on August 25th 2022 dispatch was
notified of a road rage incident at an
intersection in La Crosse Wisconsin an
off-duty Sergeant was on his way to work
when a vehicle passed him at 60 miles
per hour he stopped behind this vehicle
at a red light but when it turned green
the vehicle didn't proceed even as
Traffic Ahead started moving while
trying to pass in the left turn lane the
off-duty Sergeant was blocked the
agitated driver later identified as a 39
year old male named Kevin soon exited
his vehicle and approached the sergeant
with a concealed hand in response the
sergeant drew his firearm without aiming
Kevin briefly backed off then returned
with a concealed hand prompting the
sergeant to now Point his firearm Kevin
flipped him off and went back inside his
vehicle he eventually started following
the Sergeant's vehicle and called 9-1-1
claiming the firearm was aimed
after locating Kevin's vehicle an
officer initiated a traffic stop and saw
him gesturing from his window toward the
car in front
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93 is taking off it's going north on 6th
Street to Lacrosse Kevin continued to
follow the off-duty Sergeant to the City
Hall parking lot and promptly exited his
vehicle with his hands raised
here
okay keep your hands where I can see
them okay
you get on your knees please
keep your hands where I can see them
okay
no I told the 911
you're just gonna place you in the cops
handcuffs you know okay
he pointed a gun at me when I was coming
around the corner I call 9-1-1 why am I
in cops we're just making sure
everything's safe we don't know what's
going on we're trying to figure out
what's going on you want to stand up for
me please okay
we're just gonna go in front of the
squad here why am I in trouble we're
trying to figure out what's going on
what is it Kevin Kevin nice to meet you
I'm sorry I called you guys okay we're
gonna check you make sure that you don't
have anything that's gonna hurt me yeah
why would I you don't care any Pocket
Edition no okay I got a gun playing at
me I'm under arrest
until I figure out that everybody is
safe I can't get in the whole what
happened why do you think I chase them
because my phone's still going with the
911 dispatcher I'll say hey feels like
he's got a meth pipe in his great pants
pocket yeah okay yeah no no yeah it's in
the fifth bucket okay
we don't need the half of the department
on this I wasn't about to jump into a
Pursuit as like the sixth car it's
talked about confusings oh he was super
confusing yeah yeah
guys this is Kevin I'm not gonna fight
you guys I got a gun for you at least
yep
what did I do wrong what what did I do
wrong by getting a gun point at me we're
just trying to figure it out but you
wouldn't stop for us right away because
I was chasing him right but you can't be
chasing people no matter what but he's
going to get a waypointed gun at me I
had no gun we're out with him we know
who he is is it your is it there's other
officers over there okay but is it your
your Deputy or something you can't point
something that somebody like that yes
sir they try to Ram your vehicle for not
going fast enough you guys don't have
permission so don't even think about it
do the right thing this is what I get
huh we're just trying to figure out the
situation right now Kevin okay let me
take a breather yeah take a deep breath
everything's fine okay this is this is a
minor thing okay he's getting changed
already inside so I'm gonna talk to him
okay we need to figure out what this is
before you can be five minutes late all
right so I'm trying to gather both sides
of the story you're obviously in
handcuffs you're not free to leave at
this point what I still want to do
though is gather your information your
side of things why am I not free to
leave at this point because get a meth
pipe on you and they did a high risk
traffic stop based on some information
that they had but I was the one on hold
on 9-1-1 so that meth pipe is void right
now because it shouldn't have been found
because I was the one that called with
my wife in danger with somebody pointing
a pistol at me correct am I correct I
don't know I wasn't in the car am I
correct was my life in danger with
somebody pointed and pissed like me
Kevin you're asking me questions that
are really cool no it's not rhetorical
was would your life be in danger if you
were appointed a pistol at I would say
yes okay so that's
that's why I called 9-1-1 before we get
into this that's why I called 9-1-1
correct so the dispatcher said once the
vehicle's license plate I said it I said
I'm not letting them go okay before you
get in yeah I would like to read you
okay that's what I was getting too good
put it in the car
I want you in the car please yes or no
we can take you in a second just can you
please send the car for me that's all
I'm asking thank you
so you're just going crazy I said just
you can take a seat like that let's take
a seat like that
while speaking with Kevin a strong odor
of intoxicants was emitting from his
person
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circus real quick yeah it's literally
walking out of the pdic six squads I'm
like no we're not doing this he said he
pointing the gun at you yes keep quiet
oh you think I called 9-1-1 how do you
know it's a gun because he
and if I can show you [ __ ] your hand
back like you like you'd be a gangster
grab a bit grab a pistol seriously right
hand no seriously I'll show you put your
hand up
they'll put the bottom three fingers
down
right like that now push here sideways
that's how he's holding his gun it was a
Glock
nine that's serious okay you want to
estimate me either that was a Sig you
know him he was so familiar Kevin Kevin
I don't know Home Alone switch the car I
want to figure out more it's because if
we're gonna do a gun charge I want to
make sure that well who had the gun him
or did you see it I don't have any gun
yet he's claiming that he's climbing up
a gun pointed at him so that's what I
have to figure out I called that for a
reason but when we pull you over like
that and he gets away I know you're
reporting
record okay I'll be right back Kevin
okay I appreciate your cooperation who's
doing are you doing anything on this all
right yeah I just got here it's awesome
that's my attitude too I know I'm just
confused who hit the freaking gun is it
him or no he's saying he's saying that a
hunter at the gun
I think if this guy's following man I
don't know through traffic and like
blocks him into traffic or something man
I don't pulls his gun it's like police
officer back up working on the ground or
something and then this guy freaks out
just pulled the gun on me well then then
this guy calls 9-1-1 I guarantee the gun
we're looking for is Man Down was gone
because mandahano felt a reasonable fear
for his safety off duty you know your
rookies aren't gonna have your badge in
a week right right or what because you
guys can't search that vehicle you know
that right I called him an emergency
response and I'm in trouble my lawyer is
going to eat your guys's ass up okay
give me a phone call I want my lawyer
right now before you guys even touch
that vehicle I want my lawyer right now
you know I'm right I want a lawyer all
right I'm done talking just just so you
know I will call I will subpoena the 901
dispatcher saying I called in you guys
arrested me for a gun being pointed at
me this you know what's your legs back
that's fine just so you guys know I kind
of do smell booze on this breath
actually put those in your pocket yeah I
was yeah but I'm cutting down so I
honestly forgot it was a cutting down on
how much you use yeah everything else I
will like subpoena every one of you and
all your body cams in and everything
okay I'll take the meth like charge okay
that's what we're figuring out right now
I've been drinking juice okay so there
was no reason for him
all right I hear you I want a lawyer
here okay your Crystal Clear Kevin take
the math pipe charger okay all right
thanks did you hear that
I'll take the fight but yeah I was
worked up I've been drinking too oh
he's yelling here at him yeah man you
just want to roll down your window
what's up man what am I under arrest for
apparently you admitted to having a meth
pipe on you so that's a Mr meters
so Kevin Kevin listen we were talking to
the other party involved right now to
figure out where we're going from here
okay can you point your gun at me I
didn't I'm not saying I don't believe
you we're talking that party okay we
don't have a gun I don't know not on you
no you don't I'm trying to explain the
situation to you okay claustrophobic
there was a lot of confusion about there
was mention of a gun as a police officer
arriving on scene with dozens of other
police officers none of us knew who
involved had a gun could have been the
other person could have been you could
have been the off-duty police officer I
don't know an operator so it's an off
duty police officer huh I don't know
that's what the problem is we don't know
we don't know who else had it he just
told me what it was no I'm giving you
possibilities no no you don't give me a
possibility you told me what it was
let's do it one of the possibilities
let's do it one of the possibilities why
would I have a gun who said I had a gun
my
you just admitted that it was an
off-duty police officer told the truck
let's go to court he pointed gun at me
the recording is there 12 of the truck
tow the [ __ ] truck okay I'm done
explaining it I don't want to hear it
anymore okay come on water told the
truck you want the window down because
you're claustrophobia though no you can
suck my no you don't want the window
down nope up now after conducting a
records check it was revealed that his
driving status was suspended
subsequently an officer conducted a
canine sniff on Kevin's vehicle
resulting in a positive alert
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boy two years ago boys
a firm yes sir thank you
just the weirdest this is you should see
it on video
camera catches it yeah I bet you know
you guys are wasting your time right
I'll tell you right where the weed is
boxer hey officer a subsequent search
discovered drug paraphernalia and two
baggies containing a total of 71.5 grams
of marijuana
to be here when it starts you guys broke
that
we got the Twisted Tea open container
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here's the weed he was being honest
about the weed Hey where's my lawyer
Kevin lawyer I don't know he's supposed
to be your present when you search that
vehicle so the reason that they're
searching the vehicle because the dog
get on some [ __ ] [ __ ]
so Steve
do you want to hear my explanation
there's no drugs that are excessive pot
okay I'll tell you right where it's at
in my backpack right there it's right
there open it up let's just work it one
thing at a time this is Officer I asked
for a lawyer didn't I not you did
where's my lawyer I'm not recorded for
the search because I said you guys
cannot search that vehicle without my
lawyer present correct because it is not
my vehicle right there was a gun pulled
on me by a deputy right under federal or
off duty Deputy correct correct am I
right or my right
am I right your silence says but I'm
right I've been very frustrated and I
can understand that but I'm trying to no
hold on that's my question first
was there a gun pulled on me by an
off-duty Deputy what does that mean was
there a gun pulled on me by an app duty
Deputy do you want to talk about this
did you get out of your car over here
yeah
tell me what happened did he pull a gun
on me I didn't mirandize you said none
of those counts I recognized that yeah
I asked for a lawyer when right yeah
yeah you know let's talk
well you asked for a lawyer I can't talk
to you about it just asked me if I want
to talk what would happen I said yeah
you said no that matters because you
never didn't bring me my Miranda's right
no because you asked for a lawyer yeah
present when you search the vehicle
Kevin did you ever no everyone in
circles I'm gonna let you take over did
you we're past that right now dude after
duty full gun on me I was not here for
that I'm here to talk to you right now
okay well you've been talking to a
sergeant okay I want him here now if you
were just talking to him I'm on my water
here your lawyer is not here at this
point there's never been a lawyer listen
I do want to bet because I'm well aware
I don't have to because I know it's
legal we don't ever have lawyers here
when we're searching why are you
searching okay right now listen we're
past that right now
you're the only reason that I am here
right now is to run you through
standardized Fields Riot test are you
going to cooperate and perform
standardized skills to write a test you
will okay
you piece of [ __ ] why are you being rude
to me why are you being rude to me I got
a gun pulled on me and I'm [ __ ]
anthos because it was one of your
buddies make a record I want all
subpoenas want every report subpoenaed
all of your guys's body cams too
you know I have a lot of money right
yeah a ton of money that's awesome my
lawyers is gonna figure you guys apart
you're probably not going to ever be on
the force again just so you know if you
doubt me wait till tomorrow sounds good
he was then transported to the police
department to perform standardized field
sobriety tests all right Kevin you're
gonna cooperate if I don't get a
handcuffs and everything okay perfect
have you guys searched my record yet oh
oh yeah yeah that's why I just get on a
car like this okay a couple quick
questions do you have any problems with
your eyes at all yeah what's wrong with
them drunk you're drunk okay
um do you wear glasses at all though
supposed to you do okay prescription but
you don't have any none of those matters
really okay
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what I want you to do is follow tip my
finger with your eyes and your eyes only
do you understand yes all right
foreign
don't laugh
then okay
okay
I know but I told you guys have to give
you every opportunity
I'd say Okay a record's three nine just
again that's pretty high I've seen a bit
higher in Lacrosse though are you from
lacrosse no Kevin took the preliminary
breath test which resulted in
0.165 good all right can you grab the
strawkey on there yeah what is it one
six five not too high all right place
transmitter back down here
nice track you guys didn't think I knew
this was coming so I think everybody the
same thing as everybody else kids right
right while double checking him the
officer inadvertently nicked his balls
prompting Kevin to threaten with a kick
yeah
my balls again I'm gonna kick it hey
better now you don't have a yellow
felony
another one just be a little bit more
gentle the balls please I don't give a
[ __ ] about another felony because you
want me to whack you in the balls no
okay you're a little bit more gentler
that's all I'm saying I'm just searching
sir yeah can I get a copy of their badge
numbers first please two seven zero two
no no we got it right now I guess you're
right do not force me I'm not playing I
want my lawyer I'm not playing games
either I don't have to yes you do have
to go
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where's the guy that was pointing the
gun at me that I was on the phone with
9-1-1 at where's he at did he drive his
car here is he in cuffs why because he
wasn't drunk what he has a gun because
he's a cop thank you that's all you need
to know let's go let's go okay you guys
are so
what's his tax level what's
did you order tax level
just so you so now you got to get you
got a guy that pointed a gun at me with
no talk screen on him you know you guys
are right no top screen on your Deputy
you guys are dumb [ __ ] you
don't need touch screen on him why
because people officers are Justified
and pointing guns at people he was off
duty pieces he's still a police officer
so what was it what was his Justified
justification I want copies of that
camera like too there's cameras on that
light too you guys are all take me to
jail right now come on let's go no let's
go relax give me the tail come on we're
not going to jail yet why I want to go
yeah let's go
hold me against my will let's throw you
piece of [ __ ] you need to do a talk
screen on your Deputy that bullet gun
you know what this is the only time I
wish I was black because he would have
shot me you guys would all be you should
look up how many cases I got off on my
own without a lawyer can I have a smoke
ball rolling please I've been
Cooperative maybe I'll let my lawyer be
nice to your Deputy will you just make
this all go away you can't smoke in my
squad anyways I'm not trying to smoke
your squash something nobody's talking
to you well I'm not gonna let somebody
smoke
you guys supposed to Minneapolis that's
what you did you don't think I'm not
having my girlfriend call the news
company right all your body cams are
getting subpoenaed because I'm going to
pay at least 25 000 for my fire you know
why because I can't have one more thing
on my record because it would have been
a better off shooting it seriously a
little outstanding citizen what can you
hear me okay what informing the accused
for him I want my money here before you
read that to me oh well under the
influence of alcohol or drugs or both no
it wasn't no it wasn't somebody
shut the [ __ ] up or you are suspected of
driving or being on I can't wait till I
see you on trees I'm gonna beat the [ __ ]
out of you
just tell your wife to get her [ __ ]
what I really do wrong
he's just always he won't even come by
he's got to come in the door and sit on
this computer
later on when Kevin discussed the
charges with jail staff he said I didn't
mean I would beat him up if he was
wearing a badge if I saw him without a
badge I would beat him up
Kevin was charged with felony battery
threat to an officer misdemeanor counts
of possession of THC possession of drug
paraphernalia and disorderly conduct he
also received several traffic citations
including OWI first offense Kevin was
eventually found guilty of battery
threat to an officer all his misdemeanor
charges were dismissed but read in on
top of that his traffic citations were
dismissed on the prosecutor's motion
except for the OWI
ultimately his sentence was withheld and
was only given two years of probation
with conditions online records indicate
that Kevin has an extensive criminal
history dating back in 2003 involving
numerous felony charges moreover he has
been taken into custody four times
within this year
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