Uh >> that we can film here. So, we're just waiting to film. We're going to get a drone to hold our defense. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we got her permission. >> We're doing a huge GoFundMe and stuff. >> Yeah. >> We have permission from this house, that orange house. >> Yeah, they're also they said we were good to film there, too. So, we're just >> They said we were allowed all over them that property. >> areas. We're just trying to get this GoFundMe going. >> Um, it's a legit GoFundMe. >> What's it What's it for? Sorry. >> Uh, we're getting back uh this money for this family. Um, let me pull up the GoFundMe. It's a real It's a real GoFundMe. Um >> I don't know. >> No, it's real. Uh >> Yeah, do you want to hold this for a second? >> Uh >> Okay, cool. >> Do you want me to hold it? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Who are we FaceTiming? >> Uh Oh, [ __ ] Yeah, I know. >> Ben, right? >> Uh Yeah. >> Okay, why'd you hang up so fast? >> Huh? Oh, I don't He He hadn't been on the phone in forever. >> That's not true. So, >> But yeah, so here's the GoFundMe. We got 10 bucks of 28,000. That's our goal. >> Can I express some concern? >> Sure. >> So, I know who Ben is. I know the situation. I know the situation with this guy, the YouTube, the LEGOs. I know all that. >> Okay. >> Um, he was arrested for stalking, okay? >> Yeah. >> You know that. Um, he's paying you guys to be here. I know that, too. >> not paying us. >> Um, he can't It maybe would be better if he Where is he at? I know he just left, too. >> Uh >> Um >> I have no idea. >> Okay. >> The problem we're running into is you guys are slowly becoming an accessory for stalking. >> Yes. >> So, you guys can be arrested for that. >> Okay. >> So, we're We've kind of got to the face point where Yeah. Okay. >> Well, but if we get this off and get the drone shot of it, it's going to look good, and then we'll take it all down, and then we'll Yeah, that's how we're going to we're going to cuz we can't you know, we're not going to do the the the lawsuit anymore. We're just going to do this GoFundMe. We've already got it started. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, and Okay. >> I'm all for GoFundMe's. I'm all for a support on it. Like, what you guys are doing, none of my business, but you have to understand we're not stupid, either. I know you're FaceTiming Ben. I know he's having you do this, and cool. If that's what he's doing, then cool, but I'm just I guess this is like he explained, you don't want to be caught up in this. Ben doesn't want to go to jail again. We don't want to arrest him again. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> That's not what we want to do. Obviously, we have to do our job. >> Yeah, absolutely. I know you guys are doing your job. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I believe you, but, you know, >> Yeah. It is. >> Yeah. >> Cool. >> So, I mean, we you know, we've invested a lot in this GoFundMe already. >> and I think it's going to be a huge success between >> guys are aware we we also may have a city ordinance regarding posting signage. So we're going to look into that before we leave. Um I realize that this is on private property but it is on the sidewalk so we have to look at that. Okay. Not to not to hustle you guys too much but >> Yeah no you're fine. >> We've got to make sure that A no laws are being broken and B nobody's going to be injured or in trouble or anything. >> Yeah absolutely. Absolutely. None of that will happen. >> Maybe give Officer Richardson a moment to check with the owner of the fence. >> Yeah. >> Hang out with us for a moment while we sort of sort of sort of >> Can you address him? How we doing today? >> Good. >> Good. Um >> They explained about um GoFundMe. So I just said >> Yeah I'll just check it. >> I don't know what >> No it's it's up it's up to you. Um I they just said they have your permission. I was just checking with you and it sounds like they do have your permission. Cool. Thank you. Is he nice? >> Yeah. >> Hi Fluffy. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I don't know what's going on but hopefully >> I appreciate >> program stream the car. >> This street is on the sign. >> Oh, I agree. I think we have probably something here. >> go first? >> No, it's fine. Let's talk about it. I I think so. Whether it's the stalking stuff that we're looking at, we got to look at that one. We might have a sign on this car, too. >> But But this guy's being reasonable. Maybe he'll take it off. >> reasonable. She's like, "Yeah, they explained it all to me." And I said, "Okay." >> I don't want anything like I don't want to hang her up on anything. >> But did she say they could put it on this? >> Yeah. She's like, "Yeah, they explained it all to me." And I asked if they could use my sign. So, I said, "Yeah, cool." >> But does she know what's on there? >> I doubt it. >> Okay. >> Um he was FaceTiming Ben. He was on FaceTime. >> Yes. Yeah. Do you want to go and look at the code and verify for stalking to make sure that that's not a new direct contact. And then let me just make sure she knows what's on the sign. Is that cool? >> Yeah. I >> Will you play >> I haven't even read the sign, so >> Yeah, it's it's on there. His face is on there. They're going to elect him into office. They're going to call him >> We're into this. >> Yeah. So, what do you want me to make sure with this? >> Go look at the Go look at the stalking. Have him start collecting it all for the other people, and then we'll go with that. >> Have this guy collect Oh, Neil. >> Yeah. >> Kind of funny. Will you check Will you do me a favor? I'm going to check the stalking code. Will you check with these guys on the corner and see if they're okay with So, let me check. Let me check with these guys. Sorry, who was I talking to? You, passenger side. Sorry. Um this follow-up question. With them, what were they involved with? >> With who? >> These on the corner. Sorry, they said >> They they gave us permission to film there as well. So, they had nothing to >> Oh, like film on their property? >> Okay, cool. >> Cool. That was my question. Thanks, guys. >> Yeah, no problem. >> Will you just check with them and make sure that they did get permission to film on their property? We also that our RP is very disgruntled, so >> Hey, Cole, just so you're aware, there's a truck store 29's for a different van. It's a different >> Mhm. >> All right. Can I have you hop out real quick? Thanks, dude. Okay. I'm just going to kind of explain where I'm at right now, okay? >> Okay. >> And this is I think this is in the best interest of you, okay? >> Okay. >> So, you know Ben, right? >> Yeah. >> Um so, I think we can agree we both know Ben was arrested for certain things. >> Yeah. >> Um I know you're on the phone with Ben. >> Yeah. >> Him sending you here and him having >> send me here. I'm here on my own accord. >> Okay. We going to I'll I'll get to that in a minute. >> Yeah. >> Um but just that taking place is another another charge for him. >> Right. But this was all my idea. All of this was because of me. Ben, I just called him because he's my friend, but >> Okay. >> he's done dealing with this. I took over the case cuz he doesn't want to get in any more trouble. He's actually got to fly home tomorrow. >> sense. Why are you FaceTiming Ben? >> I was just telling him uh like >> look what I'm doing for your guy. >> I know. >> Okay. >> Uh I was just seeing what he was doing. I mean, it was just completely uh completely I guess irrelevant to what was going on. >> Okay. >> So, there's not going to be any text message corroboration between you and him stating that he wanted to come out here to post this for you. >> No. >> Is that okay if we look? >> No. >> It is not. >> Okay. >> So, we're going to give you a Miranda warning because right now what you're doing is illegal. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, what what you're doing is you're in violation of the law cuz right now Ben is probably breaking the law. But, we don't know what you're involved in. If we determine that you're involved, that could implicate you. If we determine that you're not involved or you're cooperating with us and we see that it's Ben and it's not you, >> But, it wasn't Ben. It was me. >> I'm just telling you before we give you a Miranda warning. >> Yeah. >> Okay? Cuz there's a lot of ways this could go. And I'm not going to coerce you or scare you or threaten you, but cuz you were on your phone and Officer Griffith assumes and believes that you were FaceTiming Ben while you were hanging a sign across from the guy's house who Ben just got arrested for, we can appeal we can we can request a search warrant >> Yeah. >> for your phone, which means we seize your phone. >> Yeah, for sure. >> And if we get into your phone and we find out that you were lying to us, you can be arrested for this offense as well. >> Yeah, for sure. >> And that's the problem. However, if you cooperate with us and you show us and you confirm that you're not involved and this was all your idea, >> Yeah. >> then we we're probably going to be parting ways and you'll end up with your phone. >> Okay. >> Does that under Do you understand all of that? >> Okay. >> And sorry, it's not even that I believe you were calling Ben. You also just told me that that was Ben. So, >> Yeah. >> Um >> It's just suspicious to us and because we think there's a law broken here, we're trying to get to the bottom of it. >> That makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you have any questions before we start this? Okay. I'm just going to advise you of your rights, all right? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. If you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present, you will still have the right to stop answering your questions at any time and speak to an attorney. >> Do you understand your rights? >> Yeah. >> Okay. With these rights in mind, uh do you still wish to talk with me? >> No. >> No? Okay. Um and Lieutenant Lieutenant Adamson can correct me if I'm wrong, but we're going to seize your phone right now. Don't. Do not do that. >> Yeah, for sure. >> You understand me? Right now you're you're attempting to destroy evidence. Okay? Put your hands behind your back. That's a worse charge than what you're looking at. >> locking my phone. >> No. No. You're not. No. No. >> Yeah, I was. I was just locking my phone. >> I don't think so. I don't think so. >> And it's on my Look, it's on my credit card. >> But when you quickly grab it after I told you >> to grab the phone and we told you that the phone is >> Stop talking. Stop talking, okay? That's a problem. >> It's on my money. It's on my wallet. >> But but this is a problem is when when I when I reach for the phone and you quickly pull it away, that makes me believe that you're that you're potentially trying to >> the lock button. >> I'm not going to manipulate I'm not going to. I'm not going to do any of that. I'm not going to manipulate this phone at all. But right now this phone is being seized as part of this investigation and you're being you're being arrested, okay? But put him in the back of the car. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> I'm going to search him up against my car. Okay, widen your stance. Do you have anything on you that's going to hurt, stick, or poke me? >> No. >> Any contraband of any kind? >> No. >> Let me call the detective. >> Yeah, I swear, man, I was going to give you the phone. I was just locking it. That's all I was doing. Well, why would I I wouldn't I mean, it's my phone, you know what I mean? I mean, you need it. Also, Yeah, I was just locking my phone. That's all I was doing. It was off of my wallet. That's all I was doing. >> Do you have anything under this, like a shirt? >> Yeah. >> Do you shirt Does your shirt have pockets? >> No. >> Okay. Okay, will you take a step back to the 10 items in for a minute? >> Hey, do you have a detective that can help Okay. >> Everything else that I got from you is going in these. Okay. Um Do we agree that this is what it was in your pockets? So, I'm going to take these for a minute. >> Yeah. >> Are these prescription? >> No. >> They're recording, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um what do you want me to do? I can leave them recording? >> Yeah, leave them recording. >> putting in the bag. Okay. If they die from battery, um obviously I can't help that, right? Yeah, I'm not going to charge them, but um leave them recording though, you said, okay? >> Yeah. >> Okay, will you come over here? >> Yeah. >> Okay, take a seat and hang out, okay? >> Yep. >> I'm I Hey. I'm going to get them all out and see if they're all on accomplice. >> Just give them the Miranda warning and ask if they even know Scheiger or if you guys can follow him. >> Hi. Sorry. Um I'll wait for this car to pass. >> So >> So, I'm just going to be real with you guys. >> Uh-huh. >> Um I I want all of you out. I'm just going to talk with you. I promise none of you go to jail if you don't be stupid like him, okay? Um This I just want a conversation. Well, unfortunately, he's an adult, so I can't really air out his business. >> All right. >> It really is a conversation and it like obviously you can record. You all can record if you want. >> Oh, sorry. Yeah. >> I'm I'm recording, too, so I'm going to put it on my YouTube. Um are you guys all How old are you guys? >> 20. >> 20? Okay. Um I'm not going to talk with you. That's fine. Um we'll just go to the sidewalk. >> Hey, TJ, if you want you can just sit down on >> I'll just I'll just sit. >> Okay. Um I'm just going to advise you guys of your Miranda rights simultaneously, okay? This does not mean you're going to jail. I just have some questions, okay? Um is that cool with you as well? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. >> Yes, sir. >> If you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present, you will still have the right to stop answering questions at any time until you speak to an attorney. Do you understand these rights? >> Yes, sir. >> You read them? >> Yes. >> Okay. With these rights in mind, do you guys want to talk with me? >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah? Okay. Um It's very simple. I don't know how in on it you guys are as Like are we all up to date the same as this gentleman is? I guess. About about Ben and his issue with this neighbor is why we're here, right? >> Mhm. >> Um So do we know about Ben's criminal charges? Anything like that? >> I'm not sure. >> Nothing? >> Yeah, I do. >> You do? Okay. You do You do not? >> Okay. What would bring you here? >> Um I'm just neutral to them. I could I've been kind of >> He's helping out with the fundraiser. >> I just wasn't here yesterday. >> Okay. >> I guess she was telling me I don't know like I guess I don't know the details about that. >> Okay. >> But I know he got arrested. >> Are you here on your own accord or are you being paid? >> I mean I'm just I'm on my I'm on my >> Okay. So you're not making any money to be here. Cool. Okay. What about you? >> No, I'm not making any money here. >> any money. Okay. Um you did say you are aware of Ben's charges and stuff. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Has Is Has Ben instructed you to be here? Nothing? >> No, I'm here on my own accord. >> Okay. What would that be? >> Um like I just want to like help out in any way I can with this family who got robbed. >> Mhm. Got you. >> Like $200,000. >> Oh wow. That's a lot of money. >> And if I can like I found this I found the whole story on a Reddit post. Maybe like 6 half a year ago. >> Okay. >> So when he mentioned he was working on this I was like oh that's it. I like know about that from already online. >> Okay. >> It kind of went around on like Reddit and stuff and Facebook. I'm about the whole case not with Ben specifically just the whole case in general. I was like oh dang that's like that's wild and stuff. And I I know the story is I I've been on a couple of trips with him so I was like oh I know this I know the story that's that's wild and like that's why I was like oh maybe you know I was like I'd like to see how this goes and stuff. Um so like I said that's why I you know I don't feel obligated to be involved in that but it's like oh I know about this case already. I would be just the whole case in general with Ben stealing $200,000 worth of Legos and stuff and etc. >> Got you. Okay. That makes sense. Um is that kind of the same for you? >> Yeah. >> Just saw it on Reddit or something? >> Yeah, I just saw it and I thought it was really like really dumb how he got all that money stolen from him. >> Mhm. >> And then Ben being like you know the YouTuber he is he investigates raw stuff. I do content for those so you know content content. >> Got you. >> just >> Okay. >> in the content world con creators you know you work together and >> Understandable. Completely understandable. Um and this this is hard for me, okay? Cuz there's two things to this. I have my job that I have to do, right? Right now, I don't think you guys broke the law. No intention of hamming any of you up with anything. But, on the other hand, I understand protest. Like, I get Is this Are we calling this a protest? >> It's a fundraiser. >> Fundraiser? >> Yeah, do you have a photo of me like publicly >> That's the picture in our GoFundMe, so that's why we took it. >> That or the giant one? Yeah, I took it cuz it's in the commission of a crime right now. Because of Ben. Because of Ben. If you So, here's how this works. If you guys do this on your own accord, >> Uh-huh. >> um, which I believe you. I believe you as well. He already told me this isn't on his own accord, so maybe you guys are on the same page. Um, this is just going to keep going bad for Ben because he has I'm not I can't tell you his charges, he's an adult, but he has specific charges around this address, this person. That means he cannot have people come here on his behalf. He cannot contact neighbors on his behalf or this person, things like that. So, he's kind of Do we know this guy either? >> No, I don't know. >> This is This is so This is I've never done this before. I've never had cuz in the last week I've had so many people with cameras and >> Yeah, kind of a weird situation, huh? >> It's unique. >> Even for me. >> I'm probably going to be on YouTube and I'm going to be one of those YouTube cops. >> Yeah, dude. [laughter] You should Yep, yep. The way you're acting is great. >> That really sucks. That's cool. >> Dude, you're one of the from I've had many encounters with cops the past couple days, but this whole thing you're like very very >> Yeah. >> Okay, well, that's my goal. I don't want to I don't want to upset anybody. I did want to ask you your relationship with Ben. Obviously, if you want to be friends with Ben, that's cool. Like, he's probably a good guy, I don't know him. But, as far as this place, this is kind of just like maybe a food for thought moment. Let's steer clear of this incident cuz it's going to spread to other people and people are going to go to jail. He's going to jail for obstruction right now. >> So, what was his like or what's his charge? He's >> Obstruction of justice right now. >> And what does that specifically mean in this case? >> So, unfortunately, I can't disclose that right now. Um Yeah, just cuz he's an adult. If I could tell you I would, but he made certain decisions just barely that led to that. So, yes. Um That's what I said we didn't have to have a hard conversation. You guys were being super cool. Like this is super easy, right? Um he was not as that, so Does that make sense to everybody? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Do you guys have any questions for me or anything I can help you out with? >> Um no, I guess I guess not. Um Yeah. >> Yeah, I I feel like we're at a like a point where we like don't really know what to do now, so >> It's hard because I >> It's like we tried to serve him papers the other day and that's how I know Ben was arrested. >> Who served him? >> Um >> Cuz you guys Okay, cuz that's one thing. Ben should not be serving his own papers. >> Yeah, I was going to serve it cuz Ben doesn't know me, you know, I'm my >> You should call a Utah County deputy to serve him. >> A deputy? >> Yeah. >> Or even we can serve him. >> Uh-huh. >> Like don't serve him. That's probably a better idea. >> he just doesn't want the papers? >> Then it's a civil issue. There's nothing really I can do with it. >> Then it's on our hands again. >> It's not really on your hands. How are you involved? >> Well, I was serving the papers yesterday, so >> So, it's not really on It's not really on your hands. Um I will say this, I don't know Ben. There's always two sides to every story. You know Ben's story. You don't know anything about this guy. Anything about any of like what actually happened. Um just like I don't know the full details, so I mean two sides, but that's where I'm at today, okay? Does that make sense? >> It locked. >> Great. Does that make sense? >> We talked to the other guy. >> Okay. You guys are free to go. >> Thank you so much. Good meeting you too. >> Of course. Have a good one. >> I'm Ben and I'm I'm not the even but I am even. >> Oh, your [laughter] name's even? Cool. Cool. Do your parents know you're doing this? when people are showing up at his door day and night, he is family too. And I mean, it's gotten obviously you guys aren't dressed in black wearing masks, but when that's been [laughter] when that's been happening this week, I called the police too. Yeah, I know. If I had strange men in the middle of night knocking on my door >> He's been working on it already. If it comes out on YouTube, you should definitely watch it. >> You got to get me on it though. >> It's really good. It's really good. It's the best acting. It's actually very well like you should watch it. It's going to be cool. It's very good. >> You never see a cop on YouTube where they're like, "Oh, yeah. Cops." You know. >> Hey, but even so, I have respect for you guys. Well, you guys are good to go. >> Okay. >> Shout out YouTube. >> Yeah. >> Shout out body cam, right? >> Yeah. >> Mhm.