we're doing a documentary on organized crime oh all right that's City Hall um it looks like a really expensive place where does the money come from to fund it I was given a tip that uh this is the location of the organized crime syndicate in power over this entire Turf is that right the city clerk's office okay just calm down though you okay yeah do you have any other questions sir well let's yeah I do but let's do some breathing exercises because it seems like you're getting a little well we were told that the organized crime unit in control of this entire Turf operates out of this building organized crime works out of City Hall and the building across the street from it that's right also city property that is the tip that we were given okay you okay why did you call a guy with a gun what are your other questions um right now I'm asking why did you wave a guy with a gun over here I was just asking you questions Ben please don't be disorderly so I was asking them if the money that's brought into this building is brought here through threats violence and coercion and you know what they did instead of answer my question they called the guy with a gun ah gotcha you see the irony there okay we were given certain characteristics of organized crime to be on the lookout for organized crime is a structured process rather than random acts of lawlessness organized crime groups are often motivated by profit rather than revenge organized crime groups use corruption to protect their operations and gain influence organized crime groups use threats intimidation and force to protect their operations no deadly weapons gun lockers available hey how's it going okay we're doing a documentary on organized crime okay and we were in the area and we saw this building uh we were told that uh some of the people here if not all of them are affiliated with an organized crime syndicate uh what do you know about that absolutely nothing nothing nothing okay what what did you say this building is then City Hall City Hall yes sir so it's has nothing to do with organized crime no okay wonder if I got a bad tip or are you hiding something I am not um it looks like a really expensive place where does the money come from to fund it if it would be from the city from the city an official city building from the city government where does the city get the money from that is beyond my understanding huh I don't I don't deal with the politics or the funding of the city so it could be organized crime if you don't know where the money comes from that is an unusual Theory but again it's it's not it's not my per okay well that's kind of what I'm here to investigate today is I was told that the place is is completely run on extortion theft uh threats of force and violence against people if they refuse to fund it uh kind of the way the mafia ran back in the day you know how they'd go come around the businesses and be like hey man you know I'll offer you protection uh at a price and you're like he you know what I've actually got my own security and then the mafia leaves and they come back later and throw a brick through the window and say I said I'll offer you protection right mhm uh I was told that this place has kind of run this in a very similar way I disagree with that okay not true I disagree with that I personally mean oh okay so how is the money collected I am a security officer of the city I do not deal with the politics or the funding of the city okay so you don't know how the money is collected no but it's definitely not collected through coercion threats of force or violence or anything I never witnessed or seen that no never witnessed seen it yeah okay um how is the money collected then is it probably taxes taxes would be my theory okay taxes how does taxes work I do not understand that that is beyond my purview I am a security officer at the city okay I I do my job and I do not deal with the politics or the funding of the city just I I find it bizarre that you're certain that this place is not funded through threats for I said I have never witnessed that oh okay but you're not sure how it's funded other than taxes is my theory yes sir that's your theory okay and taxes are collected they're optional right I do not know don't know no okay I guess maybe that's what I'll have to figure out then is whether or not taxes are optional and what would happen to somebody if they didn't pay taxes um you know you know who you might send me to to get the answers to those questions I don't know okay do you know who I might be able to talk to in this building to find out how the money gets to this building to pay your paycheck have that staff our licensing and tax department is across the street in another building licensing and tax department and do you know the address of that place no but it's directly across the street and the city clerk's not here either the city clerk may be here that would be in their office you have to go there and ask in this one okay cuz I'm wondering I'm thinking I mean you're security right so I mean I don't I don't mean to like press you for stuff I imagine that your job is just to hurt people if they ask you to hurt them not necessarily know what's going on so I I respect that you don't really know um maybe I should ask the city clerk then if you like questions okay um what was your name so I can jot down for my supervisor who I spoke to Mark yeah yep do you have a last name I do can I get it no I can give you my badge number okay Bravo 1766 B 1766 there's our policy not to share our name at this time it's policy yes huh interesting and I noticed you have a firearm on you yes sir what are you carrying there what type of firearm is that it's a Glock it's a GLOCK GLOCK what I feel uncomfortable sharing that information at this time you can make a Freedom of Information uh request is it Department issued yes it is from the police department yes sir but you have no law enforcement credentials not in this position no sir um can anybody else carry a firearm in here no okay so we do have different rules for different people yes okay excellent and if someone did try to carry a if a regular person who uh isn't authorized by uh the king or or whoever might be in charge were to uh try to carry a tool of self-defense in here what would you do we would ask them to place it outside in the lock box what if they what if they didn't they would be asked to leave what if they didn't they would be trespassed what if they didn't leave still that would be up to the police perm to escalate that to whatever level it needs to be to include arrest what if they refuse to be arrested that is beyond my purview what if they chose to defend themselves that is beyond my purview okay interesting well would you personally be willing to escalate to killing somebody over their right to self-defense I do not feel comfortable discussing that the C that yes or no I just answered you you might want to discuss it with yourself at least maybe when you go home tonight your lack of responsiveness and the way you're staring at me makes me feel as if you're either upset uncom aable or otherwise uny thought you're free of your thoughts okay are you upset with the things that I've said no okay you just are nonresponsive are you deep in thought perhaps okay good we we all have our thoughts good that's good that's I mean my comments weren't intended to provoke thoughts so I'm glad I'm glad it worked I do appreciate you thinking about it then Mark all right I'll go find out where the money comes from Mark okay thank you good luck hi hey how you doing good how are you good I go by Grande Johnson I'm here to uh conducting an investigation uh for a documentary we're doing on organized crime okay I was given a tip that uh this is the location of the organized crime syndicate in power over this entire Turf is that right I don't I I apologize sir I don't understand what you're saying um I was told that that this is an organized crime unit that operates out of here is that right or no uh are you talking about the police department I'm talking about uh is this the city this is City Hall yes okay yeah I was told that it's an organized crime unit and that it's funded off of uh extortion theft and funds taken through uh coercion Force violence or threats of violence i s yes sir I don't I've never heard that before this is the we yes this is city clerk's office so I I really can't help you I I really don't know what you're talking about I apologize Okay so clerk's office mhm all right um what what's your name so I can tell my boss who I spoke with my name is Ben Lang Ben Lang Lang L NE L NE MH okay and you don't know anything about organized crime operating out of this I do not sir no okay you've I'm sure you've heard of organized crime before you ever seen a mob movie or Mafia movie or I have sir but there is no organized crime operating out here that I know of okay so all the funds that come into this place are given voluntarily by people who choose to fund it sir this is the city we we are a government agency government agency okay govern government agency okay and all the funds that come in are are given voluntarily sir if you need to speak about how the city is funded I would recommend you speak to the City Treasurer's Office or the city manager office okay okay City Treasurer or city manager are they in this building they are not where are they at they're they're across the street okay I I think that's what the security was telling me too is that also where the licensing and tax department is I I believe so sir I'm not 100% sure okay if I were to go over there and find out that this entire place was funded from money that was taken through coercion threats force or violence uh how would you feel about taking a paycheck from these people sir I yeah I can't answer that because that's a hypothetical question you're asking me so I'm not going to answer that okay okay do you have any other questions yeah uh what's your salary Ben you you can look that up so you can make a public rec request for my salary okay very suspicious how you're not you're just you're asking me questions I've already told you who you need to talk to Cal down the city clerk's office okay just calm down though you okay yeah do you have any other questions sir well let's yeah I do but let's do some breathing exercises because it seems like you're getting a little it's so B can you what are your other questions sir Ben you're getting a little fired up I need you to not be disorderly what are your other questions sir Ben I need you to not be disorderly you okay what are your other questions you okay why did you call a guy with a gun what are your other questions um right now I'm asking why did you wave a guy with a gun over here I was just asking you questions Ben please don't be disorderly if you don't have any City business you can be ask to please leave Mark I do have City business Ben why did you call a guy with a gun over here when I asked you questions because sir you I told you I don't have any more answers for you and you continue to ask me questions see when I ask you you understand I'm looking trying to find out about organized crime wait wait wait just not know anything about organized crimes Ben calm down I need you to calm down Ben don't get disorderly okay so I ask you if this place is funded by threats coion and violence and your answer is to call a guy with a and your answer is to call a guy with a gun incorrect sir you asked me a hypothetical I explained I'm not answering hypothetical questions I asked if it's funded by threats coion and violence and you waved a guy with a gun over here to try to intimidate me no sir you asked me if I you asked me a hypothetical question and I said I would not answer hypothetical questions Ben if you don't want to cooperate with the investigation you are free to go thank you sir I appreciate that you're welcome Ben I'm going to jot down that you were uncooperative combative and that you called people with guns I know when he waved you over there it looked like I mean we talked about you have a firearm on you right and and I just found it really suspicious that I asked him whether the funding for this building was was through threats coion and violence and his immediate response was to wave a guy with a gun over does that make sense I'm security officer right I'm not a guy with a gun you are a guy with a gun you are a guy with a gun in a building where I've been told that I am not allowed to have the equal right to self defense you see how it's starting to look like this may actually be an organized crime syndicate operating on threats coercion and violence against innocent people I came in you know heard the accusations but making no no conclusions but it is beginning to look like I hit the the nail right on the head here don't you think Mark I think people are allowed to have their own thoughts okay all right Mark well just so you know we're no threat we're only asking questions and documenting the situation does that make sense Mark I'm just trying to be open and clear with you so all right so that there's no misunderstandings or you you don't think that I would act the way that you guys act and threaten violence or anything like that upon anyone does that make sense sure I would never do such a thing I would never act like you guys sure I feel like I might be targeted at this point simply for asking if this place is funded by force threats coercion and violence should I sleep with one eye open from now on you think I think you're allowed to have your own thoughts sir okay there's the police a I think the police just showed up for us hello hey man how are you doing good how are you good guys up to here uh do an investigation you want to come over here it's the noise from the water over here is too much investigation huh yeah what well we we can talk about it over here I just don't like the background noise okay so what are we doing well did they call you for us yeah I thought so yeah yeah um can I get your your name real quick Lieutenant Reynolds LT Reynolds y like Ryan Reynolds spelled the same way I mean sort of yeah the last name is spelled the same way y r e y yep that's how you spell it okay yep and you guys don't give last names oh I'm sorry you know what that is your last name is how about your first name 1290 is my badge number 1290 how about uh your first name no okay so what's going on um well I didn't call you but I do think it's interesting that they did okay well they called because they said that you were causing a disturbance inside oh really okay so what's is there a a statute that says that filing a false police report is a crime of course there is okay what's that do you know what it is offand no I don't it's it's ARS 13 uh to 13 okay who called then City security okay SE security you want to go ahead and charge him then for you tell me what you're doing that might have caused him to call us the irony I wasn't here right the irony of what I'm you don't have to tell me anything which is totally your right in which case I'll just leave I I kind of want to tell you because the irony of the fact that he called you is just insane okay so we're doing a documentary on organized crime oh all right that's City Hall well we were told that by somebody that uh there are people within this building whether it is the city itself or Representatives or whatever don't know uh that the the organized crime unit in control of this entire Turf operates out of this building and that building over there that organized crime works out of City Hall and the building across the street from it that's right also city property yep that is the tip that we were given okay uh so the mafia will come in and they'll offer protection right they'll come to a business and say hey man um you know 20% and uh we'll we'll take care of you somebody tries to rob you we'll take care of them you know we'll offer you protection yeah right and the owner says yeah you know what I've actually got my own security not interested in your protection so the mafia leaves they come back and throw a brick through the window right come back and say oh shoot see what happened they say all right man I said I'll offer you protection right okay you heard of that model right sure um and at that point it's like okay I get it the protection I need is from you and if I don't pay you I'm I'm going to need protection right so I was trying to find out from them I was asking them how the city is funded how the city is funded yeah taxpayer dollars obviously okay they wouldn't tell me that so it's taxpayer dollars taxes just like every other city right okay funded through taxes and those are voluntary right taxes yeah I don't know not going to get into the discussion of the Constitution I don't know how it's uh I think the Constitution determines how taxes are paid and who pays them and so forth but are they voluntary I don't know I pay my taxes you probably pay yours do we like it not necessarily but we do it right because we're good citizens okay all right so maybe not voluntary then I don't know man I'm not have you ever thought about what would happen if you didn't what what if you said you know what I'm here because they called about a disturbance you guys are now outside which is fantastic you want to talk about anything else how I can help you with something I'm happy to do that but I'm not going to get into discussion about taxes or the mafia which I don't know anything about to be honest with you yeah I know if if you did you seem like a good guy so if you did and you and and you realized holy smokes I'm literally working for blood money that's been taken from people through threats violence and coercion I would imagine you'd be the type of guy who would say you know what man I'm out doesn't mean you wouldn't be law law enforcement still it doesn't mean you wouldn't be a guy who protects people's life liberty and property but you would probably say holy smokes man I'm the bad guy doesn't sound right I became the mafia so I was asking them if the money that's brought into this building is brought here through threats violence and coercion and you know what they did instead of answering my question they called a guy with a gun ah gotcha you see the irony there okay you see that now we were super calm you'll see the video posted later I mean they he was getting real escalated uh Ben Lane and we told him I tried to teach him some deep breathing exercises um but he was I mean you could see and he needed it i' I've been there I'm sure you have too sometimes you know people say or do something but we weren't trying to get him upset we just wanted to know where the money came from and and he says no it's not threats and violence and then he called you okay and I think first he called in the security guard it looked like an an attempt to intimidate us cuz I don't have a gun did he ask you to leave point no and I wouldn't have to leave anyways I was there conducting official business so and even if he did ask me to leave but I told him you're not detained you know you can if you don't want to cooperate with the investigation clearly that's suspicious right but not illegal sure so uh at that point he left but I guess they called you anyways and But the irony of me saying hey are you operating here under threats violence and coercion and then multiple people with guns get called into a building where the sign says that I'm not allowed to carry a gun and have and be able to defend myself right so I've been disarmed I'm no longer able to defend myself and when I ask questions about threats violence and coercion used against people like me they call people that looks like threats violence and coercion to be used against me okay think about it man do you work for the mafia no I don't I'm just curious your affiliation with your investigation are you like a independent investigator or I work for BA for B uh Bao uh but yeah I work for BA you're like a and he's with lorata I don't know what that is lorata I don't know what it is either people somebody told me it's Spanish for the rat and so basically the what I gather is he just pays my paycheck so I don't ask a whole lot of questions I just do as I'm told I see um but lorata I'm told is Spanish for the rat so I guess I'm a snitch I'm I'm just going around Gathering information on violent Thugs who potentially you know rule other people and take their life liberty and property through unjust threats force and coercion and then I snitch to Bow about it okay so I'm going to snitch about Ben Lane okay calling you and I will let him know though that um Lieutenant Reynolds refused to use violence or coercion or or were even threatening in any way whatsoever sounds good but that was the intent of Ben Lan and the security guard was I think that's why they called you I do