QUIT TOUCHING ME. [ __ ] TOUCHING ME, BRO. STOP >> QUIT TOUCHING ME. GET THE [ __ ] OFF OF ME, BRO. >> BRO, RELAX. >> OKAY, STOP. >> Quit pulling on me, bro. Quit pulling on me, bro. >> No, I'm not. >> I ain't ditching. >> Get back. On July 15th, 2021 in Akran, Ohio, a window tint stop exposed legal gaps on both sides with consequences extending well beyond the original violation. >> What's up, man? >> I was wondering why. >> Can I me? >> I didn't. telling like acting look like I got >> I got a picture. >> I don't want I got pulled over though. >> No, he ain't got a seat belt on. Now you got seat belts on. >> So you got a seat belt on the back. >> I know. >> All right. What's up, man? We The reason we stopped you is the window tent. All right. >> Oh, okay. That that was a valid reason. Okay. >> Stop you before. >> No. I just want to make sure y put us over in the bush. You ain't never stopped me. >> You wish you look familiar. >> Roll down back. >> Hey, roll down the back window, my man. >> Thank you. >> Y'all can't even tell the [ __ ] we looking like you look like I [ __ ] >> You guys got IDs. >> What's up? >> Hey, man. >> Ticking, bro. >> You don't have a seat belt, so I can get your ID for one. All right. >> What? Damn. >> Relax, dude. Where's your bag? >> You can't just put it on now. You got to give me your ID. >> Pull me off, man. Pull me over. I took it off. Stop. >> Listen, listen, listen, listen. >> Look, I already pointless. >> I already explained. >> Why you want to ID? >> I already explained to you. >> I'll give you my ID, but he just stop. Why you want to ID me? >> I told you. I already explained to you. >> I'll give you I'm just saying this, but it's pointless. It's all pointless. >> All right. Well, >> as long as you all know it's all pointless. >> All right. Where you guys head to? >> Stopping this for intention. [ __ ] out here dying left and right. Y ain't caught nobody yet. Y'all here stopping these forts, bro. Yo, >> you guys got IDs, >> huh? >> We just said that. >> I got I got >> cuz I heard you. >> Is that right, man? >> You guys got >> We just said that. >> I got I got a picture. You want to see a picture of it? >> Oh, I don't know who the [ __ ] >> I need to go. >> I got to show you a picture. >> I don't know who the [ __ ] >> All right, man. >> Well, no. I mean it's my I'm the only one I got to identify. Me and him the only people I got identify >> what you guys all been out of shape for like >> you said why we out of shape. >> Why you like >> because this I mean y'all gave us a lot of reason but at first we was mad like what the [ __ ] is these lights coming on for? But now you said that's cool. >> We'll take I mean we can we can show you like window t man it's something to get stuff for but you cool with us and we we just go about your business about and then I told you like listen man. No, but we know our laws. We know don't know about identify ourselves in the passenger seat. But you right. I do because I got my >> Listen, if you if you had your seat belt on, >> you told me kick. >> Right. Right. That's what I said. That's what I said. I ain't got to say nothing but not got to wear your stuff. You seat a vehicle. >> I could get out and walk right now and go. My house is down there. Like, >> well, guess what? The more you cooperate, the faster you'll be out get home. Like, what do you want from me? the [ __ ] out of here. >> Trying to [ __ ] with us. I feel like really [ __ ] >> cuz if y'all really was trying to get us go about our day, what's the problem? Why they got why you >> Because why? Because why go hard in the paint to get their identity? Y'all don't have to. And if they want to be if they don't want to give it to them, they don't have to. >> Hey, hey, roll your window down. >> That was him. My fault. That was me. get their IDs and then check everybody. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. >> Your tent. >> What's that? >> You know your name? >> Yeah, >> right. >> You just told me I could have even said that and I could have kickboxed. So why you ain't going to kickbox? What they said? >> What do you mean kickbox? >> You said it. >> What's your name, my man? Stop [ __ ] with chill out. Chill out. What's going on? Stop this. Stop this for the >> He's going to get their IDs and then he's going to check everybody. I >> going to get their identification. Okay. >> Yeah. >> What's that? >> I got a picture of it, but I got five billion pictures. >> I don't even need like in the backseat. Just >> I don't have I don't I don't I'm the shower trying to go home. Y'all [ __ ] with us. Y'all pulling bottles. Like I'm confused. >> It's cool. It's cool. That don't even matter. And then the thing is you looked at him and you probably like, "Oh, this another black." You feel me? Y'all trying to [ __ ] around and this ain't that. Get get him together for his tit or whatever the [ __ ] on. Let's get this [ __ ] on the road. >> Like me all about me. >> That's my >> I know, but I'm only really annoyed by it cuz I don't Was you driving? >> I was driving. >> You pulled in. You looked when you open the door. Y'all pulled right in and we put in. >> We were pulled in before you guys did, >> right? And after we pulled in, what y'all do? What y'all do? Stop up there. We said, "Watch on some weird shit." And what you do be on some weird [ __ ] >> So I do kind of feel like >> I know. Like I said, when you open the door, he looked >> Did I pull you over before? >> No. >> He said that. I didn't even like what I feel like just pul this you ain't got nobody >> you didn't ate the [ __ ] acting we wouldn't ate it all n I just can't but I'm saying like asking for my ID little girl I ain't got no [ __ ] ID cards I ain't got I don't like Y don't need nothing from me. What? >> You told me you weren't 16. >> I told you I was 20. I'm not about to lie to you. I'm grown as [ __ ] I'm just saying. You don't know how old I am. >> So, it's always me. What I call ID? It's me. It's always me. I've been saying this since 1998. >> All right. Hey, I'm going to get you this window tent. All right. Holy smoker. You want to walk up there, man? >> I'm going to go up there with me in case you >> Why is that? >> Cuz what you just said to me, bro? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What did I say to you? >> You just said that you thought I was somebody else. So now I feel like that's why y'all pulled me off, bro. >> All right. Because we can see in the car, right? >> Yeah. Cuz you I mean, I Right. You seen it here and >> How was I supposed to see you in the car? >> So how you walk up to me and just say you thought you knew me? >> You rolled down the window. I I mean I'm a human being. If I see somebody before, I could say I'd seen you before. >> So where you think you seen me from at? >> I stopped you before. 13th of Kenmore. >> Huh? >> 13th of Kenmore. >> Oh, you was there. >> Why you nervous, man? >> My face nervous, [ __ ] >> You're shaking. >> Boy, shaking from what? >> Yeah. >> Well, I'm about to beat that case. So, I need Well, I'm going to have you step out. All right, my man. >> No, you're not. >> Step on out. >> How you want me to step out? >> Because I'm asking you to step out >> for what? >> Because I asked you to step out. So, step out of the car. >> But how you going to have me step out? Because I asked you to step out of the car. >> For what? >> He's going to get him out next. >> Step out of the car. Listen, man. You can work with us. >> I'mma come out, but it's like for what? You got You got to give me a reason, don't you? >> No, I can ask you to step out of car. >> How I better [ __ ] my lawyer right now. I bet he don't say that. >> Well, after you step out of the car, I'll give you your phone. You call your lawyer, >> but step out of car for me. >> All right. >> So, you going to grab my door handle? >> Step out of car. No, >> listen. You cannot do it or I can say you're you're I'm going to arrest you for something. >> Don't do that, bro. Don't worry being like that. >> Listen to me. Step out of the car. >> Step out of the car. >> All right, man. Listen. >> I'm about to listen. Put your listen. All right. Put your hands on top of your head. >> Put your hands on top. No. Put your hands on top of your head. >> You can pull me out. >> Put your hands on top of your head and interlock your fingers. All right. You going to throw me down, bro? >> No. I'm just going to have you I'm going to help you step out. Step on out. Then I'll grab your phone afterwards. Just going to stay right there. >> I ain't tripping. I ain't up on my phone, bro. >> All right. >> Damn. You grabbing me aggressive as [ __ ] bro. >> Put your hands together. >> Together. All right. >> My hand moving nothing, bro. >> One of the reason why you doing this? >> Well, I told you, man. If you didn't want to listen to me, then you're obstructing. So, >> I'm obstructing. >> Yeah, I got I was the car. >> All right. Well, let's go back on here. Are you serious, bro? You didn't ask. >> That's what you own, bro. >> How many times I have to ask you, bro? I was asking I was asking, can I get a Listen, can I talk, bro? I was asking, can I get a reasonable reason to get out the car, bro? You didn't give me no reason. Then you said it. I'm like, oh, I'm about to get out, but can I get a reason? I'm not No, how y'all just going to be alarmed? Get me no reason. >> So, listen. You didn't never gave me no reason to get out the car, bro. Just an odor of marijuana coming from all s. I would have got the >> I don't have to give you the reason. I could tell you to step out of the car and you spread your feet. I explained it to you multiple times. >> You remember 30 seconds ago, do you? >> Huh? >> Ask question. >> You ask a question before you do what we ask you before we get you in trouble. >> I didn't know that. >> Now you do. >> So I'm in trouble now. >> Yeah, obviously cuz you would be out here having a conversation and not racist if you just got out when we asked. >> I was getting out your feet in there. >> Swing your feet in there. >> I'll get your windows down. Relax. Well, this is a He doing this for us. >> All right, bro. Listen. It's your last chance, man. Is there going to be anything illegal in here? >> I ain't worried about marijuana or anything, but >> All right. Yes, bro. >> This is window t marijuana, man. Cop search vehicle. >> That's why I'm asking. >> Oh my god. I got to worry about it. As long as you're honest and straight with me, I can work with you. >> All right. [ __ ] that. Just step out for me. >> It's not that big of a deal, man. >> Listen, just put keep your hands here. You got your weapons, don't you? >> All right, man. I'm just going to have you That's >> I'm just going to have you sit in the back of the car, man. As long as you stay cool and cooperative, we'll get you. All right, man. >> Sir, can you can you go the windows down? >> Yeah. Hello. >> The police messing with her. They got a mirror in her car and Dante. The police is messing with her. >> Oh, for some for no reason. Cuz they taking out the car for no reason and they [ __ ] with us. I forgot. They messing with they messing with us. Ready? Okay. Man, pulling my car off. Amir been smoking a mile. >> Weed. Amir been smoking a mile. >> Go ahead and step out. >> Me? >> Yes, >> man. I don't got I got I'm in drama. I don't want to get out the car. >> It don't matter. You're getting out of the car. >> Get arrested if you don't just want to shut the [ __ ] up. Talk to me for real. talking about. >> Exactly. I don't HAVE NO DRAW THOUGH. I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT THE CAR. >> You're under arrest, >> man. Stop touching [ __ ] with people for real >> on that weird ass. >> I know they not allowed to search this [ __ ] car. They searching the car for no reason. Y'all weird as [ __ ] >> man. Queen. What? >> You ain't don't leave. Stay right here. >> Get in my car. Where the [ __ ] did you take my phone? TOOK MY [ __ ] [ __ ] PHONE OUT MY HEAD. GIVE ME MY [ __ ] reason. >> I want to let me finish. Let me finish. >> Let me finish. >> You see that bag on top of the car? >> Yes. >> What is that? >> Doesn't matter what it is. That's a reason for us to go in the car. >> That's a reason for us to go in the car while you step out. Point. All right. It is coming. >> Make sure those doors are locked. Right. Roll those windows. >> I'm going have you step out. Don't reach for nothing. Just step on out. All right. >> Don't reach for nothing. >> Oh, I'm fine. >> All right. >> What's up? >> I have my CCWs. >> You have a gun? >> I got my CCW. >> Where's the gun? >> In the car. Where at? >> Well, here. >> Now you're under arrest. >> Now you're under arrest. Put your Drop your water. Drop your water. Just drop it. >> Put your hands together and drop your phone. >> Tell us where's the gun at. Where's the gun at? You got a gun in the car. >> Put your hands together. >> The stop was constitutionally valid. Under when versus US 1996. Any observable traffic violation authorizes a stop even if the officer's real interest is investigative. Window tint qualifies under Ohio Revised Code section 45132. Requesting the front passenger's identification was also lawful. A seat belt violation is an independent infraction under Ohio Revised Code section 4513263, giving officers separate authority to demand that occupant's identification. Rear passengers had stronger footing. Ohio has no blanket passenger identification law. Absent independent reasonable suspicion specific to that individual officers cannot compel a passenger to identify themselves as confirmed in Hyel versus 6th Judicial District Court 2004. One occupant alleged officers had deliberately waited for their car to move under when that claim carries no fourth amendment weight. A stop is constitutional so long as a real traffic violation exists. Oh, thank you. >> You guys got guns on you, too, >> man? What? >> That's another reason. >> Oh, I didn't. >> Well, there's an open bottle right between her legs. >> I'm legal, though. >> He got CCW. >> He's going to get arrested for a CCW. >> Oh, for what? >> What? >> Because you didn't tell us >> initially. You need When you first walked up, you was you was you was talking to them. >> You said that. You said nothing. >> You've been to class, right? You've been to class. >> Why you on there with me? I wasn't being smart with you and stuff. Well, they they know more than the police. >> No, I this me and we were two with >> them separate people like I've been chilling the whole time. >> Listen, I know you been tell when I you didn't listen. Stop. We ain't stupid. When I asked you your name, you didn't say nothing. >> That was a time for you to say, "Hey, I got a gun on me." Right. >> One second. >> Right. I >> Right. >> It was, but I tried to tell you when I first You didn't try to tell me >> at all. At all. We ain't playing stupid games. You still going up there? >> Like, dang. Come on, man. I've been being cool the whole time. I'm trying to tell them that you didn't say a word. But what I'm saying is, you know, you got a gun in the car. Like, you said, "Hey, dude. I got a gun in the car. I got my CC dubs." >> Then, it's done. >> Yeah. I tried to say here, man. Flick it off you. Oh, yeah. I did that. Jump up in there. I don't even know who that is. >> More people. >> Oh, why would I try to tell my grandma I s on the phone? Hold >> on a second. A lot of times when we pull over a lot of people like that, they they tell people where they're at and then a bunch of people come and get involved that don't need involved. That's why we take the phone. >> I need to go. >> We'll get you out of here in a second. >> Well, ain't even no curb I can sit on cuz I'm getting [ __ ] draw. >> Can I get some lip gloss in the car or >> Can he do it? No. Why you >> I'm talking to him. That's what I said. Stop [ __ ] talking to me. Why ain't nobody talking to me? >> It's green. It should be on the scene. >> Yeah, it's green. You know what? YOU SHUT THE [ __ ] UP CUZ I ain't talking to you. I'm talking to him. You were talking to him. Nobody was ever talking to you. You definitely can shut the [ __ ] up and back up off my sister. >> Well, she can be under arrest. >> I don't give a [ __ ] You're not going to do that though. Cuz you going to arrest her for no reason. You want to arrest her for a reason. I'm not >> cuz he been a [ __ ] She is annoying as [ __ ] No, he not. We were talking to you. Once you're once I'm talking to you, then you can answer me. Nobody [ __ ] talking to me. He's entertaining as [ __ ] >> The longer this goes on, the longer it takes us to take care OF BUSINESS. >> WELL, I'M READY to get the [ __ ] up through. Let's go. >> I want you to, too. But you got to relax. >> Okay. I just want my lip gloss. I lift. >> I'll get your lip gloss. >> Yeah. Thank you. See, I [ __ ] with you. You cool. We cool people. >> I [ __ ] with the rest of you. Y'all got me [ __ ] up. >> How old are you? >> I'm 20. >> 20? Yes. Who >> are these? Are you [ __ ] with these boys? >> No, them is my cousins. >> They got CCW. >> Yes. Okay. >> Yes, they do. >> Does he got criminal history? >> No, they shouldn't. They got license short, all that. Like all that. >> You know what's weird about this whole situation? >> What is it? >> Is I support people carrying guns, >> right? We should for protection. But you have to be legal with this [ __ ] That's >> And that's fine. >> Yeah. >> But but you know what makes it appear not legal? What >> is when people get confrontational like this? >> I'm only getting confrontational with them because they being mean. you. You weren't even there when we rolled up. >> You guys in the front, your cousins. >> Oh, yeah. >> People that are doing [ __ ] the right way. >> No. And only reason. Was you in the car with him? You was in the car with him. See, before you even came, not even him. I don't even know him. But that one right there, he was [ __ ] with us. We pulled in six corners. We seen him. We pulled in. We It wasn't like we was, "Oh my god, please don't go there." We pulled in there cuz you feel me? We was getting shelves and [ __ ] >> He He looked at my cousin in the front seat, the lights didn't one, and said, "Oh yeah, I pulled Glory before. I know you somewhere." No, he didn't say that. He He said >> He said something to him in the car though. >> No. No. Yeah. When we No, he didn't say nothing. They He had opened his door and then the police rolled up to us. They rolled right up to us. They looked No. >> at the corner down there. They They rolled up on us. They looked in the car. They probably And then the thing is we you know that corner that's literally right there. >> They set one that car right there. They set that car on that street until we pulled out and we we literally said, "Watch. They about to dup us." They they about to watch. He pulled up. He He pulled up talking about Oh, yeah. That's cuz I remember him. I pulled him over somewhere. What the [ __ ] do that got to do with anything? >> Hey, what's your social? >> Can you uh I'm listening to you just like a nut. >> Hold on, man. What's your social? >> Yeah, man. Y'all walked up and they all I'm I'm done this [ __ ] because you know better. >> No, I'm saying it was all on some [ __ ] when y'all walked up. I'm trying to tell them to >> They never Not once. The three of them did something to >> whatever it's called. I don't know what it's called. >> Yeah, I don't know. Whatever it is, they never They said something to every one of us but him. They didn't say one word to that man. Explain that to me. >> Like literally when they pulled up, they went to the driver in the passenger door. Then they immediately got to holler, "Roll the [ __ ] window down in the back." We roll the back windows down. It's girls back here. >> We're kind of past that part. That's not really >> They still never said nothing to him. They never said not one word to him. Not roll your window down. He was on my side talking to me. He was on my side on that side talking to me. He They never went to his window. Never said what's your name? How old are you? Do you got a license? Nothing. They were talking to me. I'm like, "What do I need my license for? What do I need the ID for? I'm in the back seat. I'm on the phone. >> Oh, you're not talking to me. >> Like what? >> The dude in the back, he does have a concealed license, but the dude in the front does not. >> Nobody ever Nobody He never said he had that. And And nobody ever said that. >> Wait, what? >> The officer saw him put it in the trunk. >> No, they did not. How do they sing to any of the [ __ ] people in the car because of the dick? WE GOT PULLED UP. NO, you're [ __ ] lie. I'm getting out of the [ __ ] APARTMENT WITH YOUR UGLY RED, [ __ ] THAT'S WHY YOUR dusty ass. >> I don't give a [ __ ] WE'RE TALKING YOU [ __ ] TOUCHING ME, BRO. >> STOP. >> QUIT TOUCHING ME. GET THE [ __ ] OFF OF ME, BRO. >> OKAY. RELAX. >> OKAY. STOP. >> Quit pulling on me, bro. Quit pulling on me, bro. >> No, I'm not. >> Back. >> I ain't dissing. >> Get back. >> I really don't want to talk cuz y'all [ __ ] with us, bro. Get back. >> We [ __ ] do this then. >> He's driving [ __ ] man. Quit yanking on me, bro. Yanked on him. >> You yanked on me. >> Who yanked on him with these [ __ ] handcuffs on me, bro? Quit yanking on me, bro. Tight as [ __ ] Stop talking, though. Just stop talking. Stop talking. Just stop talking. Just stop [ __ ] talking. They want to slam you and beat your ass so bad. Stop talking. Not you. Not you. I told you I [ __ ] with you. I don't know. YOU COOL, TOO. YOU [screaming] NO. AND you No. What the [ __ ] >> Why? We don't want you to have >> That's my And he just real >> I'm not sitting down. I don't want to sit down. I'm not sitting no [ __ ] itchy ass grass. >> I'm not sitting in no itchy ass grass. >> One, two. >> Three. Sit down. >> You ready? >> Grandma. >> Yeah. He trying to hang on my phone. >> He He hanging on my phone. >> Why you think you're a smart ass? I know how to put my hands in front of your words to you. >> He being a smart He had to hang up on my grandma. She ain't here. >> My grandma old as [ __ ] She ain't here. She in Georgia with a smart ass. >> She need to hear you being like that. >> Yes, she did. >> [ __ ] Okay. >> Well, I didn't want her just [ __ ] walking out there. I didn't know you got it. >> All right. So you guys understand the right side. I just read you guys. All right. >> Jump on out, man. >> You got to cut this. My bad. My bad. Sorry, bro. >> Uh, all right. We're going to walk over here. >> Just lean up on this car. I'm not taking you out of cuffs yet. I'm asking you a couple questions. All right. All right. We're fine. So listen, man. You know, did you know there was no firearm in the trunk? >> So was in the trunk. All right. >> For me? >> Yeah. >> That was to put the shirt in the my my jacket that I had on first in the trunk. Then I put this in. >> All right. Did >> you see the gun was there? It was right right on top of your jacket. >> On my jacket? >> Yeah. >> Put in there. >> It couldn't be. It's five jackets in there. First of all, >> your black jacket. >> Which one? Cuz it's like five jack black jackets in there. the one that you So listen, you see the gun. Is it your gun? Because listen, it's I mean, we're trying to figure out like he has a CC. It's not a car gun. There's another gun obviously in the car. >> So now we have to find out whose gun it is. >> All right. So I'm asking you cuz we know you went to the trunk. >> Yeah. I never even you put stuff in there. >> Yeah, it was in the trunk. >> And then what's he saying? He's saying he didn't know. Was it on top of his jacket that he put in there? >> It was just laying right on top. >> So then I mean we >> If you didn't put the gun in there and you didn't put the gun in he he's trying to get charged with it. >> I mean if that's your boy that's your boy. If it's your gun let him take a charge for it. Go ahead. >> I ain't know there was a gun in there. >> It's my thing. >> All right. >> How how >> Yeah. Well, he's getting charged with that. He's getting charged with that. If the PLA did the PLA said it was Yeah. >> Oh, hold on. I'm about to go. >> He's going to get charged. >> So, how the [ __ ] did you get home? >> What do you mean? >> I'm not getting to Did you go to jail when you got hit with church? >> No, I don't know. That's >> We going to work with you. >> Oh, I mean there's there's some people. >> Is she good? >> Yeah, she's good. >> Did Yeah. Let her walk. >> Do we have her? We got your information, ma'am. All right. >> Yeah, man. When you be send me, don't be bringing that case up cuz that case still open. I don't even like to talk. >> Well, don't act like you don't know me. >> No, I don't. >> And then you then you act like, "Oh, you can't because then you start to play some bullshit." >> Why? >> Well, oh, what you saying? We all look alike. >> No, cuz I'm really Cuz I'm Cuz you on the heist. We got caught. I didn't know y'all control everywhere. I'm like, "What the fuck?" >> Hey, I'm everywhere, man. But I'm everywhere. But listen, when you >> I'm a human being. Like, if I saw this dude and then a year later I could see him, I say, "Hey, dude. I I saw you somewhere." I mean, You you have people I mean you see somebody you're not stupid I was just playing I ain't playing I wouldn't play race car [ __ ] I got white grandmas but >> I was just [ __ ] around with you >> that's why I said me you started off through that song I'm like damn I try to explain but listen >> that's why I wasn't doing I told you I wouldn't do I told you last time like dude you get out of cuz I know you got you got >> new kid you got a newborn right one on the way >> yeah newborn >> wait oh wait pulled me over in front of the library and let me go. Oh >> no. No. Damn. I got a deputy though. Damn. I thought >> And then you acting like this now. >> Yeah. I'm sorry, bro. I did not know this was you. I thought this somebody else. Y'all was some cool ass cops though. Yeah. I apologize. Y I >> dude even gave you the the stuff to do. Well, no. He gave you he gave you the the talk to get you out of trying to get out of that case. >> Oh, yeah. He did. Y >> I got your ID, but I'm going to take you out. Hey, >> just chill. Just chill over here, >> bro. I ain't I'm standing here. They can't do [ __ ] to me. I said, >> what y'all want me to do? >> Just chill out. Just chill out. Relax. We'll get you moving. >> I'm about to go sit with her. >> Right. Just chill. Listen. Chill right there. Relax. Jump out, man. I'll make you up into our car. >> So, I'm getting arrested. >> Yeah. You're going to get a charge, man. Just relax. You You got just money up in here? >> Yeah. I'm going to the county. >> No. >> Oh, I'm getting a ticket. Huh? Yeah. You're going to get a ticket for knowing better. Cuz you did it. You must the whole class. You know better, right? >> Come on, man. I ain't give you no problems. >> You didn't CDL's. I'm not trying to mess my line. >> You got CDL's? >> Yeah. >> That's where that came from. >> You're good, man. I'll just go ahead and make sure you ain't got nothing crazy on in here. >> Whoops. Pull your drawers up. My bad. >> So, what's the what's the uh we'll talk to you up in here. >> Yeah, he's good. Jesse's for you. >> Do it like that. >> Please don't do it like that. >> She came up with that, >> bro. Cuz he been [ __ ] with my sister, bro. He been [ __ ] with my sister. >> I'm not saying two words to your sister. I don't LIKE THAT [ __ ] STOP PLAYING WITH ME. All right. Please don't do it like that. wasn't even here on that cop. That was our surgeon over here. >> Can you touch me? I don't want to walk up on a I don't want y'all to do her like that. They always got her back. They are women. And then on top of y'all know how our women is like and our black women strong. They not, you feel me? They going to always have our back no matter who. If boys in blue, whatever they especially her, bro, she always got her back. That's how she is. She's not going, you feel me? Especially that's the same way I was trying to talk to him trying to figure out why I'm getting out the car. You know, she trying to figure out why the hell is y'all putting me in cuss and trying to figure That's all that was. I mean, she probably was being open with it, but she wasn't really being disorderly. Like, I mean, I can't say she wasn't cuz she was acting out, but I mean, damn. >> That's I mean, you can only get we can only warn somebody so many times. We told her over there like 10 times to relax. Just relax. Trying to talk to her. No, [ __ ] you. I don't want to talk to y I got that. >> She's an adult, man. >> She grown like she got kids to go home to and everything. >> What does that have to do with anything? You acting like because you got kids when you're a black female, you can't get >> No, I'm act I'm acting like that. We, me and you, us three, we mature. >> I get it. >> So, we should understand when somebody acting out sometimes they might not just be on our level, you know? >> I get it. But like if she would have just got out of the car and started acting up and she would have calmed down, that's fine. But once my sergeant's here and he's telling her how she even acting out and I'm sitting here trying to talk to her. >> Mhm. >> That's not That's not her problem. That's why I'm saying that's something she has to only here to help. Why why >> going on and they're interfering with what we're doing? That's why she >> Okay. But she don't got to go to jail, do she? >> Did I say she was going to jail? >> No. No. I'm asking though. I'm saying I don't know if she's going to jail or not. I can't I can't tell you. >> Can I talk to you, sir? And out of everybody out here, I don't know why I know your face. You mustn't be out alive. You just be out here. I just know your face. But uh we all say Yeah. Please with my cousin, please. Please. >> I'm going to talk to the guys whenever. But she's been cool now. So >> yeah, cuz she she just really always just got her back. I know. I couldn't get her to calm down cuz she got her back. She just >> No, I get it. >> That's how she is. >> But I get it. She got to go out and if you guys bless her, I really have a long talk with her and everything. Like, man, when we get in situation like that, y'all [ __ ] got to chill. Like, I'll talk to her and everything, please. >> We [ __ ] got >> No, not y'all. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. I'm talking about her and her. They [ __ ] acting out. Just let me talk to you. Just give me that chance. And it'll be straight. Y'all never had them run into her. Like, they don't even be out here. They don't even come outside for us. Like, we got them out the house. They in this and she all they know is just being defensive about us. They don't, you know, and she she probably damn near don't even care to go to jail. I do. You feel me? So I just I just please, you know, just please >> give me give me a couple minutes and then I'll get with you. >> Okay. He I actually know him though. He said he walked up to me and said he know I don't know you. So I like where it was though. But I do know him. He actually is a cool offer. So they let they talked to me one time. They they got me right. So yeah. >> That's the thing. No one here is trying to escalate the situation. >> No, I know you guys like that. Y'all been cool. The dudes ain't saying nothing. >> Yeah. >> And you're saying but that's no excuse. >> Yeah. It's not. It's not. That's why I'm asking you know. >> I see. No. I I listen I understand where you're coming from. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I got I got family that do the same. Obviously you don't do it now. >> You don't got to worry about it. But I got family that's the same exact way. I get it. I get it 100%. >> Yeah. Everybody got >> Yeah, I did. I was watching. I was trying to talk. >> Just calm down. Dennis Dennis. [ __ ] y'all. We don't want to talk to y'all. Y'all weird. This. Okay, that's fine. But going to be acting like that. You want to get >> I saw I saw and I appreciate you guys for not even escalating cuz I know I seen it. I'm like, "Wow, baby. Please stop." So I appreciate you guys listen extra paperwork for us if we do something you know we do something we just trying to calm down. >> He said that's extra paper. I must hate that [ __ ] paperwork. >> I'll be hearing that paperwork so bad. >> I'm not the one that handcuffed her. I didn't say two words to her. >> [ __ ] You ain't putting no cuffs on me. You need to leave. >> Say one word. Man, >> you need to leave. Why is he still here? >> Cuz your sister's in the back of my car. We'll get her out and let her go in one of their cars or something. Then >> there's a dog in the other one. Don't want to go in there. >> That dog better not bite me or I'm suing y'all for a free ticket. >> Let them let them conduct your business and then ask question. >> But this is for me to learn. This is for me to learn my rights. Okay. So, for the next time I get stopped and they try to just yank me out the car. Why the car? No. I'm saying y I'm saying just get out the car, you know, just walk up. Get out the car. What if I let the next officer do now I just don't now I'm a person. I don't know my right. This actually I be knowing my rights and stuff like that. What? Yeah. >> You grow up in acting. >> Yeah. Let me tell you something about us as a police department. Regardless of what you hear or what you think you hear, the Akran Police Department is one of the best police departments in the country when it comes to uses of force and citizen complaints. Which means we abide by the law more times than any other police department or most of other police departments in the country. Okay? Nobody that wears this patch, I can almost guarantee you is going to violate your rights for no reason. >> Okay? Now, outside of the city, I can't speak on that, but inside of the city, we got a lot of good dudes that wear this uniform that are just trying to do a good job, and they're going to treat you more fairly than probably most people will that wear any other uniform. Okay? So, I'll start with that. >> But, but I would be mad at myself if my lawyer sit there and look at me like, "Okay, so boom, boom, boom." And you like, "Well, >> you got a case to worry about a lawyer." >> No. Yes, I do. He knows. But >> not now. >> Yeah. Not today. >> Oh, yeah. Not today. Yeah. But I'm saying though, you know, I You'll just be mad though. You know, and then this where my next time I get stopped. What if I just let y'all pull me out? Then y'all not and y'all not teach me that like how basically I'm learning that you was basically still allowed to pull me out because of the tension or whatever. Like okay. No, actually I do need to know what was the reason for me allowed to be getting out the car. They said they smell marijuana or something. >> Soon as we smell marijuana in the car, >> I don't know how y'all smell marijuana in there. >> Oh. Oh [ __ ] I ain't see it. I ain't know. >> And you see Officer Ray here. If we didn't smell it, his puppy's going to smell it. >> Oh wow. Okay. Have the dogs ready? >> Yeah. Well, we we don't get them ready, but they're just around. >> Yeah, they in there. Yeah. So, uh here's my what I'm going to say to you. >> I'm going to let her go. No, she can walk with you. >> As long as you promise me next time, you'll be a little more cooperative with that. >> I promise. And I'm about to talk to her. She's going to be more powerful, too. >> Now, I'm a sergeant. So, if you got a guy that wears this patch that feels like treated you like an [ __ ] you call me and I will handle that. >> And I asked Sergeant B. >> Yes. >> I was like, but if you got like these guys or some other dudes where you feel like, all right, they're not being an [ __ ] They're trying to do their job. Just just comply. >> I'm a both side person. I was that's what I was seeing. I was seeing y'all was doing your job and [ __ ] but I just be want to learn what learn. I be trying to learn off my expenses, but I ain't I don't take classes. So, I'm just trying to learn off my experience with the police. >> You taking >> He's cool. I hope I hope that I get to talk to him again in the future. You're flexible, by the way. >> You should be a dancer or something. You just had it all your >> That's why you do that. You know it. >> Are you all right? >> No, don't drink it. >> I don't [ __ ] with you. I do not tell it to be with >> I don't [ __ ] with them. Get you something. I do not [ __ ] with them. Especially your gay ass. >> When the driver was ordered out and asked for a reason, officers had no legal obligation to explain. Pennsylvania versus Mims, 1977 established that ordering a driver from a stopped vehicle requires no individualized justification. Maryland versus Wilson 1997 extended that authority to passengers. Once a lawful exit order is issued, sustained physical refusal is not protected conduct. Under Ohio Revised Code section 292131, it becomes obstructing official business. Officers cited the odor of marijuana as probable cause for the vehicle search. Ohio courts have held consistently in state versus more and since that marijuana odor alone is sufficient for a warrantless vehicle search, a large bag was also visible in plain view. Under Coolage versus New Hampshire, 1971 evidence immediately apparent during a lawful encounter may be seized without a warrant. Combined with the odor, officers had layered probable cause. Ohio Revised Code section 292312 subsection 9 requires any CHL holder stopped by law enforcement to promptly notify the officer of the firearm. Promptly means at first contact before any commands are issued. Failure to provide that immediate notification is a first-degree misdemeanor in Ohio, regardless of whether the license is valid. The duty is unconditional. No exception exists for not being given an opening. A second firearm was recovered from the trunk. Under Graham versus Connor, 1989, any force applied must be objectively reasonable from the perspective of an officer on the scene at that moment. One officer seized an occupant's phone to prevent a crowd from gathering. Riley versus California 2014 held cell phones require a warrant to search. Seizing a phone to block calls raises unresolved first and fourth amendment concerns. Obstruction under Ohio Revised Code section 292131 requires purposeful conduct designed to impede an officer performing lawful duties. Verbal objection alone does not meet that standard. Sustained physical refusal of a lawful exit order does. No court records for this incident were located at time of analysis. Probable charges include obstructing official business failure to notify under the CHL statute and marijuana possession. The Akran officers receive a B minus. The stop was lawful and positioning was sound. They lose ground for the phone seizure and for failing to communicate probable cause early which extended an avoidable standoff. The driver receives a C plus. He understood passenger identification rights. However, failing to immediately disclose a concealed firearm under Ohio Revised Code section 292312 created criminal exposure entirely of his own making. The female passenger receives a C. Her initial refusal to provide identification was legally defensible. Once probable cause was established, continued physical resistance crossed into conduct that justified detention. Her release came through discretion, not legal. Right. The Akran Police Department receives a B. The sergeant's deescalation and discretionary release of the female occupant reflected sound judgment. Training gaps around cell phone, seizure law, and early communication of probable cause account for the lower mark. This encounter produced five lessons that apply to anyone driving or riding in Ohio or in states with comparable statutes. Lesson one, if you carry a firearm under a CHL, your first words in any stop must include that disclosure. Ohio law provides no grace. Period. Lesson two, Ohio passengers are not required to identify themselves without individualized suspicion. That protection only works if you know it before the stop, not during it. Lesson three, verbal objection is protected speech. Physically refusing a lawful exit order is not. That line is the difference between protected conduct and an arrest charge. Lesson four. In Ohio, marijuana odor gives officers warrant-free authority to search the entire vehicle. If that risk exists in the car, probable cause is established the moment it is detected. Lesson five, supervisory discretion is not a legal right. Relying on goodwill instead of compliance produces an unpredictable outcome every time. If there's a legal interaction or topic you want analyzed, drop it in the comments. Give this a thumbs up if it helped and subscribe to our channel for the next