West Virginia. An officer initiates a stop for expired plates, but the driver decides to treat the interaction like a highstakes poker game where he holds a handful of imaginary cards. He refuses to hand over his license. Claims he only stopped to let the officer pass and traps the patrolman in a loop of circular questions about whether he is being detained while he is clearly being detained. The situation shifts from annoying to kinetic when the chief of police arrives on the scene. Uh, good day. >> Stop. >> I did not. I stopped you. >> I pulled over to let you around. >> No. No. Your place are dead. >> I pulled you over to let me let you around. >> I'm telling you, your plates are expired. Now I got you stopped. That's what I'm trying to tell you. It >> been expired since May. Do >> you have me? You're detaining me. >> I need to see your driver's license. >> Why am I being detained? Am I being detained? >> Inspection sticks are dead. Your place are dead. You're not being detained. Your traffic's stop. >> Turn your phone on. >> That's all. >> Need to see your driver's license, your registration proof instrument. >> I Is that an order? >> No, that's that's a direction from a police officer. Are you ordering me to do something >> from the command of a police officer? Yes. Present your driver's license. That's state law. >> Am I required to? >> Yes, you are. >> Do you have evidence that I'm required? >> I'll tell you what. I'm going to ask you again. Then we'll get back up. We're going to arrest you. Show me your driver's license. Do you have one? >> Is that a requirement? >> You have You have a driver's license. >> Are you ordering me to do a thing? >> 606601. >> You call whoever you want. Are you giving me an order? Yes, I am. >> Do you have the authority? >> Under >> I need your assistance. Across from the uh football field. 606 headquarters. I'll be on a traffic stop. Across from the uh football field. >> Am I free to go? Am I free to go? >> Why are you detaining me? Why? >> Because your plates are dead. I need to see your driver's license. >> Am I required to have >> I told you you are required by law. >> You How do you know that? >> Called the state police academy, 39 years of training, 39 years of being on the job. That's why I know. Let me see your driver's license. >> Is that an order? >> That's an order. >> If I present you with a thing, >> present me with your driver's license. >> Can you use it against me in court? Depends on if they're expired. Depends on if they're suspended. Depends on >> I don't have to say anything yet. I know. I I know my rights. I know my rights. I know my rights. >> I'm not violating your rights. I'm asking for >> You're detaining me with no reason. Have I harmed it? Have I caused any other person harm, injury, or >> I have no problem with you? >> Have I committed crime? >> Other than the fact you're not giving me your driver's license. >> Is there a crime that I've committed? >> Have I committed a crime? If you don't present your driver's license, that'll be a crime. That's a force violation. So, I haven't committed a crime. >> You will go to jail. >> Why do you have me pulled over? I haven't done that. >> Because your points are expired. >> That's why you pulled me. >> I've told you that. Yeah. >> For what? >> I've told you that. >> Am I required to >> You keep saying the same thing over and over. Yes, you are required. >> Say to you, that's what I'm going to keep doing. >> You keep saying the same thing. >> Am I allowed to say what I wish? Am I not allowed to? >> Yes, you're allowed to talk all you want to, >> but I'm allowed to te ask you for your driver's license. >> Are you also allowed to use it in court against me? >> Are you allowed to use >> Do you have a driver's license? >> Will you use it in court? >> You must not have one. >> Will you use it in court against me? >> Do you have a driver's license? >> You're making assumptions, >> huh? >> You're making assumptions. >> I don't have to answer any of your questions. >> Well, don't >> I don't have to follow that command. >> Why such a hard Why Why such a hard line here? Why do you have me stopped from doing what? >> I just told you. I've told you 10 times. Your place are dead. >> Have I harmed? >> Your place are expired. 156. >> Have I committed a crime? Have I committed >> 606 headquarters? You run those uh registration? Did you run that? Are they expired? >> Why is he asking if they're expired? I thought he knew. >> Hi there. He refuses to present his driver's license and he thinks I had no reason to stop him. >> I don't think that's your driver's license. >> I'll beg your pardon. >> I'm Chief Harbert. Don't beg my pardon. You have to give him your driver's license. >> What is going on here? >> Are you public servants? >> Are you public servants? >> I'm the chief of police. >> Are you public? >> You either give him your driver's license. >> All right. Are you a public servant? >> Are you public servant? Are you a public servant? >> Are you a public servant? >> He's asking me a law for order. >> You either follow the law for order or it'll be removed from your vehicle. >> You understand? required to do. >> You are required by law. It's a lawful order. >> What? What is your authority? >> I'm the chief of police. Don't pull this crap with me. You will be brought out of the vehicle if you do not follow lawful orders. >> Very violent. You're being real violent. >> Being violent. >> You're being disrespectful and not following the law. >> Don't. >> We don't need to say anything. >> Yeah. Don't lock your door. >> Is that an order? >> What authority do you have to give me? >> I have authority. Don't pull this crap. >> What kind of authority? >> Authority by the state of West Virginia. >> Yeah. To do what? Serve the public or to harass me on the street? >> Nobody's harassing you. You were stopped by my officer lawfully. >> I stopped him around. I told him >> not legal. >> What does that mean? >> Don't get this crap. >> What does that mean? >> Tell me what it mean. I don't even know. I don't know who you are. What's >> your name? Michael. I don't know who you are. >> My name's Austin. >> You know exactly who I am. The chief of police of Shinston. I told you. >> Let's see your driver's license. >> Is that a requirement? >> It is a requirement. >> Am I being detained? >> Yeah, right now you are. Yes. >> Have I committed >> You're not ready to be arrested. >> Have I committed >> right now? You're Yes, you're committing a crime. You're denying a lawful order. >> Have an approximate age on this subject. So, you're going to push your luck where you're going to go to jail instead of just giving him your information. >> Okay. 20, 30, 40, 50. >> If I give him my information, is he able to use it against >> going to use against you in court? What he's doing is going to run it and make sure everything's valid. Is your driver's license not valid? >> You're not answering my question. >> I said, is your driver's license not valid? If I provide any information, >> what's going to be used against you in court is what you are doing right now is called obstructing. And I'm going to arrest you here in about two seconds. Do not comply with the lawful order. >> Why are you getting so angry? Have I committed a crime? >> You are right now. You're obstructing. You're obstructing an investigation with this traffic stop is. >> Laugh all you want. >> I want to arrest you. It's the traffic stop is considered an investigation. >> Why am I being detained? You got two more seconds before you're arrested for obstruction. >> So, give the driver's license or you're going to be arrested. >> Under what authority, sir. Get your hands out of my car. Keep your hands out of my car. >> This is very illegal. >> Get your hands out of my car. Don't tase me. >> I didn't do anything. >> You were given a lawful order. >> Open the door. >> Open the door. You are obstructing an investigation. Film all you want. It's on video already. We have not done anything. >> You were stopped on a lawful order. Now open your door. >> A lawful order? What are you talking about? >> Open your door now. >> Is that an order? >> Yes, it's an order. Open your door. >> Call. We got to call the police. >> We're obstructing an investigation. Open your door. >> What about reaching a bag? >> We're not reaching in the bag. >> You're not reaching anything. >> He's getting a bottle. >> Open your door. >> Get that thing pointed away from my face. >> Get out of the car. >> This guy This is unbelievable. This is almost out of control. >> Is that an order? >> YES, IT IS. >> UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY? >> COME ON. NOW, GET OUT OF THE CAR. >> WHAT AUTHORITY ARE YOU DOING this under? >> Do you can see above all of our hands? >> People can see. We're not doing anything wrong. >> We're not doing anything wrong. >> Get out of the car. >> We're not doing Hey, >> get out of the car now, >> sir. Get out of my car. Get out of my car. >> This is breaking an This is breaking AN AGAIN. >> You [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] YOU PIECE OF >> [ __ ] OUT OF THE >> You piece of [ __ ] You [ __ ] >> Do you see this? DO YOU SEE THIS? >> THIS IS HEY, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. I am not doing a thing. >> You get back and I'm not doing a thing. >> You were trying to grab him. >> I'm not doing a >> You were trying to grab him. >> You see this? Breaking. You're under Hey, >> out of the car now. >> Hey. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm coming. >> Out of the car. >> Hey, I'm coming. I'm coming. >> To understand why this traffic stop ended with 50,000 volts instead of a signature on a citation, we have to look past the shouting and analyze the psychological game the driver is playing. He is using a tactic known as recursive looping. By repeatedly asking, "Is that an order?" And, "Do you have evidence?" He isn't actually looking for answers. He is trying to seize control of the conversation. Psychologically, this is designed to exhaust the officer's cognitive resources and force a procedural slip up. The driver believes that if the officer fails to say the specific magic words required by his internet derived script, the arrest will be invalidated. It is a gamification of the legal system where he thinks he can win on a technicality before the game has even started. The chief of police, however, recognizes this tactic immediately. His refusal to engage in the debate and his rapid escalation to the taser is a calculated tactical decision. In law enforcement, allowing a non-compliant subject to stall on the side of a busy road increases the danger for everyone. The chief isn't being impatient. He is neutralizing a liability. From a legal perspective, this video serves as a perfect illustration of the Supreme Court ruling in Pennsylvania versus Mims 1977 colliding with the use of force continuum. The court ruled that during a lawful traffic stop, a police officer has the absolute authority to order a driver out of the vehicle. When the driver refuses to exit, he isn't standing up for his rights. He is committing the crime of obstruction. By locking himself in the car and refusing to move, he transitions from passive non-compliance to active resistance. This is the critical legal threshold that authorizes the use of intermediate weapons like a taser. The taser is designed for neuromuscular incapacitation. It overrides the subject's central nervous system to force compliance when verbal commands fail. The driver thinks his refusal is a form of peaceful protest, but under the law, it is a physical act of defiance that justifies a physical response. His shouts of breaking and entering and destruction of property while being tased expose a fascinating sociological paradox common in these encounters. He rejects the state's authority to regulate his driving, yet immediately appeals to the state's laws for protection when he feels wronged. He is attempting to use Darvo, deny, attack, reverse victim, and offender. He denies his obstruction, attacks the chief's methods, and reverses the roles to paint himself as the victim of a violent crime rather than the perpetrator of one. He wants the protection of the statutes without the obligation of submission. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you believe a police officer is wrong, there is a right way and a disastrous way to handle it. The disastrous way is what you see here, litigating the constitutionality of the stop on the side of the highway. The roadside is an environment of enforcement, not adjudication. Police officers are not judges. They cannot dismiss your ticket because you made a clever argument. The correct course of action is to comply with the lawful orders, hand over your license, step out if asked, and survive the encounter. Then you take that fight to the courtroom. In court, you have a judge, a lawyer, and due process. On the side of the road, all you have is a taser and a pair of handcuffs. By trying to win the argument in the street, this driver turned a minor administrative infraction into a painful lesson in conductivity. He proved that while you can ignore the laws of man, you cannot ignore the electricity coursing through your nervous