Thank you for teaching me not to be helpful, you fat piece of >> You have to step back. Step back. Step back. Step back. Step back. >> In California, that is retired firefighter Joseph Garcus. He just saved a man's life, but is now getting chewed out by a police officer. And Garcus is yelling back. >> I don't know who you're >> So now you're going to come over with me, huh? You're doing a really good job right now, aren't you? >> I need you to back up. >> You need to calm him. I need you to back up. >> I got him. I got him. I got him. Come here. That's the Santa Paula cop, Christopher Rivera. >> Officer Rivera just twisted Garcus' arm and dislocated the man's shoulder. >> Really? The pain compliance. That's what we need to do. >> What's his name? >> Video. Do you see what you're doing wrong? If you know how to do this job and you have a badge, then you would understand. Now, do you want to go to 148? If you have a badge, >> it's so >> Do you have a badge? Are you retired? >> Do you want to go for room 48 for being in a crime scene? Just because sergeants on patrol don't know how to do their job and you were a >> senior sergeant doesn't know how to do his job. >> Take him turn around. >> Hey, check that out. I stopped to help somebody who been shot. I'm getting arrested. >> Um, have a seat for a second. >> Just so you know, >> this incident is now at the heart of a federal lawsuit for civil rights violations, battery, and negligence. The clash began in October 2020. Retired firefighter Joseph Garcus was driving in Santa Paula when he saw a shooting victim, Samir Sgado, lying face up in a parking lot in a pool of blood. Mr. Garcus got out of his vehicle and began administering CPR. Police arrived moments later. >> Don't go to that. Don't go to the car. Don't go to that car. Stay over here. Stay over here. Stay over here. Come over here. >> That's your car. >> That's my car. I was driving by. I saw it. I'm a retired car. Okay. >> Not a part of this. >> We don't know anything about that. We see a gun in the car. You're not going there. Do you have your ID? >> It's in the car. >> What's your name? >> Joe Garcus. >> Joe Garc. You got You got to relax. Okay. We know you're helping us out. >> Well, but you guys aren't listening either. That's part of the problem. >> I said we appreciate you being involved. Okay. We just run. >> That's his knife. I took it out of his pocket to cut his shirt off. >> And that's your vehicle. >> Yeah. I was driving north. I saw the lady. They were looking this way and I saw him down and I thought it was beer or something. spun around and came in, saw the blood. She said they were calling 911. I screamed, "Has he been shot?" She said, "Yeah, as I was pulling in." >> Okay. >> Saw the gunshot went to the side of his face. Um, I did a quick check, found the gun in his waistband, rendered it useless, stuck it inside my car, grabbed his knife, cut off his shirt, and then you guys started showing up. >> Okay. Did you see Did you see anybody running? Anybody leaving the area? Anything? >> Relieve him. Someone relieves him. Get a mask. >> Not a thing. >> Get this guy out of here, sir. He's a whipper. >> What the? >> Relax. Relax. Okay. >> We appreciate it. >> Huh? >> I got a crime scene, sir. I'm a detective. >> Yeah. And I'm here helping him. So, step the off. >> Okay. If you're a good detective, you wouldn't be out at me right now. You'd be taking care of your job. >> You I can't get the out of here. >> Get out of my Get out of my crime scene. >> What are you going to do to me? Get out of my crime scene. >> Get out of my crime scene. That is Detective Chris Rivera. >> I'm going to make you next time. Get out of my crime scene. Come with me, Mr. Garcus. Mr. >> Garcus, it's my car. >> Come with me, Mr. Garcus. >> No wonder people will give you guys the benefit of the doubt. And I work with you for 27 years. When do I get my car back then? Hey, tell them. >> Thank you for teaching me not to be helpful, you fat piece of >> You have to step back. Step back. Step back. Step back. Step back. Step back. I don't know who you're >> So now you're going to come over with me, huh? You're doing a really good job right now, aren't you? >> I need you to back up. You need to calm him. I need you to back up. >> Officer Rivera then leaves the crime scene to confront Mr. Garson. >> I got it. I got it. I got it. Come here. >> Hands off. >> Really? The paint compliance. That's what we need to do. >> What's his name? >> Take it down a notch. >> You can take it down a notch. >> Somebody here's not controlling themselves. You >> take a deep breath. >> Don't be a hypocrite. >> I've taken a deep breath. It's your turn now. >> Yeah. Don't be a hit. >> Want to talk like adults? >> I'll let you go. You want to talk about >> You start talking to me like an adult. >> Do you understand how I need to work? Do >> you see what you're doing wrong? >> If you know how to do this job and you have a badge, then you would understand. Now, do you want to go for 148? If you have a badge, >> it's so weird. >> Do you have a badge? Are you retired? Do you want to go for 148 for being in a crime scene? Just because Sergeant Children don't know how to do their job and you were a >> sergeant doesn't know how to do his job. >> Take him. Turn around. >> Where's your badge at? >> In my Jeep like I keep saying. But you won't listen. >> We're adding your Jeep. Hey, you go see it when you look you want your car. Do you want me to have to write a search warrant and keep it or do you want to keep your car? >> Do you want to get home as soon as possible? >> I'm not talking anymore. >> Okay. >> Sink out in uh 64. >> What's your first name? >> Joe. >> Joe. >> Hey, check that out. I stopped to help. Somebody been shot. I'm getting arrested. Um, >> have a seat for a second. >> Just so you know, I'm retired because of PTSD. Got it. >> Major anxiety problems. Got it. >> Being in handcuffs doesn't help me. I know you guys got to do it. Keep away from me. You >> got it. >> He is accelerating this way more than I am. >> I won't let him talk to you anymore. You want the windows down or anything? Okay. >> Can we just sit right here with me? The door open. I ain't going anywhere, dude. You guys all know where I sit right here for now. >> I mean, I know what you guys do. I mean, I did it with you for 27 years in Oxnard, not Santa Paul. >> To have that happen, that's as unprofessional as anything I did. And a cop shouldn't lose like that. You both You and I both know that. >> Do me a favor. Just sit here for now. >> No problem. Well, they know that. I already told the first couple guys here that there's a gun on the on the uh P or the floor of my of the driver. >> Dude, this is going to freak me out. Come back quick. >> I'll roll up I'll roll down the window. Stand. >> Okay. Um and what was your last name, sir? >> Garcus. Garc. >> Okay. And you're detained right now. Okay. All right. >> Moments later, Mr. Garcus asked if officers or EMS could help get the shooting victim's blood off of him. >> Absolutely. Cap, >> can we get some decontamination for a guy in the back of the car here? He was doing CPR. Got >> sure blood on you. >> I I got the fire captain coming over to decontamination. >> I don't know. I've been standing over here. >> This the one that needs decontaminating cap. He has blood on him. >> Yeah, he's he's actually witnessing, but he was doing CPR when we came up and >> we had to Where's the blood on him? Do you know >> I don't know. probably on his hands. >> EMS decontaminated Mr. Garcus, though the police officers held him in the back of the patrol car for another 10 minutes. Then officer Rivera uncuffed Mr. Garcus and told him he was free to leave. Mr. Garcus asked for emergency medical services and was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. According to medical records in the lawsuit, Mr. Garcus was treated for a dislocated shoulder and a torn labum that had to be surgically repaired. The lawsuit also says Garcia suffered emotional distress and that the arrest triggered a post-traumatic stress response he had first experienced as a firefighter in Oxnard, California. The shooting victim in this case, Samir Solgato, survived and a few days after the gunfire, authorities made an arrest charging an alleged trigger man with attempted murder. As for Mr. Garcus, the good Samaritan who stopped and saved Mr. Sgado's life only to be yelled at and arrested by a cop. The lawsuit against Santa Paul's Police Department is grinding on. A judge recently ruled that officer Christopher Rivera had qualified immunity and could not be held personally liable for excessive force. However, the lawsuit against the police department and the city is moving forward. Legal experts say Mr. Garcus has a strong case. They note the courts have long held that all citizens have a First Amendment right to criticize and even yell at police. By the way, in Michigan, a police chief has now been fired after assaulting a loud teenager. >> So, the original altercation was because you were >> squeaking the tires on the bird. >> He yelled at you from up there? >> Yeah. Is that Is that a worthy thing that hit someone with a flashlight? >> Cuz he's chief of police. He's above me. He's better than me. >> Check out that video at the link below. I'm David Schuster. 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