Michelle. >> Yes. >> Hey, it's me. >> I know. >> Okay. I'm in a I'm in a police car. I'm going to Jackson County Jail. >> [ __ ] me. >> Okay. Um, we're on speaker phone with the police officer. [Music] you. What's your name? >> Jim Lucas. >> Jim Lucas. Where you coming from? >> Just walking. >> You weren't driving a van? >> No, no van. >> No van. You sure? >> I don't drive a van. >> Okay, let's step over here. You just have for a walk? >> Mhm. >> Okay. You didn't see a van go by with no tires on it? >> I No van. >> No van. Okay. All right. I mean, you've been drinking, so that's why we're I'm asking you because we got somebody apparently driving around with no tires on a van, and then we've got you stumbling around out here. >> I have no van. [Music] >> I have 64. >> Okay. Where's it at? >> That's why I'm calling you. >> See, that's what I'm saying. Right here. >> Got it, Mr. Lucas. >> There's no saying. I I volunteered this. I know you did, but I I know I know around the chamber. >> It's no good otherwise. >> Yeah, I'm 2A all the way, baby. >> I have, >> just FYI, knife in my back pocket. >> Okay, >> if you don't mind. >> I appreciate you letting us know. Back pocket right here. >> Oh, that's a nice one. >> A man of taste. >> I know. I like it. I can hear Spyderco. Make sure you register there. I >> was going to ask him about his gun. I'm not going to talk anything. >> We're just standing by for state police. >> Are you a SIG guy or you a Glock guy? >> He's going to try and go through their post. See if they can get some assistance. >> Both. I didn't know if you had a private. >> There is a Glock in the center console. Not that truck over there. >> Okay. >> One in the chamber. So, >> nothing illegal. See, I wouldn't expect you to do anything illegal. That would be shocking. The >> law is not a barometer of morality. >> Yeah. [Music] >> You like it? >> So far so good. I like it. Yeah. Um it's definitely not for everyone cuz I know some guys have gone into it, man. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. It's definitely not for everyone. >> Especially today. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um it's it's a little different. I mean it's with everything you know. I think um social media has played a big factor in a lot of things. Not just you know law enforcement or anything like that is just in everything. Huh. >> I don't know. I think it's a little different. I feel like are you are you let me ask are you more of the environment shapes who you are or how you're brought up or a little bit of both? You could you could look at a lot of rich kids that have been brought up in the most wonderful environment on earth and they're [ __ ] >> Agreed. >> Or you can look at um Ant Frank. >> Agreed. >> Environment. So, um I don't think there's a significant other that you can really determine that >> but what is your opinion? >> My opinion is a dang. No, it it could be there is no one answer because you get an Frank in the middle of Nazi Germany, she shines. [Music] Okay, you get um the son or daughter of a billionaire. >> Okay. >> Um Joe Biden. Look at Hunter Biden. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Piece of [ __ ] dude. He's throwing his life away. [Music] [Music] cuz Okay, if you want to take the easy way up, take a teacher. >> I don't know. This day and age, man, there's a lot of school shootings. >> Here's the thing. Is your camera on? >> Yes, it's always on. Yep. >> You turn it off. You want to say something? I >> Okay, you [ __ ] up by not by not checking me. I volunteered my way. >> Yeah. Well, I didn't have to check you yet. And plus, I was standing with you. >> Now, but but you >> I'm not arguing. >> I know >> you. I had a weapon, >> right? >> If I were a bad guy, >> right, >> I had the advantage. >> Yes, I know. >> I'm trained. >> I didn't say you weren't. >> No, no, no. I And I'm not arguing. Okay. I I am the biggest supporter of 2A rights. >> Same. >> Everybody has a right. >> Same. >> Okay. But no, you in this situation, you have a right to be suspicious and ask me if I was carrying or anything. >> Mhm. Well, it's not it's not against the law of carry. Right. So, >> nobody pushes that more than me, >> right? So, when I asked you if had anything on you, so that's that's the stage. Now, that gives me where to how to judge you, right? And then you voluntarily told me you had a gun, right? But I wasn't I didn't need to pat you down or anything like that just yet cuz there's three. >> Huh? >> Next time you should. >> Yes and no. >> I agree with you. >> I agree with you 100%. But I can't There are certain things I can or cannot do right off the bat. I have to have certain things, certain requirements before I can do such things. But you can ask questions. >> No, you're right. I >> And I >> I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. >> No, no, I know. I know you're not help. >> No, I get it. [Music] >> You didn't see a van go by with no tires on. >> I No van. [Music] [ __ ] me. [Music]