Bab procedures to call you guys. >> I don't feel bad if she's doing fraud. >> My mind like I don't have nothing to lie about. Like all I want to do right about now is like now I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable. I just want to go home my kids cuz like now I'm starting to >> Well, unfortunately, you're not going to go on to your kids right now, right? Okay. >> Like no lies or none of that. Like I literally have no intense of scing anybody. I literally I go to a night job later tonight. I have literally no type of anything. Like I'm honestly telling the street like the real deal. >> On August 7th, 2024, a woman entered a Sea Coast bank branch in Florida and presented a $9,000 check she claimed arrived by mail from a former employer. Bank employees flagged the instrument as fraudulent, stalled the subject, and called police. What followed raises a question at the core of fraud law. At what point does a victim become a perpetrator? >> And one thing she told me was that all her check starts with a number four. >> This one doesn't have a number four. >> The bank note the >> check number >> the person from like the fact that they're on right now. Yeah. So >> she said that they can positive pay when that comes through in their system. So whoever like if they were to go to let's say Chase right and negotiating there >> once it comes into their system they got positive B so they able to reject those checks but they can see that it's clear of fraud. So she said that this is not the first time that she receives a call fraud going to follow procedures to call you guys. >> I don't feel bad if she's doing fraud. I mean, >> I'm like, oh, you got people sometimes that, you know, >> I mean, if Chuck came to your house, >> I would not >> go to a random CO and be cash like >> No. And funny, we got some even us as employees, we get calls or texts or checks and I'm like, that's fraud. >> Yeah. >> So, but some people just >> on the green everything. Yes. >> She came in. She said that she worked for this company. >> So she said she used to work for them during the pandemic and then during the pandemic they disappeared, >> right? And she received a check from them on the the checks dated the 10 >> and she was like surprised because they disappeared. >> Okay. >> So I was like that's interesting. you know, four years later, they send you a check randomly. Like I said, did they notify you? Did you call them? Like, she said she didn't. She's like, "I was so busy doing other things." >> I didn't. So, she's like, "I just wanted you guys to look at it to make sure it's real so that I can cash it cuz I asked her what she's looking to do with it, right?" And that's what she said. So, as soon as I looked at it, I knew it was fake and I didn't give her any information cuz I don't want her to know what it is exactly where things need to be >> what we look for. >> So, I just said, you know, we're going to go ahead and verify. But, it just her story wasn't I was like, "Is this the amount that you were expecting that they owed you?" And she's like, "Kind of." >> Um, you know, I I make roughly this a week. And she's like, "I'm not really good with >> How could you tell it was fake?" So the >> so to be honest so this right here right it looks like a type like you're typing it on a typewriter or something >> signature >> um this is not supposed to be there it's supposed to be up here >> okay >> memo is not supposed to be there it's supposed to be below here >> right >> and then just the font >> it's just you see how it says date the font it's it's just really >> I mean you have date and then that's like a different font like it's just >> all over the place and then the signature And if you was to see a check from that company, the signature logo close. >> Okay. >> Nowhere near close. >> They have like a logo on the side and all that. So it's >> So as soon as I saw the faded sea coast and the signature card, the sign sorry signature for me it was this, this, and this. >> Okay. >> I kind of gave it away. So you got some letters that are bigger than the others. >> I was like those are the signals that we look for. >> But she she came in today to cash this check. >> Yeah. That was her when I >> wasn't just to like verify if it was fake or not. It was it was to make sure that it was legit and it was also I said what are you looking to do today? I said to cast it. I think I put >> verifying. Hold on. Yeah. So, uh she said that she thought it was odd that she received it but wanted us to verify it in order to cash. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Perfect. >> Yeah. But she 100% >> said she was going to cash it or wanted to cash it. You know, that's kind of where it was. >> So, that's why I said like I did some calculations myself to see. >> All right. >> What it was. >> One second. I got to read you your rights first so we can talk. >> And I'm getting arrested. >> You're not in handcuffs. >> But for us to talk as law enforcement, if we have a question about a crime, I have to read you your rights, right? >> You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? >> Yes. >> Anything you say may be used against you in court. Do you understand? >> Yes, sir. >> You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? >> Yes. >> If you cannot afford a lawyer and want one, one will be provided for you before questioning without charge. Do you understand? >> Yes. >> All right. So, where did you work? >> Nordstrom. >> No, no, no, no. Where this check came from? >> What it says on the paper, it was at it was on Sand Lake and it was with >> How long did you work at this company? >> A couple years ago. But how long did you work there? >> A year before the pandemic. >> So I've worked at places for just a few months and I still remember where I worked. >> No, I mean I know I worked but I'm saying like it was with it was call center. It was a call center job >> for >> um O CVS and what was the gas company? They all was in one building. >> What gas company? >> A gas company in up north. >> Who gave you the check? >> It was mailed to me. >> It was mailed to you >> with no other paperwork. Correct. >> No other paperwork, sir. >> Who is your direct supervisor? >> My supervisor was Michael. >> Michael what? >> Well, I had two of them. One was Michael, then the other one was um I don't remember the other Michael's name, but one was a supervisor and the other one was a manager. I don't remember the managers got sick cuz I didn't stick around long enough to Well, I was I didn't stick around long enough, but you only meet the ones you kind of associate with. >> Mhm. >> And he was a manager. >> Super hot. >> Can you have his phone number? >> Yes. >> It's way too many numbers. >> That's the number on the text app. now cuz we use that's what they was using and I I left it in my text number. >> I'm not texting WhatsApp. >> It's a WhatsApp number. >> Mhm. >> Do you have texts with that person? >> Not no more. I just have them when I when I try to call it. >> You have no texts through WhatsApp right now? >> No. This text that I text is is like my actual phone number. >> Can I see? This is the my text now. Not text now. My text messages. And um >> what did that one say? Something about a bank. >> That's my cousin. This one is my cousin. The bank. They're going to wire me money to my bank. >> Is that something totally different? >> Totally different. >> So where's the What's >> this one? See, that's the number. >> Can you open it? >> And these are all the messages here. >> And this is with >> Michael. >> Mhm. >> Can I see that? >> But I'm not going to lie to you. I do. We're in a relationship. Well, was in a relationship. So, some of it, you know, when he did call me babe, whatever. And then I just texted I was like, "How did the company send a fake check?" And he's like, he thought we cashed it weeks ago. And I was like, "I didn't cuz I didn't have time. I was working." Like, I'm literally telling you the 100% truth. Like, I have nothing to do with any fraud stuff. None of that. What's your name? >> Hm. >> What's your name? >> My name Ashley. I can even dial the number for you. And I text him today and I said, "Hey, they said that the check is fake." that I was like, "How did you I was about to tell hey like hey you got a text I mean you know the checks and stuff like that as of today like you see today's text message I said hey they sent a check that's fake cuz he got one too and other companies like I told you other employees they got one so I'm letting him know like hey you know don't go through the same thing that I'm going through now. So, I'm literally telling the truth 100%. I I literally have nothing to hide. I I never been in this predicament before. >> All right. Have a seat. >> My name is Carlos. Nice to meet you. What's your last name? >> Have a seat. Sit down. Relax. This is even more stressful because I don't really deal with a lot, right? They read your rights already. Okay. You ever had your rights read to you before or is it the first time? >> This is the first time. That's what I said. I never been arrested. I had anything to do with no type of fraud stuff. >> Okay. >> Like this never. >> So, what happened today? I know you it seems like you probably already detailed that I am, but just so you can catch me up on game so I know what's going on. >> Last month, I got a check by mail from the company that I used to work for. um >> last month. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What was the name of the company? >> It was um I don't know the name. I just know it was a call center, but they had closed down >> when the pandemic hit and we was working from home, but then >> they kind of been not going to say destro. >> Okay. >> But >> how long did you work there? >> A year. >> A year. >> 6 months to a year before the pandemic came around. >> Okay. So, >> and you don't remember the name of the company? >> No, not I'm sorry. It's just I I worked so many jobs after that just trying to stay up with >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> bills, everything. Um Okay. >> But >> you got direct deposit from them or did you get paid by check from them? >> From them. I got direct deposit. That was like a long time ago with an old bank. >> Okay. So, you don't bank with that bank? >> I don't bank with Chase no more. >> Okay. So when you work for them, you bank with Chase? >> Yes. >> You had direct deposit from them via Chase? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um then after enough that job, I went and started working. I didn't go to McDonald's right away. >> Mhm. >> I applied for McDonald's, but they said I don't have the qualification skills. So I went >> really? Wow. Okay. Okay. So, I went to SeaWorld. Got hired at SeaWorld Universal and um >> So, who you banking now? >> Additional Finance. >> Okay. So, from Chase, you went to Additional Finance or >> No, I went to like a different bank after I went to one of those. >> Why you keep moving banks? >> Cuz like >> I had Chase Bank since I was in high school. me it was like >> you know >> well first I started with Bank America and then >> you know they start talking about how Bank America is scamming people and stuff and that's why I moved to Chase. >> Okay. And then my understanding is the check that you came to cash today was from this employee that you used to work at that you don't remember the name. >> No I don't I mean yes but >> I worked at several jobs. I'm not a type of person to scam anybody. Like I ain't never listen. I don't think you're the type of person that's gonna scam anybody. >> But I have had co-workers hitting me up on Facebook. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And they was like, "Hey, do you remember the company we used to work for?" Like >> I was like, "Girl, I don't remember half the places I worked." I was like, "Well, sure. What about it?" And they were like, "Oh, well, they sent me a check for $7,000." I was like, "Oh, okay. That's >> kudos for you." I mean, I don't really need it cuz >> I'm making ends meets with the two little jobs that I got. Even though it's still a little struggle >> that I might have to pick up a third job when summer starts. I mean, summer ends. >> But other than that, like, you know, I just been, you know, working, >> making it work, >> living from paycheck to paycheck, basically. >> Okay. >> You know, >> that way you work for the company that's on a check that you don't remember the name. Um, who was the manager there? Who was your supervisor? My supervisor was Michael. >> And did you work directly for that company? >> Yes. >> Got kids. >> Two kids. >> Yeah. >> How old are they? >> Seven and eight. >> Seven and eight. Where they at right now? >> My aunt's house. And I'm going to go get them from her house cuz they was playing with her kids. >> Okay. Uh you dropped you were you over there? You dropped them off and then came here or >> No, I think we all played. She's a single parent. I'm a single parent. So, we kind of hand in hand best friends. It's just >> one weekend she'll babysit, >> one weekend I'll babysit just to give us some free time. >> So, let's talk about the check. What's the deal with the check? You said you got it in the mail. >> I got it in the mail just like everybody else that reached out to me on social media. >> Well, one girl called me through social media and she was like um >> just bragging about the check >> pretty much. She I guess she didn't have my direct phone number. >> So she called me through social media >> and she was like, "Hey, remember the company you saw?" I was like, "Girl, I don't remember half the things I did >> before the pandemic or even during the pandemic." >> And she was like, "Um, well the company they sent us they sent me a check." And I'm like, >> "Okay." Was like, "For what?" And she was like, "Remember when we worked and they had shut down?" >> Mhm. all of this that and third. I was like oh I was like okay. I was like well was it worth you know I was like she was like the check was $7,800 and I was like >> I was like okay. I was like no like hey good for you type vibe. >> Mhm. >> That's what I was kind of telling her and then she was like um she was like yeah >> what friend is that? >> Jessica. >> Jessica. You got her the phone number? >> No. [ __ ] What's her last name? >> I don't even know her last name. I'm not even going to lie. >> You got it on social media. Can you pull it up on your social media? >> But to be honest, I think she blocked me cuz I think she kind of felt jealous. >> No. I don't I don't know cuz I might have to go back to try to call her when I got mine. I couldn't find her. But >> how long after she had got hers did you get yours? >> Three weeks later. >> 3 weeks later. >> So she got one. I want to see >> when you were when you worked for this company, did they owe you any money? >> We were supposed to get paid one more check or at least No, between one to two more checks. >> One to two more checks >> because we did work from home. >> Mhm. >> Um when they shut the office and stuff down because >> How much did you get paid when you were there? >> 15 >> $15 an hour. >> $15 an hour. You work 40 hours a week >> and then we got paid every two weeks. >> Every two weeks. So about roughly How much was that? Sometimes my checks will be at 9 then sometimes my checks will be roughly around 8 >> 100. Okay. >> And then sometimes my check will be like 990. >> Okay. So it's fair to say if you were owed >> two months two months worth of money >> at 1,800 bucks a month on the high end >> without Yeah. Without >> You're still at 3,600 bucks if you were owed money. >> Yes. >> It's probably not going to be 9,000. But that's exactly what I said when I calculations. >> Yeah, that don't add up. >> It didn't add up. So, I'm like, "Okay, let me let me see here." Like, um, >> did you call the company? >> I tried. It was the number I had tried to call was no longer service. >> When did you try to call them? >> The days after I got the check. >> Okay. And which was when? A month ago. And then after that, I just been busy moving and working my jobs and trying to just stay afloat. I kind of was like, well, you know, even with friends of mine, so I'm not going to say friends. Let's just >> So you've been trying to stay afloat. >> Basically, >> you've been working, hustling, and you got this $9,000 check a month ago, >> but yet you don't you don't think let me go cash this check to help me out? No, I I've been doing it, you know, now like, >> you know what I mean? >> Mhm. >> On my own with a >> kind of kind of know what you mean. >> Just stretching out my paychecks, you know, from here and there. So, >> this is me as a reasonable person. If I'm owed some money and I'm stretching my paychecks out, living paycheck to paycheck, right? It's a reasonable person here now and I get a check that's owed to me for $9,000, I'm cashing that baby right away. Right. Right. But I mean I I didn't think nothing of it because I was kind of skeptical about cashing checks anyways. >> So I was like no. And then I you know I talked to my family members and you know >> um family members and other associates that got theirs. I was like did that check was like legit? And it was like >> yeah and some never responded. Mhm. >> So, you skeptical about the check? >> I just kind of just pushed it to the side cuz I had a lot. >> Why? Why were you skeptical about the check? >> Because >> was it the way that it looked? >> Yeah. >> Looking at this check, right? Using everything that you pointed out to me, right, it's probably fair to say this is a fake check. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Right. >> That's why I didn't That's why I didn't bother to go to my bank. I came directly to this bank to say, "Hey, can you guys verify you guys's check >> and let me know like, hey, if it's magic, whatever, and go from there." >> Okay. Um, all right. I appreciate you talking with me, but now I have a couple questions for you. Okay? And this is where I just want you to be truthful with me at this point. cuz you ain't been 100%. And that's okay cuz I I got a quick memory. It happened. It's gone. I ain't worried about it anymore. Okay. But I am worried about you at this point cuz someone got you in here cashing a check that you know. Okay. Hold on. I'm talking about this. >> I want to take my vitamin. That's why I kind of was like I brushed it off. I was going to shred it myself, but like I said, >> yeah, >> other co-workers and friends and not family, but they saw it like family. Oh, yeah. It's a legit check, cash, you know, I had my money type, whatever. >> But but you you and I both looked at this check and you just told me that it was fake pretty much. >> Yes. >> I I spoke to the teller and he said you can't check. >> No, I didn't. I told her, I said, "I was really skeptical about this check that I got in the mail from the company." >> And you just pointed out to me multiple different reasons and multiple different things about the check that you knew was fake. Why are you coming here anyway telling you that? >> Because like I said, >> because of other employees that I used to work with. >> Okay. You trying to cover up this is not going to go well for you. You are a person with no criminal history when children are way on you. Who are you talking to on the phone? >> Michael and this text me. I say, "Hey, the company that you said for the check and I said they sent that check." >> Yeah. >> They said, "Didn't you pass the check?" I said, "No, cuz he asked me if I passed the check." When I got it, I said no because I've been so busy working. What? Whatever. >> What number is this? >> That's the WhatsApp number. That's how I communicate with him. >> Is this the person who >> works with the company? Well, >> is this the person who sent you the check? >> Yes, we both used cuz clearly at the bottom right there, you can see what he said, I'll send a check for your expenses. >> What does this person have you doing? Tell tell me the the rundown. >> This is Michael. We both used to work at the company together. Not that company, but the call center. And he was telling me that he'll help me pay for my expenses because I was telling him that I was having little problems, you know, minor work. They didn't get me down on my vehicle. And he was like, "Okay, nothing. Don't worry. I got you. I'll send you a check by mail. You can cash it. And then like as of today, you can clearly see right here, like right here, when I had told him, I was like, "Hey, the check that you sent me." I was like, when I told him here, I was like, "Hey, the check that you got, the check that you got and you sent >> I don't see what you're saying." Where? >> No, >> you're saying something that's not on the phone. So, how do I'm cashing the check that you sent me? Yeah, >> you're saying you got a month to go buy this company and now it's from this Michael guy, >> which we both used to work for the same >> who doesn't work at the company because I already talked to the company. >> They finally have a day off. Ah, what the hell? The check is not real. >> What do you mean? Well, you knew the check wasn't real cuz you explained it to me, which is why you've been holding on to it for a month. >> And this number is like an overseas phone number. >> That's the reason why we had literally we really like, you know. >> Have you ever seen this person in your life? Yes, we used to work together. >> How do you know that's the same person? >> Because he knows my kid's name and he called months ago for one of my kids birthday. >> Okay. And then once you cash this check, what were you supposed to do with the phone? >> It was supposed to take care of my expenses. >> Expenses for what? >> Whatever I knew about the house or my my car needed to get repaired, but I got that done. Mhm. >> So, I'm literally telling you the truth. I have nothing to do with any [ __ ] >> So, this guy gave you a check to cover your expenses that you don't even know who this is. It can be anybody's anybody's name. >> You used to work together at the >> m like I don't have nothing to lie about. All I want to do right about now is like now I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable. I just want to go over my kids cuz like now I'm starting right. >> Well, Unfortunately, you're not going to go on to your kids right now, >> right? >> Okay. >> Because he just tried to catch her. >> I didn't try to catch anything. I literally came here accidentally. You can even go get her. I asked her to verify >> and then you told me to check from this country. >> Yes. >> Now you're telling me to check from this guy that has some overseas phone number that you're saying is Michael that you've never seen this person. >> I've seen him before. How do you know that's Michael? >> Because he said he couldn't use his phone cuz he's overseas. And then after that, that's literally the reason why. I'm telling you the truth, >> like no lies, no none of that. Like I literally have no intent of scing anybody. I literally I go to a night job later tonight. I have literally no type of anything. Like I'm honestly telling the truth, like the real deal. Like I literally came here and asked the lady can she verify this because I said I don't want to take it to my bank because like I'm a little skeptical about my you know my institution that I fake with because babe >> well the issue was you knew the track is fake >> but I didn't cash it though that's the thing I asked the lady can she verify I say hey I I literally you can go and get her >> okay >> cuz I literally said I said hey can you please verify this cuz I said I am being with and I was like I'm a little skeptical because um a check came in the mail from a company that I used to work for years ago that closed down and I was like this these numbers don't add up and I was like I didn't even want to go to my bank and cash. I even told her I called up here and I said hey I have a check my mail from you guys's bank. >> Mhm. >> She said you just have to bring the check in. >> Yeah. >> Like so I didn't do nothing wrong. I didn't even say cash the check. I know your ex had to verify it and you ready to do that. >> Okay, I'm just going to swear to you real quick just to verify. I hope you tell me the truth. Okay, so just raise your right hand. >> You sorry swear a friend of the testimony you just gave in this case was the truth. The whole truth know nothing about the truth. >> Yes, that's the whole truth. I'm so serious. I never been arrested for I never had anything to do with anything. And it's just like it's really difficult for me to even try to process this because it's like I never had to to do any of this before. >> All right. >> Can I call my mom first? >> I'm sure we can we can go ahead and contact her. >> No, I'm going to contact her and let her know, please. >> Oh, >> can I can I please call her? >> We'll call her in a sec. Say, >> I'm telling the truth. You guys don't even have to arrest me. >> Can I get the card, please? >> I'll show you how to call my phone, please. >> At this point, you're going to be able to say, >> "Let's examine the constitutional framework." At approximately 4 minutes 50 seconds into the encounter, the officer administered Miranda warnings before substantive questioning began. Under Miranda versus Arizona 384 U S436 1966, law enforcement must advise a suspect of constitutional rights before conducting a custodial interrogation. The subject was not yet handcuffed. However, under the totality of circumstances test established in Burkimer versus McCarti 468 US 420 1984, a reasonable person in her position confined in a bank office under active police investigation would not have felt free to leave. This satisfies the custody threshold. Miranda applied. The officer's proactive advisement was legally correct. The subject waved her rights and agreed to speak, a waiver that rendered all subsequent statements admissible. The central charge uttering a forged instrument under Florida statute section 831.02 requires three elements. First, the instrument must be forged or counterfeit. Second, the defendant must utter or present it as genuine. Third, and most contested here, the defendant must act knowing the instrument to be false with intent to defraud. Florida courts have held that knowledge may be proven circumstantially. Direct confession is not required. A jury may infer knowledge from conduct surrounding circumstances and the defendant's own statements. In this case, the subject's own admissions supplied that inference. She identified multiple physical defects in the check before presenting it. Inconsistent font formatting, misplaced signature and memo lines, and a check number that did not match the issuing company's known series. She stated the check amount $9,000 did not reconcile with wages she would have been owed approximately 800 to90 bi-weekly. She described herself as skeptical before approaching the bank. Under Florida standard jury instructions, this is textbook circumstantial knowledge. The defense argument that the subject came to verify, not cash, has genuine statutory footing. Section 831.02 requires intent to defraud at the moment of utterance. Presenting a check for authentication, not in cashment, arguably lacks that intent. However, the bank teller's contemporaneous account directly contradicted this claim. The teller documented that the subject's stated purpose was to cash the instrument. This created a direct credibility conflict teller's contemporaneous record versus subjects postmiranda account which the prosecution relied upon to proceed. A secondary issue emerged from the WhatsApp communications reviewed by officers. The check did not originate from a defunct employer. It was sent by an overseas contact communicating via an international WhatsApp number who had been cultivating a romantic relationship with the subject. The contact had explicitly stated, "I'll send a check for your expenses." This is consistent with the advanced fee romance scam model documented by the FBI. Under the FBI Internet Crime Complaint Cent's 2023 annual report, romance scam losses in the United States exceeded $1.3 billion, the largest fraud category by dollar amount reported. Operators routinely exploit personal familiarity, names of children, significant dates to manufacture the appearance of a legitimate relationship before introducing fraudulent financial instruments. The subject's belief that the overseas contact was a known former colleague, does not, as a matter of law, negate knowledge of the checks falsity, she had already identified the instrument as suspect on its face. The origin of that instrument was a separate question from its authenticity. Officer Thomas receives a grade of B+. The Miranda adisement was administered correctly, proactively, and at the legally appropriate moment before any custodial questioning began. Interview technique was methodical. The officer allowed the subject to construct her narrative before systematically exposing its inconsistencies with the physical evidence. No coercion, deception, or improper tactics were employed. The arrest was conducted without unnecessary force. The informal oath administered near the encounter's conclusion, while a recognized psychological interview technique carries no formal evidentiary weight and risks confusing a jury about the distinction between sworn and unsworn testimony. This is a minor procedural concern. The subject receives a grade of C plus. Her cooperation was genuine. and she waved Miranda, provided phone access, and did not physically resist arrest. These factors likely contributed to the downward departure at sentencing. However, her initial misrepresentation framing the check as from a former employer rather than from an overseas romantic contact materially damaged her credibility. Her own statements established pre-existing knowledge of the instruments defects. Combined with a one-month delay between receipt and presentation, the prosecution's case was sound. The outcome, 2 years probation under Florida statute section 82.014. 014 reflects the court's apparent recognition of the mitigating circumstances surrounding her exploitation by an international fraud operator. Three legal lessons emerge from this encounter. First, never present a financial instrument you believe to be fraudulent, even for the stated purpose of verification. Under Florida law, the act of presenting constitutes utterance. Intent may be inferred from conduct regardless of stated purpose. Second, an unsolicited check from any source, especially one routed through anonymous messaging applications from overseas contacts, should be reported to law enforcement or surrendered directly to the issuing bank as suspected fraud, not presented for encachment or verification by the recipient. Third, waving Miranda rights following a formal advisement, is almost never in a suspect's legal interest. Every statement made in this encounter, including admissions that directly proved the knowledge element of the offense was admissible because the subject chose to speak. Invoking the right to counsel at the moment of advisement would have ended the interrogation and preserved all available defenses. Let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic you would like us to discuss in the comments below. Thank you for watching and don't forget to check out our second channel, Audit the Court, for even more police interaction and courtroom content.