Welcome back, guys. Today, we're in Florida with Officer Pocket Patrol, who's about to have a very long afternoon thanks [music] to the cigarette philosopher. It starts as a simple littering situation, the kind that normally ends with a quick ticket and everyone goes home. Instead, our man decides this is the hill he's willing to legally misunderstand himself on. You'll notice the confidence level is extremely high despite the stakes being a cigarette butt. Stick around because this somehow escalates into threats, lawsuits, and a surprisingly predictable ride to jail. And yes, the moment where he realizes none of this is working, it's coming. ID right now, and then you can pick that up or you can get a ticket. ID. Do you think I'm playing around? You're going to arrest me? I Yeah, I can. Give me your ID. You can't arrest me. Bro, I need your ID right now. Okay? ID right now. ID Why don't you just take that out of my mouth? >> Listen to me. I need your ID. I'm not playing with you. Do I look like I'm playing? Please give me your ID. >> just take that out of my mouth? Please give me your ID right now. >> Is it a law against smoking? It's a law against throwing your cigarette butt out lit. It's a law against Yeah, it's called littering. >> Where am I supposed to throw it? You're supposed to put it out and then put it in your pocket. >> did. Put it in my pocket. >> Yeah, put it in your pocket. What's his ID? You see he's got one? I need a name now. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I need a name now. >> Wait, wait, wait. Let's talk. Let's calm down. Let's go. >> No, I'm not. Now I'm done. I asked you nicely multiple times to give me an ID. >> No, you didn't. Give me your ID or we'll go right into my car. >> on me. Then you better give me a name. And then I'm going to write you a ticket for littering. Okay, write me a ticket. I need your name. >> Write me a ticket. Bro, I'm going to put you in handcuffs here in a minute for obstruction. No, you said you was going to write me a ticket. >> Are you not listening to me? You said you just said you was going to write me a ticket. >> Tell me your name. Write me a ticket. Tell me I need your name to write that ticket. Oh, we've reached the lawsuit phase already. That was quick. The cigarette philosopher is promising to come for the jacket, which I assume is legal terminology learned somewhere deeply unreliable. Fun fact, threatening to sue doesn't stop an arrest. It just gives officers something to chuckle about. Later, Officer Pocket Patrol, meanwhile, completely unfazed, professional calm. You can almost hear the internal countdown beginning. Give me a ticket so I can take it to court, and you're going to lose that. You want to just go to jail then. You can't take me to jail. Yes, you just committed an offense in front of me. >> Then I'm going to sue you. I'm going to come for your jacket. >> All right. I'm going to come for your jacket. >> How about if you give me a name? I'm going to come for your jacket. Okay. >> You arrest me, I'll be right back. Can I have my cigarette back, please? No, cannot. It's a law against smoking cigarettes. It's a law against smoking cigarettes. >> No, it's a law against >> Okay, it is. So, give me my cigarette back. He doesn't want to give me ID or name, and he just threw a cigarette out on the ground after being told that he can't. Ma'am. Hey, man. I know my laws. Always delivered with confidence, rarely with accuracy. Refusing to identify yourself during a lawful detention can lead to obstruction charges in many jurisdictions, including Florida. Two sentences, that's all we need. The cigarette philosopher thinks he's winning the argument, but this is the part where the paperwork quietly starts stacking up. Officer Pocket Patrol, still patient, but the patience meter is not infinite. Sir. Sir, sir, sir. I know my laws. >> Yeah, good. You're going to go to jail then. >> no law against smoking cigarettes. >> No, there isn't. But there is against littering. You just violated You just violated my rights. >> Did I? By taking my cigarette out of my mouth. >> Okay. That's fine. >> Do you not know that? >> Yeah. Is your body camera on? It sure is. It is? Yep. You sure it's on? I don't see a red light. >> It's right there. I don't see a red light. >> Okay, I don't really care. Can Can I come here? Yeah. Can you come here? Put your hands behind your back. What for? Put your hands behind your back. >> Can you come here? Please, sir. Okay. Can you come here for a second? All right. So, he won't identify himself, and he just flicked the cigarette after I told him I have to do so. Yeah. And now he refuses to ID himself. Going back to my car. >> Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I'll be right back. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Y'all What are we doing, man? I'm coming for that jacket. Okay. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. >> anything on you that's You have anything on you? >> questions. You have anything on you >> Stop. that's going to hurt me. Stop doing that. You got any drugs on you? >> Stop doing that. I am walking. What do you mean? Just walk. No, I don't consent to no search. Is your body search on? Is your body camera on? It sure is. Is your body camera on? I do not consent to no search. You don't have to consent. Now we get the classic I do not consent line, which is fine. You're allowed to say that, but it doesn't undo an arrest already in motion. Consent matters for searches, not for whether the cuffs are going on. The cigarette philosopher is speaking like he's narrating his own courtroom victory while being gently guided toward the patrol car. Officer Pocket Patrol, still calm, still methodical. This is heading exactly where we all knew it would. You don't have to consent. for no reason. They arrested me Yeah, you're getting arrested. >> Yeah, I'll switch sides with you. Hey, let's go. No, you're not going in the car, my friend. Yes, I'm going to go in the car. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, hell yeah. What's your name? >> Oh, look, you got ID on Don't you dare search my car. Don't you dare search my wallet. >> You go ahead and jump back. >> Don't you dare search my wallet. >> I'm going to search your wallet. >> No, you're not. Well, cuz I'm going to sue your I'm going to sue your ass. >> Okay, you can. What's your name? What's your name? What is your name? What is your name? As a as a as a law-abiding citizen, I'm asking you what is your name? You had the chance to >> As a law-abiding citizen, I'm asking your name. Sir, I'm asking your name. Hey, listen. You got anything on you that's going to I'm asking your name. I already told you. Hop on in. What is your name? It's Sergeant Kent. Get in the car. All right. Is your body camera on, right? It is. All right, let's go. There's one in here, too. >> Let's get it. Let's get it. Unlawful. Don't Don't you dare strap me up. I'm going to unbuckle that [ __ ] If you do, I'm going to charge you with another charge. >> You did Let's go. >> Okay. You said a ticket. But you arrested me. Because you wouldn't identify yourself. What just happened? He littered and he wouldn't identify himself. I don't know. Probably he's been drinking. Here's your license back. Thank you. Can you just give him a chance? Well, he made He made a poor choice with what he did. I'll explain. I'll explain it to you in just a second, all right? Let me explain this first of all. Uh you can dispose of it later. >> That's for his own. Here, I'll put it back in here. I don't care. I just didn't want it on the ground. I'll explain I'll explain everything to you in just a second, okay? Let me explain this first of all. All right, first and foremost, uh I got you 100 on radar, and I was going to follow you faster than that, okay? If I were to write you a full speed ticket for all that, it would be mandatory court date. You have to go stand in front of a judge in Sarasota County, okay? So, what I did is I wrote you for 99 mph. That way you don't have to go to court, okay? Your fine amount is right here. I'm going to circle it, and I'll explain it in just a second. I'm also issuing a citation for not changing the address on your license. You told me you moved three times. The most recent was 2 months ago. It's probably why your registration hasn't caught up to you as well, because you're not updating your license. Do me a favor, turn that over and read the very back of it. At the bottom. 30 days. Anytime you move, I'm going to I'm going to get to that in a second, okay? You could have a more serious one as well, all right? You good with him? Yeah, I'm good. I'll write you two warnings, okay? I'm writing you a warning for not having proof of insurance in the vehicle, all right? I'll take you at your word for having proof of insurance, but just not having it with you, okay? That would be a $116 ticket if I were to write you one, okay? It's a warning. Yeah, I need you to follow what I'm telling you, okay? So you can understand it. That is a warning for not having proof of insurance. I'll explain your whole body thing here in just a second, but this is about your traffic stuff, okay? That's a warning for not having proof of insurance in vehicle. This is a warning for not changing the address on your registration as well. That is actually a criminal offense, okay? You could be arrested for that. You don't want that to happen, right? You got to take care of business with your car and your license. You got to go down to the DMV, get your license changed over to reflect your true and correct address on both your license and on your registration, okay? All right, back to the original, okay? This is your speeding citation right here. And this is your citation for not changing the address on your license, okay? The fine amounts are circled on both. The speeding citation is a moving violation, okay? This is an information sheet. Everything on here is the same thing that's on the back of your citation, but this is easier to understand, okay? Your fine amount right now is this amount right here, okay? $281. If you take traffic school Have you been to traffic school for any tickets? How long ago? More than a year? 6 7 months 6 7 months ago? You can only You can only go once a year, so it's important for you to find out when you went, okay? If it's been more than a year, then you can take traffic school again, but you can only take it once a year and five times in your life. All right. So, you need to find out when you took it last. Regardless, you've got 30 days to take care of these, okay? This is the information sheet. There are three options on the back. They're all highlighted. So, your buddy, I don't know if it's cuz he's been drinking, but the officer told him not to throw the cigarette out and he did it anyway. Probably cuz he's been drinking. The The average person probably [music] wouldn't have done that. Would you agree? And a person who's been drinking or hasn't been drinking probably wouldn't have done that, but he did. So, he stepped out. He told him not to throw the cigarette out and went just like that, flicked it out, and then he refused to identify himself. And here's the part that always surprises them. It wasn't really about the cigarette anymore. It was the refusal to identify. Obstruction is the add-on nobody expects, but everybody earns. Notice how the situation could have ended minutes earlier with a minor citation. Instead, we've upgraded to a trip to jail and bonding discussion. The cigarette philosopher is still convinced he's about to get paid, which I admire the optimism. So, if he could have got a citation for littering and you guys would be on your way. And then he refused to identify himself. So, that's called obstruction. So, it's a misdemeanor. It's a basic charge. He's going to be going to Sarasota County Jail and it's a misdemeanor. It's a minor misdemeanor, so he'll probably be able to get him bonded out with a $150 fine, most likely. Hey, hey, hey, what you doing? It is. Okay, so what you arresting me for? Obstruction. Obstruction of what? Of justice. Obstruction of what? Ah, you can't answer. Obstruction of what? Exactly. Like I said, I'm going to get paid today. Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yeah. >> [laughter] >> I'm going to get paid. I'm going to get paid. I'm going to sue your ass. Oh, what what what county are you working out of? What county? What county? So, your insurance can come for your jacket. Your insurance going going going to talk to you and say, "Hey, mister, why the [ __ ] is he suing us?" Oh, he sued us because what? And you know what they going to ask for? Your body camera footage. Let's get it. Let's go. You think that you arresting me for no reason? Let's get it. Let's get it. Uh-huh. Still on Street in Punta Gorda? Hey, hey, hey, shut up. Shut up. Freedom of speech. Shut the [ __ ] up. Don't ask me no [ __ ] questions. You You did a unlawful search. I'm going to sue your ass. I'm going to sue the [ __ ] out of So, you don't want to answer. Is that what you're doing? the [ __ ] out of you, bro. All right, cool. I'm doing. We're going straight to the jail. That's what we're doing. Let's see how long I stay there. Let's see how long I stay there. It really doesn't matter to me. I'm asking your name. I already told you multiple times. >> What is your name? It'll be on your citation. I already told you. What is your name? It's on your body camera footage and you said it's on your camera footage. What is your name? So, he is refusing to say his name. As a public servant, he is refusing to say his name. What is your name? What is your name? As a public servant, this man is refusing to say his name. No, don't get out the car. Stand in the car. Come on. Let's go. You want to go to war? Let's go. You Hey, you giving me a payday. I don't give a [ __ ] You giving me a payday. I'm going to sue the [ __ ] out of you. >> up charged with obstruction, a misdemeanor, all stemming from a cigarette and a refusal to give his name, which as it turns out is what happens when courtroom theories meet roadside reality. The lawsuit predictions continue, but historically those don't age particularly well. Anyway, thanks for watching, guys. If you enjoyed this one, drop a like, share it with someone who thinks arguing improves outcomes, and subscribe [music] for more. See you in the next one.