I wish somebody would come dust you right in the mouth and I would laugh. >> That's okay. >> Well, good. They do too. >> Good. >> You think you think he should he somebody should violently attack him for his words? >> I really do. >> What do you think of the signs? >> They need whipped with their booties holding that up out there. >> You think they should be uh physically attacked? >> Yeah. >> So, there's this guy Otto the watchdog. He [music] goes around to different cities in Texas holding signs. Some of them are just goofy. Some of them have [music] cuss words on them. Most of them criticize government. There's usually something more behind what [music] he's doing. But the signs grab your attention and then you walk up and ask. >> I want to know what you're doing and why you're doing it. I'm curious. I'm I'm protesting the the police. A few years ago, I was I came back from a a cross country camping trip with my children. >> But we'll get into the why in another video. Today I want to talk about the people in the United States of America that [music] believe that if you have a message that they don't agree with that you should be violently attacked. [music] A few weeks ago I followed Otto around in multiple different towns in Texas while he held up his signs. And I went around interviewing random people asking them what they thought of it. Out of four cities and [music] towns that we went to, there was only one where multiple people thought that Otto should be violently attacked [music] for his verbal and written message. Grand Seline, Texas. These are real Americans and their real raw reactions to their government being criticized with words that they don't approve of. First, there was this woman who was driving by, saw Otto's sign, and decided she should pull over and let Otto know that somebody should bust him in the mouth. Me being the piece of [ __ ] that I am, egged her on like that. That's illegal, you dumb. >> It's illegal, you dumb. You get that side there, right? >> That is too. >> Okay, sure. >> Okay, sure. I'll put that side away and hold this. >> We needed better audio, so I picked up a microphone and ran up to be on her side. >> What about this one? >> Who are you? >> Oh, I'm I'm the best citizen that has ever existed. Thank you. >> What? >> I'm the best citizen that's ever existed. You need to be a girl for you. >> Oh, well, if I promise you if I see the if I see the kids >> little kids get the sign down. >> No, sure. I'll put the sign down. >> That's ridiculous. >> I'll put the sign down. >> That's ridiculous. >> I know. I said he's an idiot. I have a sign that says he's a he is a idiot. >> I wish somebody would come bust you right in the mouth and I would laugh. >> That's okay. Congratulations to kids. >> Well, good. They do too. >> Good. >> You think I agree. You think he should he somebody should violently attack him for his words? >> I really do. >> Yeah. We should uh That's what America's built on, right? Violently attacking people for their words, right? >> I don't want I don't want to violently attack him. >> I just want him to stop. >> Or you want somebody else? >> My grandchildren are driving by seeing that. >> Yeah. >> And they're wanting to know what's up. And you know what? I worked nine years for the city of Graneline to build this. >> Oh, really? >> Makes me very mad. Can't you move to a different location? >> What is this? It's a building built from salt in the salt mine. >> Yeah, I told him to move. >> I told him I said he's an idiot. >> He is an idiot. >> He is an idiot. >> A complete idiot. >> But you think that somebody >> I hope somebody does come up and say something to him though. >> You think somebody should come up and bust him in the face? >> Well, I'm not going to say that cuz I'd be recorded to say it. But I wish somebody would come bust you right in the mouth and I would laugh. I wish that I could. >> You wish you could? What do you think about Charlie Kirk? What do I think about him? >> Yeah, >> I I thought he did good. >> Yeah. Are you glad somebody busted him in the neck for his words? >> No. >> No. >> Absolutely. >> But you want this guy busted in the face for his words, right? >> I didn't say I wish somebody would come bust you right in the mouth and I would laugh. >> What the mayor doing? >> But do you think Charlie Kirk deserve to get busted in the neck? >> No. >> For his words. But he deserves >> somebody. You just said that you hope somebody comes and bust this guy in the face for his words. >> Ask me what I thought about it. And you you said multiple times could >> you said mult I said I wish that I could but I'm a woman. He's an idiot. He's offending our children. >> Do you have any idea how many cameras recorded you coming up here and saying that you should he should be busted in the face? >> Hey, what about you? What about what you just said? >> What? >> The same thing. >> What? >> I'm not saying it. >> I love the mayor so much. She can do anything she wants to do and if you don't like it, you should do it. You know what I mean? He's an He is a idiot. He's a idiot. >> No, I don't support it. >> But you are the one that said that he should be busted. I just said he is a idiot. >> I'm saying that I'm surprised someone hasn't done it. >> You think he should he somebody should violently attack him for his words? >> I really do. >> No, you specifically said >> a gun he says right now. >> You specifically said you hope somebody goes up and bust him in his face for that. I wish somebody would come dust you right in the mouth and I would laugh. There should be a law that could make him leave and not do that. >> So So me and you shouldn't be able to physically move him or bust him in the face, but we should be able to call somebody else to physically move him. >> I think that someone in the law should >> What is the law? >> What is the law? >> Yeah. >> Who is in charge of of taking people like him off the streets when they do idiotic things like that? >> Okay. Then a local citizen who knew her came up and tried to explain free speech to her. >> How are you? This we're we're just getting an interview with this lady. She thinks this guy should be busted in the face. >> Do you think? >> No, I think I'm fine with what they do. >> They're terrible. What about our kids? >> We're losing all of our person all of our freedoms a little bit at a time. You give them that much, they're going to take that much. >> If the mayor I mean I mean can't they just reward it and not have that on there? >> That's the point. I mean, our kids and grandkids are wondering what those words are doing on the side. >> I assure you, your kids and grandkids are saying every day. By about the age of 10 to 12, your kids and grandkids as soon as you get out of church are what we have to do is use that as an opportunity to explain to them what our forefathers gave us. And and they're all these all these officials are stripping this [ __ ] away a little at a time. >> I don't know anything about it. I really don't. I might have a father here in town with my son, but I really don't keep up with their politics and all their stupid stuff. >> It's not It's not even about their politics as as much as it is the whole damn world. >> Well, they moved down. >> They do this everywhere. >> They do it at the house. >> They do this everywhere. They're doing it here right now because of what's going on with the mayor. >> I don't know what's going on. >> We can talk about it. I I can kind of explain to you what's going on. The mayor in every [ __ ] town is doing it wrong. [laughter] >> I wouldn't go out for mayor. I wouldn't work for I wouldn't do it either. I spent nine years doing it and I experience making money. >> I I understand your point of the verbiage and everything, but like I said, >> use it as a teaching tool to your grandkids because listen, >> listen. They're not there's a reason they're not teaching civics in school anymore. They want us [ __ ] dumbed down as they can get us. Period. The dumber we are, the easier it is to overtake all of us. And I I'll >> very offensive indeed. I I >> And I get it. >> I I get I get what you're saying, >> but I'll send you some links of James Otto, [screaming] >> Sean. There's there are so many of them. And at first when I first started watching these several years ago, I was like, man, it's kind of But the more that I've dug into it and researched it, they these guys have taught me, these guys have taught me stuff that the school should have taught us. >> Was Charlie Park wrong? >> Huh? >> Was Charlie Park wrong? Is that what you were saying? >> No, not at all. It was just that you said you you did say, look, we don't have to go back to it. But what you said is that he should be violently attacked for his words. And I don't think >> you asked me what I thought. I said I wish somebody would come bust you right in the mouth and I would pass. >> That's okay. I have a license to carry it. >> Well, good. They do too. >> Good. >> You think I agree. You think he should he somebody should violently attack him for his words? >> I really do. You asked me what I thought. I said I wish I could. >> I don't I don't need to. >> Look, I don't It's not a It's neither here nor there. No, I don't think that anybody should be violently attacked for their words. >> I don't think anybody should be >> like those words out on the street like that. Just, you know, >> well, a lot of people didn't like Charlie Kirk's words and all that, too. >> You realize a lot of people didn't like Charlie Kirk's words, right? A lot of people. >> Yeah. >> And that was the whole point. It was like, hey, you got a message that I don't agree with. What you're I'm going to bust you in the face. I'm going to in the neck, you know. >> No, I just wish they changed the wording. Well, if you change the wording, the point would not get across. >> But it but again, it's the very first of the Bill of Rights is freedom of speech. And if you take that away, what's next? I mean, >> what's what's next? >> I was really hoping that it wouldn't be here at the soap malace. I I did a lot of work here in the years in the '90s. >> Yeah. You know, >> dumb [ __ ] Run people over. Pay attention to where you're going. >> He's an idiot. He really is. >> He is a He is a idiot. He is like to deal with it. People are violent though when they see those words on signs. >> People are what? >> They get violent when they say the words. >> Yeah. People got violent when they heard Charlie Kirk's words, too. Right. >> So, does that mean we should stop expressing our opinions? Can they just change corners and move over there and get off the salt house corners? >> Well, it's they're they're on the public easement, though. Have you ever flipped anybody off before, though? >> Not in a long time. >> Have you ever cussed anybody? >> Oh, yeah. >> Do you Do you cuss yourself? Not at all. >> Well, no. I can't say that cuz I think y'all made him mad enough when I first You think what? >> I think you made it bad enough when I first pulled up. I probably said something. >> So, she does admit that she uses the same words that Otto is using right now, but it's never her fault. She only does it when other people make her do it. Well done, Grandma. You're about 75 years old and still haven't learned to take responsibility for your own words and actions. This old lady was so worried about little kids driving by and getting triggered, but no little kids were triggered. Only she was. So, we asked this little girl what she thinks grandma should do about Otto's offensive signs. >> What about yourself? Why about yourself? You drive. [laughter] What about yourself? Go drive. >> What do you think of the signs? >> They need whipped with their booties holding that up out there. >> What's that? I said they need their booties whipped. >> Who do you think should whip them? >> I could if I if they let me. >> Yeah. You think they should be uh physically attacked? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They're attacking the police and the bear. >> Oh my gosh. >> They What does the sign say? >> F the mayor and the polices and all that there. That's very disrespectful. >> Very dis So you think that they should be violently attacked? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> People drive by here with their kids in the car and they see them signs. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not very It's very disrespectful. >> How much do you think that they should be violently attacked? Like should they just be punched in the face or do you think they should be like tripped or like pushed down or >> be locked up? >> Locked up. Like in a cage. >> In jail. In cage. Wherever. >> In a cage or a jail? >> Yeah. >> Should they be shot? >> No. >> No. Okay. So, just caging? >> Yeah. >> How long should they be caged for? >> 30 days. >> 30 days for >> And what specifically for? for like the the words for like criticizing the mayor, the police. >> Yeah. And if when people drives by and they disrespect it, they say the f word to them and everything. >> Oh, they're saying the f word to other people, too. So, they should be put in jail for 30 days for saying the f-word to people >> and for criticizing the mayor. >> Yeah. >> And for criticizing the police. Yeah. >> They should be in jail for >> They should go to the meeting. >> What should they do at the meeting? >> To give what they want done. You know >> what do you mean? explain why stuff's not being done in this town. >> Oh, okay. So, they should go to the meeting instead of coming out here and saying the words that they're saying. >> Okay. So, there's a way to do it is what you're saying? >> Yeah. >> And uh so they should go to the Do you think they should vote? >> Yep. >> Yeah. Go to the meeting and vote. >> Yeah. >> So, if he's offended that you like cops, should he be able to put you in jail for 30 days? >> No. >> Why not? >> Because >> because why? I ain't out there doing that kind of stuff right there. >> What kind of stuff? >> Sign holding up them signs. >> Okay. So, as long as you keep your opinion secret, you should be able to stay free. >> But if you express your opinion for others to hear and see, you should go to jail for 30 days. >> Yeah. Or either >> Were you born in North Korea? >> No. >> No. >> Okay. In West Dallas. >> West Dallas. >> Okay. >> Without a birth certificate. >> All right. So, West Dallas is it seems is pretty similar mindset to North Korea though, right? >> I guess. Kim Jong-un is a good friend of mine. I was an adviser of his for uh 15 years and I don't like his opinion either. I think he needs to go to jail. But I also don't like police. So uh I think you guys both need to be in a cage. >> I'm going out and do community service before I go into jail. >> Community service? Yeah. >> So you would do community service instead of jail? Do you think that he should be given the option to do community service instead of jail? Yeah. >> Could he have random people come into this parking lot, wash their car, and call that community service? Talking to the elderly would be I mean there's a lot of elderly people that don't have company. >> So giving people company that don't have company. >> Yes. >> Would be a good community service. There's actually probably a lot of single men around here that don't give Do you think that that could be considered a good community service? Would you think that should be allowed? How many do you think it should take to pay off 30 days in jail? >> Lord, I don't know. >> Maybe two. So [clears throat] you say two blocks to pay off 30 days in jail would be appropriate. So we got one lady who thinks that he should be busted in the mouth. >> I wish somebody would come bust you right in the mouth. >> And another lady who thinks he should either be violently attacked, taken to jail for 30 days, or have to suck two dicks. So you say two to pay off 30 days in jail would be appropriate. What do you think of their signs? >> I I don't know bad people that they would I don't know bad. I mean there is plenty of grand slate bad cops. They're crooked, but I just wouldn't think that they would advertise all that. >> Yeah, >> they might get in trouble. >> Okay. >> Yeah, there was cops that they put signs down when those cops faster. >> Really? >> Oh, yeah. Are you laughing? >> Hopefully, they know more than I do. >> Are you laughing a little bit though? Are you a little amused? >> Yeah, because some of them did. >> In Granelene, there were also a number of people who were in such support of Otto that they came out and actually held his signs with him. >> Hey, what's up? >> Seen you somewhere. >> Uh, maybe in jail. Have you ever been in jail before? several times. >> We might have shared a cell together. >> Where? >> Uh do you remember being a bottom? >> Yeah, I've seen I'm from Grants Lane. I hate this place. >> Yeah. >> He asked me if I've been a jail party town here. >> Really? >> Yeah. For what? >> Everything over everything. >> Like what? Meth. >> Oh. >> And one guy that made his own sign that said he is a idiot to hold next to anybody who had cuss words on their signs. When that guy got too tired and had to go sit down, I offered to hold his sign for him, which is how I ended up with that one. Can you tell us what you think about their signs? Can I walk with you? Is that okay? >> Cuss word is inappropriate for our children in this community. >> Okay. The cuss words are inappropriate. >> They can say what they want to. >> That offends me. >> The my children my grandkids and my cousin's kids. >> Okay. Just the cuss words or the message itself. >> Say what? The c got to stop. >> Okay. >> So, it's not about the criticism of the mayor it looks like or the cops. It's the cuss words. Okay. I appreciate it, man. What is uh what does your sign say? Uh, [ __ ] bad cops. >> Why? >> Because they shouldn't even be employed. >> Why? >> If you are a bad cop and more than likely you're breaking the law, you should be prosecuted and arrested >> in jail. >> And in jail, >> okay? >> And a good cop would see a bad cop breaking the law and arrested a bad cop. >> A good cop would see a bad cop and arrest a bad cop. >> Okay. >> But I don't see that that often. Almost never. >> Okay. What do you What do you think of that? This is a microphone. And that's why >> my opinion is his opinion is his opinion. >> Okay. >> And that don't bother me. But the cussing has got to stop. >> Okay. >> That's inappropriate for our children. >> Unity. >> Period. >> So you might agree with screw bad cops maybe? >> No, I don't agree with that. >> Uh what? >> My opinion don't matter here. My opinion is the cuss words. >> So you don't have any opinion one way or another about bad cops? >> I want this cuss words gone. >> Okay. Cuss word's gone, but bad cops can stay. They can say what they want to, >> but no. Do you have an opinion about bad cops or no? >> I'm not form of an opinion on that. >> No, no opinion on bad cops, but definitely opinions on words. >> All right, cool. What do you think should happen to people who come out here with these bad words and and let kids see them? >> Do you think we should put them in jail? Do you think they should do community service? >> Whatever the judge says. >> Whatever the judge says. Well, in the 1970s, the Supreme Court judges ruled that offensive speech is protected speech. And the whole point of protecting speech is to protect offensive speech. It wasn't just about trying to protect popular speech. No one's going to try to silence popular speech. More importantly, the First Amendment was about protecting unpopular speech, dissenting speech, speech that most people will disagree with and try to silence. >> What this young man did was to walk through a courthouse corridor in Los Angeles County on his way to a courtroom where he had some business. While walking through that corridor, he was wearing a jacket upon which were inscribed the words the draft. Also were inscribed the words stop war and several peace symbols. When he entered the courtroom, he took off his jacket and held it folded. When he left the courtroom, he was arrested for disturbing the peace, specifically engaging in tumultuous and offensive conduct. Yes. In this respect, it's no different, is it, from what it would be if you'd been picked up out on the street in front of the building or in any other public place. >> Exactly, Mr. Chief Justice. I think that's I think it's important at the outset to point out to the court that there was no violence no component of violence present pointing out as it does as it can do depending upon this upon this court's decision the very vital distinction between dissent which may be offensive to people some people may not like it but nonviolent disscent is terribly important we submit your honors that this court make clear that distinction that descent by its very nature involves the right to be offensive If nonoffensive descent is almost a contradiction in terms because if it's nonoffensive, it means you agree with it. >> Correct. >> What if the judge says it's okay? >> Well, that's his opinion. >> So, if the judge says >> says it's okay for them to hold them cuss words up here, then it is >> he's okay with me holding my idiot sign up, too. >> Okay, fair enough. Seem like a logical man. I appreciate you giving your perspective, man. You seem like a logical man, too, with a bad word on your signing. >> Seems like two pretty decent guys here. with some different opinions. Does anybody think that anybody should be violently attacked for their different opinion? >> No. >> No. No. You No. >> No. >> So, you don't think you should violently attack him? >> That's correct. >> But what if the police said that his sign was wrong? Then should the police be able to get him? >> I don't know the law. >> It's my opinion that whether you violently attack someone yourself or ask the state to do it for you, it's the same. Don't ask the government to do something it wouldn't be okay for you to do. It is the fact that kids can read and they're coming by here and seeing that and that is not something I think children should see. >> We What town is this again? >> This is Grand Solene. >> And you think kids in Grand Solen can read? Is that what you said? >> I know they just [laughter] I know a lot of them. >> Okay. All right. So, your problem is just the cuss words. >> I have no problem with free speech. You have a right to say whatever you want. People have fought for that. Our people have fought for it. [music] However, when it goes overboard, in my opinion, in front of children, people read these signs. I think it's wrong. I think [music] it's wrong. >> What about 12-year-olds seeing? You think that's an issue? >> Yes. >> 12-year-olds seeing that word? [music] Have you ever been to a junior high school before? >> I have. However, >> have you ever heard the way junior high kids talk? >> That's not That doesn't matter to me. >> Okay. Do you think it should be illegal to display cuss words then? >> I don't think it should be illegal. I think people should be intelligent enough to put it in different terms. >> You can say the same message without any curse words. >> Okay. So, it's not that you think the government should step in and stop them. You just think that they should make a decision on their own not to do it. >> Adult decision. Okay. >> Yeah. It's an adult decision.