on August 18 2022 police initiated a traffic stop after observing a vehicle with an expired tag the driver began to record on his phone while the officer explained the reason for being pulled over I'm not a driver okay well you are driving on the roadways in the State of Florida so I need your driver's license or your identification like I said I'm not driving okay well I am conducting a lawful stop you are required to present me your identification so I'll take whatever identification you have okay I I don't carry identification unless someone's gonna pay me for my name my name is registered as my property on the record okay so so what's your name okay uh I'm just recording this for the record I'm not driving or operating a vehicle for higher on the roadways and my name is your offered to select between the order so you would arrest me so my conditional acceptance remind me to you is you can give you five million dollars nickel 1394 please sir you will be arrested if you do not present some type of identification really excuse me I said really yes sir really why do I need to provide identification you are operating a road a vehicle on the roadways in the state of Florida observe with all due respect you're behind the drivers in the driver's seat behind the steering wheel I've been behind now if you want to try and prove important driving or operating tired I'm not driving or operating anything so I've been behind you since you're on Babcock okay you've been in that seat the entire time driving or operating that's that's official and if you want my name it's 500 cash okay go and step out of the vehicle for me I can step out of the beach you can step out of the vehicle for me step out of the vehicle for 500 step out of the vehicle roll over on your stomach okay sir this time you are being placed under arrest you will be registered as a John Doe until you are properly identified but I already said I'm not driving or operating okay well yes sir you are no I'm not I'm not driving or operating a vehicle man do you have a valve driver's license may I see it please thank you to a supervisor because I'm still an honor and you're arresting me and I'm being fully transparent that I'm not a driver or operator and if you want my name I'm conditionally accepting my name I also have a request for a supervisor yeah I conditionally accepted your offer so I can stay in honor I'm operating on the honor System and you're not honoring now you're in dishonor and I will prove on the record in court that my name is my property I've registered it with the concrete recorder more than two years ago so I hope you're still recording because I have my case number my filing number and my second 13 to 5047 can you come over here please and I was not pulling over I'm coming here to the printer because they have a print order for me I'm picking up so I did not pull over I need to get him into a car done man I can't Roti side be a Niza wait wait wait you're hurting yeah I know but these cups are on Tuesday all right my phone is still recording yes sir we'll make sure you have your phone but I want that on the record okay well here here as a matter of fact they can continue recording I'll stick in your pocket I already traditionally accepted all of his offers for my schedule and music before you go back in my car this will be his right here it's still recording I'll answer any questions for a hundred dollars a question okay answer that question for a hundred dollars you don't have the right you can search me for 500 cash I'm conditioning accepting all your offers for my fee schedule is no charge for that you can yeah there is I I'm in honor okay okay ma'am can you fill me on what's going on here I think I don't understand that I don't know okay how do you know him okay I don't understand stuffy talks though or you're trained on this at the Fraternal Order release I'm an expert on honor and I'm in honor okay what's his name Ronald watts is this his vehicle from what I'm yeah I mean I think his mind okay I'll be right back thank you my name is my property searching for 500 I'm going to need your name because I'm going to charge you this is the best one is the car I did not give you permission to search me without payment you're violating my rights and my ability to conduct Commerce you're violent you're in dishonor now you can search me for a hundred dollars I'll spread my fee for 100 feet no you're you're in dishonor you know you're violating the rules of honor and I have done nothing wrong and I've accepted I'll look here conditionally accept all of your own offers for my food schedule are you recording you're violating all my rights I'm in honor in your life I will come over there because you're resisting stop resisting I'm not resisting if I'm conditionally accepting online you're going in and just get in the car get in the car for five hundred dollars no you're forcing me I'll get in the car I already conditionally accepted your offer for the money get in the car get in the car you're assaulting and battering me and you're violating my rights no dude you can't put me in jail you can't do this you guys are going into distance so I get behind him at Babcock and uh New Haven and this package fired light them up as soon as it comes right apart keeps driving driving comes in here parks in here and he starts pulling that Sovereign citizen stuff as soon as I got him pulled over I'm not driving I'm traveling and they are refused to identify himself unless I paid him 500 000 the vehicle is not registered to him I understand why he's playing this game his license is valid which means he he submitted to being a lawful citizen at one point right all right well good Joe now all right here's your ID back and uh do you have somebody else to come pick you up I'm gonna take his car uh it's actually his mom's car so um more likely not we'll go over and try talking to him again but he's obviously not very cooperative so I'll be right back uh just leave it on top of the roof no it's it's actually his mom's car so yeah hello um what is your how is your relationship with his mother [Laughter] okay no big deal I just wanted to make sure you're comfortable with that too because I believe she's gonna have to come and pick up the vehicle and I don't know how she's going to do that because she have you guys talked to her uh they're calling her nails well do you have a driver's license yeah you can drive her car well that's what I asked him and he said you can't drive this car though the problem is you're not any registered owner of the vehicle or any of that kind of thing so she shows up if she shows up she can take this car and you can take her car I know it sounds kind of weird I don't know it's all a possession and um with the relationship and things like that so even if she said I could drive this car we'll we'll cross that bridge when she gets here if she says it's okay that may be a different aspect but we will try to figure that out the big thing is that we can't release a car to somebody that is you know what I mean but just hang tight I'm not disclosing the door I need to get away from me it's just hot and I want you to have right there and my name is my property on the record I've recorded it with the County recorder I said you can have my name and that's not Dishonored it's gonna make things a lot easier and you're not going to be in as much trouble I feel like you're threatening me and I have it yeah you are thank you very much sir a message she didn't answer okay I left her a long message what's that phone number again maybe if she gets another phone call [Music] any luck oh no I didn't call her again because like you said whatever I did um I called her a couple times she didn't answer and they took his phone right because I'm thinking that's why she's not answering machine well I left a message to you so yeah yeah you have someone that can come pick you up my sister's on the phone she's gonna she's got a broken arm so she's trying to get dressed and I guess she can come yeah where's she going we live in the Northeast Palm Bay yeah all right sounds good um if you can just start facilitating that because we're gonna have to tell them that's the case oh my god really like someone can't just coming like not unless they're the registered owner of the vehicle right but I'm saying like if if I were to be able to get a hold of her like my sister might be able to drive me over there maybe I can get a hold of him [Music] that's where we're at right now so like I said we have to be able to speak to the registered owner of the vehicle right she has to be okay with all that kind of stuff so if we can't we're gonna throw the vehicle so if he can just start grabbing a ride anybody come get you that'd be great okay thank you you ready to put them back in yours all right sir you're gonna get back in the other car my name is my personal property on the record that's fine you guys are violating the law and all and honor no I'm correct about everything I'm saying you're violating the law you guys are creating crimes right now and I'm going to file claims against you guys on the record okay so your name is going to be available to me you guys are cheating I can I can't this is how I got to sit because there's no room in here all right you need anything Hey sir quick question no keep your feet in the car do not get out of the car do you understand me right now I'll stay in the car for a hundred dollars listen you're sitting in the car for a hundred dollars that's my condition how is your relationship with your mother she's probably sleeping right now okay look I'll answer all your questions for 100 per question cash in writing okay well I'm trying to figure out what we're doing with your vehicle well you're taking me for no reason I that's not a video that's not a vehicle it's a car she's 85 years old and I'll answer all the rest of your questions for a hundred dollars we're just gonna tell it she's 85 years old he said and I'll answer my questions for a hundred dollars a question let's create a telephone for that right yep [Music] perfect [Music] I'm sure you're busy but when you get a chance can we get a record of rotation we're at the uh better copy on New Haven here for the Prius please regular will be fine a better copy just east of Babcock all right I let her know we're Towing in and we just need it right we just need a regular toe form for this right yeah because we're not actually taking possession of the vehicle all right all right I don't understand why we have two forms but we do all right ma'am unfortunately we are Towing the vehicle okay we can't get a hold of her and um we just tried calling from her his phone oh you have his phone yes she didn't answer oh okay then okay so I just thought maybe it picked up yeah on there we tried using it I tried seeing how his relationship is with his mother or like maybe she didn't want to answer the phone because I don't know she might be sleepy that's what he said that's what he said we didn't know I didn't knew that um so if you can just get a ride yeah my sister's parking on it like I said she's got a broken arm so I'm slow yeah so um is this his normal demeanor has this thing about yeah but I I thank God I've never been with him when he's been pulled over before because I'm traumatized now but he um yeah that that's his thing okay no no big deal I'm just I'm making sure everything else is okay and there's not other issues at hand so I don't think he's crazy he talks crazy but um I mean so he did he okay so is there something wrong with the car because I thought that's what the police officer said we stopped him for something right and I I thought he said something about the car hasn't been registered or something since March or I don't know all I know is his mom I don't know yeah well I don't know the initial reason for the stop I just know that he was asking for someone to come back him up so there was a lawful reason why he stopped the vehicle yeah on be known to me what the reason is [Music] at least they're resisting because um there's certain obligations when the vehicle gets stopped that you have to comply to and that's where we're at with that so but he will not be going home today or until later today right um other than that that's pretty much where we're at and um but um as long as you you're getting squared away with a ride we should all be good now and then once you get picked up that should be the end all right all right the suspect was charged with resisting an officer and posted Bond later that same day his case is still ongoing but his asking fee has increased to 15 million dollars according to a letter to the court [Music]