just tore up all my paperwork in front of me stop he pushes them or something and then he's like why did he have no repercussion for slapping me across the face September 30th 2025 a Walmart store location undisclosed officers responded to a reported battery involving a petition gatherer and a counter protester who destroyed signed initiative petition pages and initiated physical contact oh my God hello Sir Robert Robert Robert Robert hello would you mind come and talk to me over around the corner real quick so I was petitioning right here and I had a gentleman actually signing so while I was signing I pitched that guy that's in there so he can came grabbed my board tore up all my paperwork in front of me okay and then I was like dude what are you doing so I went and said hey what are you doing so he pushed my hand and that's when I pushed him so then he said he I assaulted him OK so I'm like bro how you how assaulted you if you coming over here and you're tearing up my paperwork OK yeah so I mean I'm like I don't know what's going on with it do you wanna go try to contact your VP do you have your ID on you yes I do what does that guy look like he's sitting right there hello Officer Wolf good how are you good please kind of explain to me what happened today yeah so I'm not sure why this guy hasn't been trespassed off the property yet Walmart told me that they tried to get him kicked off 3 times okay what happened today so I went up and he handed me a petition and I ripped one of the pages and then he came up and slapped me across the face okay so you came from behind the table walked around and slapped you in the face no no I came up to the table like on this on the short side of the table right there okay like exiting yeah I was exiting okay um I came up to the table he handed me a petition I ripped the petition and then uh he used his left hand to slap me across the uh this side of my face do you say anything or I yeah just yell at me I don't remember exactly what he said okay you have your ID yep so obviously my partner wants to we got a call you didn't call right no he called yeah he called and he called and the store called okay um so all we got in our initial call was that he's he claimed that he got hit in the face by by somebody who was out there so I had like I had somebody signing right the guy actually the the state trooper got his information the guy was waiting okay and he'll tell you everything we were standing right there and the good and like I said the dude just came out of nowhere and just I pitched him he's just okay I'm like it was this for things that were already signed or can I see it okay interesting alright you see what I'm saying yeah so and I and I said to him like bro you don't have you like if you don't agree with it you don't have to rip my paperwork up this is a this is a federal document that's what he don't know this is valid information yeah so I don't know what he was thinking but that's what he did OK what did you say happened again so he came out I had somebody sign it I said I pitched him I said we're trying to stop boys from getting in girls sports what he did was he took my boys split it and then pushed it in front of me OK and that's when I retaliated there was a guy standing right here the dude said dude what are you doing if you didn't agree with it you didn't have to tear up the paperwork he was like oh yeah well if you want to if you want to hit me again I'll call the police I said you know what call the police because he said oh you just assaulted me go ahead and call the police because this doesn't make any sense so when you say you retaliated what do you mean by that so when he put he pushed the uh the board to me and that's when I pushed him back okay so just like pushed him to get away kind of yeah cause he was he was literally in my face I'm I was standing right here you standing like literally right here okay in my face so look at the cameras real quick yeah cause he's saying that you slapped him in the face yeah no I did it I I but that's after he pushed me in that's after he pushed me in my boards okay so it's just in retaliation gotcha yeah okay you can't really see cause they're in a weird spot okay this is but you can see this is him starts ripping it up right there guy try to get the stuff he pushes him or something and then he smacks him cause it kind of looks like he almost does a swing at him first he did a little thing like that right and he just missed right alright we'll be right back so we we took a look at the video based on what I saw I mean it looks like he was kind of the aggressor in the situation you were just kind of pushing I was trying to listen the whole time cause I'm not gonna lie I don't know if you guys seen it on the news we've been getting a lot of flags for this and this is a lot of people think it's against transgender and it's not what it is is basically making sure we protect girls and girls sports so what's been happening if you guys watch the Olympics you've seen two transgenders competing for yeah well I got you so what one thing I just want to get at is we're gonna see if Walmart just wants to like trespass him get him off the property okay would you want to go any further than that and like pursue any yeah cause man just make him so he doesn't try to do this with any other other people because like how am I gonna turn that in so now I gotta sit down and I gotta try to paste this up so that it can go through so that they can actually count this towards getting it on the back yeah and honestly like one of the problems we're running into is like I feel like that's gotta be a crime somehow I I just I just don't know which one it is right so we're kind of looking a little bit to see yeah cause this is this it this does it crazy man look at this what's happening is whatever group they're in they're actually they're on Facebook so they telling them the wherever locations we're at hey they're they're at this location this is what's going on with them okay yeah but I'll pursue it because in some states it's considered a felony if you if you infringe on the balloting process so we're still working through all this looking at the videos calling people and seeing what the best course of action is gonna be so just hang tight for a couple more minutes right yeah is there anything else you would like to add to your statement well that's it just hopefully this guy don't do do something same thing to somebody else because that's not cool I got you is what you have said here in the statement true to the best of your knowledge and recollection yes it is OK this interview is concluded at 18:55 so what we're gonna do is he's gonna be trespassed from this location so um we're gonna serve him a site that includes it's essentially an arrest but we're not actually taking him to jail we're just giving him a court date to show up to okay um but we're also gonna give him a trespass so we're gonna make sure that he leaves the property after that okay yeah cause I'mma leave I'mma leave I'mma leave too cause I don't I had too many people calling like yo are you okay and I'm like yeah I'm okay I'm not sick or nothing yeah it's just like bro I was like way out of context and I'm like man alright you wanna talk to this girl alright David there's your ID back so what's gonna happen today is the first thing is they are gonna have you trespass from Walmart they want you to come back onto Walmart property so this is a trespass notice that's valid for 3 years from today's date if you come back you is it risk being arrested uh I'm not yeah it's just this one okay alright so I'll have you sign that real quick is he gonna be trespassed nope what's gonna happen to anime oh it's going to anime that's your coffee this is going to be a criminal citation for you for malicious mischief alright so on the top here you're gonna have a court date alright OK do you have any other questions what's gonna happen to him he's going to go about his day nothing for slapping me across the face if you wanna give a statement I can read you your Miranda rights and you can give us a statement you saw it on video I also saw you rip his property on video that gives him the right to slap me across the face like I said if you want the copy of the case number is on there if you wanna deal with that then you can have a copy of the case report you can request it I just wanna know why I just explained everything to you right before you started recording but you are now trespassing this property so I can move across the property I just like to speak with you what is there to talk about I I wanna know why he can slap me across the face and have no repercussions why does he have no repercussions for slapping me across the face because you walked up to him took his property ripped it and then pushed him and he responded I did not push him by defending himself I did not push him okay the video shows otherwise and you damaged his property I did not push him okay well you damaged his property and you there was some kind of altercation prior yeah he was slapping me across the face can I tell you something you have the right to remain silent anything you say can will be used against you in the court of law you can exercise this right at any time do you want to keep talking he slapped me across the face okay okay why did you rip up the documents right in front of him the signatures I'm and why did you shove it right into his chest I did it in slow motion that's what it looks to be in the video so why did you do that I was I'm I'm not gonna answer OK you don't have to answer but you do have to leave the property OK I just I just I just wanna know why he's not being like we just explained that he just gets away with it no he doesn't get away with it but you are trespassing so you need to leave I would like to speak to a sergeant that's not gonna happen today you can call you have to leave the property if you refuse to leave we're going to arrest you this is ridiculous I mean like are you kidding me we can explain that all at your court date but you need to leave the property this is really messed up you man there's kids dude there's kids sit on it transphobe piece of shit get a real fucking job wait you guys trans like do you guys hate trans people too I mean like what what's going on you gotta leave the property or you'll be arrested for trespassing okay they tried to get him trespassed off the property and they said this was public property okay your being ordered to leave this property or you will be booked into jail First Amendment Meyer versus Grant 486 U S 4 1 4 1 9 8 8 circulating a ballot initiative petition is core political speech any interference with petition activity is subject to strict scrutiny under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution lesson political disagreement does not create a legal right to destroy another person's property or disrupt lawful speech the content of a petition is irrelevant to its constitutional Protection the law protects the process not the position malicious mischief knowing and unlawful destruction of property ballot interference statutes in multiple states elevate this to a felony when the damaged property consists of signed initiative petition pages California Elections Code Section 1 8 6 0 0 is one example self defense doctrine requires three elements first the claimant did not initiate the confrontation second they faced an imminent and unlawful physical contact third their response was proportional to the threat received initial aggressor doctrine a person who initiates unlawful physical contact forfeits the right to claim self defense against the other party's responsive force video evidence establishing the sequence of contact is dispositive lesson admitting to physical contact voluntarily as the petitioner did supported his self defense claim rather than undermining it transparency with investigators combined with available video is often the strongest legal position a complainant can take gram v Connor 490 US 3 8 6 1 9 8 9 officer decisions are judged by the standard of a reasonable officer with the information available at the moment of the decision not evaluated with the benefit of hindsight Miranda v Arizona 384 U s 4 3 6 1 9 6 6 the right to remain silent attaches the moment questioning becomes accusatory and the subject is not free to leave officers must advise before proceeding with custodial interrogation Fifth Amendment the right against self incrimination is absolute invoking it cannot be treated as evidence of guilt cite and release is a lawful misdemeanor disposition where the suspect is identified cooperative and poses no flight or safety risk car on do you see c section 1 9 8 5 3 coordinated conspiracies to deprive persons of constitutional rights including the right to petition may give rise to federal civil liability independent of any state criminal charges filed at the scene lesson a brief act of political hostility can generate criminal charges a felony referral for ballot interference federal civil exposure and a permanent trespass from a private property the law does not distinguish between small acts and serious consequences