ask you to call your [ __ ] supervisor on the road right now. >> So So why was that not said? >> No, it doesn't matter. We don't need a supervisor. >> We don't need a supervisor. >> You ran the red light. I needed your license, your registration, insurance. >> We're done talking. We're done talking. >> What the [ __ ] >> A routine red light stop in New Jersey. One driver, multiple officers. What happens next ends in handcuffs and raises a question the law has a clear answer to. >> 33 and EMS. >> Hello. Good evening. >> 333. >> EMS. 33 just heading over to 561 Boulevard. 561 Boulevard Medical 14 Charlie in argu one more time license registration. Don't make this harder than it has. All right. EMS 561 below east unknown medical at this time 14. >> If I have to ask you again if I'm going to have to ask you again call your supervisor. >> No I'm not calling my supervisor. There's no reason to call the supervisor. Step out of the vehicle. >> 34. We're going to be 19 from that uh stop warning. >> No. Call the supervisor. Call the supervisor. >> Call Call the supervisor. >> We're not calling nobody. >> Call your supervisor. I'm literally being calm, bro. Can you hear us? >> Step out of the car. >> Why? Why can't you not call the supervisor? >> I got her arms. >> Breathing. >> Why can't you call the supervisor? >> Stop resisting. >> I'm not resisting. THEN LET GO. LET'S GO. >> Step out the vehicle. >> Step out of the vehicle. >> Just call the supervisor. That's all I'm asking, bro. >> Step out of the car. >> Call the supervisor. >> Step out of the car. >> Call the supervisor. >> Call the supervisor. >> I stepped out. >> GET OUT. GET OUT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK YOU AGAIN. GO GET OUT. >> STEP OUT. >> Get out. >> Step out the car. Stop making it difficult. >> All right. So, step out. You're going to get charged with >> I will walk out, bro. >> Get out. >> I'MMA WALK OUT. >> GET OUT. GET OUT. >> RELAX. [ __ ] >> Let her walk out calmly. >> That's it. >> God damn. >> The stop is lawful. A red light violation satisfies probable cause. The demand for license, registration, and insurance is mandatory under New Jersey statute 39, section 3, subsection 29. No legal issue here. The exit order is equally lawful. Pennsylvania versus MIMS decided by the Supreme Court in 1977 establishes a bright line rule. During any lawful traffic stop, officers may order the driver out. No additional justification required. The driver's refusal does not override it. Requesting a supervisor is constitutionally protected speech, but it carries no power to pause lawful enforcement. Officers were not required to call one, though, refusing without any safety. Justification reflects poor deescalation judgment. The obstruction charge rests on New Jersey statutes annotated title 2C, section 29, subsection 1, which requires purposeful interference through force, violence, or physical obstruction. Passive refusal does not meet that threshold. The New Jersey Supreme Court confirmed this in State versus Cwley 2006. An overt physical act is required. Remaining seated and asking for a supervisor is not enough. The force used to extract her is governed by Graham versus Connor decided by the Supreme Court in 1989. Courts weigh three factors. Severity of the offense, threat level, and degree of resistance. Here, a traffic infraction, an unarmed subject in a stationary vehicle, nonviolent resistance. All three cut against the extraction. The resisting charge falls under New Jersey statutes annotated title 2C section 29 subsection 2 requiring prevention of a lawful arrest. If the obstruction charge fails, the arrest loses legal footing. A resisting charge cannot stand without a valid predicate arrest. I'm asking you to call your [ __ ] super right now. >> So So why was that not said? >> No, it doesn't matter. We don't need a supervisor. >> We don't need a supervisor for this. >> You ran the red light. I needed your license, your registration insurance. I ran the red light 20 m. >> We're done talking. We're done talking. >> What the [ __ ] bro? >> Dumb asses, bro. What's her name? You have a driver license? Don't you need her driver license? She wasn't driving. She driving my car. Yes. Drive my car. She my insurance. I don't want to ask you. >> What's that? >> Just fixing my car. >> I'm perfectly calm. Like I was willing to step out. >> Are you injured at all or no? Take the car. >> Are you okay? >> I'm not. >> No, she she's being arrested for obstruction and resistance. So, you got to wait for me. >> Huh? >> You want me to call? >> She's already She's driving down to South Carolina anyway, so she'll be here. >> Take her like 40 minutes from Connecticut. >> Huh? >> 428th Street. No. No guns, no drugs. I don't smoke. >> Shoot. I just got out the military. I don't do any of that [ __ ] >> Can Can you get in the right hand? >> I listen to the instructions. I was in the military. I'm perfectly fine. I listen to instructions. But like I'm truly sitting here telling you I didn't do. So if I'm telling you what you're motor vehicles, you're stopped. You're insane. Do you need to find a car? >> You're driving a car. Like >> I'm I'm well aware, but you're telling me I did something when I know I didn't. >> All right. Put in Ruben issue. >> Ruben, can you bring it to me? >> Can you take this? Oh, my hand. >> I like it to call my mom for free. I love you. >> SR just confirm one more time with uh that 39 if it's valid. >> We're going to have a 25 here for obstruction and then resisting 14. I have a BMW 320 >> belongs to a Charie Char out of Maran, Connecticut. All valid vehicle color grade. >> Thank you. >> No, >> you're not injured at all. >> You don't want to get checked out by EMS? You know what? Even if that happened, you go to court and you fight it. But now, now we're >> y'all just wrong for this. >> Why? Why you guys don't want to say this? Everything was valid. >> Unlock this damn car. >> Huh? >> You trying to unlock it? >> No, they say it was valid. The car? >> Yeah. >> Where's the insurance of the car? >> I don't know. She knows what your stuff is. You need the You need to give me the insurance. >> I don't know where she puts it. This is her car. >> All right. Well, >> can you ask where she puts her license so we can take it? We can do this quick. >> Her license and the insurance of the of the vehicle. >> I don't know where her insurance is. >> 51422. >> Yeah, it's the insurance. >> You good? >> Yeah. I'm I'll meet you inside. >> Can I pull the door? The window's open. >> No. No. >> I think this is it. >> What's her name? >> What's your name? though. >> No, it doesn't matter, man. We don't need anything. Does she Does she live here with you? Does she live with you or >> I don't live here. I live in Connecticut. >> Oh, so this is the address she lives. >> Yeah. >> Okay, cool. All right, >> you guys take it. >> We're going to I'm going to hold on to it and I'll give it to her when she's when we're done with All right. >> Have a good night. >> All right, I'll follow you in, Ruby. Just bring her officers C++. The stop was correct. Everything after dismissing the supervisor request, escalating to physical extraction over a red light, filing obstruction charges for passive non-compliance reflects proportionality failures, and statutory overreach. The EMS offer post force was procedurally appropriate. The driver B requesting a supervisor was legally sound. Refusing to exit was not. Under Mims, she had no legal standing to remain in the vehicle. Her own words, "You go to court and fight it," describe exactly what she should have done at the scene. The passenger, B+, cooperative, informative, and effective at keeping the situation from deteriorating further. Textbook civilian conduct under pressure. Three takeaways. One, comply first. Challenging court Mims gives officers the exit order regardless of fault. Two, obstruction in New Jersey requires a physical act, not words. Three, force must match the offense Graham is explicit and a red light violation sets a low ceiling. Let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic that you would like us to discuss in the comments below. Thank you for watching and don't forget to check out our second channel, Street Body Cam, for even more police interaction and courtroom content.