She's She's getting arrested right now. She's not at our headquarters. We haven't processed her yet. >> The amount's definitely underount is definitely under 200. There's a reason why I'm asking right now. The amount is definitely under 200. Right. >> On August 16th, 2025, officers responded to a retail store after security reported suspected shoplifting involving merchandise said to be under $200. The woman was taken into custody and primarily spoke Spanish. The central issue is not whether police could investigate the allegation, but whether arrest authority, the search, custodial questioning, and Miranda [music] were kept legally separate. >> Hi. >> You guys called? >> You need help? >> Yeah. >> You guys called? >> I don't know. I have to call. >> Okay. The security office. >> Yeah. Security. >> The main office. >> I think we're good. >> Where's the uh security office? Straight back. >> Okay. >> No, I think they got it. >> Yes. >> Oh, back here. >> Yeah. The shoplifter. >> Are they back? Your offices are back here. >> All right. Great. boss hasn't with me, I guess. >> Guess so. It's all right. We'll we'll eat Lenny's arrest. >> You speak Spanish? >> No. >> She only speaks Spanish. So, she says >> she's I haven't explained any of the paperwork to her. >> Apparently, she's done this before. It's a thing. She's She's quite a lawyer. a little bit. >> Yeah. A little used. Okay. All right. Cool. >> We We We could do this without even talking. >> So, I'll have them run her. This is all the stuff. Yes, >> P4 headquarters. >> NJ lawyer. >> Your lawyer. >> Okay. >> I just need to talk about my lawyer. >> I'm not talking to your lawyer right now. >> What did you need? Uh, and badge number just give me yours. >> Yeah, it's fine. 51 >> 520. >> I'm sorry. >> No, we don't process it in HomeGoods. We process it, right? >> Cool. A table. >> Our new guy speaks Spanish. We'll figure that out when we >> She's She's getting arrested right now. She's not at our headquarters. We haven't processed her yet. >> Is she going to be R? >> I'll talk to this guy. Like, >> we don't know that yet. We'll let her call you when we get back to our headquarters and we know if she's going to be rwarded or not. >> Okay. All right, brother. Thank you. >> All right. >> What's the total >> 153? >> Okay. >> Yeah. As long as she doesn't have any active warrants or anything, she'll be our award cuz it's under 200. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. We have that. All right. Are you >> I'm not rushing you guys. Stay right there for now. 05 02 1 0 0 5 02 1 0 >> Okay, I got [clears throat] the >> I need my phone. >> You can hear me. Thank you. >> All right, turn around for me. >> We'll get it to you. Ma'am, this is going to be searched. Do you have anything in there you shouldn't have? drugs, weapons, or anything? >> No, no, my drive, my keys and my >> Okay. Oh, your car is here. Okay. Do you have any stolen merchandise in your vehicle? >> What's the address of this? >> Standby for a second. >> Huh? >> Stand by. >> That's all right. You ever been arrested before? >> Shoplifting. >> Okay, >> come back in here. Come here. >> Uh, just going to do a quick search. Okay. Do you have anything on you that that's going to [clears throat] >> Do you have anything on you? Anything in your pockets? Nothing. >> Okay. Good thing they didn't give me a whole stack of these today. Yeah. >> The strongest issue arises after custody is clear. Miranda versus Arizona requires safeguards before custodial interrogation. And Rhode Island versus Inis treats express questions likely to produce an incriminating response as interrogation. Asking whether more stolen merchandise was in the vehicle fits that concern. The transcript does not show earlier warnings, but that cannot prove none were given. The next issue is what authority supported the arrest. If the incident is confirmed as occurring in New Jersey, New Jersey statutes section 2C2011 matters directly. It classifies shoplifting below $200 as a disorderly person's offense and permits warrantless arrest when an officer has probable cause to believe shoplifting occurred. The store allegation and merchandise evidence may support probable cause, but the transcript does not capture every fact known when the arrest was made. Once a lawful custodial arrest exists, the search analysis changes. United States versus Robinson allows a full search of the arrestes person incident to a valid custodial arrest. That is broader than the limited protective frisk discussed in Terry versus Ohio. The transcript supports a search of the woman and her belongings after arrest, but it does not show a vehicle search. Any separate vehicle search would require its own legal basis. >> Natalie, I have to check the store phone number. >> Yeah. >> Natalie, do you know the store phone? >> The store? >> Yeah, it should be on the phone there. It's not saying on the phone. on momento the the office the the store >> the general number >> I got it >> because my [clears throat] connection is not good here it's still >> yeah it's par symphony nothing works here >> don't there's different lines I call 9208 line form. This is the case number right here. 2550210. >> Okay. This is your copy of it. >> All right. Our copy ready to go. >> Um, >> do we have the receipt? >> Oh, I don't >> Are you able to get a headline receipt and total all the uh >> not yet because she took all the prize tickets off? >> We can come back for it. I just need a >> an ID on the amount. >> I just need an email address. So once the I get the email address, you'll have access to the video once I upload it. The receipt, I'll put it on there, too. Everything. >> You can take my email. It's cy >> at parol.com. >> So you're going to get an an invite to their Genitech system. So once you have that invite, you can access all the >> The amount's definitely underount. There's a reason why I'm asking right now. The amount is definitely under 200, right? That's what the store person calculated. I will read it in a few minutes. So, just to make sure. >> Sounds good. And we'll bring in a voluntary statement for you before we leave. >> Okay. >> You're carry do you mind coming out? We're going to give you a voluntary statement for your security officer there and we'll um we'll come back for that. >> Excuse us. You want to go this way? Okay, let's go this way. This way. She's leading the way. Go this way. We're going to go this car right here. Okay. >> We're going to go around onto this side. Just hold up for a second. Hold up. P4 be advised. Female has no active ATS and no. >> Thank you. Could you just grab a voluntary stand for me? Good. It's good. It's a quick ride. Do you have one? I have a bunch. >> I just put a bunch in here. Here we go. >> Where's her car at? Ask her where her car is. >> Mina car at the security officer fill out this portion right here from here to here. Uh other side >> other side by Marshalls >> by Marshalls. Nissan Pathfinder. What color? >> It is gray. >> Gray. >> And my my keys. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably It's just going to say here, but it's a Nissan Pathfinder. It's parked over there. It's gray. Shouldn't give me a great description of where, but >> [snorts] >> She got two deals. We'll obviously go through this better back there, but yeah, it's we'll make sure this all matches and if it's even her. >> Yeah. Lenny's not going to hear the end of this. >> Just double check the credit card her name. All right. Turn off my glass in there. Where is Duma? That's Burton County. I think that's Bergen County. All set to go. >> You want in your front seat or you want me back here? I'll >> leave it back there. All right. >> Nice bag. Pretty cool. >> All right. Coming in. >> Yeah. >> Unless um Do you even want the new kid to come in and do it cuz he speak Spanish? Like obviously I'll start it or >> Yeah. Go go go in with him and then once that new kid gets in there. >> Okay. I mean, the only thing he needs to do is read her the Miranda. That's >> Yeah, it's just basic. >> I don't need I have all her information right here. >> That's the view. Yeah, exactly. So, >> all right. >> The language barrier matters most when rights are explained and a waiver is requested. Officers later discuss using a Spanish-sp speakaking officer to read Miranda. A sound step because comprehension matters, but a later warning does not automatically erase an earlier custodial question. The transcript also contains an unclear reference to a lawyer. Yet, it is too ambiguous to establish that the woman personally invoked counsel during interrogation. The officers appear to keep the encounter controlled, check warrant status, gather store evidence, and plan for Spanish language Miranda warnings. The concern is the apparent investigative question after custody, but before any warning shown in the transcript. The woman appears to follow movement and processing directions without escalation. Neither cooperation nor frustration proves or disproves shoplifting. Guilt requires evidence and legal process. Huh? We're bringing you to headquarters, please. >> What color did you say? >> What color is your car? >> Gray. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. No. No. Are you going home today? Maybe. I don't know. We just got to process you. Okay. Paperwork. Paperwork. And then And then we'll bring you back. All right. Two day. >> Two day. I'll be 65 >> 1028 New Jersey. >> 1028 New Jersey. Um, as long as you don't have any warrants, it's under $200. You'll go home. >> Whiskey. See? >> Oh [ __ ] before. >> Go play the whiskey 82 Michael X-ray Victor comes back to 2017. He's on Pathfinder four-door silver register to a Quan A Cabello. Two practical lessons follow. First, police should separate routine custody instructions from questions designed to obtain evidence before Miranda is confirmed. Second, a language barrier should be addressed before seeking a waiver or substantive statement. The transcript ends with processing, not a verified release, charge, plea, or conviction. The core principle is simple.