Oh, >> get back in the car. Do >> you have a police camera on? >> Yes, I do. >> Very threatening. You touching your your >> Get back. >> You said you you weren't driving. >> I'm traveling and I and I know y'all don't like to play by the real rules, but I already know. >> Turn. >> Listen, let me explain something to you, right? >> Okay. >> So, once you drop the kids off in the school, if you refuse to give that to me, you're going to take the ride today. >> Okay. Keep both legs straight, hands to your side. >> All right. Nope. Hey, just come stand by. >> Listen, I'd rather get arrested. >> Doesn't matter. It's a mute point. >> From the top. You don't know your You don't know the laws on the right. >> All the way. >> Law is law. >> We do. >> I'm asking you anything. You're standing over me while I'm talking to my brother. >> Oh, no. Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm just here to see if you have your insurance on. Today we are going to unravel six cases of entitled women who thought the law didn't apply to them, ending in arrests and felony charges. >> Operating hours. >> It's still there. >> Start. >> Okay. How are you going to get to the school? >> Drive down and make a U-turn. >> I understand if it's hours of operation, but I just need to get to the school to drop off my daughter. I'm late. So, if I was cutting it into traffic, that makes sense. >> Well, that makes sense. >> Okay. >> So, No, we're not doing that. I didn't commit a crime. >> Okay. >> I did not commit a crime. >> This is what you're going to you're going to let her go to the school. >> Yes, I am. But I did not commit a crime. >> And then as soon as you're done with that, I need your license, registration, and proof of insurance. >> So you either you So I literally told you you made that left hand turn where there's Let me explain something to you, right? >> Okay. >> So once you drop the kids off in the school, if you refuse to give that to me, you're going to take the ride today. >> Yeah. You're going to put me in jail. >> You're going to go to jail. Crime. >> I'm telling you right now. cameras. >> So, I need your license, registration, and proof of insurance. >> Okay. >> We've been together. We We know each other. >> We know each other. You know who I am. >> I have no idea who you are. >> Yeah, you are. You do. >> You start off with 20 this way. >> Oh, what am I going to do? >> Stop. >> I would stop my daughter. >> Sir, you can't. >> I told you already. We're done. >> You asked for my life. >> We're done. I asked No, you just told me you're not. >> I said call a supervisor and let me go get it. >> Stop moving your arm. Can you talk to me about you? Cuz you've been bullying me. >> Okay, ma'am. I don't know you. >> Yeah, you do. >> This moment highlights the suspect's attempt to deflect and confuse the officer by claiming prior acquaintance and alleging bullying. It's a common tactic to try and personalize the interaction and avoid legal accountability, but officers are trained to stay objective. >> I don't stop. >> What do I go to jail for? >> Resisting. Resisting for what? >> For what? >> I'm telling an adult, >> sir. I work in the city of Dan. >> Okay. Has nothing to do with me. >> Listen, you literally car face the car. >> Can I shut off my car? >> Face No. >> What am I going to jail for? >> Resisting. >> But what if I resist for >> I You told me to get your license for registration and then you grabbed me. >> We're done. We're not doing this today. >> Excuse me. Can you call the police to me? >> That's J. That's not going to stop anything. >> He's putting me in jail. Yeah. >> Literally for dropping off my daughter at school. >> Can you please please follow me? >> The principal can't stop anything that I'm doing. >> They're not saying I didn't even do nothing. >> We're done. >> Don't take me. Listen. >> No, you're going. >> Listen. Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen. Listen. Listen to me. Give me a chance. >> Listen. I You're going to ruin my life. >> I gave you multiple chances. >> I said I'll call a supervisor. It's actually going to be nice then get it for you. >> Face the car. >> Listen. I'm going to do this to you. >> We're done. >> Listen. >> We're done. Face the car. >> If you have a heart, you're going to ruin my life right now. >> There's nothing me. Face the car. >> Listen to me. >> Face the car, >> please. >> Nope. We're done. >> You have to take the ride today. >> Listen. >> Nope. >> Listen to me. I've never been to Listen. >> It's fine. Listen. >> We're done. >> Listen to me. >> Nope. >> There's no listen in my life right now. If you do this, please listen. >> And my kids. I >> you can take my Listen, listen. Okay, listen. I understand everything you're going, but I'm about to I got hired for the city of Atlanta. I will give you my license and registration. >> Okay. >> I don't want to ruin my future. I just had an issue with Gardner. >> I just I just want to get this straight. So, >> are you supervisor? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Listen, >> that's why I'm here. >> Okay. Thank you for Okay, I can give him my license. Listen, Gardner Mim had issue before. He said he doesn't remember. Okay. Okay. >> He's a little mean. Okay. He is. So, I'm sorry that I was a little mean to you because you've been mean to me earlier. >> Do you understand that we we interact with a lot of people every single day. So, we don't >> mean to me and I said good morning to you and you were mean to me and I actually said you and I was being nice. >> Ma'am, um, flattering is not going to go anywhere. >> I'm not saying that. You're right. You're right. You're being professional. >> Let me let me ask you this. Um, he initiated his lights. >> Um, you got out of the You got out of the car to drop off your child. He got out of the vehicle, asked for your license, registration, and insurance. You said you were dropping off your child. >> And what what crime did I commit? And then he seemed to tell me nothing. >> All right. So, when you came back, did he ask you for your license, registration, and insurance? >> Yes. And then I was like, can I get a supervisor? And I was really going to give it to him. At the end of the day, I was walking. If you look at the camera, >> let me let me explain something to you. All right. Let me let me let me just be honest with you. All right. That's not how this works. All right. >> When anyone when any law enforcement officer initiates their lights, that is a traffic stop. That is a legal detention. You don't have a legal right to walk away. >> All right. So, him letting you escort your child into the school, >> that was a courtesy that he didn't have to do. >> He could have hooked you up right then and there. >> You're right. >> All right. Secondly, secondly, when my law enforcement officers ask you for license, registration, and insurance, >> you are legally obligated to provide that. If you fail to do that at any point in time, you are failing to identify yourself on a legal detention, and you will be arrested. >> You can be arrested. >> Okay? >> So, when my deputy asked you for your information >> on more than one occasion, and you failed to do that, >> I No, I was I swear. Look at the camera. I was opening my door to get it and then he's like >> I mean more directly unless you walk through this hard. >> Yeah, you you can't. I was literally opening the door to go get it and then he grabbed me. >> Okay, >> but listen. >> Go ahead. Place her in the vehicle. Let me uh >> listen. >> Can I Can I ask you a question? >> We're going inside the car. We're going >> You can you can go into the car. You can ask me in the >> Can I tell you something? >> What's up? >> I got hired from the city of the van. >> Okay. >> Please don't take Give me a ticket >> inside the car. >> Do me a favor. Go ahead and take a seat in the vehicle. I'm going to watch this video and then I'll >> The supervisor's ability to review body cam footage on site is invaluable. It quickly refutes the suspect's narrative and provides irrefutable evidence of her non-compliance, solidifying the legal grounds for arrest for failing to identify and resisting. All >> right, I watched the video. All right. On three separate occasions, my deputy asked you for your license, registration, and insurance. >> And on three separate occasions, you decide No, you decided to argue with him. You're right. >> All right. I watched the video. >> You're right. You're right. Listen, you are right. >> And then on the third time, right before he took you into custody, he asked for it >> and I was >> and you told him no. >> I did. >> Yeah. You told him no. And to call for a supervisor and then you started walking towards your car. Right. So >> based on what I saw in the video, >> please don't please I >> You are being arrested. >> Listen, >> is there someone that we can call to come collect the the vehicle and the dog >> or at least the dog? >> I will be more than happy to have to move that vehicle into a parking spot. But as of right now, >> listen, >> no, we're we're we're not going to sit here and argue with you. >> Listen, I'm I'm not arguing. I'm apologizing. That's what I'm doing. >> Okay. >> So, is there somebody that we can call? Okay. Is it somebody? I need somebody that can come collect the dog at the very least. >> If it's on my phone. >> Is it in the vehicle? >> All right. You got her phone. >> Okay. I'm going to type this. It's a little tight. >> All right. Face that way. >> I don't want to lose my phone. >> Face that way. >> Face that way. All right. [snorts] In this fictional outcome, the driver was booked into county jail, later sentenced to 30 days in jail, followed by 12 months of probation. She was also ordered to pay court fines, complete an anger management course, and attend a driver responsibility program. >> Get back in your car. I'm pulling you over. Get back in your car. Get back in your car right now. Get back in your car. Get in your car. What are you doing? Hey. Hey. >> I don't know what your problem is. >> Send me it back. >> Hey. Hey. Hey. Stop walking away from the stop. Get back in the car. >> I feel threatened. >> Get back in the car. >> No. >> Get back in the car. >> Do you have the police camera on? >> Yes, I do. It's time. >> I feel very threatened. You touching your You're >> Get back cuz you're getting out of the car. >> Call the police. Call the police. >> Call the police. He's not. >> Get back in your car. I don't know who this man is and I car to my car. >> I'm stopping you because you crossed over the lane. Improper lane usage. I turned around and pulled you over. You got out of your car. Please get back in your car. >> Uh, no. Call your supervisor. No. >> Get back in your car. >> No. >> What's your deal? >> I don't know what your problem is. >> I pulled you over. Why are you getting on the car? I didn't attack you. I didn't even touch you. >> Get back in your car. [panting] You need [laughter] to take a moment. >> I don't know what your problem is. Please be alone. >> Okay. You need to get back in your car. What's going on? >> I don't know who I'm a lady. Stop. >> Please call your supervisor cuz you're not >> You're not You're not I wasn't doing anything >> and you're attacking. You You grabbed your gun. >> I don't know what you're doing. I don't know you. You need to get back in your car. The reason Can I Can I talk to you for one second? Can you hear me out? >> So, I pulled you over. Maybe you didn't notice, but I got the car. I said, "Hey, please get back in your car cuz I conducted a traffic stop on you and now you're not listening to direction. I need you to get back in the car." >> Excuse me, ma'am. >> Ma'am, >> call your supervisor. You have no right to do this. >> Okay. So, now I got a bunch of my officers here. So, I'm going to need you to provide me with your license. >> No, sir. >> Okay. Then you're going to be under arrest. I'm let >> the reason for the >> improper lane usage. >> No improper lane usage. >> Yes. You crossed over the middle of the line. I pulled you over. >> Pulling into this parking lot. >> Okay. So, you have one other option. If you do not provide me with your license right now, I'm going to take you to jail. Okay. >> That is incorrect. >> Okay. Turn around. Put your hands behind your back, please. >> Um, you got your cuffs on you. >> I have mine in my pocket here. >> Oh, I just switched. That's fine. >> What is What is the reason for my detainment? because you're not giving your driver license. >> Can I Can I talk to you? If you got pulled over for a traffic stop, whatever the probable cause is, it is what it is. >> You are driving a car, you're operating a motor vehicle on an Illinois roadway and you have to provide your driver's license. If you fail to do that, you're going to be under arrest so we can go go through your things and find out who you are. >> You have no reason for search. You're Where's your warrant? >> You are under arrest warrant. You are under arrest. >> Where's your warrant? >> If you want to go and search her real quick, Alison, too, when we get to my car, No. Where's your warrant? >> Where's your warrant? >> The suspect is confusing the legal authority here. Officers don't need a search warrant to identify someone or conduct a search incident to a lawful arrest. That warrant argument often comes from a misunderstanding of constitutional rights. >> I don't have to give you his name. I don't actually. >> Well, you'll you'll find out later that you do. >> Okay. All right. cuz that's he will give you his name when he gets in here. You'll talk to him. You'll see his badge. You'll see his name. >> This is my sergeant. Sergeant Regusa. >> Hi. How are you? >> Hi, Sergeant. >> What's your name? >> What's yours? >> Sergeant Regusa. >> What's your badge number, please? >> 4357. >> Thank you. >> Can you uh what's going on? >> I do not understand and I do not comply. >> Okay. Well, we can I can answer any questions for you. But before I do that, we'd like to get you in here so I can answer all your questions. I'm not going to assist in my detainment. >> No, it's not assisting in your detainment. It's just cooperating to get you in there so we can >> I'm not going to assist in my detainment. >> Well, they're going to they're going to bring you in there. Is there a medical condition that we should be aware of? >> I am on my menstrual cycle. >> Okay. Is there something that you can't get out of the car that you need to like maybe see a doctor or something or >> I will not answer any questions. >> Okay. Well, they need to they need to bring you into the jail for processing. What is the reason for my detainment? >> I've explained it a few times. So, I wasn't there. So, I'm [clears throat] just asking you question. >> I'll explain it to for you again. So, you committed a traffic violation. >> Avoid. >> I'm sorry. >> Of of what type of traffic violation? >> Improper lane usage. You crossed over the center boundary dividing line there. Okay. When So, that's why reason I pulled you over. So, you pulled in the space whether you saw me or not. I asked you said get back in your car. You did not get back in your car. So, you disobeyed my lawful command. Then I asked you multiple times for your driver's license and you refused to provide it. So that's why we're here. >> Why did you grab your gun? >> Because I don't know you and you're out of your vehicle. >> Why were you so aggressive? >> I was not aggressive. So let's just kind of back up. I don't know. I wasn't there, but I'm just trying to get to know what's going on. Can I first get what your first name is? >> I do not give names or anything. You already have illegally searched my purse and you are in possession of my wallet right now with my credit cards. You're in possession with my of my wallet, my credit cards, and there's no reason for it. Why didn't you put it back in my purse? >> They're going to give you all that back. >> But how come you didn't take the rest of my purse if you took my wallet and my credit cards? I didn't want to break. I have cash. You didn't take the cash. How about this? How about this? >> Cuz I don't care for >> questions. I'm trying to be cooperative for you, okay? I wasn't out at the scene, but I'm surely here to listen to you and answer your questions. But in return, I would hope that you would cooperate with me. Okay? >> I'm not going to cooperate. Nothing personal, but I'm not going to cooperate on my illegal containment >> part. Okay, then that's fine. And as far as you disputing that, this is not the venue for it. You can you can dispute that in court. No problem with that. But what happens from here is you have to get out of the car and you have to come into the jail for processing. And what happens after that is entirely up to you. If you don't want to answer any questions, that's up to you. There could be additional charges. Just be aware of that. But that's entirely up to you. You have every right to >> Here, the sergeant is outlining the inevitable consequence of continued resistance. The suspect's immediate jump to, "You better not hurt me," is a classic tactic to try and frame the officer's lawful actions as aggression, ignoring her own escalating non-compliance. exercise your rights and and all that kind of stuff. But what has to happen and is going to happen is that you're going to come out of the car and we're going to bring you in there for processing and then you can refuse everything else that you want. >> Does that sound reasonable? Is that Do you understand that? >> No, sir. I do not understand that. Do you not understand? >> I do not understand. I do not comply. >> The choices are we take you out of the car and bring you in there. >> You better not hurt me. >> That's entirely up to you. >> You better not hurt me. I have not done anything to be hurt. >> It's not intentionally to hurt you. We're trying to take you out of the car, but >> we can't leave you in this car. >> I'm not going to assist in my unlawful detainment. >> That's not assisting in your unlawful detainment. >> You're already detained. You're already under arrest and you've been detained right now. You're in handcuffs and we don't want to leave you in this car. >> All right. So, if you want to take that side, um I think she's going to wait again. So, one, two, three. >> Can you find my button? Come down this side my stairs. >> Okay. Put her on sit her on the seat position. Would you would you please walk in for us the rest of the way? >> No sir. Nothing personal, but I am not going to assist in my detainment. >> Again, if you will please walk. >> No, sir. Ready? Go. >> Nope. Are you standing? No. >> Ready. One, two, three. >> Following her arrest, she was booked into county jail and later sentenced to 45 days in jail along with 18 months of probation. The court also ordered her to pay traffic fines and court fees, complete a driver responsibility and legal compliance course, and perform 40 hours of community service. >> Can you open this one? Does it roll down? Can Can you roll this one down? Does it not open? >> Can you come outside? >> No, I'm standing. I gota I'm talking on this side. Can you roll this down all the way? Can you roll it down more for me, please, so I can talk to you? >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, all all the way down, please. >> Um, can you come this side? >> No. Okay. So, Officer K, I know the reason I stopped you for your speed and your tags expired. Can you please roll the window down? All the way. >> Um, how far is all the way? >> All the way. Like all the way down. >> Sorry, I don't understand what the all the way is. Okay. Let me get your license from you. >> No, I'm just No, I'm literally asking you >> all the way down >> like to Okay. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Can I have your license and proof of insurance for you? >> No problem. >> Yeah. So, Shells is a 30 right there. And so, you're going 50. So, you're 20 over. So, a little bit fast. Okay. >> My uh my pedometer is not reading correctly. So, I don't know what it says. So, I'm guessing if it doesn't read what you what your reading is. So, thank you for letting me aware. >> Yeah. >> Be aware. >> Where are you headed to tonight? >> Home. >> Home. Yes. >> Do you have uh insurance in the car as well? >> All right. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Here. Um, can I give you the email version? >> Yeah, if you have it on your phone, that's fine. >> Yeah, perfect. Yeah. >> Where are you coming from? >> My home. >> You're going home and you're coming from home? >> No. I came out and then my friend had a birthday party and she had a situation and I went with her. >> How much have you had to drink tonight? >> How much have you had to drink? Tonight, you just not going to answer or cuz you've got a couple empty shooters on the ground right there. It looks like three of them. You can't have one, two, three, four. >> I don't. So, I got to explain some people previously. I don't have most people multiple people that drive my car. So, >> okay. It doesn't matter. You're still in possession of it. Okay. >> Understand. >> It's not I mean, it's probably just not a good idea. >> I'm just going to see if you have your insurance for him. >> One second. >> Look at it. >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. >> Okay. Yeah. Come on. Come on. Come in. Zoom in. >> Zoom in. I don't Are you asking me to zoom No, I'm not asking you anything. You're standing over me. The one I'm talking to my brother. >> Oh, no. Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm just here to see if you have your insurance on. >> Oh, I have my insurance. I gave you my insurance already. >> You never showed me your insurance. >> It It's like five people that came over to my car already. >> It's only me and the officer that stopped you. >> Okay, thank you. Like, they harassing me. Like, what the is going on? >> How am I harassing you, >> bro? >> All I ask was for your insurance. That's it. >> I have my insurance. I gave you my insurance card. I ran it. >> No, you did not. >> My apologies. >> This is the suspect trying to control the narrative by exaggerating, claiming multiple officers and having already provided documents is a deflection tactic to confuse and frustrate, but the body cam footage easily disproves it. >> No, you're fine. This is just >> No, I'm not I'm not saying anything. My brother's coming. He'll have the insurance all this stuff for you. Okay. >> He has the insurance? Yes, he has my insurance for the car, everything. He's like, we live two minutes away from He'll be here in one second. >> Gotcha. Okay. I'm just concerned cuz I mean you told me that you showed it to me just now twice, but now you're saying that your brother has the insurance. >> Yes, I did show the insurance card, too. The officer prior to you. >> Okay. Was that one expired or something or? >> No, it wasn't expired. >> Okay. Um, does he have the insurance? >> Yes, he has it. And I have it in my car. My phone. My phone is about to die, so I didn't want to do too much. Gotcha. Okay. >> Was there something going on or what happened? >> Oh, I don't know why he stopped you to be honest with you. >> Can you find out? >> I just got you. He'll be out here in just a second. >> Okay. >> You should find out before you just hover over people. Like, here is like stupid. >> No. So, typically um especially in night shift, we just have two officers when normally uh >> we pull over our vehicle. >> Any luck on the insurance? >> No, she actually said that um she gave it to you. >> You don't you never gave me the insurance? Did you have any luck pulling it up? >> So, I didn't give you anything. >> You don't [clears throat] remember not giving me anything? >> Don't worry. My brother's coming right now. >> No, no, no, no. One's going to come. >> No, no, no, no. >> So, what what's what's going to I mean, if he he's not going to come to the traffic stop, so go hang up the phone for me. >> Nope. I'm not going to hang up the phone. >> Okay. So, you're going to get arrested for obstructing if you don't. >> Let me talk to my lawyer. >> Okay. So, >> GRABBING ME FOR NO REASON. >> HEY, don't turn the car on. Get out. Get out. Don't pull away. Get out. Get out. Come on. >> Put on blacks. No, it's cuz you have open container. >> Okay, get out. >> Show me the container. Show me the container. >> Get out. Hey, >> step. Okay, step out of the You're under arrest. You're under arrest. Get out. >> Do say the Say the Say the >> Bro, >> stop. >> Well, you're under arrest now. >> Let's Okay, >> you're under arrest. Get out. >> Get out. >> Let's redo it. >> We're done. >> Let's redo it. Get out, baby. >> Get out of the car, >> bro. Let's redo it. >> Get out here. >> Cuz you're not Cuz I didn't do anything wrong in this, y'all. >> Like, for real. And you know it. >> Get out. >> I didn't do anything WRONG WITH THIS, Y'ALL. >> I'M TALKING TO Y'ALL. >> STEP OUT. >> NO, for real. Like, you know. >> Get out of the vehicle, >> ma'am. Just step out of the vehicle. >> Get out of the car. >> I haven't done anything wrong in your shop. >> Pulling my arm. >> I'm car. Come on, lawyer. You ran my life right afterwards. >> Put your knees up my knees afterwards. Put your knees up. You ran my knees afterwards. You ran my right afterwards. You ran my right afterwards. >> You ran my sit out. >> No. No. >> This is a common misconception about Miranda rightites. They only need to be read before custodial interrogation. Being arrested first and read them later doesn't invalidate the arrest or evidence of the crime itself. Only statements made before the reading. >> You read my rights after. >> Stand up. All righty. Let's uh go. >> They read my right. You You know me. >> I'm saying they read my rights after. >> No, it's not okay. >> You want me to search? >> Please. Yeah. >> You got to search me. >> Search me. What happened to me? Trash me. They read my race after. >> What do you mean? >> It's okay. I'm going to talk to my lawyer. >> No, it's cool. They read my race afterwards. That's cool. >> Okay, we'll talk about the police department. Okay, then you can talk to your lawyer about it all. What I'm going to do is I'm going to take you to the jail. >> Why would you do that to me? Like, that's so sad. Like, black women have the minimal things of rights for everybody. And y'all I'm I'm being nice to everybody. I'm being cool with everybody. And y'all doing this No, no, no, no, no. I'm not taking a seat in the car until you understand right now. >> Okay. So, whatever happened what I got to say. >> Yep. Y'all want to do right? Okay. >> No, I'm not. >> Can I Can y'all wait till my brother come here? I don't I don't want to get in the car until I have a relative or somebody that I know with me. >> This is his car. So, you're going to be fine. This >> car. >> It's my car. This is my POLICE CAR. >> DON'T WANT THAT, >> BRO. OKAY. You remember? You remember me? >> Why don't you just get in the car for us? We'll sort it all out later. Okay. >> After being taken into custody, the driver was booked into county jail and later sentenced to 90 days in jail, followed by 2 years of probation. >> I was going 40, I thought. >> Nope. You got your license, registration, proof of insurance. >> You don't have to have a license to drive cars. >> Yes. Yes, you do. >> You do not. 15741 with me. Ma'am, step out the vehicle. >> Step out the vehicle. >> Am I Am I a crime? >> Yeah, you are being detained right now. Step out the vehicle, young lady. >> I I know my rights. >> Either you step out the vehicle or I will remove you from the vehicle. >> I know my rights. >> 157 sovereign supervis sovereign citizen. >> Did you hear what I said? You need to get a supervisor out here right now. >> No, you need to step out the vehicle right now. Young lady, step out the vehicle. Step out the vehicle. Last time I'm going to ask you, I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask and then I'm going to make you step out the vehicle. >> You're going to get me a supervisor out here right now. >> No, you're going to step out the vehicle right now. >> You are going to get me a supervisor out here right now. >> That's fine. >> I know my right. >> What right is that? >> I I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a car. I am not This is not a commercial vehicle. >> Okay. >> I know my right. >> Okay. Very well. >> That's what you want to stick with? >> Call a supervisor. right now. >> All right. >> Right now. >> Or else what? >> I know my rights. >> If I don't call supervisor or else what? >> I guess we're not going to go anywhere then. >> Continue. 1025. >> Just hold it for me and go and give me the channel. >> You need to get a supervisor out here. >> Channel will be 1033. >> That can that can educate you on what the law is. >> Okay. He's he could educate me on what the law is. What? So, do you have an ID or you have a driver's license? >> I No, I don't have a driver's license on me. Okay. Do you have one issued to you? >> Uh, in Mississippi. >> In Mississippi. So, why would you need a driver's license to drive on the road if you don't need a license? >> That was years ago. >> Oh. So, what year is this? >> Common law. Natural. >> I don't care about common law. You're in the state of Florida. >> You're in the state of Florida. >> You're in the state of Florida. >> Doesn't matter in what state. >> It does matter. >> I'm in the US. >> It does matter. So, you better hope the information you gave us comes back as to being you. So, at this point in time, I need you to shut the vehicle off and step out of the car. >> I'm I'm not getting out of the vehicle. >> You're going to get out of the car. [bell] >> I haven't been suspected of a crime. >> You are being legally stopped on a traffic stop. You are not being cooperative. >> It is not a Terry stop. >> Trust me, I know the difference. You were speeding. >> Speed. >> Turn the vehicle off and get out of the car. >> Out of the car now. Undo the seat belt. >> Turn the vehicle off. >> Turn it off now. Officer Shaer unbuckled. >> Put all that down. >> Step out. Turn around. Face away from me. >> Turn around. Face away. >> Turn around. >> I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. >> Yes, you do. >> No. How to >> This insistence on not needing a license is a core tenant of sovereign citizen beliefs. But legally, driving is a regulated privilege. Her refusal to comply after a lawful order will definitely lead to arrest. Not >> Well, then you can tell that to the judge if you end up going to jail. >> I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. I have all the laws right there. >> I don't care what I don't care what laws you say you have. >> I know that you don't care because you're supposed to be a police officer. >> This is You should know that this conversation's over then, >> right? Because you don't care about the laws. You don't care about our rights. That's the problem. >> Have a seat. >> I need to call I need to call somebody. Yes, I do. >> You call somebody from Santa Rosa County Jail. >> Excuse me. >> You call somebody from San Rose County Jail. You're under arrest. >> I live right down there. >> Where is your ID out of or your license out of? >> Mississippi. >> I just thought you didn't have one. You just said you don't need one. >> This is This is This is ridiculous. What are you going to do with my car? >> Probably tow it. >> Why? >> Because you are driving without a license. >> I don't have to have a license to drive. That is commercial driving. >> It is not commercial driving. >> Yes, it is. >> Ma'am, I'm telling you right now. No, no, no. Stop. I'm tell you didn't piss us off. >> I obviously have cuz y'all are detaining me illegally. No, you're you're being arrested is what's happening and you have not pissed us off. We are doing our job. >> Whether you agree or not doesn't matter. It's a mute >> point from the top. You don't know your you don't know the laws in the right way. >> Law is law is law. >> We do. >> Sergeant Turner. >> And and in this country, what laws do we follow? >> Canon law. Y'all follow cannon law. We follow natural law. >> Who is we? Who is we? Who's we? Tell me who we is. >> Police officers. >> No, police officers. >> We We are police officers. We're not peace officers. We're police officers. >> Yes, I know that now. >> So then your argument just needs to stop and you just need to sit there quietly. >> Sergeant Turner, please just let me go home. >> No. >> Why? because you do not have a valid driver's license and you have done nothing but give my officers a hard time during this entire ordeal. >> I tell you that I have rights. >> You don't know your rights clearly to y'all. I haven't yelled at you. >> You have not been cooperative. >> I haven't been cooperative of what >> these historical inaccuracies and legal misinterpretations are common in sovereign citizen arguments. They fundamentally misunderstand the distinction between constitutional rights and regulated state privileges like driving >> into place even back then. >> Our our constitution was changed in 1776 and in 1871. >> I don't think it was changed in 1776. >> It it was written in 1776. >> Ah, there we go. >> And it was it was changed in 1871. >> I have to take your word on that one >> because you haven't done the research >> because I don't need to. Right. Because you know everything. >> I don't know anything, but I do know my job >> and I know my officers know their job. >> You know >> the orders that you're supposed to do? >> No, I just know that you have to have a driver's license. >> People in the community. Y'all should be helping the people. >> We do help. >> No, you don't. >> We do. >> You you you >> You don't know anything. >> You don't know about You don't know anything about us. I do >> to sit there and say that I don't help anyone, that my officers over there don't help anyone. >> Y'all aren't helping me right now. >> You're not helping yourself because you choose to not get a valid driver's license. >> That's totally changing. >> You're just playing a victim. >> I'm not I'm not playing a victim. >> That's what you're doing. >> I'm not a victim. I'll never be a victim. I hate that mentality. >> Then then then why are you playing all these excuses as to you don't need a driver's license? >> I have the laws in that car. That's why I ride around with them. >> Why? To educate >> the book of the Constitution. >> To educate people like me. >> I don't think that you're interested in learning anything. I think that you're very stubborn. >> I don't think you know anything about me to even get to make that comment. >> She was taken into custody and booked into county jail where she later faced court proceedings. The court ultimately sentenced her to 30 days in jail, 12 months of probation, and several hundred in fines and court fees. came for 1931. >> Can you transport? I saw her heading uh northbound on Congress and I loop around, got behind her, saw her make that left onto Woolike. Extremely slow. Extremely slow. And then she went down here. Speed limit is 45. She's going 1000 the whole way to Lawrence. Then she has a green light to make a U-turn. She waits at the light with her Bone for about 30 seconds. It's not moving. It stops in the road. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Is that what? Okay. Okay. Let me see what the hell. >> Hello, ma'am. >> Hello. >> How are you? >> Um, unbelievably. I I can't find my way home. I have dementia. >> You have dementia? >> Yeah. >> What's your name? >> John. >> What's your date of birth? >> Okay. You know what today's date is? Um, I could really can't laugh. >> What? >> I took care of >> Not because of your record. So, where did you come from? >> From >> Okay. So, did you have anything to drink today? >> No. >> Are you sure? >> You take medications? >> Oh, I >> Okay. What kind of medication? >> I You have to tell me. >> It's not medication. It's for my stomach. It's not >> That's okay. You don't have to tell me. Hey, it's it's no big deal. When was the last time you had something to drink? >> Yes. >> What? What was it? >> Okay. You got any wine today? >> You sure? Cuz I'm smelling it. >> Perfume. >> The perfume. Okay. You got wine in your car? >> You need to search? >> I'm not going to search your car. >> You can go search it all day long. >> I'm not going to search your car. But my again my my concern right now is is is is you driving unsafe on the roadway. That's my concern. Okay. >> Yes. >> So how much how much glass of wine did you had? >> That was yesterday. >> Okay. How much did you had yesterday? >> All I need to do is >> not answering the question. >> I don't have the answer. Well, like I said, because I believe you've been you're driving impaired and that's the reason I'm asking you this question. >> Can you step out for me? >> Can you step out? You have to. >> Oh, I do have my life ticket. >> Come out of the car. >> Excuse me. Don't speak to me like that. >> Come over here. >> Yep. >> You know, put put Yeah, go ahead and put put your clothes on. >> My clothes are on? >> Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Let me help you out. Okay. No one's going in your car. It's all right. >> Miss M. No one's going in your car. >> Okay. So, do you need any medical problems? Do you need any medical attention? You need paramedics to check on you for anything. >> Perhaps. Yes. >> For what? >> Listen to me. I just want to go home. >> I know. But I know you said that, but I also think you've been drinking, but I'm smelling it. And that's the reason you've been driving like the way you were driving. And just talking to you, I can tell you what you've been drinking. >> So, you want to be honest with me now? >> Um, I take the fifth. >> Saying I take the fifth here is the suspect's way of refusing to answer questions about alcohol. While she has the right to remain silent for a DUI investigation, her refusal to answer about consumption combined with other indicators strengthens the officer's case for impairment. >> Okay. So, >> for me to be satisfied, >> yes, >> that you're going to be able to drive home safely. >> Yes. >> Okay. I'm going to give you a chance to prove to me that you're not driving drunk. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Hold on. By doing >> Oh, yes. I'm >> by doing some exercises so I can check your eyes and I'll be walking this white line over here to making sure you're okay to drive. If you you're doing everything okay, get back in your car and go home. I do that. >> Got it. Yes. >> Okay. >> The problem is I have the poorest sense of direction that you have no freaking idea. >> All right, I'll do whatever exercise you want. >> One second. I'm fine. >> Oh, you know you said that. >> Oh my god. You think you pulled over Escobar? >> Who's Escobar? >> Do you wear glasses? >> The drug right? Yeah. >> You wear contacts? >> I wear glasses. >> You wear contacts right now? >> No, I'm not wearing those. >> Stand up [ __ ] for me. If you if you don't mind if you can stand with your feet with your feet like this. Put your hands to your side. Look at me real quick. See this red light? >> Mhm. I'm going to get my flashlight. >> Yo, you're lucky. I like it because if ever my neighbors saw me, that would be trouble. >> Oh, no. That's not good. Don't walk. Don't go. You got to go back. Let's try it one more time. Okay. Follow. You got to follow along with me here. >> I Okay, I'm doing it. >> Let's try it one more time. >> Right after correct. First stop. Left foot on the line. There we go. No, let's try something else. Okay, let's try something else. Come over here. I'm over here. >> Do not like the way I I walk on the >> I see. I see you. Face me real quick. >> Just stand like this like this. Okay. Did you have any leg surgeries in the past? Broken bones or anything like that? >> Yes. I broke my foot. >> How long ago was this? >> Um March 1st. >> What year? >> Last year. >> Okay. Do you walk with a limp? Um, I >> Do you use a cane or a walker? >> No. >> I I work. >> Are you able to stand on one leg? >> I don't want to talk about it. >> Okay. I don't want you to be emotional. I'm just making sure you're okay. >> All right. Cuz I got Okay, >> let's move on from then. So, what I want you to do for me, stand like this for me. Okay. Keep your hand to your side. >> When I say begin, you're going to pick whichever leg that you prefer. Okay? FA face me. Face me. Face me. Face me. You're going to lift it up like this. About 6 in off the ground. >> Follow me. >> I can't do it. I I can't do it. >> Why? >> Huh? >> 6 in. I mean, >> it's about like a soda can. Okay. The height of a side of soda can like this. >> Okay. I'm doing it for you. >> Okay. Keep both legs straight. Hands to your side. >> All right. Don't Hey, just come stand by. Listen, I'd rather get arrested. >> For what? >> Hold on. Hold on. Let's try. If you can't do it, I'll move on to something else. Okay. I I I I don't want to make sure I don't want you to fall. >> I'm not falling. I'm telling you that you're making me cry. >> And I appreciate you. >> You want to continue? >> No. >> You don't want to continue? >> No. >> Okay. So, I don't want to force you to do the exercise. Okay. But what I don't want what I what I'm what I want make sure you understand that I don't want to arrest you for for DUI based on everything else that I observed my observation my investigation and that's the reason I'm giving you the chance to do the exercises. Okay that can be used against you in court. Okay. >> I got it. >> You want to continue or not? >> Huh? >> I'm trying. >> Okay. Turn around this way for me. Turn around this way. What are you doing? >> You You're under arrest. >> For what? >> Relax. >> Stop. >> What do you want? That's the reason. >> No, no, no, no. I have animals. I have dogs in my home. >> Okay. In the house. >> Relax your hand. >> Neighbors. >> Nope. >> Hold on. Let make sure you got small wrist. >> [ __ ] nothing wrong. I know. I still >> These are I don't know. These are smaller than handcuffs. Yeah. I'm sure you won't be able to. >> No, no, no. I have animals. >> You live by yourself or you live with anybody? >> I have 11. >> How many animals do you have? >> I have dogs. >> Huh? >> This is a classic emotional appeal post arrest. Bringing up her animals is an attempt to gain sympathy or distract from the DUI charges. However, officers have to remain objective and focus on the legal process, not emotional manipulation. >> I take the license. >> You're going to do the throw. Yeah, that's sensational. Excuse me. Okay. I need my hand back. I have two canines and as I am not bad. >> Do you understand what I'm telling you officers? >> Yes. With $2. >> Then you better go pick them up and bring them >> to where you want to take them with you. >> Oh, this is a joke >> 13. And you know what's crazy? I actually pay you and contribute. >> White female signal. >> Yeah. [ __ ] I don't >> I know. But >> to do that. >> Fortunately, when people get arrested, we don't take care of their animals. So, >> you know what though? Well, I really after that you're making a ton of >> $200. >> All right, she's good. All right. Um, >> she said I think >> Can you just um You can sit for now. >> I haven't seen this. >> You made them tight again. You're not Look, they're moving. See? >> All right. >> Thank you, sir. >> No problem. Thank you, dear. >> So, I as I said again, and I say repetitive, but I have >> I have the paramedics ready to come check you. >> Excuse me. >> I have the paramedics. Following the arrest, the driver was booked into county jail and later appeared in court where the judge ordered 45 days in jail, 18 months of probation, mandatory DUI education classes, and the installation of an ignition interlock device on any vehicle she operates. >> What? Tell me your name. >> I'm sorry. Say that again. >> Heidi's fault. last name. >> My last name. >> Sorry. >> I'm not in the jurisdiction. I'm not traveling. I'm sorry. I'm not driving. I am traveling. >> Oh, so she's just giving me the first name. >> Ma'am, we have to be able to identify you because you're lawfully being stopped. >> Lawfully being stopped. Under what grounds? >> You have no tag on your vehicle, >> right? And I just mentioned. >> Huh? Why are you guys surrounding my vehicle right now? Now I feel threatened. >> You have PC to tow the car without a tag on it right now. >> So you have no tag on your vehicle. That's why you're being stopped. Correct. >> Okay. So being that you're on a lawful stop. You're being lawfully stopped with probable cause of having no tag. >> What crime is that? >> You have no You're not understanding. You have no >> That's a crime. That's not a crime. >> That is a crime. Yes, it is. >> It's not a crime. >> Yes, it is. But quick get your drink. >> Are you going to identify yourself? We have to have some type of way to identify >> documents out of your trunk or you give us the information verbally. Those are your only two options at this time. >> You have to I'm trying to work with you, but you got to be extremely extremely aggressive. >> Y >> you have to identify. >> Make sure you're ready to get her out of the car. >> All right. We're going to go ahead and photo. You're going to what? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Is the car off? >> No. Excuse me. What are you about to do? >> Is the car off? >> What are you do? >> We're going to remove you and the passenger out of the vehicle due to you not wanting to cooperate with us and provide us information that we are asking for you to give us. >> I am not agreeing to you. Excuse me. What are you doing? What are you doing? >> I got murdered. >> Step out. Step by >> I just gave you my freaking name. What the hell are you talking about? >> Yes, I did. Do not touch me. >> Get out of the car. >> Come here. Just come over. >> What are you doing? >> I'm going to have you come to the back of the car over here. >> Do not touch my daughter. >> Your daughter's cooperating. We don't have to do anything. You're not cooperating. Hit me. >> I'm going to get the venom off the vehicle. >> I need all of y'all badge, your names, your badge numbers, etc. >> Just go ahead and you can lean up against the car. >> Can you let go of me? >> No. So then lean against the car. >> I'll lean against the cover. Let go of me. >> Stay right there. Lean further. >> Five Yankee Juliet three. But just so you know what's happening, right? So your mom's being detained right now because she's driving a vehicle without a license plate on it, right? So we don't know what's going on. So she's being detained. You're not detained. We just need to get you out of the car because the car is like you're going to be to SC. Do you mind closing that door for me on the car? Thank you. Not Not you, ma'am. Not you, ma. >> You need to get the hair out of my eyes, please. >> The officer there can help you with that. >> No, not touch me again. >> It's fine. Please >> get out of my mouth. Notice how the officer clearly distinguishes between the detained mother and the daughter, explaining the daughter's freedom. This is good practice for transparency and ensuring the child understands their rights while also showing appropriate care in a difficult situation. >> So, you're not you're not being the thing, then your uh your mom is. Okay? So, if somebody comes to pick you up, whatever it is, they're welcome to do that. You do not have to stay here should you not want to. Okay? If you want to remain with your mom, you're welcome to do that. I'm just here to make sure that no cars hit you, that you're safe, and all that stuff. You're free to go um anywhere you wish. >> Hey, Sergeant, so yourself. >> Okay. What do we got going on? >> Okay. >> How can I help? >> There's no crime, which there is not. I need to get removed from these handcuffs right now. >> Okay. >> These aggressive ass cops surrounded my car, surround my vehicle without my consent. >> Open my door unlawfully and yank me out of my car. >> Okay. >> When I'm not driving, I am not doing any commercial activity right now. That's my daughter. She's going to school. >> You said you're you weren't driving, >> correct? I'm traveling >> and I and I know y'all don't like to play by the real rules, but I already know them. >> Okay, >> I'm not going to uh accept anything less than and everyone here is going to be sued, >> okay, >> for their unlawful behavior right now. This is unreal. >> Okay, >> not only that, but I'm >> staying here, right? Um I'm just going to close this for you so it doesn't get all over the car. It was >> your mom. >> Is it okay if she gets her phone? >> Do you know where it is? >> Okay. Show it to your mom. Make sure that's that's your phone. >> Don't not touch my >> Put this phone back in the car, please. >> You can't give it to your mom. Do you Are you going to take it with you? >> Oh, no. She's giving it to me. Why? >> You can't have your phone. She said she was taking it with me. >> Okay. >> Why can I not have my phone? >> Cuz you're detained right now, ma'am. >> For what crime? >> The officer explained that to you already, right? >> No, there's no crime. Take >> Are you taking this with you or are you leaving the car? >> Leave it in the car. >> Leave it in the car. >> Okay. >> Can I talk to my daughter? Can you get away from me, please? >> No, I cannot get away from you. do your detain at this time. >> You can talk to your daughter, but just we're not we can't let you walk away. >> I'm not asking to walk away. I'm asking her to come here and y'all step away from me, please. I'm not >> She's right here. She's right here. Ma'am, you can talk to her. >> Call Chris, please. If we're going to do telephone communication is key. The arrest isn't solely for the lack of a tag, but for passive resistance, the refusal to cooperate and identify. This shifts it from a minor violation to a criminal charge, highlighting the legal implications of non-compliance. >> And then you weren't giving them anything that they could use to identify you. You're also driving in a vehicle or you're traveling in a vehicle that doesn't have a license plate on. So that's why they stopped you. >> I understand that. >> Okay. So based on >> this one on there, I literally bought that from dealership not even a month ago. So based on on you not cooperating and providing the officers the information they needed, that's a form of passive resistance. >> It is not. >> And they're arrest and they're placing under arrest as a result of that. That's what that's why you're in handcuffs because they're trying to >> Who is the injured party right now then? >> Um there's I don't know if there's an injured party by your ter by your terms, but there's no crime. Just explain to you what happened and I have not respected anything. He he uh do you want me to Your daughter needs to get to school. >> Okay. So, do you want me to release her to school? Do you want me to escort her to school? How do you want me to get her over there? >> You can come over here. >> Sir, can you please get this woman out of my face? I'm not moving. >> Ma'am, let's just focus on your daughter. >> On your daughter. >> Can you please call Chris? Is he not answering? >> Okay. How do you get your daughter to school? Okay. This is why I separated you because you're trying to do stuff through your daughter, which you're not allowing. How you going to get your daughter to >> Who are you? My maker? Like, who who are you to not allow? We're going to close the door. >> Are you going to walk her over there or is she going to walk by herself? >> I don't really think she walk. >> Yeah, let's walk. We're going to walk you over the school. Okay. We're not going to walk you into the campus, but we're just going to so that way you're not embarrassed. We're going to walk you up and just see you in >> All right. >> Somebody forgot. be so >> Hey Vinnie, just let her know where her mom will be at, okay? So she could tell the adult. >> All right, go ahead and >> do whatever you're going to do.