How many times does an officer have to shout, "Drop the gun. >> Put the gun down. Put theing gun down." >> before a suspect complies. In the world of law enforcement, there is no magic number, only a ticking clock where hesitation turns into lethal risk. Today on Body Cam Pulse, we break down a terrifying Sunday afternoon standoff. A man armed with a loaded firearm refuses every single command. actively draws his weapon and tests the absolute limits of police restraint. This is a masterclass in deescalation under extreme pressure. It started with a 911 call reporting an armed man. When officers located the 48-year-old suspect, Lotus, he was wiping mace off his face and already had his hand resting on a holstered firearm. Officers immediately drew their weapons, ordering him to raise his hands. Instead of complying, Lotus did the unthinkable. He unholstered his gun and began pacing back and forth, completely ignoring the guns pointed at him. Officers even attempted to use a taser, but it failed to connect properly, allowing the suspect to jump back into his vehicle and drive away. >> Push your hands up. I got a call of a man with a gun, so that's why I'm here. Okay, put your hands up. I need to make sure firearms on you. >> Push your hands up. Push your hands up. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. I'm going to tase you. You want me to tase you? >> Shoot. >> All right. Well, you're going to shoot me or put your hands up right now. Now get away from me. Can you tase him? Can you tase him? >> Get away. Put your hands up right now. Put your hands up right now. >> Move over from the car. Take him from the car. He might have a gun. >> I would get her out the car or drive off. One of the other. >> Get away from me. Do not put Take your hand off the gun. >> Take your hand. I got called here. >> Take your hand off the gun right now. I got called here with a man with a gun and I'm responding. If you put your hands up, I will put my gun away. >> You respond to a guy who got >> Okay. Can you I can listen to that. If you will take your hand off the gun, >> sir. >> This is not going to end well for any of us. 19. He's walking around. Has his hand on his firearm. >> Hey, watch crossfire. >> Get away from me. Tase him. Tase him. Tase >> him. >> Put the gun down. Put theing gun down. Hey, everyone get down. Put the gun down. >> Put the gun down. Hey, >> put the gun down. Put the gun down. >> Get away from me. >> Put the gun down. >> Sir, >> sir. >> Sir, talk to me. Can you please put down the gun? >> Sir, please put down the gun. Okay. We do not want to shoot you. >> Sir, put the gun down. >> If you put the gun down, every This will not This will not end. >> Nobody wants to shoot you. paid. >> Sir, you are holding a gun. >> I was not until I got paid to get away. >> You showed a gun to somebody. That's why we're here. >> Wait for me. No, I did not. >> I need you to talk to me. >> Lace off of my face. >> Okay. Well, somebody said you pulled out a gun and you said you were going to hurt somebody. Okay. >> No, I did not. >> Here. This is what I'm Let me talk to you. Okay. >> Listen to me, please. Sir. Sir, don't put the gun down so we can call this. >> What do you Hey, what do you want? What do you want? >> We need to talk to you, though. We can't just leave right now. >> Sir, can you just please put down the gun and we can talk? >> Hey, you put the gun down. I'll put my gun away. >> We all will. Just put the gun on top of the car. We will all put our guns away. I didn't do anything for white face out of my >> We We're here for a reason, though. You got to understand that. >> Call me white. >> Sir, sir, what's your first name? >> That's my name. >> Hey, what the cl 45 is leaving the car in traffic again. There's no answer the first couple times. 56. Are you still looking, >> dude? Metro looking for. >> All right, at this point we're not going to pursue him. All right. >> What happened? >> What do we got here? He starts walking around. He has a pistol in his uh in his waistband and a holster. So, we draw draw a gun on him and he starts walking around here. >> He takes out of the holster and walks around like this and we're having him at gunpoint and eventually gets back into his car and leaves. >> We have no complainant. The complainant called saying somebody was here with a gun. We tried to tase him, didn't work, and he just left. So, I mean, >> did the taser hit him? >> Yeah, one probe did. >> No [ __ ] What kind of car was he in? >> He was in a gray Kia. No front bumper. I mean, all all we really have at this point, I guess. I guess UW because he pulled his gun out, but we got our guns out at him, too. But that's about it. We have no complaining for the initial thing and obstructing, obviously. >> Still got eyes on him. We're approaching Rockway on 159. What do we want to do about this? >> I mean, there's no point in chasing him, right? Are your lights on? Fit. So you try to stop him. I'm sure he's not going to stop. >> No, we haven't gone over 40. >> All right, put your lights on. See if he stops. He doesn't real. >> I guess I'll wait for more units before I try that, right? Me and 23. This guy's signal wants to go northbound Oak Park from 159. >> About to turn northbound Oak Park with him. Try stop by. All right. Turn it right. Not too long. All right. Turn right. Not too long. report by county. Because the initial caller hadn't stuck around to file a formal complaint, officers didn't immediately initiate a high-speed pursuit. Instead, they followed him until they could execute a safe tactical stop. Now pinned down for the second time, Lotus still refused to drop the weapon. The primary officer on scene completely changes the game here. Using a calm, steady voice, he actively tries to build rapport, even offering him a cigarette just to deescalate the tension and prevent a shootout. >> Can you step out of the vehicle without the gun? >> I I'm allowed to carry a gun. I don't know if you can >> grab a lot. >> Hold on. Talk to me. Don't worry about them. Okay. >> Now, I'm in the first place. >> I showed up in the first place because somebody said you had a gun. And we were they were they were right. >> What are the chances you had a gun? wiping mace off of my face >> and we're trying to figure out why that's it. What What happened? We're trying to figure out why you had a gun out in front of people. >> I didn't have a gun out, >> sir. We got a call about it. I'm not lying to you. >> I didn't have a gun out. I was standing there wiping face wasn't my face. >> Well, why would I lie to you about that? >> You had a gun out previous to that. >> We had a caller about it, sir. So, we're just trying to investigate it and then you up and left. >> All right. Right here. Look at this gun. >> Yeah. Well, you got to understand you got you had a gun. That's why we were trying to talk to you. >> No, you didn't come to talk to me with guns. You came with uh taser. You tased me twice and you pulled out your gun >> before we did any of that. You pulled away from us. >> I hadn't pulled out anything. >> You pulled away from us. We were trying to speak with you. We wanted to check you. >> You pulled out a gun. >> Yes. He's got a rifle, sir. You got a gun, too. All right. I'm going to go to the other side of the car. All right. So, can we talk? Can we keep talking? I want to keep talking to you. I'll let you smoke a cigarette. All right. So, why'd you get maed? I'd like to get you out of the car without the gun, man. Well, how how'd you get maed? Why'd you get maed? It's It's important, man. I'm I'm trying to figure out what's going on. I'm trying to figure out why somebody said they saw a gun on you. I'm trying to figure out why you pulled away from us before we even had our guns out. I'm trying to figure out why you left. >> We didn't tear you until you had that gun out, sir. That's all on camera, too. All right. Hey, why don't you step out of the car? >> Can you see it in there right now? >> Keep going. Step out. >> He's finishing a cigarette, sis back as well. >> With your hands up. With your hands up. >> Is your firearm in that pouch? Leave the dog in the car. >> Stop. Stop moving. >> Stay right there. Stay right there. Just stay right there. >> Stay right there. Do what you think. >> Pistol was last in the right in his right hand. I see you, dude. Just Just relax. Just put your hands behind your back, man. I don't want to shoot you. Back up. Back up. Do it. Back up. I'm going to walk right up to you. All right. Back the Oh, shoot me. >> Back up. I rather cuff them. No. Don't Don't try to touch me. Don't try to touch me. Please don't try to touch me. Please. Please don't touch me. You just touched me once. That was one too many times. >> Please. I'll put Let's go grab it. >> I'll put the dog back up. I'll put the dog back up. Oh, that one worked. >> That wouldn't work. >> That wouldn't work. That one works. >> That one works. >> What the man? >> My belt is in my >> Check this pouch. >> I don't have it on me. It's in the >> I just want to make sure. Right. >> You did the first time. Supposed to be a quiet Sunday, sir. >> Yep. >> I know. Why did y'all show up? >> I got mace. If anything, you should showed up to help me. Like somebody you wiping mace out of your I couldn't see. >> You definitely need help. So, >> did you mace yourself? >> No, don't play. >> I don't It happens. >> Check this waistline one more time. >> All right. Call animal control. We have a dog here in this vehicle. >> She will overheat in that car. >> We're not going to leave the car. >> I promise. >> Stop like that. >> You got to get in the car. >> Come on. Let's walk to the car, >> please. Crazy. >> Yeah. I don't like being controlled. I don't like having the market abuse in my body. And neither do you. >> I hope you don't. >> Have a seat. Can I have a cigarette, please? When we get back to the stage and have a seat. >> Grab your cigarettes. I'm going to grab your water. I promise. >> I know you guys lie like that. >> I promise you. >> Can you Can you Can you reach in there, grab them, and show me that you have them at least? >> I'll grab them. >> The firearms in the passenger seat right there. >> You going to give me a cigarette for real >> at the station? Yes. You can't smoke in our squads. We'll give you one before you go into the station. All right, dog appears to be friendly. I'm going to see if I can just take him. Hey, buddy. Come on. Good boy. Good boy. Come on. It's okay. Good boy. Good boy. Come on. Come on. Let me get you. Let me get this. Okay. Here. Don't be spread here. Come on. >> Nice. Come on. Come on. Good boy. Good boy. Good boy. Good boy. Come on. Come on. Lotus finally stepped out of the car, but quickly began spouting sovereign citizen rhetoric, claiming he didn't like being controlled or forced to accept the mark of the beast. When he aggressively stepped toward the sergeant and refused to put his hands behind his back, the talk was officially over. A second taser was deployed and this time it worked perfectly, dropping him to the ground instantly so officers could finally secure the scene. Lotus was hit with heavy charges, including aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, aggravated assault, and seven counts of resisting a peace officer. Fortunately, his dog was safely rescued from the vehicle and taken to animal control without injury. According to FBI statistics, a massive percentage of officers killed in the line of duty are shot from extremely close range, making this level of patience by the officers nothing short of incredible. What do you think? Did police wait too long to deploy the taser? Drop your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for watching Body Cam Pulse.