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Let go of me. Please let go of me. No. Please let go of me. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Got you. Do you mind You have paperwork for it? Yeah. Ma'am, do you have your ID on you? Um no. That's the only one I'm getting angry. Um I know one. I'm waiting for the BMV to send me like a hard plastic copy. Okay. You mind if I see that? Yeah. Okay. Let me see. Uh just taking a look at this real fast. Okay. Is this your current address on here? Yes. Go back. Yes. Go back. Yes. Okay. Is there an issue? Uh possibly. We're going to take a look here. Okay. Yeah. And what is the issue? Uh we just want to make sure that this is a proper document. Okay. Yeah. You got this from the DMV? >> Yes. Okay. All right. Give me just a moment, okay? Okay. I mean I got, you know, everything everything that is, you know, legit. I got it from Well, this I got from where I went I don't care who worked there anymore. Um I quit after this. And then I got that from the BMV. Okay. Mhm. All right. Give me just a second here, okay? Okay. And you can even call and verify. I'm pretty sure there's a number somewhere. And then I have this which is cool also. This one here. That came with the What is that on here? This just says your address. Got you. 205 copy, DL. Robert Zebra 104347. You break it. 205. 10-4. Thank you. All right. On August 9th, 2023, Ohio police responded to a woman attempting to cash a $28,000 check using fraudulent identification. What followed raises important questions about identity fraud and arrest procedures. Officers verify the temporary driver's license and discover it doesn't match any Ohio BMV records. This establishes probable cause for arrest under Fourth Amendment standards. Under Ohio law, identity fraud involving over $7,500 is a third-degree felony carrying 9 to 36 months imprisonment. The forged ID and $28,000 check clearly meet this threshold. All right. Go ahead and turn around for transport in the car. Oh, can I No. I have to call I I have to call Right now you're going to put your Put this Put it on the counter. Put it down. Put it on the counter. Okay. Okay. Down. Shoot. Hey. Is that a right there? Put it in your pocket. I have to call my kids. I have to make sure who um has my kids and all Keep your hands behind your back. Stop moving. Stop. I don't know what the issue is. We're going to figure that out here, okay? Okay. So I'm being put in in chains >> Just relax here. Cuffs? Yes. Just relax. You're not even telling me what is going on. I don't understand. We'll get to that. I've never been in a situation like this. Like I'm completely confused. Like And you're not even telling me what's going on. >> Your license isn't coming back to you. It's not a not an Ohio driver's license. It's a fake one. How is it fake? Look at them right here. Got the Stop it. Don't reach inside anything. Stop. No, because that's a violation of privacy. Oh my god. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. You just can't go through my things LIKE THAT. THEY HURT. YOU'RE UNDER ARREST. They hurt. You don't have to do all this. LIKE YOU'RE HURTING ME. KEEP YOUR HANDS OKAY. I'M I'm trying TO PUT THEM DOWN. If you would stop. Stop reaching for stuff. OH MY GOD. WHAT CAN I REACH FOR? YOU'RE HURTING ME. I DON'T HAVE NOTHING IN MY POCKETS. STOP. OKAY. Can you please let go of me? I'm not going TO GO NOWHERE. THERE'S THREE OF Y'ALL AND I'M I'M ONE PERSON. Please do not touch my ass. I'm just Back OF MY HAND. >> BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU DOING THAT. >> I'm just doing it for officer safety here. It's the back of my hand. Stop reaching. Please let go of me. No. We're going to the car. Come on. Please let go of me. No. Please let go of me. You're hurting me, bro. Okay. I I am. Can you please let go? NO. YOU ARE HURTING ME. YOU ARE HURTING ME. OW. You're hurting me because the cuffs the cuffs are too tight on my wrist and they're hurting me. Okay, but they don't have to be this tight. I'm one little ass person. There's three of you. This is ridiculous. Please let go of me. No. Please let go of me. Please let go. You're hurting me. You're hurting me. I don't care. You're hurting me. Buckle you in so you don't get hurt. How the [ __ ] am I going to get hurt? I'm in the back of the [ __ ] car. Cuz it's state law to have you buckled in. Can you at least loosen them? Go ahead and turn the car on. Turn the camera on. No, they're properly spaced. No, they're not. They're [ __ ] tight. I'm telling you. They're not. They hurt. They are tight. How are you going to tell me? They're on me. They're not on you. You find a real ID? Yeah, I gave it to one of You want to go ahead and read her her rights and let her know what's going on. See if she wants to answer any questions. Yeah. Give me a second. I'm sorry. I'm taking a minute here. Let me get Let me make sure I got it right. Who is who she actually is. Got you. Is that even the check? $28,000. Did they say if the check was bad or just the ID? I'm sure just the ID Just check the ID. She's got somebody else's social here. I'll let you go through all this. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, let me just gather my thoughts for a second. So this was in here and then She has a forged government document. Okay. In someone else's name. Got you. There's another ID issue in there. Okay. Can I make a phone call, please? Yeah, when we get to jail. I'm not going to be there long. Let me just set this here in the seat for a second. I'm in a I'm allowed a bond. I need to call for my kids. >> We can take care of that later, okay? Okay. How What's So you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. >> Okay. I have one question. Am I allowed a bond? You have the right to an attorney if you cannot afford one. Am I allowed a bond? >> No. We'll get all this stuff figured out. Um do you have any questions right now? Just I need to make a a couple phone calls. We'll get that figured out later, okay? What's later? I have to get a hold of my kids so they know what's going on. >> We have to get to jail and process you first. Yeah, you'll get a call later. What's later though? That's what I'm asking. Here. Let me go through the wallet. I have to call my fiance. Okay. All right. Do you want to answer any questions about what's going on here? No, I don't. No? I'd rather be quiet because you guys are known to twist Um I do have one question. When am I going to be able to get my belongings? Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Hello. Hello. When am I going to be able to get my belongings? Excuse me. Hello. When am I going to be able to get my belongings? That's the only question I have. >> going to get that figured out, okay? Why can't you tell me anything? >> in. Why can't you tell me anything? And then we'll figure out about your belongings, okay? Will I be able if I get bonded, will I be able to receive them back? My ID and my phone and my purse? We'll get that figured out. I'm not sure all the details yet. We're looking through here and just trying to figure it out, okay? >> you tell me? You're the one that has my belongings. The subject actively resists handcuffing. Pulling away from officers, under Graham versus Connor, the officer's use of physical control without strikes or weapons is objectively reasonable given the felony offense and active resistance. Miranda rights are properly advised before interrogation. The subject later claims a Facebook scheme defense, but knowingly using fake identification remains criminal regardless of who provided the check. The officers receive a B+. They established probable cause through proper verification, used appropriate force, and conducted a constitutional arrest. Areas for improvement include physically checking handcuff tightness and providing more empathetic communication about the booking process. Overall, this reflects competent law enforcement with minor gaps in professionalism. The subject receives a D. Attempting to cash a $28,000 check with forged government identification is serious felony conduct. She then resisted arrest and made voluntary statements that incriminated herself. Her Facebook defense actually admitted to theft by deception. The correct approach would have been to remain silent and request an attorney immediately. Three critical lessons emerge from this case. First, for citizens, understand your Fifth Amendment rights before police contact, not during arrest. Silence is not suspicious, it's constitutional protection. Second, for law enforcement, professional communication costs nothing but prevents complaints and builds public trust. A 30-second explanation about phone calls and belongings would have dramatically reduced this subject's anxiety. Third, for everyone, financial fraud schemes promising easy money always involve criminal liability. If someone offers you thousands to cash a check, you're not getting paid, you're getting arrested. Three social security cards, video. The socials that are in there belong to me and my children. And you can look that up and you'll see that that's proof. Those socials are my children's and mine. Well, not even mine. Mine's isn't in there, but my my children's. I have three children and I can tell you their names and their birthdays. Those are theirs. They're all my children. So, everything in that wallet is mine. And it's nothing else. And like I said, you can look it up and you can see for yourself. Everything in my purse and my wallet belongs to me. And they're all legit. Like I said, you can look them up and you can check. And the two IDs in there are both mine. They both have my ID and my names on them and my address. One is a passport photo and the other one is a regular BMV one. I went to the the Walgreens on Clark yesterday and got that done. The passport ID. And you can also look into that and see that that's the truth. All right, anything else in there? Uh, nothing I'm seeing that has any relevance. Like I said, all of those are mine and everything is mine and legit other than that. Let him get out of here. So, What? >> Those ones are mine. Those ones are legit. >> Okay, we still have to impound them anyway until you can prove that they are yours, okay? You can call the the the BMV the the Social Security office. I can tell you the names on them. I have three children. So, why are they being taken? Like I said, It's all going to go with your property. It's all going to be impounded. Impounded, what does that mean? It means going into our property. Okay, will I be able to get it back? Yeah. Because I can't replace them. Yeah. We have a property clerk. You can get your stuff back once we're done. As long as you're able to prove that they're yours, and yeah, she'll get them back. You can call the The detective the Social Security office on 73rd. The detective Everything in that, especially these two IDs, are mine and that in my purse. Okay. You can have them check up with Walgreens on Clark. I went and got the passport ID yesterday. What kind of ID? Well, right now we're you're under arrest for identity theft right Okay, good. I'm trying to take care of my kids. Hey, thanks. She's also in possession of Well, she's also in possession of a driver's license that has info on it, too. So, it's identity theft at the very least. Very least. Yeah. How many IDs does she have with different names on it or pictures? This is the same. Those are both the same? >> Yeah, this is the same driver's. So, just the one? And then she's claiming these three social security cards are her children's. Yeah, piece of paper. Which all have the same last name, I believe is hers. Correct? Fully? Uh, yeah. Which that might all check out, so a paper ID for identity theft right now. All right, we'll see about this check. All right. All right, guys. How much time can I get for this? Yeah, so what what they said they said they said the check is good. It's a good check. Okay, it's just under that other lady's name. Yeah, it's under someone else's name. Okay. But it's a valid check. All right. Hello. How much time can I get for this? That I don't know. That's up to a judge. If you found this analysis valuable, consider exploring our examination of similar cases. Your engagement helps us continue producing detailed legal breakdowns. Stay informed, stay safe, and remember that understanding the law protects everyone.
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