We got two victims. Two victims. >> Barb is dead. She passed on. >> I saw she went down. The guy over the top is doing this. >> Okay. This case begins with the family arriving at a scene they [music] already feared. While officers are still trying to understand who was attacked and who left the house. The opening footage reveals that relatives had raised concerns before, but the full reason for those warnings is not yet clear. To understand how the situation reached this point, the footage returns to the first emergency call and the officer sent to the address. Officers have two victims. Another squad, please victimware. 365. >> A few would be good. >> Robert, I have two victims. Start me another squad, please. >> I'm getting I'm getting some uh tiles or something to apply pressure. 16 AC 15 Kenneth Mortime >> going to be their son. Mortimer, I'm sorry. Last name Mortimer. >> Thanks, sir. >> Okay, that's clear. I'm Kenneth Mortimer. Do we know what he is operating? >> Do what? >> Do you know what kind of car it was? It >> was a uh I told you. Okay. Honda four-door. >> Okay. And I got a female victim here inside the house as well. 82 is on his way. Affirmative. A2 is on his way. So that is a third victim, sir. Second victim, elderly female. Okay. Still two victims. That's clear. I let the medics know that another medic now. Okay. Non breather. >> I think he got me a couple of times. 32 possible plates in the vehicle is going to be Ohio John Harry Williams 5415. >> Okay, that's clear. I'll go ahead and put this out. >> We got two victims. Two victims. >> I don't think there's much we can do on that one. >> Really? >> All kind of unit stabbing from 3375 Palm Hill Lane. It's going to be a Kenneth Mortimer operating an older Honda unknown color bearing John Mary William 5145 repeating look out for a subject for possible stabbing that's Kenneth Mortimer he's operating an older model Honda unknown color bearing John Mary William 5145 is diagnosed has some psych history 1906 >> a couple on the The worst one's inside. >> I'm going to get your guys' cot ready. >> You ready, >> Lucas? >> We're going to put this back here. Where? >> I don't know. >> The units are on Palm Hill. I'm going to switch you guys to area wide one. Area wide one. Got that. We got two victims. Not looking good. Copy that. >> Is there anything else I can grab? What? >> You saw what? Go. What garage? Their garage. >> The other guy said that he saw the car leave. So, we should probably check the house regardless of >> anybody in county. You want to help me clear the house? >> Go for it. >> Yeah, we need to do that. >> Charles 11 sending call. Charles 11. >> Well, I think we should. >> Hey, Charles. >> You just want to cover this, Brett? >> Just wait. Wait for us. Go. You see alone? >> Okay. >> Okay. Did you see anybody else who left? Ken, >> did you see him with anything? >> Okay. All right. We'll be in to talk to you in a little bit. Okay. >> Do you want me to get your car for name and phone number and stuff? There's more blood right here. >> You want to go get her? >> Let's get tape first. Let's get tape. Do you have tape? >> Grab me tape. >> I'll get that taken care of first. 415. It's going to be a gray Honda. >> Subject that's operating that vehicle is a Kenneth Mortimer. His date of birth of 329 1984 does have some psych history. They found stop and hold for authority of Green Township County at 1613. >> Are you bringing another ambulance? Do we need to make room for another ambulance or they can pull up as close as they can? >> Okay. Green Township Police. >> Hey guys, there's another ambulance coming. So, make sure we're we're in a car so we can move them. >> Can they get through here? >> Are you that one? >> No. >> I'm not. I'll see if I can Thank you. >> Is this yours? I'm just going to put it in here to the ambulance for the ambulance. >> Did you witness anything, ma'am? >> Okay. Sorry. I was trying to transition. So, what all did you see? I came home, got out of my truck, and uh I heard a lady frantically yelling, "Help, help, help." >> Okay. >> I looked I looked around, looked down. I saw she had just come out the door. Guy followed her out. >> Okay. >> Do you know who that was? >> I I have no idea who they are. No. All I saw >> Okay. >> And uh I saw she went down and the guy over the top of her doing this. >> Okay. >> And then he went inside. >> Okay. >> And I'm just for a second like, you know, did I just see what I thought I saw? >> Yeah. I waited a minute. She didn't get up. I called 911. >> Uhhuh. >> Um, he came back out, yelled something. I couldn't hear what it was. Grabbed her feet, just drug her ass inside. >> Okay. >> Her head was bouncing off the step. The screen door was smacking her in the head. >> Okay. >> Um, I was on the I was on with the dispatcher. Told them all that. >> Uhhuh. >> Um, then he came back out. >> Uhhuh. had a bag and something else in his hand. Got into his car. I called 911 back. >> Yeah. >> Gave him a what plate I could get off of it. Gave him a description. >> Okay. >> Um that's when I noticed the old guy walking around. He was walking around the yard. Okay. >> It looked like he was covering blood. >> Yeah. >> That's what I told them. And he went up and sat on the porch and I told him he's sitting on the porch now. >> Then I wasn't sure if it was him that got stabbed and he went out the back door or I assume it was two >> I I can't say. Okay. Yeah. Um, can I get your ID, sir? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, they'll they'll want to interview you. >> Yeah, >> I'm sure. >> Yeah. Sorry. I'm sure you'll figure it out soon enough. Unfortunately, speaking with this neighbor here, it sounded like when I told her what the guy looked like, she said it sound like it was her son. >> Okay. Especially with the gray the gray silver door. >> So is that here often? >> I don't know. That's I mean I really I know Nancy people of me. That's it. >> Okay. I don't know anybody else down the street. Okay. >> Mr. Brower, can I get you your phone number? >> Okay. Okay. Um there'll more than likely be a detective come over to speak to you. Are you going to be home the rest of for the next >> I'm supposed to go to VA country festival tonight? >> What time? >> We were going to leave around 4:30, 5:00. >> Okay. Um >> it's cuz it's a 4-day event. >> When the detective gets here, we'll have multiple. I'll let them know and they might ask you to come in tomorrow if you're not might not able not able to stay. >> Okay. >> But just just hang on if you could. >> Okay. I'll wait as long as I can. >> Once I find out, I'll come talk to you and before you leave, come talk to me. If I don't get to you first. >> Sure. >> Uh breadwell. Yes, sir. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Do you want me to extend? I was going to extend the the uh sidewalk. >> We can extend it down. Um Hey, >> I'm going to uh >> I was going to do down here too for quite a bit ways down. >> Yeah, let's do that. >> So, we don't have media coming up here, too. >> Yeah, let's get them down that way. Yep. Oh [ __ ] >> How about the hole? >> I know. [laughter] Let's go. Let's go. Well, we're going to go down this telephone pole, guys, unless you live here. >> Yeah. What happened? >> I live right here. >> I can't tell you guys. You know that. >> Well, all I said we're going to go down this telephone pole. I'm going to caution it off down there. >> Yeah, I live right there. >> Okay, we'll just go inside or go on your porches. Just please stay away. Appreciate it. >> I'll make sure here. >> All right, I'll get >> me. I'll get you here in a second. >> Hey, are we >> are we keeping everyone from this first? Joe somewhere. >> Probably 3 hours or so. >> They can get around that way, can't they? >> Nope. >> It's a dead end. It's a dead end street. >> I mean, >> could they have you on route to Dicks for the theft with the suspicious vehicle on East Miami River Road stacked? like it's all clear and all >> you can pick up. >> Avenue and Richie and out of the building can happen anywhere. >> Yeah, this is a little streak. That's where that tree is up there. Up there. That's where we had all kinds of problems. >> All right, guys. Good luck. >> All righty. I'll let you out. >> I'm coming. >> It's not tied. So, >> right. >> Oh, my knee. I got um patellit tendonitis or whatever. My patellaton is just inflamed. >> It comes and goes >> as far as we know is still on Dun Raven. >> No, I'm clear. I'll be help. Yes, sir. Any other pad? I don't know. Just shrew three. By the way, guys, Heat. Heat. 1347 31. That's my bad. Hey, bring that tablet. You got clean gloves. And then I'll come back out. Go. What's up? >> Palm Hill. >> One was deceased. >> Yeah. >> And his wife didn't vitals were great for us over 70 heart rate 90 and 98% only 15 L100 ceiling. We got two points of access on the floor. Okay. >> Yeah, you're good. >> I've been through this already. Can you tell me your name? >> What's your name? >> Hold on one second. >> Can you wiggle your toes for me? I'm so sure. Do >> you have the custody? >> What do I need to know to make sure he's safe? >> No, we don't have He left the scene in the car. >> [ __ ] >> His wife is dead. >> Does he know? >> You going to tell him? >> I'm going to wait for the detective to get >> and You think it was that? >> We know it was. >> There's witnesses. >> Just crazy. The whole thing. >> Great. >> Yep. >> Another Friday. Where was Where's it from? >> Northern Green Township, Palm Hill, Tallahass. I wasn't expecting shores on the left side of his left ear. >> I'm just going to lift your arm out to the side here. All right, left a clear. You got about a three cime a little neck here. And then the third one here. >> They said they saw one on the neck on the side of his neck. I didn't see him. All I saw was a little cut here. >> Wouldn't actually clear. belly is mildly distended but soft and apparently non tender >> the only belly uh pain of when we were uh pressing on he said other than that it was fine so >> going down >> I do not have any obvious injuries to the bilateral lower extremities let's work on exposing groin >> okay >> you guys give me a Yeah. No, you're good. >> Can you give me 15 >> now? Let's just say you guys. So, more than you see. >> So, we know that Todd is out there. We know that he was st um we have kind of an idea of who he concerned about Barb. She's not answering her phone. This is not me. >> If you guys Yeah. >> Uh based on what I'm seeing here, I have an idea. >> Okay. >> Barb is dead. She passed away. It's my brother. >> He's We have him. We have him. >> You want me to bring your truck up? Yeah. Heat. Heat. Heat. I'm so [ __ ] pissed right now. >> You know how many times we have called the police and they JUST DON'T BELIEVE US? THEY JUST DON'T [ __ ] believe us. They don't believe us. Please listen. Please listen. When people tell you that they are in danger, do not >> just head down the UC. Okay. Did did you talk to her man yet? Did he answer? >> He's sedated. >> So, you were down there already? >> No, I know something's wrong here. >> Okay. >> I know something was wrong. >> By the time Kenneth reaches the station, officers have a named suspect, witness accounts, a matching vehicle, and statements he is already making about his parents and previous hospital treatment. His behavior shifts between cooperation, anger, and confusion. So, detectives now need to separate what he claims from what the evidence shows. Do you think the officers handled this stage appropriately? Share your view in the comments as the formal interview begins. >> She wasn't real. >> She wasn't real. I don't know what to tell you. I had to deal with a psychologist giving me a a psychological exam last week on August 1st. And I had to tell her, well, she asked me if I uh hear or see anything. And I told her that I I was in bed and I heard a knock on the door at like 8:30 in the morning. And I'm like, what the hell was that? I thought I was going to be arrested. So, I I immediately get out of bed and I look out the window, the front door, and there's nobody there. And there's nobody around. Like, nobody could have ran away that fast. They would have had to like run immediately as fast as they can run around to the left side of my house so I couldn't see him. >> What do you think you were going to do? >> It doesn't matter because you're arresting me for no reason. And so, and that doesn't matter cuz the knock on the door I I there's nobody there. I'm like, "What the fuck?" So, I go downstairs. My mom's sitting there and she says I say, "What's going on with this knock that at the door?" And she was like, "I didn't hear a knock." So, that's it. All right. So, and then she I hear her walking upstairs in the bathroom and I'm like, "Okay, she's upstairs doing something in the bathroom and she was being loud and I turn the corner and I hear the stuff upstairs and I turn the corner and she's right there in the bathroom downstairs and I was like I was Like there's I was like there's just two of her. I don't know. Why does any of this matter? Why do you want to talk to me, man? >> Cuz we're just trying to figure out >> why >> why things happened the way they did. >> I just told you I have spent too many times in a hospital and that was it. I could not go back to the hospital that night. I had to drink vodka at all costs. And if that meant stabbing her to death, that's what happened. So what? That's it. That's what you're asking me. I'm telling you that's it. >> Did you know it was wrong to stay your mother to death? >> I don't want to talk about that. I don't care. I don't want to talk about that. Do you love your mom? >> I just told you. I have a feeling you guys are just going to start getting so weird on me. I I just could not stand her. I really had a connection with her until she started to act like she was going to kill herself. And that was it. She acted like she was going to kill herself uh last April or May and then that was it. >> And that didn't happen when you were younger. >> Her acting like she was going to kill herself. >> Like is your mom dealt with mental health issues while you were growing up? >> She was so crazy. I don't know what she was doing when I was growing up. I just remember that she washed my mouth out with soap a couple times and my dad threatened to beat me with a belt a couple times for like no reason, but it didn't happen. I don't know why they were threatening me. I don't know. >> But otherwise, a normal childhood. >> Uh, I mean, no, it wasn't really all that normal. I don't know why you want to talk about my best friend blew his brains out in sixth grade. So, >> where'd you go? What what school did you guys go to? >> He switched schools. He went somewhere else in the sixth grade. I don't remember the name of it. >> Where did you go to school? Where you met? >> I I don't want to talk about it. >> Where'd you go to high school? >> Doesn't matter. >> How about your dad? Sorry. >> Did you get along with your dad growing up? >> No, he was an idiot. He was a terror. >> How so? >> He's a [ __ ] [ __ ] Uh, the only thing I had to do was deal with him taking me to soccer stuff and wrestling stuff. That's the only thing he did. Let's see. I don't know why you want to know. I don't know why it matters. These are pieces to the puzzle that we're trying to put together. >> I mean, it just doesn't matter. >> So, that you you like vodka. I'm a fan. Any other drugs or any other marijuana? I smoked some weed yesterday. >> Well, it's legal now. >> Yeah. >> Cocaine, crack, anything like that. Hard stuff. >> Just weed. >> Okay. Are you on any prescribed medications for uh for anything? >> No. >> No. Are you supposed to be >> What supposed to be? What? What was I supposed to >> Have you been prescribed medications that you don't take? >> I don't know what you're talking about. >> Okay. We're just asking. We're trying We're trying to get a full picture because, you know, we know what happened. We're trying to figure out how we got there. >> Okay. Well, >> and you're you're giving us some quick answers and you're, you know, you're being cooperative, but it's for us there's we think there could be more to it and we're just trying to figure out what that more part is. >> Oh my god. >> It's our job to ask questions. Okay. >> He did it. They just did it to himself. They weren't real. He was coming up the steps one day and I was looking at his face and he had all these deep lines on his face and just the way his whole face looked. Like I was just seeing these deep lines and then he comes in the house. He literally comes in the house, grabs something out of like the refrigerator or something, sits on the chair, sits on the couch, and I look at him, and he looks his face is completely different. It's like looking at two different people. And I was like, I told him, I said, I said, "You look totally different than you just did on the porch." I was like, "You have these deep lines on your face." And he just started cracking up laughing. He was like just started cracking up laughing. Just left for a while. >> Oh no. I don't want What do you want me to tell you? >> We We just want to >> You just You're going to say it again. I told you why. I have been hospitalized like five times >> and that was it. That was the last straw. I was not going back to the hospital and she told me that I could not stay there the the night. She told me to go find a park bench and that was it. >> Okay. >> So, when she said that, did you we obviously you got mad. Did you start screaming and yelling? >> No, I just told her to shut up. She said, "You're not staying here tonight." And I said, "Shut up. Just shut up." >> And did you say it that way or did you >> Yeah, I just I just said I I just said it like that. I just said I was like she was like you're not staying here tonight. And I was like just shut up. And she was like I'm serious. You're not staying here tonight. I said I said I said it again. I said just shut up. And she said you need to go find a park bench tonight. You're not staying here. I told her to shut up again. And then I think that's when my dad suggested to call the police and my mom said they're not going to do anything. Just call the crisis unit. And that was it. I just grabbed a knife and that's it. >> Do you remember after you grabbed the knife, did you do you re recall exactly what happened? >> Yeah, I stabbed him right I either stabbed him in the head or I stabbed him in his abdomen and that was it. I don't want to talk about anymore. >> And then mom got up off the couch, went outside. Did you stab her on the front porch? >> I don't want to talk about anymore. I don't want to talk about it. We're already talking about it. Okay. >> All right, Ken. We're just trying to put it all together so we can understand. >> All right. It's hard. It's hard looking from the outside in. I understand. You know, you've been dealing with with this for a long time. >> So, it it's built up for you. Um, we're we've been dealing with, you know, this for a few hours, meaning, you know, we don't know you from anybody else. You're the only one here that we can get these answers from right now. That's why we're trying to do this. Okay. Do you understand me? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, but is is there anything else that you think you can say to us to help us understand? >> No, that's it. I don't want to talk about anymore. >> Okay. The interview and booking footage show Kenneth admitting the attack, describing the crisis unit call as the immediate trigger and later questioning whether an officer was real. The recording documents his statements, but it cannot by itself answer every question about his condition or intent. Thomas survived his injuries. Kenneth later pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter, attempted murder, kidnapping, and felonious assault, and was sentenced to at least 45 years in prison. Subscribe for more carefully explained body cam cases.