She's over there. >> Detainer, detainer right now. Is there anything in this bag? >> No. >> Okay. Give me those bags. >> It's my purse. >> Yeah, I know. That's why I'm telling you to give me those bags. Yeah, that bag's full of uh Victoria's Secret stuff. Is that Is that the second $1,000 amount? >> Less than 4 minutes into the encounter, the tone changes sharply. An officer tells the woman there is no reason to take things to another level. Seconds later, another officer is told to detain her. The footage comes from Boynton Beach Mall on March 26th, 2024, after a store employee reported suspected retail [music] theft and gave officers a description and direction of travel inside the mall. >> All right. All right. Are they Are they still here or no? >> Yeah. Well, I mean, she walked out that way, but God knows what store she probably like jumped into or she probably like ran out the mall or whatever. She seen me on the phone and when she seen me on the phone, she started like speed walking a little bit faster towards that way. I tried to call the Finish Line to see if they had seen like some kind of kind of like outside of them, too, to see, but they was like I I couldn't catch her on time. >> What Remember what she was wearing? >> Yeah, she had a blue uh pants like nurse scrubs. So, blue nurse scrubs with a white shirt. >> Did you tell dispatch that? >> Yeah, I gave them all the description already. >> Um >> She had a full locker bag, so she came originally to exchange something. She was looking at these shirts here in the front. I had already seen her, so I came up to her, "Hey, how are you?" And then she was like, "Oh, I'm just looking." And then I was like, "Okay." And then she was like, "Here." Looking for her other shirt. And I was like, "Oh, what size do you need?" And she was like, "Oh, a medium." She was like, "But I can help myself." She was like She was like, "I can do it by myself." And then I was like, "You're already making it so obvious for yourself." But I'm like, "Okay." So, I was like, "Okay." But no, I was like, "This is my job, whatever." So, I grabbed the stack from her and I'm like, "Oh, I'm going to check the size for you." And she was like, "Okay, well, I'm looking for a medium." And she walked away from me. And I didn't have a medium, so I was like, "Well, I have a large or a small. Which one do you prefer?" She was like And she was ignoring me the whole time. Like she wasn't talking. Like I was like, "Hello?" >> Yeah, she had a bunch of those things on her already. She's like, "A large?" I'm like, "A large? Do you Do you want a large? Do you want a large?" And she just kept ignoring me. And then she My other sales sales associate that's here right now, she was like super nice. And she's like, "Hey, how are you? How's your day? How's your And I was like, "Oh, I was like, did I offend you? Is everything okay?" And then she's like completely ignoring me, whatever. So, I already knew she was doing. So, she grabbed the shirt I Like she had it in her hand. I turned the corner to help another customer. And I turned back around. The shirt is not in her hand. It is not in the mall. >> Okay. So, I know she walked out of here. That's it. >> No, no, no. Just Just one One that you know >> Yeah, just one shirt. I know for sure. I found it 40 bucks, probably. Yeah. But she's like, "No, like I have camera footage just for a while with her." Like she She's done this multiple times in the mall. So, I know she did it again. She was wearing a mask. Yeah, she was wearing like the COVID mask. Like just a mask. She had her hair like in braids. She had it in a bun. And then nurse scrub um blue pants. >> Uh black female or white female? >> Black female. She's like a little heavier. >> She had a 911 >> a Foot Locker bag with her. Um a Foot Locker bag. Oh, look, that's her right there. >> Hm? >> That's her right there. >> Okay. That's 911 Okay. 911 Black female, yellow shirt, blue jeans. And blue pants. >> She called the police. >> Yeah? >> She called >> 911, what store? >> Look. >> Let's go back and figure it out. >> Okay. >> Yeah, wait. Wait a minute. Um this watch her. >> 911 >> Did she Did she come in here? Did she drop something? >> I just walked in the store. >> We just [clears throat] called it Attraction. >> 911 >> What's the name of the store? >> Attraction. >> I'm not 911 I'm not Yeah. >> I walked right here. >> 911 >> I just walked right here. I just walked in here. >> Yeah. Maybe this belongs to her. >> Do you have secrets? No, I'm >> These are not ours. >> No. >> She got hit somewhere and she's wearing it. >> Okay, great. And she you started putting her stuff in. >> That's all. >> It's not ours. >> I thought for a minute No no shirt or anything? >> Shirt? >> Mhm. What are you doing? >> I'm not. I'm not. >> You want to be put in handcuffs? >> No. No. >> Okay. So chill. >> Yeah. >> I mean, there's no reason to take it to another level cuz we're going to get all this figured out. >> Right. >> Is there anything in this bag? >> No. >> Okay. Give me those bags. >> That's my purse. >> Yeah, I know. That's why I'm telling you to give me those bags. >> Okay. I'm going to give you I'm going to give >> Thank you. No, does she have that bag? Hey, uh >> She dropped it. >> Detainer detainer right now. >> Huh? >> Appreciate it. Give me all this here. Give me all that. Put your hands on your head. >> But I didn't even do nothing. >> All right. Do you have Yeah. Do you have her uh Do you have video in here? >> No. >> You don't have any video? But that's not your >> It's not ours. >> You didn't see her do that, but but she came When she walked in, she came to this area? >> Yeah, I'm walking there. I'm picking my shirt. She came here. I got the sound because I thought that something fell down and I came here. >> Counter 13. >> Do you want >> Yeah, gather that. >> Collect that and then bring it back. >> Yeah, we'll have to go see if there's anything from Foot Locker in there. And then we'll we'll have to go to uh um Victoria's Secret and Jesus. Hey, did you find the shirt? >> No. >> Okay. I I didn't go through her bags. They might be tucked in between here somewhere. Yeah. She was standing over there and she came over here. It was quick. Uh-huh. All right. >> What do we have? >> Uh Cuz she's got stuff with security bands on it. >> Yeah, that bag's full of Victoria's Secret stuff. I mean, full full. >> Okay. >> Um she got to dumped it in in here. I didn't see anything for Foot Locker in here. Uh so she might still have it on. >> The central question is what officers knew when a conversation became a detention and whether later facts supported probable cause for arrest. This video examines that sequence as a documentary case study in investigative detention, retail theft evidence and merchandise valuation. The analysis follows the timeline, the evidence officers gathered, the limits of that evidence and the legal standards governing each step. The first layer is the employee report of recent description, a direction of travel and an account that merchandise could no longer be found where expected. Under Terry versus Ohio, a brief investigative detention requires specific and articulable facts supporting reasonable suspicion. Those facts can justify investigation, but suspicion is not proof. And an employee's concern alone does not establish criminal guilt. The evidentiary picture changes when officers reach the woman and store employees indicate that items in the area do not belong to that store. Officers then report finding a bag containing a large amount of Victoria's Secret merchandise, including items with security devices. That combination can strengthen the basis for detention. But the transcript alone cannot prove exactly where every item was recovered or who placed it there. Florida statute 812.015 defines retail theft and allows a law enforcement officer to take a person into custody when probable cause supports a qualifying retail theft investigation and recovery or prosecution. Here is store identification, reportedly recovered merchandise, security devices, and later inventory information support the officer's developing case. Still, probable cause is not a conviction. It does not establish guilt. >> You got any identification on you? >> No. >> Hm? >> Uh it's probably in my other phone. >> Now, if your phone's in here, it's my phone. >> I'll call my sister. Can I call my sister to tell them that they they left me? They were missing me. >> They were missing you? >> They left. They were down by Macy's. >> Mhm. Yeah, I'll I'll I'll get that. And do you think your your ID's in your wallet in there? >> Yes, mhm. >> Where you from? >> West Palm. >> Florida Mall or Target 0 5 0 0 0 0 8 2 8 2 8 2 Y 0 0 8 Discover card 0 0 0 0 0 0 >> Okay. >> Coffee large and lighter. >> What do you think it is? >> It's right over there. >> This side? >> Right over there. Nothing I can do about it. >> Right there? >> Yeah, right over there. >> Oh, you want me to >> Yeah. You want to go over there if you >> Kind of like three times. >> 59? >> We'll get a female officer over here and take care of you. We have uh female on napkins at the station. Um Do you have any warrants? >> No, I don't have any warrants. >> On three. >> Okay, Mike. >> Last time you were arrested? Hm? >> Recently. >> Recently? >> Yeah, about a month ago. >> All right. Have you dealt with that one yet? >> No. >> Um we'll get all your family stuff arranged. You know, and then make sure you contact uh you know, especially your grandma or your mom and let her let Let her know what's going on. Um just uh totaling all this, it's going to be uh probably a retail felony. >> Right. >> So um but we're not going to >> [snorts] >> leave your family home. All right? >> Okay. I just want her to know in a ample enough of time, you know, so you could try my cell phone. I could just tell her real quick. >> Yeah. >> It's It's easier that way. Cell phone. >> Um >> The female officer. >> Alpha four. I'm going to go over there. >> Mom. Yes, I know. Yeah, yeah, she called me or whatever. I know you're not feeling good or whatever. Um I I caught a brawl with Deidra them to the I caught a brawl with Deidra them to the mall or whatever at the at Boynton Beach at the Boynton Beach Mall. The police talking to you on the speakerphone or whatever. So, I just wanted you to keep my baby or whatever for me cuz the girl in Foot Locker had called You on speakerphone. The girl in Foot Locker had called, but I know Deidra them gone. You know, they when they seen the police they ran. So, um they left me spelled out here. So, um you on speakerphone. And um just um get my baby, please, okay? You know the girl I be with. Deidra. Oh, yeah, thank you. That's You know the girl that I be with or whatever. So, um if you get a chance or whatever, just go by and check on my baby. I was at the um Boynton Beach Mall. So, that's where they're going to take me from. I was at Foot Locker. Mama, you done told me. You done told me. Um you on speakerphone. Yeah. You on speakerphone. If I would have just went and did what I needed to do today or this week. And you know I was trying to do it. You know I was. And I just told her 7:45 or whatever. Mom. I'm I know you I know I know you see me. I know you. You know? You know? You know? But if I'm already out on bond Yeah. Yeah. No, he just was telling me No, he crazy on the head for real, though. I was on over at on foot locker. >> All right, good. >> Oh, oh. >> Excuse me. >> Well, oh no. >> as your baby's okay, I'm >> Yeah, I'm just I'm >> Just go take care of it. >> Yeah, I'm just letting you know what was going on. So, DJ and >> You'll be able to talk to her again. >> Okay, uh DJ and Big Pat just left me, so I just want you to know they got the um They they got all the keys to the car and everything, so they gone. You already know how that [ __ ] go, Mom. So. That's that. Yeah. You're going to have to get it from um I I can't get it on my phone, so you're going to have to you're going to have to call um You're going to have to call um see if you uh call um damn, I was trying to tell you call Big Pat Mike and see if he get um give you the number to uh the DJ or whatever, but he said that I'll be able to make another phone call once I get down to the station. [music] >> Yeah, as long as it's it's it's concerning your baby getting getting it back to your to your mom and All right. >> You you oh Mom, >> I'll call again. >> All right, Mom. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right, she'll she'll call you again. >> I'll be gone. You're [ __ ] kidding me. >> Hey, can we just stop the recording? >> Wow. >> She was just here. She was about to report it. She's right there. >> We were just about to report it. >> Did you see her? >> Yes. >> Did you just come out and take a look at her and see if the person that we're with Hey Doug, can you step aside? Doug, can you step aside? >> My bag. >> Yeah. >> It's like her bag, yep. Thank you. I was just going to report it. We were just checking the doors where she was. I went back there. She made some wild noises and ran out of the store looking for her sister. >> Do you have >> Oh my >> good. >> So, it's good, but >> Um do you have a place where you can just go through this, itemize it, and then >> Yeah, we're going to make a whole report and every single every single SKU will be recorded. >> Very good. >> Down to the very dollar. >> And you do want to prosecute them soon. >> Um, yeah, let me get my store manager. >> Okay, cool. >> For sure, give me just a moment. >> Yep. >> Hi. >> Hello. It's I mean, I I I don't know. There's a lot of items in here, but >> Okay. >> as far as valuation, if you could just uh give us an itemized list. >> Yes, we will. You know how much of panties? >> Oh my god, we were just looking >> There's a lot. >> Oh my god. Okay. Yeah, we noticed that she took panties. We went back to look in the drawer and we saw that she was missing, but we didn't know that she took a beauty as well. The same drawer. She had a shopping bag also. We're going to We're going to You know our AP person? They'll provide you with a case number. >> Okay. Can you give me a valuation or at at least uh an approximation of the value? >> Yep. We were just about to see what the stock was like. >> So, did somebody else call? >> Yeah, uh it was actually Foot Locker. She was stealing from there and there's probably others. Yeah. I mean, why not, right? >> Not anymore. >> What's your first name? Or do you have any identification on you? >> I don't It's It's in the back. >> Yeah, she was She was I went back there and she She got frazzled. >> But >> And she had the bag and just bee-lined it after you left. >> shopping bag also that she was putting stuff in. >> Mhm. >> In addition. >> So, there was another one. >> I went back there and I wasn't leaving. I kept eyes on her. >> She had a green bag. She dropped her shopping bag and just ran out. >> Okay. And you saw her filling it up with the bag. >> No, I saw I walked back there. Her back was to me. I saw her bent over with her bag and she She looked kind of scrambled and quickly was like, "Oh, I don't have the size." >> And after >> were suspecting her. Okay, all right, got it. >> After she left, she went back, checked the drawer, saw a section missing, and then I went back and we don't we don't ever leave our sections like that. >> And that's when you walked in. We were just having a pile of bras. >> And you all have video surveillance in here, I'm assuming? >> we do. >> Yep, we do. >> Any other stores that she stole from besides Foot Locker? >> Um not that we know of just yet, but I'm sure there are. Yeah. >> That's crazy. Like we have people steal in here sometimes, but not not like this. >> Well, it's it was before your time, I'm sure, but we used to have like groups of people come in here and just start loading up bags. >> we still get we still get two of them. There's two men that do it. >> Yeah. >> And they take the bras and then they leave and they don't steal much. [music] So it's not a big deal. We just report it, get a new one. >> Do you know what she wants to come for? I'm sure it'll be just under the felony amount. But she probably has prior convictions, so that'll help. >> Well, we haven't gotten to the very sexy part, so these are just these are nothing. This is just pocket change. >> I'm sorry. The You said the the what? >> These panties are more expensive than that. >> Oh, okay. I got you. >> Sorry. >> No, I didn't know if there was a style that >> It is. We This is kind of like cotton and then we have like the very sexy and then we have synthetic lace. >> Oh, I got you. Yeah. >> Etc. So what does it have to be at a a grand? Is that what it has to be at? >> Um no, I believe the threshold is 750 now. >> Okay. >> I got to double check on that. >> All right. >> But um again, she probably has prior convictions, so What I was saying is yeah, she probably prior convictions, which is uh creates it to be a conviction of a felony charge. Got it. They're still uh tallying up over there. Um >> I got to move over to the bench. >> Okay, cool. Um I'm going to give them the case number. >> Count 7104. >> What did What did you get? >> So, I got the receipt. >> Okay. >> And then I have her info. I know she's in the system already. And then I have her sent I'm going to send her the link so she can upload the video. >> There's video where she's concealing [music] it and where she puts it in the bag. >> Same over there. There's They're tallying up that whole duffel bag. >> Yeah. >> It's over a grand so far. >> Yeah. >> So, then um >> Are you doing count for alpha two? >> Are you going to run a criminal history? >> I already did it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> She's going to have >> She has a hold for you or a check area? >> She's on probation. >> Um but there's >> Sorry, I'm still tallying them. >> There's >> Yeah. >> Oh, there's there's a thousand over there. >> She said it's supposed to be second court. >> And then she'll get the enhancements for the other ones. >> Mhm. >> So, it'll be what? Three felonies? >> Right. >> Okay. >> 2000 total and all the women for alpha >> We're going to be second court. >> And the grand total is >> 100 >> The grand total. >> What was? Let's see. >> I think it's the same girl. >> You think so? >> Cuz she had a face mask and the exact same description. >> Same description. >> Okay. >> Like Kate was here on that same day. Same thing. [music] She said, "I'm pretty sure that's her." >> Okay. Cool. >> And that's the grand total. >> For today? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right, cool. Here is the case number, the arresting officer. Um We can take this, right? >> Mhm. >> I'm going to do the request. >> Yeah, we'll get it. >> Let me go get with the other officer. I'll be back. >> Okay. I already gave you the five year telephone number. >> Another Victoria's Secret bag. >> Another one? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um possibly another prior incident related to her too in the 20s. >> They got her on >> Um so, I'll tally this up and then give the grand total. Right now, we're at grand total $1,085 so far. >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. That's another bag of Victoria's Secret. >> So, that's is that the second $1,000 bag? >> Well, no, he's going to go do it again. That's probably another $1,000. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. I'll see you sometime. I want to >> Value becomes legally important as employees begin itemizing merchandise. Florida statute 812.014 places theft of property valued at $750 or more, but less than $5,000 within third degree grand theft. The body camera records a running tally of $1,085 so far. The words so far matter because another bag remained to be counted. So, that figure is not a final total. The investigation also develops through witness identification and surveillance references. Employees say the detained woman is the same person they observed in the stores, describe merchandise missing after she left, and discuss surveillance. Those statements can contribute to probable cause, but the body cam transcript records what witnesses and officers say about the surveillance. It does not itself establish what that separate video shows. >> Um >> Sure, but can I see your ID, please? >> All right. >> All right. >> I was at the office earlier and I forgot my ID. That's why >> You ready to go back up? >> Is she trespassing for a year? >> Um so, yeah, you are trespassing for a year. We need that from today to next year. Okay. >> You can go back up. >> Always good to see you. >> Thanks. >> Yeah. >> And I'm going to have to take your ID. >> Yeah, one minute. I don't know, yeah. >> No. No. No way. She's like >> When she gets right up in front of the desk, they're going to need you in the lobby. What you got over there? >> That makes sense cuz all all them surfaces was empty. >> Did she have a green bag with her? She had a dark green bag. It's not that one. No, it had words on it. I think. >> Well, that's all we got so far. Maybe in the other the other place. >> this one and she had of like a darker like kind of like a lighter kind of like >> Like a plastic bag or shopping bag? >> a plastic kind of like that and it had words on it. Like what >> Let me go check this place next door and I'll be back. If you could just tally that up. >> Yeah, I will definitely >> need this to like reopen this or I'll just hold on to this? >> Hold on to that and then we can just add the add them >> Okay, cool. Okay. You said there was another bag. Look at green bags. I'm just going to go check attraction or whatever it is. >> Is that first store? >> Uh yeah. >> Yeah, he's going to I I think he's writing something down. >> What store were we missing? I don't think we're missing any stores, but she went into attraction. >> Yeah, let's let's do a do a sweep of the store. >> Take care of [music] her. I'll meet I'll meet you She needs a case number. >> 40 4194 >> 4914 >> 4914 >> 4914 >> 4914 >> 10-4 >> Thank you. >> Hi. >> Hey. >> We're just going to uh look around one more time, see if she dumped anything else. >> Yeah. >> 10-4 So, it's your first day? >> Yeah, my first day. >> First day, you see this. >> I'll double check. >> Yeah. >> All right. I thought you did too. >> 281 >> I provided the caller with advice. You can close it out and archive. >> 10-4 >> Yeah, that's where we found the first bag. >> Oh, okay. >> Double check. >> All right. So, just we just got to get the the total from Victoria's Secret. So, it's just two stores right now. >> Yeah. Um I'll do the case from the other day. >> 10-4 72nd Street 406 Southeast 2nd Street >> Thank you. No. No. >> Kimble, look at you, man. That's a good old brain of yours. >> 10-4 >> I thought it was for sure. >> 4914 Yeah. >> [music] >> How how you? >> Good. Good. >> I'm you're having a lovely day today. >> Usually we don't catch them like this. >> I was surprised. When I walked in, I was like, I already had a feeling because we recognized her. She ran up the second bag now. Yep. >> Yeah. >> I've already run the first. >> Yeah, that was over a thousand, so uh And then I didn't realize cuz there was like a a towel over it. I didn't realize there was other stuff. It was all all yours. >> So, it's coming up at six, but it should be It should be coming up as regular price, right? >> Oh. >> Or you just go with the uh go with the sale price. I'll be right back. So, if you could just explain to me just as you did before about um the woman that was in here and what she was doing and how she responded to you trying to make contact with us. >> Um shortly after we opened at 11:00, >> Mhm. >> um I came back to grab an iPad in the office and I noticed a customer that I had not seen come in. I dropped off the iPad and came back this direction. Her back was to me. She was in front of this counter table. And she was fumbling in the drawers with her bags and I made my presence known. Excuse me, may I help you? And she dropped a few things and set a few things down and pretended to be on the phone whether she was or not, you know, I'm looking for this size. I'm looking for some other drawers. I came right up. I stood right up next to her. We're kind of taught that if you're suspicious, then you're supposed to give excellent customer service and make your presence known. So, I was offering to help her with sizes and styles and I think [music] she knew I was onto her. She set some stuff down. I walked over to the register and kept watching and then she kind of left in a hurry, said, "I'm going to get my sister. I left my bag here." and she ran out the store. >> She ran out the store with the bags that >> Yeah. >> Okay. And that was this area here. I'm just uh >> Yeah. >> documenting this area here. >> Yeah, she was kind of bent over like this when I came up from behind. she was kind of rummaging, and then she Oh, she dropped a few things, and >> Right, right. >> saw me, and >> Okay. And she made no attempt to pay for the items, right? >> No, sir, she did not. >> And then, afterwards, the woman that we had made contact with, was that the same woman that you had seen in the store? >> Yes, it was. >> Okay. Do you swear and affirm everything you told me is the truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God? >> So help me God, I swear. >> Yes, you swear. Do you want to prosecute? >> Yes. >> It's uh up to the store, you know, what to do. Does the store want to prosecute? >> Wait, can I call my DM? Cuz I I don't just want to phone her. I cut the conversation short because >> Look, >> you cuz you just walked in here. >> Circle, welfare checks, too many contacts. >> Uh we got our merchandise back, but we still want to prosecute. Yes. Okay. Yes, all right. >> Okay, there you go. Thank you. >> The officers' handling earns an A- minus. They build the case progressively, seek store identification, preserve merchandise, request itemized values, and ask for surveillance rather than relying only on the first report. The concern is precision officers discuss felony exposure, prior history, and possible multiple felonies before the transcript establishes final valuation or filed charges. That is an investigative assessment, not a court result. The detained woman's handling earns a C. The transcript does not indicate a violent confrontation, and she communicates with officers and is allowed to contact family. At the same time, the evidence described by employees and officers creates substantial legal exposure as store identifications, merchandise, and valuation accumulate. The grade evaluates choices and consequences shown in the encounter. It is not a declaration of criminal guilt. The outcome visible in the transcript is limited. The woman is detained. Officers prepare an arrest case. Store employees request prosecution. Merchandise is itemized. And surveillance upload is discussed. The transcript does not confirm the filed charges. Any plea, dismissal, conviction, sentence, or court disposition. Those facts require official records. And the body cam should not be edited to imply an outcome the available record does not establish. Two practical lessons follow from this record. First, officers strengthen a retail theft case by separating suspicion from verifiable evidence witness accounts, ownership, recovered merchandise, surveillance, and value. Second, a person in a police encounter can communicate without turning a disputed allegation into an argument on scene. Neither cooperation nor disagreement proves guilt. The legal posture turns on evidence officers can articulate. The most important question is not whether the encounter looked suspicious at the beginning, but when the available facts became strong enough to justify the next legal step. In the comments, identify the moment where the evidence changed most clearly and explain why. A sound body cam analysis keeps suspicion, probable cause, charging, and guilt separate. Because each requires a different level of proof. Thanks for watching.