Okay, I'm in here, BUT THIS IS ILLEGAL. YOU'RE LETTING HIM LEAVE. THIS IS ILLEGAL, OFFICER. BROTHER. SHUT IT UP. DON'T YOU DARE. A WOMAN CALLS THE POLICE FOR HELP. 15 minutes later, she is the one in handcuffs. On July 27th, 2022, Dayton police responded to a domestic disturbance reported by Shannon Reef herself. She wanted only her belongings back. She left charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. The footage raises three legal questions. Why I mean you guys been out here before? So you've been out here specifically? >> Yeah. What's his name? I don't know. You've been asking him the questions. Um I just want my stuff. He's in there. I don't I don't want to press charges or anything. I just want my stuff. Do you have an ID? No. No? What's the dog? What's your name, young lady? It's Aris. Aris? Aris. Aris. Okay. Um I was like I said, no arrest if that's all right. And I'm not pressing charges. I just want my stuff. No, no, we're here, so I need your name. I just want my stuff. Um um Shannon Thomas. Who? Shannon. Shannon? Yeah. >> Thomas? No, that's my name. >> That's my husband. That's my husband. >> not married. You are married? No, we are. Not even a little bit. Um that's my husband. >> and that's that's as far as our relationship goes. >> What? Excuse me? >> What Let me let me explain. Ohio is not a common law state, so there's no such thing as a common law marriage. You do not Oh, no, we're married. Married marriage certificate or not? >> We are married. >> Show them the marriage certificate. >> Do you hear that? >> Cuz you ain't got one cuz we're not married, dummy. >> My dad married us. >> Oh, hell. >> remember, really? >> No, your dad took you to the mental hospital. So what so what what what what Listen, okay, okay. What what property is is in dispute here? >> Um he's got my electric bike out here. No. Yeah, put it in a bucket of water and now it's gone. I can't find it. It's not in the house. What are you guys got here? We're walking down that way and we just came out out from across the street and he was out in the backyard. Okay. And what property do you own? I got a bunch of her stuff. Yeah? Yeah, I know. I got a bunch of her stuff. I got totes full. So, how long have you been released to here then? A few days. But they didn't uh they didn't even ask me why. They didn't uh the He was supposed to call. He was supposed to call these people to come and pick me up, supposedly. But you you're too crazy. And I And have you called electronic home detention yet? Yeah, I tried. That's what he said. I don't know if he called them or not. I don't know if he called them or not. Called them back and they answered. I can't get through to them. Yeah. Called the clerk of courts. Okay, whatever. I'm not even worried about I mean I'm not You should be worried about that. I should be? Yeah. Why? Because She can't stay here anymore. I'll tell you They won't let me relocate anymore. Then you're going to jail. Why? I didn't do anything. You can't stay here. That's why Okay, I just want my stuff, honey. Yeah, give me my battery. You can have all your stuff. How What that the that the one that says big? Yes. What? I don't The one you took. It's probably Or in your car? All right, what what's So, I'm going to try to call. What's your name? Anthony Thomas. I'd be happy to give her stuff back. I just want my battery. It's a $1,200 battery. You're my fiance. Why the hell would I take money from you? Where are you going? Why are you going over there? To speak with the officer. Well, you can go back to the He'll come and talk to you. Go back to the porch. Hey. Hey. I just wanted to make sure you had the correct information because >> Did you not give him the right information? >> Well, yeah well, Thomas is it's it's not my maiden name. But we're we're engaged to be married. I just want to make sure that he has the right information for the um you know, so there's no confusion. Reese. Reese. It's soon to be Thomas if Maybe. I'm sorry. Go way back on the porch. Okay, my bad. What you ain't cooperating for? Um I'm on a house detention. You sit on the porch. We're going to talk to We'll be back with you in a minute. Can I get your last name? I have my information. Yep, you're right. Thank you. Just have a seat on the porch. Go back over and have a seat. For like the seventh time. Can I Can I talk to Go sit on the porch. >> here to help me or no? >> Yes, we don't know yet. >> Yes, you don't know? >> Go have a seat. Have a seat. >> What were you called out here for? Was it domestic violence or were you called out here? >> what we were called. We don't know what it is. Go have a seat. >> Well We're discussing it and the longer you take, the longer we take. >> you came out here? >> Go have a seat. >> what it is? Go have a seat. Have a seat. Have a seat on your porch or have a seat in our car. >> talked to him no problem. What's I don't understand. >> options. Sit on the porch or sit in the cruiser. There's still always three options. You said you didn't want none Have a seat now. Do what? You have a seat. You said you didn't want none done. Have a seat. Not there on the porch. On the porch. On the porch, Shannon. No, this This is my This is a porch. Do you Do you want to go to jail? Is that your goal? Oh, no. No, I'm already >> Then go sit Go Go Go have a seat on the porch. In the hole? On the porch. Where you were sitting at. How did you guys Go sit over there right now. Why is that so hard? Go sit down. Why? Because I don't understand. Have a seat. Simple. Sorry now. Have a seat. I don't understand. I I can't do this. I don't know what else Sit your butt on the chair on the porch. Simple. Is Is what I do? On the porch. Go. Now. Why are you like I just Go. Walk over there and sit your butt on the chair. Have a seat on the porch. Simple. Now you're going to jail. I'm I Have a seat on the porch. It's simple. Last time. Go sit on the porch. Go sit on the porch. You just put me there. He put a box there. Go sit there. I'm sorry. Oh, so I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Stand up. This is what they did to me in jail. You know that. What did they do? Probably. >> They treat me like a dog. Like it was disgusting. You know? And I I put you know Hey, stop. I'm sorry. Um, are you not going to read me my rights first? No. Excuse me. No. Excuse me. Sir, I haven't done anything. I'm a victim here. We'll still He's been breaking my stuff in there all day. You don't understand. It took you guys forever to get here. And that's all I have is my sentimental things, man. You What do you mean? It's already done. The damage is already done because it took them forever to get here. Why did it take you guys so long to get here, by the way? You're just right down the street. Why? Look, I don't I don't want him to get in trouble. I don't want me to get in trouble. I just want my things. Why? Cuz I'm sitting here. Sorry. You can't detain me here. This is a kidnapping. Excuse me, you can't put me in these handcuffs. It's illegal. Excuse me, what? Excuse me. You guys, HE'S IN THERE WITH MY STUFF. HEY, I'm going to get in trouble because of this ankle monitor. IF I'M AWAY FROM THAT HOUSE TOO LONG, I'M GOING to get in trouble. You don't care? Well, well, there's one of the black dogs way up there. Well, there's the second black dog. That one looked more like a Rottweiler. Excuse me. Well, and there's a tan one. >> I'm going to die in here. I need some water. Well, there's our dogs. Sir, can you Why are you ignoring me? I'm going to get I need to call the the Oh, my god. IT DID MY DAD. DADDY! [screaming] EXCUSE ME. HELP! >> [screaming] >> CAN I CAN I GET THE DOG, PLEASE? CAN YOU PLEASE GET THE DOG OUT OF THERE? HEY, can you guys please get that DOG OUT OF THE HOUSE, PLEASE, SO HE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING? I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT MYSELF. I JUST WANT THE DOG. HELLO? NO, [screaming] NONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE CHILDREN OR ANIMALS? SHE'S losing her mind right now. What the [ __ ] Please, can you go get him? HIS NAME IS VENOM. OFFICERS, HELP ME, PLEASE. OH. >> [clears throat] >> HEY! UM, HELLO, WHOEVER IS ON THE COMPUTER, can you please listen? I'm being illegally held in the back of the Indianapolis cop car. >> [screaming] >> Excuse me. Sir. What? I'm dying of thirst. You need to get that dog out of there, please. Why? Because there's stuff in there that will hurt him. Like what? That man. He's on drugs, probably. I don't know. I just don't want him to hurt the animal. He's mean to that dog, and I I don't want him to hurt the dog. I don't even care about my clothes, sir. I don't I don't want anyone to get in trouble, but I'm just worried about that dog. Please, I I don't understand. He's He's very abusive to it for no reason. Excuse me. Oh, my god. I need to use the restroom, AND I CAN'T DRINK. HEY, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING ON? Being a [ __ ] all day. So, the last night, if you have a dude over here while I'm at work, cuz I work third shift, and over, so if you have a dude over here, you might as well pack your [ __ ] up and get out. And she had do it over. I'm not going to I'm not going to put you out, but you you need to find a place to go. You know Huh, excuse me. Excuse me. >> Yes. Can you like can you just crack open this door a little bit? No. It's very hot. Can Is there bottled water still down there on the ground? Yeah. And why What are you guys waiting on? What's the issue here? You're You're detaining me illegally. >> No. Stop talking and listen to me. And then well, I can You didn't read me my rights. I'm not being arrested. You can't put handcuffs on me. I know my rights. First, was the detention lawful? Under Terry versus Ohio, officers may detain occupants of a domestic call long enough to investigate. The repeated instruction to remain on the porch was a lawful order from the moment officers arrived. Compliance was not optional. Second, was the disorderly conduct charge supported? Ohio Revised Code Section 2917.11 prohibits violent or turbulent behavior and any act creating a risk of physical harm without lawful purpose. The subject's attempt to exit the cruiser fits the second clause. Crucially, subsection E elevates the offense from a minor misdemeanor to a fourth degree misdemeanor when the offender persists after reasonable warning. Officers issued the same instruction more than seven times. The enhanced charge is not punishment for talking back. It is the statute working as written. Third, was Miranda required? The subject demanded the warning. The officer declined. The officer was correct. Miranda versus Arizona requires warnings only before custodial interrogation, custody plus questioning. Berkemer versus McCarty reaffirmed this in 1984. The remedy for a Miranda violation is suppression of statements, not dismissal of the arrest. Officers transporting a subject without questioning owe no warning at all. A separate First Amendment issue arose. The subject's profanity and accusations against the officers were protected speech under City of Houston versus Hill. Speech alone is not a crime, but speech paired with non-compliant conduct may be considered as evidence of recklessness in a disorderly conduct prosecution. Use of force never rose above handcuffing. Under Graham versus Connor, the analysis is straightforward, objectively reasonable, easily defensible. The harder issue is not constitutional. It is operational. Officers were told on scene that the subject was on house arrest and had been psychiatrically hospitalized. The ankle monitor was visible. Her behavior in the cruiser was consistent with acute crisis. Crisis intervention team protocols exist for exactly this scenario. Slow the tempo, reduce stimuli, consider mental health diversion for non-violent None of these steps appear in the footage. The arrest is legally defensible. The response is not the response a CIT trained officer is taught to deliver. Sir, I need to use the restroom. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE [laughter] A MESS IN THE BACK OF YOUR CAR. HELLO. YOU GUYS ARE HOLDING ME. THIS IS ILLEGAL. WHAT THE HELL? HEY, I HEY, I NEED YOU TO CALL SOMEBODY for me, please, because I'm going to get in trouble if you don't. Call this number. THE THE WHOLE MONITOR'S PEOPLE. YEP, what's the number? >> I don't know I don't know. It's in the house, I think. IT'S IN MY STUFF and he won't let me get it. I'm going to go TO JAIL. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. THERE'S A WHOLE LIST. I HAVE TO I don't know the No, that's fine. You can just tell me give me the number or and a name, that'll be fine. I know >> He's not GOING TO KNOW WHERE IT IS, EITHER. OH MY GOD. >> [screaming] >> HELLO. YOU CAN ESCORT ME IN THERE. I NEED TO FIND this paper, man. You guys have their number, not me. [screaming] Not him. It's on the paper, BUT YOU GUYS KNOW IT. YOU'RE FROM THE POLICE STATION. Call them, please. Hello. AND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH MY STUFF [screaming] ILLEGALLY. NO, I'M NOT. NO, I'm not. YOU GOT ME IN HANDCUFFS. THIS IS LIKE KIDNAPPING. [screaming] THIS IS SO KIDNAPPING. Since the officers would not assist her, she decides to ramp things up. I mean, kidnapping. Okay, I'm allowed to get out of here, then? All right, FINE. YOU NEVER TOLD ME THAT I WASN'T ALLOWED TO TRY TO ESCAPE. HELLO? REALLY? THAT'S MY STUFF. YOU'RE JUST GIVING HIM TIME TO so you can PLANT SOMETHING ON ME? IS THAT IT? YOU'VE been doing this WHOLE PROCEDURE ILLEGALLY. CALL JUDGE MELNICK. CALL MY JUDGE OR THE HOME TO CALL MY [screaming] JUDGE. CALL MY PO RIGHT NOW. I know my rights and this is not it. This is not Indiana, either. This is not Indiana AND I'M NOT STATE PROPERTY. [screaming] WHAT YEAR IS THIS, ANYWAYS? HUH? DO WOMEN NOT HAVE RIGHTS? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OR ARE YOU RACIST [ __ ] OR ARE YOU JUST YOU DON'T LIKE WOMEN. NONE OF YOU HAVE DAUGHTERS. NO, YOU PROBABLY DON'T, DO YOU? YOU DON'T HAVE DAUGHTERS OR BEDS. YOU'RE PROBABLY [screaming] JUST ALL GAY. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OR YOU'RE [ __ ] terrorists as well. You're letting him leave THE SCENE OF A CRIME. HELLO? OH MY GOD! EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, I'M IN HERE, BUT THIS IS ILLEGAL. YOU'RE LETTING HIM LEAVE. THIS IS ILLEGAL PROCEDURE. GRAB HER. SETTLE DOWN. DON'T YOU I'M DYING. SETTLE DOWN. >> I'm okay. I'm not going to die in here. I'm not going to die in >> just got to sit up. There's He's got illegal stuff in that house. You got to sit up. >> NO, HE'S GOT HE'S GOT HIS DAUGHTERS. Your wife's stuff. DUDE, THERE'S A THERE'S A A BIG black There's a a stolen There's a bike a big black a battery thing a bomb. THERE'S A BOMB IN THERE. HE'S A GODDAMN TERRORIST. WHAT THE [ __ ] THERE'S A BOMB IN THAT HOUSE. CAN I PLEASE TELL YOU? NO. NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW? NO. DUDE, THAT HAS TO BE WHAT he was talking about. He kept SCREAMING ABOUT A BATTERY. NOW I KNOW WHAT HE'S talking about. No, you Settle down. Dude, there is Oh, that's not good. He just left. There's He just left it in there. You guys, I got to Oh my god. YOU GUYS. SAMMY, THIS IS ILLEGAL. YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ me my rights. SIR, YOU CAN'T do that. SETTLE DOWN. SAM, SAM, YES. YES, I'm dead. Yes, Sam Longer. Sam Longer. Yes. Samantha, I know I know, Sam. I know, Sam. I know Who is it? SAM IT. I KNOW IT. THERE. OH, I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T KNOW MY NAME. YOU don't Get up here. I'm Greg. Greg. No. Charlie, wait. Charlie Noble, Britney No, what? Come on. See, you do know. Oh, you're sick. THIS IS WHY SAM WAS IN THERE. THAT'S WHY SAM WAS IN THERE WITH THE WRONG ADDRESS. OH MY GOD. >> [screaming] >> SHUT UP. DADDY, DADDY. DADDY. >> [screaming] >> HELP. HELP ME, DADDY. OH MY GOD, HELP ME. DADDY. DADDY, THAT'S YOUR SON, ISN'T IT? THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS WON'T THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T OH MY GOD. PUT YOUR FEET >> DADDY, PLEASE. PUT YOUR FEET DOWN. PLEASE. CALL PHIL right now. Call Call GET PHIL. OH, SAMMY, THIS IS >> [screaming] >> STOP. OH MY GOD. SETTLE DOWN. >> OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD, DADDY. NO. >> [laughter] [screaming] >> GRADES. The Dayton officers receive a C+ procedurally sound mental health blind. The arrest survives constitutional review. The encounter does not survive policy review. Shannon Reef receives a D. Her legal claims were wrong on every count, but her conduct is plausibly explained by psychiatric crisis rather than defiance. The department receives a C pending policy review. Whether a CIT response was even available on this call is the unanswered structural question. Three brief takeaways: For citizens, Miranda does not stop an arrest. The path that protects rights is silence, compliance, and counsel in that order. For officers, probable cause and de-escalation are not opposites. An arrest you can win in court can still be the wrong call on the street. For departments, a written mental health response policy is no longer optional. 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