trauma, which would necessitate a um autopsy to see whether or not that was the cause of death. Um, and if it is blunt force trauma, that would be more um consistent with a domestic violence, intimate partner violence situation, uh, where someone is beaten and then they die as a result of it. >> Yeah. And I think you're probably right on target there because there were some posts on Facebook that alluded to him being so much larger than she was. uh some family friends had said that he was such a big guy and twice her size and it made reference to her possibly being beaten. So, it's just a really tragic case. >> Extremely sad and um you know, heart-wrenching because it's really not something that you can guard against. It it depends on the partner that is the more powerful partner to be respectful and well and not harm their partner because seems like she did the right thing here. She's trying to leave the relationship, right? She's not staying for abuse and he won't allow her to leave allegedly according to the facts we've heard so far. So, that is extremely sad and probably very um heart-wrenching for the parents and the family members. It's absolutely tragic and our hearts uh go out to this family of Summer Rooney. Natalie Woodingham Brell, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it as always. >> Thank you so much, Anette. Have a good one. >> You too. >> This car was driving down a street in a uh drug area. >> I got behind him. He's doing about 50 to 55. You have your driver's license on you? >> Huh? >> No, sir. >> Where is your driver's license? >> I don't have one. >> Okay. Do me a favor. Turn the turn the uh turn the radio off. Is your license suspended or you don't have one? >> Yes. >> Huh? >> Yes. >> What's your license suspended for? >> Driving. >> Okay. Can you do me a favor? Turn your car off. Take the keys out for me. >> Turn the car off. >> Take the keys out. Turn the car off. Take the keys out now. >> Why? >> Step on my 94. >> Tour. He's running. Uh down a dead end coming back at me now. 23 >> 980 just tried to hit me. He's going to be going south on Brian back towards Velvet here. He's signal forward. He's bailing just west of skis. Hands up IN THE AIR NOW. Just 14. And the driver's in the car. The passenger bailed. HANDS IN THE AIR NOW. DO NOT MOVE. Do you understand me? Don't reach YOUR HAND IN YOUR POCKET. TAKE YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR POCKET NOW. Reach your left hand over here. Get out. Left hand over here. Reach your left hand over here. >> Get out the car. >> Reach your left hand over here. >> I get out. Trust me. >> Get over this way. >> Yes, sir. >> Over this way. >> Yes, sir. >> I ain't got nothing, man. I don't have nothing. >> Get on the ground. Get on the ground. Put your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> All right. Get the other one. >> Roll up. >> To your chest. >> Stand up. >> 1 2 3. Go. >> Cuz you don't have a driver's license. You have any warrants or anything? >> No. >> I don't have nothing, bro. >> I don't have seat in the car. >> Seat. >> Have a seat in the car. Yes, sir. I don't have a damn thing. >> Have a seat in the car, >> man. >> Sit tight for a second. >> Come over here. >> What's your name? >> Jennifer. >> Jennifer? What's his name? >> I have no honest to God. I have no idea. >> How did you get into his car? >> I wasn't in his car. >> You were sitting in the passenger seat of his car. >> Ass feet. No, I wasn't. Come >> on here real quick. There's nothing in there. I don't even >> Did you know there was a knife underneath the seat? >> I was not in that car, man. I'm on probation. Why would I be in a Somebody >> What are you on probation for? >> For domestic when I split my kid's dad's head open. >> I'll see you in there, Keith. >> Whoa. Hold on. >> I love you. >> Hold on. >> I just put me in the car. >> Hold on. You don't know who he is, but you know his name. You weren't in the car with, but you know his name. >> It's amazing that somebody you don't know, you know his name. When you're walking by him, you call him out by name. How do you know him? >> He helped my mother raise me and my brother and sister. >> So, you've known him your whole life? >> My whole life. >> What were you guys doing today? >> He we I had just got him out of the bar, the meeting place. >> Okay. >> I had just got him out of there and was trying to talk him into letting me drive. I I have a learner's permit. >> He was trying >> No, [snorts] I was trying to talk him into letting me drive. >> Oh, okay. >> He's drunk. >> Okay. >> And he had powder on him. That's That's cocaine. >> Where was the powder cocaine on? >> He had it in his hand. >> Do you know where it is now? >> He put his hand and he put the car in gear when we originally stopped. He had it in his hand on top of the gear shift. That way you guys couldn't see it. >> Do you know what he did with it? >> No. >> I think he threw it out the window, but I'm not sure. >> Okay, come sit in the car real quick. >> She's telling me a lot of things. >> It's nothing that car. She's saying that you had some cocaine in your hand that you might have thrown out the window. In your hand that you might have thrown out the window. >> I have nothing. >> I have nothing. I swear to God. >> So why were you running? >> Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. >> I'm not lying to you. If you would have been honest and at least stay there, you probably would have been on your way. >> I had another deputy go back to the area where I stopped him. He was able to find a pill bottle in the middle of the road that is completely full of crack cocaine. You don't street race at all? >> No, ma'am. >> It's a criminal citation. I had the option to arrest you tonight. We're up here clearing off another traffic stop and a vehicle went past us, made a Uturn in the median, spoiling its tires and um blew up some smoke. So, we're going to try to chase it down. 2263 1050 >> 223 >> 1050 on Val Rico Road on a black Dodge Neon. >> Hey, how you doing? >> Good. I'm Deputy Coal. Do you have your insurance and registration with you? >> Um, this actually isn't my car. It's a friend of mine's car. >> Okay. Why don't you check in the glove box? I just wanted to make sure you were up here before I >> Okay, why don't you check in the glove box? >> Who's the vehicle belong to? >> My neighbor. >> What's his name? >> Juan. >> Juan what? Juan what? >> I don't know his last name to be honest with you. >> Where does he live at? >> Right there. Uh I live on Somerset's Drive. He lives on Somers Drive. >> Okay. Why don't you check for insurance in that vehicle? >> I really would not have done anything like that. This is my first time. >> What do you think you What do you think you pulled over for? Uh, probably speeding, >> maybe squealing your tires when you came around that corner when you made that U-turn on Highway 60. >> Oh, okay. I I know what you're talking about. >> Okay. >> I'm real sorry about that. I don't normally do that. Um, I don't see his insurance in here, man. >> Okay. Where you coming from, Adam? >> I just came from my friend's house. I really didn't want to do anything like this. >> All right. Sit down. I'm going >> to get stopped [clears throat] in his car. Would you believe he got a street check for racing on the highway in August of 2010? >> Well, that's what he was doing with the initial car when they turned the corner. Yeah. >> And took off. >> So, you can sign him for that if you want. >> You're just going to do reckless driving on him and give him a warning on some of the other stuff and incorporate all his moving violations into one criminal charge. >> Right. I'm going to go finish it. >> Adam. All right. Here's your information back. You said this is your friend's vehicle. Yes. Do you think he's going to be mad that you're ragging on it and spinning the tires and speeding and racing? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Yeah. Do you have a vehicle like this? >> I have a Honda Civic. >> That's why he didn't want me driving tonight cuz mine is kind of not totally up to date. >> What's that mean? >> I have no exhaust on mine. That's why I got stopped not that long ago. >> You race a lot? >> No, I do not. >> You don't street race at all? >> No, ma'am. >> Have you ever street raced? >> No, ma'am. I got in trouble for motorcycles, for wheelies, and stupid stuff on the street. So, you never got in trouble maybe back in August of last year for street racing. >> Is that a different Adam? >> No, no, no. I got stopped at 36 and a friend of mine were side by side and we >> You got a citation for street racing. >> Citation for street racing. I don't remember that one. I might have. I'm not going to lie. I might have, but I don't remember. >> It wasn't that long ago. Okay, listen. I wrote you a citation for reckless driving. I'm cutting you a break here. I could have written you a citation for your exhaust, for spinning your tires, for racing, for cutting in and out of the vehicles. >> I understand. Okay. >> All right. Sign here on the X. You have 10 days. It's a criminal citation. Okay. You got 10 days. Do you know where the Plate Courthouse is? >> Say courthouse, ma'am. How much is a ticket? >> It's not. It's a criminal citation. I had the option to arrest you tonight. >> Okay. I'm not going to. I'm just going to issue a citation. sign right here above my name. >> Lincoln. >> Sorry, I'm nervous. This ain't even my car and I'm >> Well, how do you think he's gonna feel knowing that you're racing his vehicle? >> He's going to be mad. >> Yeah. You think you're ever going to drive his vehicle again? >> Probably not. >> Probably not. >> And I did a whole bunch of work to this car. >> There you go. Drive safely. >> Thank you. >> No racing. No spinning your tires. >> Promise. >> Go easy on it. Go home. >> I will. Thank you. You just made a bunch of people happy on state road 60 cuz they all saw him driving like that. Hopefully they learn a lesson so I won't do that again. >> Do you know of anything that we would have found in the car? What do you use the needles for? >> Just shoot up. >> What do you shoot up? >> Okay. Sometimes the white female like a pink shirt on. Hey, backseat passenger is reaching all over the place. >> Said the backseat passenger is uh is reaching all over the place always trying to stop the vehicle. >> Southbound entrance ramp. Southbound entrance ramp. >> Okay. Do you have a driver's license? >> Yes. >> You have a valid driver's license? You have anything with any kind of ID? >> Uh, no. I didn't bring I know my number, though. >> Let me ask you something. When I put the lights on way back there, why did you keep driving all the way up here? I honest to God, >> there were several places you could have pulled over. You didn't see them. You didn't hear the siren? >> No, I didn't know. No, I didn't. I honest to God. I didn't I didn't see it till he said there's a cat behind us. >> Is there anything in there in your back there? >> I just went to the doctor and all my prescriptions are in my >> Can I search it real quick? There's nothing >> nothing that ain't supposed to be. >> I tried to pull her over back there uh a few blocks away. I put the lights on her. I even hit the siren. It took her quite a ways to uh stop. They were all looking behind them looking at the lights. The rear seat passenger was reaching around a lot. When people are reaching around in a vehicle like that, turn around looking at see the uh cops are behind them. They're usually trying to hide something or conceal something. >> Hey, shoot it up. >> Yeah. What they're doing is they're crushing down pills. >> Yeah. >> Heating it up, melting it. They'll melt these uh their pills down, get them with the um the needles and inject them. I also found needles in in uh this bag right here in this pocket. Um >> bop >> violation operation. What were you on operation for? >> Um possession. >> Possession of what? >> Of control substance without prescription. >> What kind of control substance? >> It was a Xanax. >> Xanax. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Are you going to leave your meds with Uncle Bob? >> Um I will. Okay. I'll let you. You have anything in your shoes or anything? >> No. Step back here. >> She's going to get hooked. I'mma hook her right now. She's got a um suspended license. So, >> okay. Okay. And he's going for a 180. Right. >> Right. And the white pill is methodone. That was found in his wallet. >> Stand up for me. Turn around. Put your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands together like >> officer. I swear those >> Put your hands. Put your hands together. >> No. Turn them around. There you go. Thank you. >> Right now, you're under arrest for driving with suspended license. There was some pills loose in your wallet and in your hat. >> Do you have a prescription for either of those? >> Yes. >> Which one? >> The oxycodone. >> Oxycodone. Where was that at? >> Where is it? Yeah, >> it's in my Actually, the bottle's in my hat in the front seat right there. >> Okay. >> I remember I told you the other bottle was sitting next to me in the seat. >> Okay. Is it It's loose in here. >> The bottle. That bottle right there. The whole bottle. >> What about What about those in there? >> Yeah, that is one of those. The blue one is one of those. And the other one, >> no, I don't have a prescription for. >> No. >> No. >> What were you planning on doing with it? >> I was going to eat it or something. I don't I don't I don't remember even having it. I put in my wallet probably a month ago. I don't even know. >> When the deputy pulled behind you or >> No, no, it's been there for like so long I forgot about it. >> No, I'm saying when you were going to eat it. >> You were thinking about eating it when >> I was going to eat it and uh it just I I don't know. I don't really remember. No, >> there were some things that were found in the car. Um, >> do you know of anything that would that we would have found in the car? >> That would be yours. >> What? >> The needles. >> The needles. What do you use the needles for? >> To shoot up. >> To shoot up. What do you shoot up? >> Pills. >> Pills. Anything else? >> Cocaine. Sometimes. >> Cocaine. Okay. >> Sometimes. Debie Smith spoke with the female and she admitted that she uh also shoots up cocaine. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to test the residue on this spoon because there's a white powdery residue on here also. We're going to see if it tests positive for cocaine. If it turns blue, then that's going to be positive for cocaine. So, it's going to be a positive hit for cocaine. She's also going to be charged with that. >> People come from all over to get these kind of prescription medication pills and it's just becoming a very, very, very bad epidemic. They're very addictive. >> I kicked her out cuz she went out like a little crackhead out. >> He assaulted me because he got jealous because I almost stay night his back. >> I AIN'T GOING TO JAIL. GET [screaming] OFF. We're being dispatched to a uh domestic disturbance where apparently the male half um allegedly choked the female female half. The male half may be intoxicated and on drugs and maybe suicidal. >> All right, I got someone inside making a ruckus. >> Hey, you don't listen too well, do you? >> Hey, Chief. What's going on? >> My dad just beat my ass. My ass. >> Relax. Relax. Dad, just be Hey, Chief. Have a seat. Have a seat. Sit down, man. Sit down. >> Hey, get that little [ __ ] out of here, man. Hey, get her out. >> Hold on. Hold on. >> Get her out. All you want was that little [ __ ] Keep off smoking that crack. >> KEEP ON SMOKING THAT CRACK, [ __ ] >> All right. Relax. Relax, man. >> Have a seat, man. You need an ambulance? >> No, I don't need no ambulance. I need y'all to leave me alone. I need to go to sleep, man. My dad has beat my ass. >> All right. Well, what what happens? We're going to figure out what what's going on with the uh the girl over there. little argument her I kicked her out cuz she wanted like a little crackhead up. She go get more no more dope. So she wanted to go home. >> All right. >> So I was like, "All right, go home." I was like, "Would it be like that?" Like we supposed to be lovers and friends. >> You guys live together? >> No, we just we weren't friends. >> Yeah, I know. >> That little [ __ ] >> All right. >> Well, come on. Come on out here, man. We're going >> I ain't going to jail, man. >> I'm not saying you're going to jail. I'm just figuring out >> sleep. I just spent three and a half years in prison. I don't care what y'all do, man. All right. >> I ain't going to jail. >> Well, you need to relax a little bit until we get >> Man, I ain't going to jail, man. I just want to go. >> I'm not saying you're going to sleep. All right. We're going to You're going to come out to my car until we figure this out. All right. Come on. >> Hey, don't grab that. >> Go stand near that car. >> Just relax. All right. >> Tell me what happened. >> We were in the house. We were fine. We were making love and everything. Okay. >> She wanted more dope. I could I couldn't get her more dope, you know? So, she starts What kind of dope? Like crack. >> Like crack. So, I was like, you know what I'm saying? I was like, "You're supposed to be my friend." >> Only thing I did was I pushed you out the door. I said, "Go." And that was it. >> You was thinking about that earlier. >> Hey. Hey. >> And push up. You need to back up. All right. You need to You need to back up. Go at the end of that car and stand right there. Go over the end of the car and stand there. >> Stop talking, man. >> You stand right there. >> A little I ain't about that. >> Why don't you tell me what happened? What's your name? >> Ashley. Okay. I just got a mad crush on me. We've been friends since 14 years old. He assaulted me because he got jealous because I don't want to stay night in his bed. >> I don't want to stay night with him. >> I got to be a man. >> You know what I'm saying? We've been best friends for years. He gets on them pills. He gets drunk. He starts doing his He gets all psycho. >> You know what I'm saying? Look what he did in my Do you see anything? >> Where did he Where did he hit you? >> He He tried to choke the out of me. >> Tried to choke you. All right. >> He punched me right here, here, here, here. Okay. All right. Talk. >> All right. Just relax. All right. >> He has a lot of problems. They're getting worse and worse. It got out of hand. I told you I got hurt. >> How How did it How did it get out of hand? Start from the beginning. You and him are here. She comes over. >> Okay. >> For a couple days. They've been smoking. They drank. They screwed up. Everything's been fine to >> But it only goes on a couple days and then it explodes and they get in a big fight. So, I got her out of the house and she didn't get hurt and then the kid started on me and I couldn't get the kid off of me. >> Okay. All right. And you and him are He's your He's your son and you live together. >> That's correct. >> Okay. >> You ripped your shirt due to the uh >> with him? Yeah. >> With him. All right. You have any injuries? >> No. >> Do you need an ambulance or anything? >> All right. Just relax. Stay at here. Don't talk to her. I'm going to go talk to your son. >> Hey, Joseph. You're getting placed under arrest for domestic violence. >> I'm not going to give you no trouble, please. I got I got problem. >> You got your knee on my ass, bro. Come on. Please. >> Listen. Listen. Just put your hand. >> I'm going to, man. Get your knee out my ass, man. >> As soon as you got your hand back there, you're all set. Relax. >> All right. >> Why y'all locking me up? I ain't do nothing, man. These people >> Stop. Stop it. Get off. >> Let go. Let go. >> Get off. That hurt. That hurt, man. That hurt. >> Stop. Stop hurt. I ain't GOING TO JAIL. I'M GONNA GET OFF. >> YOU'RE DRAGGING MY FEET AND THEY'RE BLEEDING. >> OKAY. >> All right. >> All right. Just throw me in this car. I'm going to sit in the car. >> Sit down. >> Why you got to hold me, man? Get your feet in. >> I am. >> Obviously. Uh the son's going to jail. Dad understands the circumstances. And uh the girlfriend's going home, too. >> If anyone dares try to test my mental confidence, I will in I will eviscerate every single person with my intelligence right now. Eric Conover is known online for his viral real estate content, but right now he's getting the wrong kind of attention. Police in New Hampshire say the YouTube star hit an officer with his car and kept going, [music] leading law enforcement on a wild chase. But the YouTuber said in court, "The police have got the wrong guy." We're taking a look at the charges he faces and what he has to say about them. Welcome to Sidebar, [music] presented by Law and Crime. I'm Jesse Weber. Eric [music] Conover, also known as Eric Vancover, has nearly three million followers on YouTube with many of his videos garnering almost a million views. And one of his most popular videos, in case you don't know who he is, features him doing a workout with actor Chris Hemsworth. Now, the about section of Connover's channel reads, "Merging architecture, sacred geometry, and AI consciousness evolution. This channel explores homes built for energetic residents and human expansion. Here's the problem. The popular vlogger, aspiring actor, he is now in some very hot water in New Hampshire because that is where Conover is accused of allegedly trying to kill a police officer. Now, Conover said during his first court hearing last weekend that this was all a quote massive misunderstanding. And we'll get into that a little bit more, but I am joined right now by trial attorney Adante Pointer. Uh Dante, so good to see you. Thanks so much for coming here on Sidebar. So right off the bat, this is a guy who definitely has clout online. He has followers. People will know who he is. But according to WUR during his first court appearance, he apparently even claimed that I'm a public figure, that he's got these millions of subscribers, and that this was some sort of sting against him. Why make a statement like that, Adante? Because I wonder if that's going to hurt him in the long run. Well, you know, I can see him at this point grasping for straws, as it will, to try to win the court of to try to win in the court of public opinion. And when you see these people who have big followings online, often time when they find themselves in high water, they then claim, well, this is some type of conspiracy against me. >> Let me ask you a question. Big status like this, big follower. We talk about this with celebrities. Not he's not quite a celebrity, but he he's well known online. Is that a factor? His status online, is that a factor that could come into this case at all? You go all the way down. Let's say this goes to a trial. Could that be used by the prosecution? Is it something that would only come in if he were to take the stand, for example? You know, even jury selection, you have to wonder if people will know who he is and if that'll affect him. Talk to us about his status, how that could affect the case in any way. his status certainly can affect the case in a number of different ways from start to finish. And what I mean by that is in terms of the way in which it's investigated and looking at his prior statements that he may have made during his podcast or online. If there's something that the prosecution deems to be incriminating as relates to the way in which he relates to police or doesn't like police or his feeling that he may be above the law, that certainly is something that the prosecution can draw on. And we've seen them do that with cases with celebrities who are like rappers and things like that. They take their prior statements or their art and use it against them. Or you can even see it, for example, in jury selection. It could take a very long time, if you will, to find 12 jurors who are not biased or who are not so familiar with him to where they think that they cannot sit in judgment of him and only judge him based upon the evidence in the court of law versus what they understand about him from his podcast. And going further, there sure there's going to be some sparring between the attorneys, the prosecution, and the defense as it relates to what type of evidence actually comes into the trial as it relates to statements he's made online andor the celebrity of who he is. So, this could be one of these cases where everyone has to buckle up. And we've seen that where courouses are besieged by these influencers followers and jurors and court staff feel like they're intimidated by the presence of the public and their followers. And so, uh, this could be something that really permeates the trial and can potentially affect its outcome. >> I mean, I always ask the celebrity question because I was in that courtroom every day for Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and you see the amounts of supporters that were there for him in the courtroom. Uh, you know, I heard them making comments when people were testifying. Different situation, but I always am fascinated by that. So, now let me get into, if everybody's wondering, what exactly is he accused of doing? What's happening here? Well, now I want to get into what is being reported about Conover's alleged actions over the weekend. So, according to reporting from the Conway Daily, Conover was driving in Bartlett, New Hampshire on Saturday, and a Bartlett police officer who was apparently dealing with another traffic stop allegedly estimated visually that Conover was going between 55 and 60 m an hour in a 35 mph zone. According to testimony in court, Connover's first hearing. During this first hearing, the officer Cameron EMTT apparently chased after this Jeep and managed to get Conover to stop. So, police sergeant Brian Mafet told the judge what allegedly happened next. Quote, "While Officer EMTT exited his vehicle, he moved around to the rear of his cruiser, and you, Mr. Conover, then backed his vehicle rapidly, pointed it directly at Officer EMTT, and accelerated at him, striking him at a reasonably high rate of speed." So, according to the sergeant, the officer actually was on the hood of this car and then was thrown in the air, thrown 20 to 40 feet away. Apparently, he had to go to the hospital. Now, fortunately, his injuries were not life-threatening, and he's since been released, but quite the scene. Now, meantime, Conover allegedly took off, according to WUR, going another 28 miles before other officers were able to stop him. Apparently, multiple agencies were called in to help this situation, and the New Hampshire State Police apparently had to set up spike strips to stop him. This is according to reporting from Conway Daily. So, right now, he's charged with attempted murder, firstdegree assault against a police officer, seconddegree assault, reckless conduct with a deadly weapon, disobeying an officer, and reckless driving. So, Dante, they hit him with so many different charges here. Talk to me about attempted murder. Is attempted murder hard to prove here? Well, if the deputy's recount of what took place stands and isn't controverted by some other evidence or testimony, for example, like body cam or dash cam from the car, then yes, it's not going to be terribly hard for them to get an attempted murder charge. Look, if this person could clearly see that the officer is standing in front of the car, sees officer clinging to the hood, accelerates at him at they say a reasonable rate of speed, well clearly it must have been fast enough to when he hit the brakes or swerved that the officer went 20 ft according to what the fellow officer said. That means that car was going at an extremely high rate of speed in my opinion based upon what I've seen in other incidents. And that in and of itself shows a reckless disregard and an idea that you're intentionally speeding at an officer, putting his life in danger, and then you even sent him to the hospital for those injuries. So, I think that'll be a pretty good case for the prosecution, and it'll be a tougher case for the defendant to try to wiggle his way out of. >> I want to ask you about the different charges that he's facing. attempted murder, right? Could top charge may be tough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. But then, do you have all of these other alleged crimes that it would be easier for a jury to convict him on, let's say, firstderee assault against the police officer or second degree assault? In other words, if we can't convince a jury of the murder charge or the attempted murder charge, these are crimes that are catchalls. They're lesser included. They're easier to prove. Is that why you see so many different charges levied against him right now? >> You often see prosecutors bring a number of different charges starting with the most extreme or the most severe as you mentioned like in this case an attempted murder. But they also have what you termed and what I understand it to be as an attorney lesser included meaning charges that are a part or lead up to an attempted murder but don't require the same level of evidence or of certainty. And so it's much easier charge for a prosecutor to prove than the big enchilada here, which is attempted murder. So it allows a jury, if they aren't willing to go to the extreme of saying, "Hey, we think that he intended to try to kill this officer." A jury can then rest their verdict of saying, "Well, even though we don't think he tried to kill the officer, he still acted in a way to assault or batter the officer, and they'll still carry substantial amounts of jail time. Not as much as attempted murder, but it's still looking at a prison sentence." I thought this was interesting. The sergeant also testified in court. Quote, "We're very fortunate that an amateur drone operator was in the air when he saw the interaction and was able to capture it on video." So, Adante, whether it's drone footage or dash cam footage or body cam, that's got to be a critical piece of evidence. And that can come in, right? That can come in as a piece of evidence. The drone footage. The drone footage is going to be a critical piece of evidence in this case and perhaps at trial if it should go that far because video evidence, be it from a body cam, be it from a dash cam, or be it from a drone of a third party who wasn't a part of what was taking place, it doesn't lie. Meaning, it doesn't have a bias. It's not for the police. It doesn't have a bias against our influencer. Instead, it's just going to show you what took place. It doesn't mean that there won't be a heavy and substantial debate as it relates to the accuracy of the footage and from its viewpoint, what it showed and what it didn't show, but that'll be up for the attorneys to spar about. But that will still nevertheless be a critical item of evidence in this case. >> And how it was handled, how it came into evidence. That's always a critical point for defense attorneys, right? How was it, you know, authenticated properly, was it h mishandled, was it altered in any way? That those are conversations that come up, right? >> Sure. In a criminal case, when you have uh footage or any type of physical evidence, you're going to see the defense attorney pounce at any opportunity they have to try to undermine the credibility of that evidence, be it the chain of custody, how do they obtain it, how do they preserve it, and how has it been altered in any way in terms of slowing it up, speeding it up, or magnifying it. So, you know, I expect that to be ripe grounds for a lot of challenges from the defense attorney. >> Talking about defense, this is where things take a turn. So during his arraignment, Conover apparently told the judge that the police reports about the incident were falsified, that they're not real, that they're not accurate. So he tried to tell the judge that he was not the Eric Conover they were looking for because he was from New York City while the Eric Conover that they were hunting was from Absacon, New Jersey. So according to his Wikipedia page, Conover was born and raised in Absacon. Now, Dante, first thing I thought was very my cousin Vinnie, right? Two different men, same car, same time. But I mean, look, I'm just getting to this case the same way you are. I'm looking at it the same way. I'm thrown into it. That's an interesting defense. I'm curious how they'll be a he'll be able to show that if that's the way he and his attorney ultimately move forward with it. Yeah, it appears to me when I heard that comment, but yet we can just simply do a Wikipedia search and see that he was spent some time in the city that he is now trying to disavow as identifying him. It appeared to be the type of comments of someone who is off their rocker, perhaps is not in the best mental state. uh it didn't appear like he gave that statement with the advice and consent of his attorney because any attorney worth their salt would have hushed their client up and said you're not going to say anything right now because you're not going to go against your fifth amendment rights of against selfinccrimination. So I I don't think that was what the advice of council and frankly the question is going to be can they admit that to show that he is uh as an indication of guilt in terms of him trying to disavow himself from something that's easily proven. So that could become a problem for him later on in the case. >> Something you said very critical about mental health. So Conover was apparently very vocal during his arraignment uh basically saying that New Hampshire state troopers quote brutalized him and that he was being treated quote like an animal in jail. And then there's this >> if anyone dares try to test my mental confidence I will in I will eviscerate every single person with my intelligence right now. And that's not being egotistical. Okay, Dante, that's quite the statement. Um, mental health issue at play. Mental health, mental health defense possibly at play. That's an ill-advised statement in my opinion. One that probably was not given with the advice and consent of his attorney and one that may actually play towards helping him even though if he might fight it to show look right now he has some competency issues. he's going through a mental health crisis and this is exhibit A of that in terms of this statement. It's pretty striden and frankly if his attorney thinks that he is suffering from some type of mental defect, it's incumbent upon that attorney and probably has a duty under the law to make sure that that's evaluated and investigated because that could aid in his defense for these charges. Going back to these charges and going back to a jury, if you have a uh victim who is a member of law enforcement and you have the testimony of law enforcement, in your sense, your experience, do you feel that juries will give more deference to the officers in this kind of case, their testimony, their observations? U particularly, let's say the victim, the alleged victim in this case testifies. Um talk to us about that. >> Yeah, I've tried many cases. I've had cases wherein police claim to be a victim or police are witnesses in those cases. And oftentimes we give an admonition or an instruction to the jury as relates to how to evaluate police testimony. You're not to give an officer more credibility or to place more weight on their testimony simply because they're a police officer. The reason why those instructions are often given to the jury because almost as a natural reflex to watching and hearing and listening to an officer on the stand, jurors give officer testimony a lot of weight. And it's a hard road to climb for a defense attorney when they're challenging an officer's testimony. You have to have something that's objectively can be verified to show that the officer was lying or kind of shading the truth. And without that type of objective evidence, juries often time admit and accept an officer's testimony with very little scrutiny. >> Could the officer sue Conover for his injuries? I mean, anybody can sue anybody for anything, but just because if it's a viable lawsuit if he does decide to take legal action against Conover, what would you expect to see? Because at the time of this recording, I wasn't able to see any pending lawsuit. But do you think that that is a realistic possibility here? Especially, by the way, I don't know how much he'd be making on social media, but you know, 3 million subscribers, million views, you could be making some significant money, and not sure what Conover does uh for the rest of his time, but you have to wonder whether or not a lawsuit could be on the horizon. >> I certainly expect uh the police officer victim here to evaluate all his legal options to figure out if he could bring a lawsuit against Conover for his injuries and what took place. Conver has a substantial social media following. you'd expect that he's being paid pretty handsomely for his YouTube following. And with that being said, the officer would and could be looking at him to compensate him for the injuries he sustained. Of course, most states have workers compensation laws. And so, it may be a situation where the officer is only able to recover or to be paid and compensated for his injuries through the state. However, if there is a legal option for the officer to bring a lawsuit against Conover for the injuries sustained, expect that to happen, especially if there's a conviction here. >> It's a good point. By the way, this apparently based on the reporting wasn't Mr. Conver's first runin with police this month. No, just a few days before this incident where he allegedly tried to run over an officer, Conover was arrested for DWI. And it appears he was released after that arrest because he allegedly posted a photo on his Instagram page showing bruises on his wrist with a caption that said, "Ouch, cuffed up." Didn't provide any other details, but in court, Conover denied that he was driving drunk, saying that he has been sober for more than a thousand days, but he's still facing that DWI charge. Dante, that's a different element to this story. How do you think it affects the current charges he's facing with respect to the officer? I mean, will it is it two separate cases? it won't have an effect >> at this point. The previous case for DWI is just a charge. He hasn't been convicted. Although the judge can take that into consideration when determining whether or not to set bail or to allow him to once again go free on his own recgnissance. However, as it relates to the criminal prosecution, the DA could look to that as more evidence of the fact that this is a person who was unhinged or unable to control himself andor may have been under the influence of alcohol or drugs in the previous incident and in the current incident. Of course, the attorneys are going to spar over that whether or not that evidence or that charge should be excluded from the charge of running over or attempting to run over this police officer. So, that's going to be hotly contested during the course of this prosecution. And if by chance the judge allows that evidence in as relates to the prior DWI, that may be something that weighs heavily on the jury's mind if this case should get that far. >> And by the way, just we don't have evidence of this, but just want to clear any, you know, moment of doubt here. If for assumption sake, he was intoxicated when this happened and let's say he allegedly do did do this. I know intoxication, voluntary intoxication is not a defense. However, is it an element that could mitigate the attempted murder charge um in any way? I mean, again, just for assumption sake, we don't know the circumstances all this. I'm not saying he was intoxicated, but I just want to theorize this for a second. If he was intoxicated, could that mitigate it, reduce it from an attempted murder charge to, you know, just focus on the assault charges? You tell me. The idea that he may have potentially been intoxicated during this incident would weigh in in terms of how the prosecution wants to proceed. And I don't think it necessarily weighs in when it gets if it should get to a jury trial because voluntary intoxication doesn't negate the activity or the conduct that he engaged in. However, when it comes down to plea deal negotiations, a prosecutor could certainly take that into consideration in terms of what type of deal is reached between the defendant and the prosecution because they could say that's a mitigating circumstance. Essentially, Convoy doesn't behave in this manner on most occasions, but he's going through a mental health crisis. he may have been under the influence of something and that is something that they can take into consideration as it relates to reaching a deal for a lesser included charge like the battery or assault on an officer versus the attempted murder charge as it currently stands. >> I I appreciate that. That's an interesting perspective about that. All right. Well, look, for now, Mr. Conover is being held on preventative detention. He's due back in New Hampshire court next week for a probable cause hearing basically to see is there enough evidence to move this case forward. So, interesting development. Dante Pointer, thanks so much for coming back here on sidebar. Appreciate it. Good seeing you. >> Birth control pills or something for my you know can't get pregnant for me. >> Yeah, I got a lot of holes in my house right now. [music] 016140. Hold down your windows. Hold down your back window, please. Hold down your back window. Thank you. How you doing, man? Y'all doing good? You got your license on you, man? Damn, that [ __ ] nice, dude. Y'all doing good today? Who's the um red should owner of this car, man? You are okay. You got your ID on you, man? Y'all doing all right today? So, the reason I pull yours is cuz your tag. Okay. 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Body camera video shows South Carolina police take the wrong man into custody after mistaking his license plate for that of a suspects. Now he's suing the city for civil assault. He was leaving a Burger King when he was mistaken for someone who was involved in a high-speed chase by the Marian Police Department and was pulled over um and subsequently ordered out of his vehicle onto the ground at gunpoint by an officer with the police department and handcuffed um still at gunpoint obviously giving him um a really traumatic experience. I didn't >> vis >> this ain't even him, >> but they got almost the identical tag. >> He was chasing a black Dodge Challenger >> look just like this. >> You good? The incident happened on November 20th, 2022 in Marian, South Carolina. David Wiggins says he was on the way home from Burger King when he was pulled over by police and placed IN HANDCUFFS. >> HANDS OUT THE WINDOW. BOTH HANDS. YOU GOT ANYBODY IN THERE with you? >> Anybody with you? Take your right hand. Open the door. I'm exiting out the vehicle. >> On the ground. On the ground. >> On the ground. >> Body camera video shows officers pointing their guns at Wiggins, who continues to say he didn't run from police. >> Did I Did you just run from me, sir? Okay. >> All right. Put your hand back. >> No. >> Can I ask you? >> Run for me. >> All right. Stay right here. >> Give me that tag. >> 2016 Dodge Challenger last name. It's not a mark. It's clear. I was going home. I did not want. I swear. >> After realizing they pulled over the wrong person, the responding officer apologizes to Wiggins >> right here. You're good. That scare you. >> Look, I'm sorry. You got almost the same tag, same car. He must have passed you going through and you turned off this one. >> Yeah, it must have happened. We had air coming through. >> Yeah. You good? >> All right. You have a good one. Okay. I'm sorry about that. >> But Wiggins's attorney, Marvin Pendarvis, says that apology isn't enough. >> At the end of the day, you know, Mr. Wiggins for 3 minutes for 180 seconds. He was in handcuffs on the ground face down with a gun drawn to him with multiple officers around him. He doesn't know ex and he didn't do anything wrong. He was flabbergasted by the fact that he was stopped to begin with. >> Pendarvis tells Lawn Crime Network the traffic stop traumatized Wiggins. >> He questioned the officers as to why he was being stopped and they insinuated until backup got there, they insinuated that he was running from them. He's like, I'm I didn't run. I didn't do anything. What did I do? And so being on the ground for that long, he didn't know if the next breath that he took was going to be his last. And so it it really really traumatized him. He's been in therapy since then, dealing with the the effects that this has had on his psyche and his overall being and and and his interaction with law enforcement. To be frank, >> he says Wiggins waited months to file suit against the city to make sure his team collected all the information they needed. >> It happened in November. We took this long to file the lawsuit because we wanted to do our due diligence, something that was not afforded to Mr. Wiggins when the officer stopped him prematurely. And so, we wanted to to investigate, get the video, talk with people in the community, kind of get a sense of what the experiences have been like for motorists and people um similarly situated. >> Now, they're alleging civil assault, battery, negligence, and false imprisonment during that incident. Well, the reason why we filed the lawsuit because there has to be some measure of an accountability. Uh, while there was an apology, Mr. Wiggins and his family did have a meeting with the police chief and they did acknowledge that he should not have been stopped and what happened to him was wrong. Um, but they stopped short of calling for an investigation into it. Um, we would have liked them to turn the matter over to the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, which is the state agency that investigates police departments for misconduct, and they did not, right? Um, they they opted not to, and we believe that a more thorough investigation was necessary here. >> Pendarvis says he hopes the lawsuit can shed light on the incident and prevent future situations like this in the future. You know, the part of it is one of bringing accountability to that to make sure that we, you know, if there's some things that are uncovered through the litigation part of this, then that could be brought to the public. Um but also to ensure that the police department uh ensures that if they they they improve their training to a point where they can recognize and identify people who are actual suspects and not stop and and really cause harm to those innocent motorists who are just trying to get home like Mr. Wiggins. And so there has to be some measure of accountability and the lawsuit is the first step in trying to bring that about for Mr. Wiggins, his family, and frankly the community of Marian. If you're going to stop a motorist, if you're going to take the step in stopping someone, pulling them over, and drawing a gun to order them out of their vehicle, you got to be sure that you have the right person. And so there's a due diligence that's on the part of the Marian Police Department to make sure that that officer is armed with correct information that she's using the information she's given to properly identify suspects that are in the actual commission of a crime or suspected to be committing a crime. Not an innocent motorist who's just trying to get some food and get home like Mr. Wiggins was on November 20th of 2022. In the end, Pendarvis says the situation could have ended a lot worse for Wiggins. >> If we don't do something now, then who knows if the next suspect is even able to leave the scene. You know, thankfully, Mr. Wiggins was very compliant. He stopped when he was bluelighted. He got out of the vehicle when he was ordered to. He did everything that we asked sus or we ask citizens to do when they're stopped by the police department to comply. He did all of that, but what if he had made what was determined to be a false move? Or what if the officer thought that he was armed or if he was a threat and there were shots fired? Then all of a sudden, we're talking about a much larger situation than we are now. And all because of a mistaken identity. At the end of the day, there are certain mistakes that cannot happen because the consequences can be deadly. And in this situation, it was inexcusable. It should not have happened. and we're bringing a lawsuit to bring about justice and accountability for Mr. W. >> Pendarves tells me he's been in contact with the city attorney who now has 30 days to reply to the lawsuit. He says this is the first step to bring justice to Wiggins and his family. >> You're failing to follow the law, sir. This is illegal. What >> this is illegal what you doing. You back the up. YOU BACK THE UP. I AIN'T BACKING THE UP. A routine traffic stop becomes anything but when an Arizona suspect goes nuts. Body cam video shows him attacking an officer who then has to pull his gun. The action is real and the stakes are high. This is Copcast. I'm Chris Stewart. All right, let's get into this story with this newly released body cam video that we have out of Arizona. All of this starts with what appears to be a routine traffic stop, but it escalates very quickly and eventually police say the suspect that you will see who is losing it eventually goes for the officer's holster. >> What is your problem? >> What is your problem? You're following me. >> You're the one that's going out yelling at me, doing whatever. I get yelling at you. I wasn't yelling at you. >> Speed limit down cactus. Do you know what I'm trying to get? >> You know what the speed limit is? >> 3541. >> It is 40. You were traveling 30. You need to be at 40. >> That lady right there was just going so slow. You could have had to go around her to get to me. Dude, you ain't going to >> around her and then [music] you stop again. What is your problem with? >> No, I did not stop. I did not stop. What do you mean? I did not stop. Why are you following me? >> Following me. >> YEAH, YOU ARE. >> GIVE ME YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE. Give me your driver. >> You pull me over for what is >> driving under the street? >> No, you did. >> Yes, I did. >> No, you I did. No, you didn't. I already told you >> this is illegal. >> No, it is not. >> Yes, it is. You ain't giving you >> driver's license. >> GET YOUR SUPERIOR HERE RIGHT NOW. >> FOR WHAT? >> Get your superior here. You >> give me your driver's license. >> Back the up. Get your superior. You get your superior. You get your superior. You >> for what? >> Because you're pulling me over with me for no reason. >> I already told you you >> sir. There is no need to yell. I need your driver's license. >> No. Go get a superior. HE'S TRACKED ME DOWN. SAT back there. Did you not just sit back there? Did you not just back there? >> I DON'T GIVE A WHAT HE HAS. YOU >> GOT A RECORD on your plate. Relax. >> I need to see his you please. [music] >> You get your superior. I know. >> You want him to magically pop up? He is on his way. I call for him. He's on his way. Your driver's license >> car. Not. >> Get the away from me. Illegal right now, kid. And you know you are. >> How is this illegal? >> Cracking me down, stalking me, you little turd. >> I saw you're driving me. >> Some tiny and everybody knows it. >> Just uh unhappy traffic stop. >> What the? You just passed a lady going 0 miles an hour. >> You need to provide your driver's license. >> You get your superior. >> Okay. You need to identify yourself with a driver's license. My name is Sam Coron. >> What is your birthday? >> What is your birthday? >> When's your birthday? >> You don't need my birthday. You don't need to. >> What did YOU PULL ME OVER FOR? WHY DID YOU STOP? Why did you stop, you little punk? Why did you stop? THERE YOU >> THEN. WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THEN? >> WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THEN? >> THE TRAFFIC STOP. >> You're [music] scared, you little. Sorry, I need your driver's license. >> Your mother, go get your superior on his mother. Get out of my face. >> Driver's leg. >> Your mother. Get out of my face. >> Registration. >> You shut up. There it is. There's my No. You ain't hand ain't handing you, >> sir. Do you have insurance? >> I ain't handing you. >> Do you have insurance? >> Back the up. >> I am not backing up. >> Back the off me. >> Do you have insurance? >> Yeah. >> Can I see it, please? >> No. Not until you get a spirit. >> He's on his way. >> You ain't doing I want a lawyer for you. Smell this up. I need to see your insurance. >> Shut your pig mouth. >> I need to see. >> All right. Get back. >> I'm not getting back. I need to see your insurance. Please. >> Are you failing to you? You're failing to follow the law, sir. This is illegal. What you already >> This is illegal. What you doing? You back the up. You back THE UP. I AIN'T BACKING THE UP. I'm backing up. >> Back up. You better grab that. >> I am not grabbing it. There's >> Yeah, you little punk. Little punk. >> Sir, you >> back up off of me. Get your hands off me. >> I need the hell you >> No, you're not going to arrest me, >> sir. Back up. Back up. >> You back the up. >> You back the up. Your hand off me. >> You cannot touch me. Stop. >> You cannot touch me. >> I TOLD YOU TO BACK UP. DUDE, please please stop. Please stop walking up on me. >> I'm in my car. >> Back up. >> The suspect then allegedly started attacking the officer who continues to call for backup. The suspect then knocks the officer's body camera to the ground. Help. Sir, back up. >> Police say one shot was fired because the suspect, 46-year-old Sam Peron, allegedly tried to grab the officer's gun. Police say he was shot once in the leg and was taken to a hospital where he was released the next day. Police say he was then transported to the local jail where he will face charges. All right, let's go to Florida to a story that it feels like you would only see in Florida. Penllis County deputies were called to a strip club because a man was there who allegedly bought several lap dances, but when it came time to pay his bill, he said he didn't have the money. You got you got a Uber? >> No. >> Okay. Uber. Whatever. >> But um >> I told them, you know what I mean? I'm >> stay here. >> I don't know. I just stay here. >> So why you not pay? It's 160 bucks. >> No, I had the money before and I told him >> before you had the money. Where'd it go? >> I don't know. So, you came here to business. You have to pay. >> So, can you tell somebody did the money? >> You can't leave here without paying. You owe $160. >> I know, but I I told him I like sign or whatever. >> You can't You can't come here and not [music] pay. They're offering services and you're not paying, correct? >> No. I want to pay them, but they want to No. Even though I had the money, but it just something messed up in my stuff. >> Okay. So, how are we going to get money? We got to come up with a plan to get the money. >> I know exactly. >> Okay. So, can [music] we call somebody? Maybe somebody can transfer some money. >> I don't have any of that. [music] >> We got to figure it out cuz we got to pay them. >> I know. I know. I don't know. >> Is there like a plan that we the road. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> So, I mean, [music] you got to pay. >> I'll I'll see what he can finance. >> Yeah. >> Financing here spending money that you don't have, >> man. >> He's having a good time, >> dude. So, >> hey. Hey. >> No, no, look. I got I got $55. Look, I had I hadund I had $200 on in my account. >> Okay. For the over for the she said 160, bro. No, I'm I'm going to pay it. >> How you going to pay it? >> I don't know, man. It's got to be some kind of sign some sign. We'll ask if they offer a payment plan. You got some corporal. He's got some money. See if he'll send you some money. >> All right. So, [clears throat] >> they they can't finance anything for you. So, I'll give you >> I'm trying to get financed. >> Okay. I'm just telling you if you don't pay. So, I'm gonna give you the opportunity right now to [music] call somebody. >> Call somebody. It's $160. [music] >> 160. >> Okay. >> But we're not going to stand here forever. >> You knew what you were doing coming here and now you're saying you can't pay. >> No, I didn't. I don't pay. >> All right. Can you Do you have somebody to call? >> No. >> So, tell me right now, yes or no? Do you have somebody who's going to give you six months? Are you Are you listening to me? >> Do you have somebody or you just fidgeting on your phone? >> No, I'm trying to find somebody. >> Okay. Do you have somebody? >> You don't have anybody to pay money. So, >> your hands face your hands out. Yeah, I might be too late. >> I had somebody go with you. >> I had somebody too late now, my guy. >> You should have called them when you were waiting inside visiting on your phone. >> That's facts. Long time ago. I was not calling right now. >> Right. Do you have an ID on you anymore? >> Yeah, he's gone. >> Let's walk over here. But literally, you can't bubble. >> Right now. >> Oh my goodness. [music] >> Me, too. >> Did you really? >> I'm like, finally the rain. >> All right. Just stand in front of my car. >> Never. Why you can't get this leg out? There we go. I'm appreciate you. You got anything that's going to focus? >> Please tell somebody to pay this. >> Too late, man. >> You going down to 49th Street now? >> No, I had somebody to call right now. I had somebody to call. a little bit. >> No, I have somebody to call. >> You should Why did you call a lawyer? >> Cuz I got somebody to call now. >> Are you a carpenter? >> No, I'm a mason. >> Mason. Mason. Okay. >> Can you [music] call somebody to pay? >> Bro, we tried for too long, man. You tried inside. You tried out here, bro. >> No, I I was unfortunately. >> No, I was going to call somebody. >> You should have money on you before you go. Let's have some money, bro. getting dances from girls, man. They're not doing this [ __ ] >> Nobody comes to this strip club just >> let me just uh drop my notes. [music] John Elbertson was arrested for the alleged shakeddown of a strip club. In the eyes of the law, those lap dances were the property of the strip club and he was charged with petting theft. Now, we turn to a story that's getting a lot of attention in Georgia. This happened in the small town of Calhoun, where a mom and her boyfriend were arrested for allegedly leaving the mom's 8 and 10year-old sons home alone in the middle of the night as they went to go run errands. out. They thought apparently the kids were going to be sleeping through the entire thing, but one of the boys calls the mom's ex-husband, who then calls police. This is what officers saw when they arrived at the house. Hey, it's count, please. Hello. >> Hey. What's up, guys? What's going on? Where is Is your dog going to get me? >> No. >> No. I have him shut. >> Okay. What's going on, guys? Is it okay if I come in here? >> Yeah. >> Is anybody else home right now? >> No. >> No. I got you. Uh, where's your mom at? >> She went out the to get stuff out of the store today. >> I got you. Are you still on the phone with your dad? Yeah. Okay. Uh, can I speak to him real quick? >> Thank you, buddy. Hey, it's Officer Balk. >> Hi there. I'm glad you're there. >> So, what's what's going on? >> Uh, they've been left at home alone since about 9:15. >> Okay. >> First unit is in her and her boyfriend left. Who's Who's uh Alex Woodward? >> That is my ex-wife. >> She's calling the phone right now. Should I answer it or no? >> That's That's his mom because she can see the camera that you guys there. >> Gotcha. She's currently loading up her storage unit, >> right? >> Gotcha. All right. Um, >> with a 10-year-old, >> it's a eight and a You're 10 and your brother's eight. Gotcha. Okay. Uh, give I'm going to hand the phone back to him. Give me one second. Okay. >> Police say they found an open container of alcohol in the home as well as a vape pen. The mom says that she went an hour and a half away to a storage unit after the boys went to sleep. Thank you. That'll be better. >> A lighter. >> Can you go that way? We just lost two. We lost two. >> [snorts] >> call >> he uh he asked sent him like a little short narrative on his phone. He said he's going to send it to Captain. He don't believe Captain He was. Yeah. Then he just sent it to her. >> Hey, y'all got everything together? >> Woodward. across the railroad track. >> Eventually, the mom, Alexandra Woodward, and her boyfriend John McHugh arrive back at the house and they're put under arrest. >> You put your hand for me. Me? >> Yep. >> Put your hand behind your back. >> Get hurt. I got my phone on my hand. >> Both of you under arrest for cruel to your children. All right. You >> got them? >> Yeah. >> For what? Cruel your children. Go up here. >> Go up here. Go up here. >> Cruelty to children. >> Yep. That's what I said. >> Yep. This ain't a joke. Now, here's a camera angle of the mom being arrested. >> Why? >> Why? >> Yeah. truck down here. >> Cruelty to children. >> Seriously. [music] >> Seriously. >> I know the guidelines. >> What are the guidelines? 375. >> Um, hey, can I ask you where are the kids? >> Where's your Where's your head? >> All right. Come on. You want to transport together? >> Hey, you good transport together? Um, hey. Uh, what's up? >> Wait, >> I got your phone in your vein. >> Well, can I write down some phone numbers? >> Feel to let you do that, Joe. >> Okay. >> And what about your dogs? >> Um, that's why I was going to ask the neighbor if you could. >> Which neighbor? >> My dogs. That one right there. >> Okay. You think they're awake right now? >> Um, no. Um, they're good for probably tonight. >> Okay. >> You could probably call them from the jail, let him know or something. >> All right. Uh, get a bag. Have you got a bag? >> Here's the mom, Woodward, and her boyfriend, Mchugh, in the back of a cruiser being taken to jail. They were originally put under arrest on a charge of cruelty to children. That carried a maximum 5 years in prison. The charges have since been reduced to reckless endangerment, according to the mom's lawyer. But that charge still carries a maximum one year in prison. Now to a very unique rescue in the state of Tennessee. Imagine just going about your day and looking up and seeing a zebra fly through the sky. Heat. Heat. Okay, so what you just watched there was a zebra that had been on the loose for more than a week being rescued in Rutherford County, Tennessee. The animal was found in a pasture and airlifted back to its owner. >> Whose car is it? >> Uh, it's actually I just got it from free the other day. You got you got a car for free. >> That's what I'm just telling him. If I had that wasn't from me, sir. I swear to God. >> How could you have seen that right now? >> We just ran the plate of [music] this car. Uh the owner comes back with a uh warrant, open warrant. We're going to attempt to pull him over and investigate. 4331 traffic stop. Carplan and Harvey on a maroon Chevy Impala with three. >> Put your hands on the steering wheel. >> I didn't see them. >> Watch your back seat guy. >> Copy. >> How we all doing tonight? >> All right. >> What's your name, sir? >> David what? >> All right. You know you have a warrant on you. Huh? >> You know I got a warrant on me already. >> Cuz I ran your license plate. That's how I know. >> That ain't even my plate. >> Okay. Well, you come back driving this car. If you give me a hard time, you're going to jail. >> You got it. I respect that, man. >> All right, sir. I'm just letting you know. Step out here. >> I can't do nothing but respect that. >> Apparent. >> You got anything all you shouldn't have? How about for a second? You know you got a capius on you for what? >> I don't know yet. It's a misdemeanor. Don't give me no trouble. I'll give you a recite and get you on your way. Okay. >> What's that? You got a warrant? >> Yeah. Step back here. You got anything on you? Shouldn't happen. >> Watch out. Pull him over for when we run the license plate. He has a warrant on it. >> I'll do it. >> Yeah. >> This is his girl's car, he said. >> Yeah. >> It's good. You want to see if there's anything in the car? >> Yeah. Do me a favor, sir. You don't have any warrants, so you're not going to jail. All right. I just need you to step out here. Okay. >> Go ahead. You can undo it. Go ahead. You're fine. Like I said, as long as I can see your hands, you're okay. >> Okay. Is that beer open or not? >> Okay. Let me reach down and grab it and hand it to me. >> All right. >> There's no record on him. Let me try one more thing real quick. >> What you got up there? >> Yeah, you do. Don't do anything funny. Got his arm. >> Quit tensing up. >> I ain't tensing up. >> Put your hands Put your hands Put your hands behind your back. >> Put your hands >> I'm not tensing up. >> You're going to get tased, man. You better quit. >> You better quit. >> No. QUIT. >> GET DOWN ON THE GROUND. HOME ON THE GROUND. [groaning and screaming] >> I'M MAKING on his back, Tom. PUT MORE WEIGHT ON HIS BACK. >> 31. WE NEED ASSISTANCE NOW. I'm just holding on to the guys. I'm not even moving it. Get his arm, Tom. >> I got it. >> I BET I PUT YOUR HAND BACK. >> I Tom, get in custody, man. >> Stupid, man. >> I can't see. >> There it is. Right there. >> I'm going to have a seat. Okay. >> Oh, I can't see. No. >> Have a seat. Watch your head. >> Hold on. Hold on. Which way I going? To the left. >> My butt going down. Searching. >> This is what I felt when I patted him down. I was on the sidewalk after. Must have fell out of his pants. Some heroin in there. >> Is it? >> Yeah. >> Hey, man. >> Was that just Was that just heroin or was it crack? Was it crack and heroin >> or is there something else too? >> No, it was just soft. What I had >> crack? Yeah. >> But there's some heroin in there too, right? Yeah. >> You use cocaine? >> No. >> No. So what were you doing? Trying to sell it? >> No, I don't sell nothing. >> So you don't sell it and you don't use it. What what you have with it? >> Being a dump a dummy. >> When when we test that when we test that heroin and it shows up to be heroin, it'll be two counts of possession. Okay. >> Yes, sir. >> And then is going to be be resisting arrest also. Okay. >> This guy gave you a car for free. You don't know who he is. >> Don't try to make this sound not legitimate. He really did give it to me. >> Okay. People don't normally, even though the car may be a piece of junk, they don't normally give them away. >> This guy, >> he's got a horribly defective exhaust and didn't signal pulling out of the >> the store back there under the road. So, stop him. >> Henry 12 traffic. He's also got a blank trip permit. >> The Kang about 262 771. How's it going? >> See driver's license, registration, insurance. >> I don't got much. I I'm >> You barely got anything. You have a >> Yeah. Okay. I have a Montana license. >> Okay. >> Which uh I got a brake light ticket a while ago. >> Okay. >> And I don't know for sure if it's even not suspended or not, honestly. I'm just trying to get >> Okay. And your Is this your car? Uh, no. >> Whose car is it? >> Uh, it's actually I just got it for free the other day. >> You got You got a car for free? >> Yeah, I was riding my bicycle and you can go ask. >> Just keep your hands right there. Okay. Keep your hands outside the car. So, who gave you this car? >> He lives uh right past I don't even >> You don't even know where it is. So, this guy gave you a car for free. You don't know who he is. >> Don't try to make this sound not legitimate. He really did give it to me for free. >> Okay, but people don't normally even though the car may be a piece of junk, they don't normally give them away. It wasn't even running when I first got it. So, it was a total piece of It was covered in moss, like buried in moss. I was just like, "How much do you want for the car?" Cuz I work on cars. >> Have you ever had a Washington license? >> Uh, >> ever in your life? >> Nope. >> Just Montana. >> Uh, c can I explain something? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I'd love to just explain this all to you. I got a breakite ticket a while ago. >> Okay. You already told me. >> They sent it They sent it to Montana. I didn't get any information about it. I got a failure to appear in court. I got like a $400 and something dollar fine. Okay. Okay. Because they sent it to Montana instead of >> you know what I mean? And um yeah. So I'm just trying to get my freaking life back. >> Okay. Here. Hop out here and walk to the front of the car for me. Okay. Just talk to my partner real quick. Do you have anything on you you're not supposed to have? >> Uh stand face away from me. >> Do you have anything on you? >> Uh I don't think so. >> You don't think so? That's usually a yes. Okay. >> Well, I mean >> if you did, what would it be? It's nothing that's going to poke us, is it? >> No. No. No. No. Not at all. >> No. Not at all. >> All right. >> What are those pills? >> Those are my medications. >> What? What? What are they? >> They're colonopen.in. They're for anti-anxiety. I take them all the time. >> Do you have the prescription for those? >> No. >> Then that's a felony. >> Okay. Well, getting a felony. >> Could you call my dad and tell? >> Yeah, we'll figure it out. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. cuz he would want to know about this. >> Okay. >> Water. >> Take him back up for me if you would. I'm going to check his check his name. >> Those pills. What kind What are they? >> They're I don't I don't exactly know what they are. >> What did you think they were? >> I thought they were just colon. >> Okay. Cuz you look messed up. >> I'm so freaked out because I just don't want to go. >> Well, you're taking medication that you don't even know what the medic put him in your car real quick. Let me check this. >> But can I still talk to you right here? >> Okay. So, one of our set detectives, one of our drug detectives is going to come out here to help us just to see what these pills are. Obviously, >> would you like me to just tell you the whole story then if this is so >> Sure. I mean, it is cuz I've never met anybody. >> Well, for sure. >> Okay. >> I've actually gotten like three or four cars for free just because I asked. Most people don't ask about cars just sitting behind people's houses. >> But I was riding my bicycle by this guy's house and at first he said $50 and I said, >> "Uh, well that sounds good. I'll be back in a couple days to pick it up." Right. Then he said, "Well, if you can use it today, why don't you just take it today?" Right? And I'm using it to get to my new job so I can pay this guy the 50 bucks that he wanted. And he said, "If you don't have it, don't worry about it." >> Okay. >> It's an anti-anxiety drug. Uh they're both 10 millig. They're both the peach and the white are the same thing. They're prescription only. >> Class. She didn't give me a class. She said they're prescription only. She's like, "They are not." She's like, "They're control substance. They're not uh basically prescription." He's He's going to go to jail tonight for the prescription medication that's not his, not prescribed to him, that he admits to taking. He says he can point out where he got it, but it just nothing makes sense. So, it'll be impounded cuz he's arrested and it'll go as a possible and reported stolen. >> How can you have seen that right now? >> That was not on me at all. >> You might as well save your breath, man. It's all come out of your saw. >> This area is uh typical for uh junkies coming up to buy their heroin. So, we uh trying to get this vehicle pulled over right here. Uh they came out of a lot that uh that we know is a main uh dealer uses to sell his heroin. >> Everybody keep their hands where we can see them. >> Have your license registration. >> What's going on? >> You tell me what's going on. >> What do you mean? >> My mom called me and asked me to pick her up. I was >> like, we went over to that there's like a housing plan across the street. That's what we were over there, too. >> Well, you know what that lot's known for, don't you? >> What lot? >> Lot you guys just came out of. >> Oh, no. That's what her mom said to come over here. We went in every lot. We went down that park drive. >> That's where they sell That's where they sell drugs up here. Right in that very lot you pulled out of. And we get behind you. You guys are moving around, which is very typical. Somebody trying to hide their their dope after they bought. Step out from >> Put your hands up on the car. So, >> should I pull up my pants? 21. Do >> you have anything sharp on you that's going to poke me? >> No, I think I have a lighter. >> You have a lighter, >> too? I'm not. >> Throw your cigarette down. >> Step back here for pulling my pants. >> You can pull your pants. You have any ID on you? >> No. >> No. >> I don't have anything. I don't even have a I don't have ID >> at this point right now. We we've uh got consent from the driver to take a look in her vehicle based on our uh suspicions of possible narcotics uh paraphernalia right now. So >> some needle marks there. What's up? >> Right here. You said I saw some marks in your arm. So I don't do anything. >> That string cup came out of my my hoodie. I swear to God. >> How about the empty stamp bag? >> What about the empty stamp bag? >> That's not mine. I swear to God on my Dude, you can check me. I >> She now I think >> or she was. >> If I did heroin, I wouldn't be able to pay my bills. >> You got your boat >> Friday. Today, Saturday. >> And we just asked if um >> I just got fired one day ago. >> We just asked this guy across the street if they've seen her mom and that and they were like, "No." >> That seriously is what they said. >> Mike, I'm going to take a walk back. >> Huh? >> Cuz he had his arm out the window there. I see smoking a cigarette. You flick that. >> We'll see. Make sure it didn't drop anything. >> I work every day. >> I work every day of my life. I just own my own place. I wouldn't be able to pay bills if I was a junkie. >> You check the inside of the socks? >> No. >> Both of them? >> Yeah. You take your socks off for me. >> Pick your foot up. Pull way up. >> Step this way. >> All right. >> What should I do? Sir, >> you got cops on. >> Huh? >> Huh? >> You don't even ask her, sir. If I have anything, it wouldn't be right now. I swear to God. >> What happened to you? >> That's what I'm just trying to tell him. If I had That wasn't from me, sir. I swear to God. >> That wasn't yours. >> How couldn't you have seen that right now? >> What is it? That was not on me at all. >> You might as well save your breath, man. You saw come out of your sock. >> Sir, when you just said step back. I swear to God that's not mine. >> You can kick your shoes back on if you want. I'm not putting your socks on. >> Sir, can you please ask him? Please. He just searched my my >> There's no asking anybody. It's your dope. >> No, that isn't. I don't even dope, sir. I swear. >> Sir, how can you tell me that that's mine? You can tell the judge. You can explain to the judge what happened. >> Sir. Sir, I didn't do anything. That is not mine. >> Piece of rock in there, too. >> I brought him up here cuz he was sick and I didn't want to fight with him all day. >> You know who he was? >> He was He wanted me to drop him off at his friend's house cuz I didn't want to deal with him. And I brought him up here and I guess he tricked me into coming up here. >> He bought stuff. So you think, okay, so you didn't know what was going on. >> She checks hot, car's registered, registration's good to go. She's uh squared away as far as we're concerned. >> Okay, have a good day. >> Thank you. >> We really don't want to see you up here anymore. It's a bad area. Okay, >> free to go. >> I got him. >> Whose car is that? Go back up. I >> just pick it up right there. No, it's >> it's going to be jacked. We're going to be stopping in green Mitsubichi up here. It's right brake light is out. So, we're going to stop and talk to the driver and see what's going on. I got him. I got him. Hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. I got him. I got him. Open your hand up. Open your hand up. >> Right, Frank. One, I mean two. Can you put us on a vehicle stop? And we're going to be back here. I'll get you an address in a second. We had a subject run from the vehicle. We got him detained. Why you running? >> Huh? Whose car is that? >> Huh? >> Whose car is that? >> Go back. >> I just pick it up right there. No, it's true. >> It's going to be jacked. Sit up. Our vehicle stop's going to be at Lucreta. Um, just north of a farmer house. If I get a unit, please. >> You probational pro? >> No. >> You're not? >> No. >> When's the last time you've been in jail? >> Oh, shucks. 200 2003. >> Okay. What you running from? Huh? >> I knew the damn car was stolen. >> Oh, you knew it was stolen. >> But I need to get home. >> But you got to get home. >> Yeah. So, you took the vehicle knowing was stolen cuz you had to get home. >> Yes, sir. >> Who's in the car with you? >> Nobody. >> You were by yourself? >> Yes, sir. >> I ain't want to get blamed for it. That's all. >> How you know it's stolen? >> It's obvious. >> Why is it obvious? >> Huh? >> The damn thing don't match. >> Okay, that's not going to be the plate. >> Yeah. >> Try four yellow spread >> real wide. Spread your feet real wide. >> They got two different plates. That's how I knew he was. >> Two different plates on there. >> Yeah. >> So, you knew it was stolen because of that? >> No. I was told that it was. I was just trying to get the hell home. >> Oh, okay. So, I guess it is stolen. >> Yeah. >> You have ID on you? >> I just got a hold of the register owner on phone u from the victim information in the stolen vehicle. He's going to come out here um and pick up his vehicle and take custody of it. >> When did you get that car? >> Not too long ago. Like >> tonight or yesterday? Okay. Tonight. >> Okay. How long ago before we got you? Before we stopped you? >> Like 3 minutes. >> How do you know this guy? Is it a friend of yours or? >> No, I I I don't really know him. >> Uh-huh. >> I don't really know the guy, but I used to help a guy that used to live there and move there. >> Were you walking on foot and then he flagged you down? >> I was on foot >> and then he just, hey, I got this stolen car. He gave you the keys or the keys were already in it? >> The keys already in it. >> Okay. So, you hopped in, started up, and then took off. >> Yep. >> Did you Did you see us when we got behind you >> and start following you or you didn't did you notice that we were there? >> No, I I really didn't know. When did you know the cops were behind you? >> When um I see the light. >> Okay. And then you pull over and then took off. >> Yes. >> The main reason you were running because it's a stolen car. >> Yeah. Cuz I knew that. >> Anything else to add to it? >> Have you ever gotten a stolen car from him before? >> No. >> So this is your first time? >> Mhm. >> All right. Okay. Got it. >> When your vehicle is stolen, um the keys are in the ignition. How was it stolen? The Did you have it running somewhere or >> No, this is my only key. >> So is that a shaved key then? Probably going to be >> That's not my key. I actually have not Okay, it is I haven't removed the key yet. This key comes back to a Dodge or not comes back, but it's for a Dodge. You can see the Dodge on it. So, what they'll do is on these older Hondas, they'll shave these keys and uh they'll put them in ignition and this one happened to start your car. So, it doesn't look like your ignition is is damaged. They're just using the shaved key to start your car, which is real common. >> Okay. >> So, your car was locked locked up. >> Yeah, locked. It's the only key. I actually That's the only key >> in front of your house. >> In front of the house. >> Okay. So luckily [music] we're able to get bad guys in testing.