shopping and then saw her putting stuff in the bag. Went [music] downstairs, saw her trying to take off the sensor. She couldn't get it off, but then she walked out this stuff. And this is where she tried to take off the sensor. >> And as soon as she tried doing that, I just went downstairs cuz I already know. Let me just search you in here while we're >> sharp on you. >> Spread your feet. >> May 22nd, 2025. Inside a shopping mall at a location that has not been independently confirmed. A store's loss prevention associate watched a shopper move merchandise into a bag for close to 10 minutes before she tried and failed to remove the store's security sensor. She left with an estimated $300 in unpaid merchandise. Anyway, the real issue here is not whether she took the merchandise. It is how much legal authority a private store employee actually had to stop her and what changed the instant police took over. Uh came in here. I got a call. She was probably like 5 10 minutes into uh shopping and then saw her putting stuff in the bag. Went downstairs. Saw her trying to take off the sensor. She couldn't get it off. But then she walked out this stuff. >> She actually walked out the store. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I got I got I got >> Say again. Oh, she's gone. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, fine. So, she walked out of the store and you came back. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I brought her back upstairs and got this stuff. This stuff right here. >> You work at Sunbud? >> Yeah. No. >> Whatever that's called. >> Okay. Do you got video? >> Yeah. I was about to say you guys can't see that. >> Yeah. [snorts] Uh, >> you wanted to see her walking out or you want to see her put in the bag too? >> Both. Yeah. >> Just to confirm cuz we have to ask. You guys want complete action, right? What bag was she stuffing into her personal bag? >> Uh, yeah. She's got a Annie's bag. It's right under that uh table under there. Okay. >> See, this might be good. saw this closing right here. >> Yeah, that's everything. Yeah. >> And then she put the bag down on the floor right there. And then she started taking off the hanger. So, I already know. And then she just puts it in there. >> And this is where she tries to take off the sensor. >> And as soon as she tried doing that, I just went downstairs cuz I already know. >> Okay. So, you were watching her? >> Yeah, this is me watching her right now. And then see the sensor. >> Mhm. >> And she goes in there, tries to pop it off. >> And then I just I'm downstairs at this point. Well, maybe this will be my >> Do you even email these videos? >> Um, you bring them in on a disc usually or what do you guys do? >> Um, I'm not really too sure. I don't really deal with that. Did you? >> Yeah. If you leave it to me, I can just give it to my manager. He knows how to do all that stuff. >> I'll um if I don't hear anything, I'll try to check back with you. We don't really need the video, but we we always take it. So, >> yeah. Okay. >> All right. >> Sounds good. >> Do you do you want to save for this or? >> Yeah, I'll take I'll take that back. Fine. If I just put your phone back. >> So, I haven't watched this back and I wasn't on camera on here. So, you we're just going to have to like try to find her. Oh, there she is. Oh, she walks through the mall and >> Yeah, she walks through the mall and then that's me right behind her. >> Uh, >> and I just go up and she walked out with the bag and I just >> What did you say to her? >> I just told her, "Uh, I'm with Bos Golf Prevention and I just need you to come upstairs and get stuff back." >> She just kind of stood there for a couple seconds and she was like, "Okay." >> Yeah. Okay. Well, I got to talk to the prosecutor and the judge and everything, but >> let me just search you here while we're up here. Okay. >> Um, turn your face this way. >> You got nothing sharp on you. >> Spread your feet. Before police arrived, the store's ability to hold her rested entirely on what many states recognize as a merchants's privilege doctrine. That authority belongs to the business, not to law enforcement, and it does not carry Fourth Amendment weight on its own. That distinction matters because no constitutional claim attaches to the store's initial stop, only to whatever law enforcement does once they get involved. Once the responding officer stepped in and began a patown, a different legal standard took over. Under Terry versus Ohio, an officer may conduct a limited search for weapons when specific facts support a concern for safety separate from any authority to search for evidence. While that standard is a lower bar than a full search, it still requires more than a hunch. An officer has to point to specific articulable facts, not just the fact that a theft was reported. Still, a completed theft report from store staff who directly witnessed the concealment adds real weight to that safety calculus. That said, the physical demonstration on store video of her handling the sensor itself gives the patown a specific factual anchor beyond just relaying what a witness reported secondhand. What the officer decides to do once that patown is finished is where this case actually turns. What? Let's go. Oh, damn. And then I got to take this off. Try my best. >> Is it good? >> You been transporting her or you want me to? Uh, I can. Do you mind transport just so you can search her again when we get to? >> No, I'll find someone else. >> No, I got you. >> Did you get his name? >> Your loss prevention. >> Do they have any idea this happened? >> Um, well, >> cuz I'm not going to call your job and tell them anything like that. Well, they um I get we get off at 8, so I'm pretty sure this my shift is already over. >> Okay. >> Like I went like towards the end of my shift. >> Okay. Well, I mean, as long as you have a warrant or like anything crazy, you'll probably be released like as soon as I I type up your complaints, >> so it should be a big deal. >> You just have to show up to court for that. >> Thank you guys. I'm going, guys. No. >> Uh this way. >> Yeah. So we have to go through the mall and handcuff us. >> Mhm. >> Not not through the whole mall. Through the boss as the like where the mall or the movie theater is. >> It was just your bag and your phone. That's all you had on. Right. >> Yeah. >> Do you want to take your hat off? I don't know if that will help. You're not branded. No. You're good. Oh, this I just thought about it. That's literally like right out the door. >> I thought I walk through the mall. >> Just do the bus stops. >> So hopefully you don't know anyone about bus stops. >> Yeah. Well, if I do get fired, I'll just work hard for them. >> I mean, as long as you're getting home today. >> Yeah. >> Be home tomorrow. Well, you'll be home today. But it depends if they say anything to they go to my job and say something. >> It's the end of the world. >> No, cuz it's just so crazy. My job they like usually like three days and stuff. So like why do I have to do this? We'll be out of jail. Fine, guys. You'll be fine. We'll figure it out. >> We can go through here. >> Sure. This way. >> [clears throat] >> that way. >> Like most people they probably would have like ran but like I'm like bro it's just like I just might as well >> it's really not a big deal >> you know other stuff like >> and it's it was probably how much was it? >> It was like $300. Oh, >> that is a good amount. >> I mean, you didn't hurt anybody at the end of the day, >> right? >> I didn't hit anybody. >> Yeah. So, >> could have been worse. >> Don't make this a habit. >> No, that's why. >> No, as soon as I got arrested, >> cuz I know you remember me used to always take the floor. [laughter] little kid. It happened. >> It's like sometimes when you get older now like now. >> Yeah. >> All right. Let me check this before. Just step right in. Look left for me. It's gonna be impossible, but right quick, but um I know writing like I don't know. That's just like basically trespassing. Like if you show up, you can't That's basically saying if you show up and they call you and we find you there, we can arrest you because you're not supposed to be there. That's basically it. >> That happens to thousands of people all the time. >> Yeah. >> So that >> No, it'll pop up as anything. It's just as long as you don't show up there, you won't be arrested or anything. That's all it really is. Just that you're not allowed back. I'll take the free master. Yeah. You'll need someone to pick you up. So once we release you, uh, you're just basically free and someone have to come pick you up. Once we So, if you get released on a summon, which basically means you get released out of our custody >> and just show up to court, um we just release you out of our building. So, you you'll have to call someone for a ride or walk. >> Okay. That's something. What was that? >> Oh, >> yeah. >> I'm sure you have co-workers that done the same. >> I'm sure there's plenty of people who work there that have done the same. Hopefully I don't get fired by >> Yeah. Yeah. if you watch me know. >> Yeah, I think I don't I honestly don't know. either maybe he was just double checking to like fully make sure that you were doing it. Um yeah, I don't know. Probably to like build their case that you know Yeah. that you for sure did it. But I I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yep. Either way they could still report it. Yeah. It just depends on a person. Like there's some companies that will be like they just want their stuff back and that's it. Uh so it really just not to like tell you to do it somewhere else, but I'm just saying like >> Oh, okay. Yeah, >> right. Heat. Heat. You'll be tired. Please. Heat. Heat. There's a lawuit. There's a spaceship. Hopefully you get off your feet. Wind it up. All right. Go to that door. >> You got to walk like real slow. inside. All right. Um, when I take this off, I'll just put it on the back of your head. Okay. Same with this one. And then I'm going to short search you again. Spread your feet as much as you can. Try to face me. You can put your arms down. Okay, you can take a seat. Do you have to use the bathroom? Okay. No big deal. >> I'm irritated cuz it's like I I didn't even have to do it. It's like why do I do dumb [ __ ] >> Well, I appreciate you not running out and call us a whole big deal cuz it's really not a whole >> I might as well just give it back. >> Yeah, it's really not a whole big deal either. And then >> this is embarrassing. [snorts] >> Well, maybe this will be your final time. >> Are you able to email these videos >> or do you bring them in on a disc usually or what do you guys do? >> Um, I'm not really too sure. I don't >> If I leave you my email, could you try to figure it out? I can just give it to my man. >> Um, if you guys can too, can you guys write down your guys names? Okay, sounds good. >> I'll um if I don't hear anything, I'll try to check back with you. We don't really need the video, but we we always take it. So, >> yeah. Okay. >> All right. >> You stand up for me, man. >> I'll just I'll take that bag from you. I'll take your phone, too. You fine if I just put your phone in your bag? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> You can just come over here. Just face that. Put your hands behind your back. >> Loosen this. I don't want to get your hair clogged or nothing. >> Not too tight. You're good. >> Stay there. I got to double lock these so they don't tighten up on you. >> So, do you have >> uh do you have a criminal history with this? No. >> Do you have any warrants? >> Um, no. >> If you don't have any warrants, you don't have a criminal history. You should just be released on the summit. But I got to talk to the prosecutor and the judge and everything. But >> let me just search you here while we're up here. 410 under >> 410. You can transport there. You want me to? >> Uh, I can. Do you mind transport just so you can search her again when we get to the station? If not, I'll find someone else. >> Did you get his name? >> [snorts] >> Um, I get we get off at 8, so I'm pretty sure it's my shift is already over. >> Okay. >> Like I went like towards the end of my shift. >> Okay. Well, if not, I mean, as long as you have a warrant or like anything crazy, you'll probably be released like as soon as I I tell you about your complaints. So, it shouldn't be a whole big deal. >> Have to show up to court for that. >> Yep. Thank you guys. >> So we have to go through and >> unfortunately >> not through the whole mall through the bus stop as like where the mall the weekend. >> It was just your bag and your phone. That's all you had on you, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> You want to take your hat off? I don't know if that one brand. >> Oh, this I just thought about it. That's literally like right. I thought I had to walk through the mall. >> Just do the mouse. >> So hopefully you don't have any more mouths. >> Yeah. >> Well, I do get tired of just record. >> I mean, as long as you're getting off today. >> Yeah. >> Be home in line. Well, you'll be home today. >> But it depends if they say anything too. They go to my job and say something. >> Yo, cuz my vlog usually get like so like How old are you? >> 20. >> Oh, you got plenty of time in life. This ain't no big deal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let's go this way. >> Shortest way. Like most people they probably wouldn't like with like but I'm like bro it's just like I just might as well >> it's really not a big deal. Like as long as you don't have other stuff like warrants, like it's really not a big deal. >> And it's about how much worth it. >> It was like $300. >> 300 293. >> That is a big deal. You didn't hurt anybody, right? >> I didn't hit anybody. >> Just don't make this a habit cuz that's when that's when it becomes a problem. No, just it seems like I got arrested and you feel tired like like don't do this [ __ ] ever again cuz I know younger me used to always take from stores and stuff and it's like it happens and it's like sometimes when you get older it's like installed in your head. >> You can't get away with anything nowadays. >> Older now it's like no now I'm going to jail. >> The routine questions the officer asked afterward age warrant status criminal history sit in a different legal category entirely. Miranda versus Arizona protects against custodial interrogation designed to produce an incriminating statement about the offense itself. Booking questions used to process someone are generally treated differently. That said, the line is not absolute. Courts have found that a booking question crosses into interrogation the moment it is designed to get an incriminating answer rather than simply to process someone into custody. Once the decision was made to detain her for transport, the legal basis for the search shifted again. Under Chiml versus California, a search incident to a lawful arrest can extend to the arrestes person and the area within immediate reach. While that authority covers more ground than a safety pat down alone would allow, it is not unlimited. It still has to stay tied to the arrest itself, not become a pretext to dig for unrelated evidence. The trespass warning near the end sits on a separate legal track entirely. Being barred from a property after an incident like this is generally a civil or administrative consequence governed by state trespass after notice law, not the underlying criminal charge. Which exact state statute applies has not been confirmed. So no specific code section is cited here. Still, regardless of the exact code number, the practical effect stays the same. Returning to a barred property later converts what could have stayed a single theft case into a second independent criminal exposure. The responding officer's conduct on this footage was procedurally careful throughout clear explanations. A safety pat down before any escalation and specific steps like double locking the handcuffs aimed at reducing unnecessary discomfort during a low-level arrest. The individual detained was fully cooperative once confronted. She did not run, did not argue, and stayed consistent about her age and the value of what she took. The one moment that stands apart from that cooperation came earlier. The attempt to physically defeat the security sensor before leaving the store. That earlier decision is what a prosecutor is more likely to focus on than anything that happened after. First, a pat down for safety is not the same thing as a search for evidence. And knowing that difference matters if you are ever the person being searched, one requires specific articulable suspicion of danger. The other generally requires an arrest already underway. Neither one requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt at that stage. The standards are deliberately lower and different from a trial standard. Second, routine booking questions like age or warrant status are not a Miranda moment. But the instant a question starts probing what actually happened during the offense itself, that protection can attach and the distinction is not always obvious in real time. Third, a trespass warning does not expire when a criminal case closes. It is a separate legal status and returning to a barred property later, even for something completely unrelated, can trigger a brand new arrest on its own. A store's authority to stop a shoplifter and a police officer's authority to search one, are not the same power. And where one ends and the other begins is exactly what decided how this case played out. If there's a case worth this kind of breakdown, leave it in the comments. Thanks for watching.