I just want to make sure everyone here is safe that's my job it's right and there's layers upon layers and so this is all for your safety I'm not answering any more questions about anything are you invoking your right to remain silent at this time sir I'm not answering any questions about anything okay how many more questions um so the really my my biggest concern was uh the safe um how long have you worked for the Department 30 years 30 years okay what's uh what's your current salary it's a GL for you are being quite uncooperative I how am I being uncooperative have you had issues with authority previously no okay is this the first time I'm not answering any questions about anything okay sir what oh everything from your okay um I just needed to ask you a couple of questions actually I don't think we even need to go in okay do you guys accept cash as payment okay how much cash roughly do you guys think you takeen in a day no clue okay is the cash kept in registers or is there a safe on site there's a safe okay and what's the brand of that safe no idea okay do you know if it's time locked no ideaa I have nothing to do with the safe okay what's your name Chester Chester oh no I think my Pen's not going to work you have a pen thanks Chester I can't believe I brought a bad pen okay Chester uh and there is a safe okay um but we don't know the brand no how big would do it to save okay how big would you say it is is it as big as me or you no smaller yeah uh size that someone might be able to just pick up why are you asking all these questions just doing an investigation for what well it's an open investigation so I I can't divulge all the details at this time tell you any more about our security stuff then okay um just okay being uncooperative or no I mean I asked you a question you're telling me you're doing an investigation you won't tell me what it's about I'm not going to give you any information about our security stuff okay unless you're here as a auditor or something legitimate okay like a a state auditor or something something like that okay um all right so Chester we do have a safe on site how often is the safe emptied have nothing to do with it okay don't know no uh is there money left in the building overnight couldn't tell you okay um you were saying though that the safe could be picked up and moved or is it too heavy for that uh if I remember right it's bolted to the floor bolted okay you don't know the brand right M do you know if it's time locked don't know okay we're going to put like I said I really don't deal much much with the safe in fact I don't deal with it at all I know we got one okay great excellent do you have someone come and pick up the cash or do you guys deliver it to the bank I'm not going to answer any more questions about that that that's violating our security protocols okay uh how many security cameras are in here again I'm not going to tell you anything about our security protocols all right so we got one right up here in the top Corner that I can see one security camera in the lobby uh metal detector and this only detects metal right what are you looking for just conducting investigation for who for what um for well my supervisor asked me to come and do it who uh B did did you want to talk to him you want me to get him on I can get him on the phone if you do you want who's he from I mean supervisor for who for what for uh the here I'll go Ahad and I'm not going to talk to it oh okay well I'm I hope you can understand I'm just doing my job well what is your job my job is to conduct an investigation here okay get a hold of the court administrator and they can help you but I'm not answering any more questions about our security stuff okay I just want to make sure everyone here is safe that's my job it's right and there's layers upon layers and so this is all for your safety who are you I'm James that doesn't tell me anything pleasure to meet you who do you work for uh Buddy b who is he he's well I can get him on the phone he's my boss no give me a name of a company or something um I think and how is it you got contracted to come in here and investigate the security well it's not necessarily contracted uh buddy ba just told me hey you know go check it out doesn't mean anything to us I'm just doing my job well I can tell you're frustrated but well I'm not going to answer any more questions about our security protocol so either come up with something new or go somewhere else okay so the metal detector does not it only detects metal I'm not answering any questions about our security protocols do you have problems with authority no okay are you a as long as they have the authority are you a sovereign citizen you guys need to go I'm not answering any more questions I'm about anything I'm just doing my job I'm not answering any more questions about any are you invoking your right to remain silent at this time sir I'm not answering any questions about anything okay I'm going to put uh invoking right to remain silent I don't care what you put down I'm not answering any more questions is there a reason you're being so combative is there a reason you keep doing the same thing when I ask you stuff I'm just doing my job so am I and I'm not yelling at you for it I'm not yelling at you you seem like you're getting a little frustrated you ain't seen nothing what does that mean please leave what does that mean that I ain't seen nothing you haven't seen anything we're just having a conversation I'm not answering any more questions what what happens when you get frustrated then what would I see okay affirmative yeah one subject uncooperative so your question is about um it's about this safe at the court as well as well how much uh cash do you guys think you take in in a day here it depends on the people that walk in and obviously request a number of Records or there's there's a fee for Towing fingerprinting um without looking at an actual list I couldn't tell you okay you think it's in the hundreds maybe the thousands I would say daily on the hund in the hundreds in the hundreds and is that money kept in a safe yes or just a register it's in a cash door and it's picked up daily okay I know our procedures when it's when it's collected here kept in a cash drawer and then it's escorted over onto the town side oh okay so it's just in a cash drawer it's not in a safe over here no so we have hundreds of dollars in cash over here that are in just a drawer daily pick up and drop off excellent hundreds in cash in the register right okay excellent and then daily it's taken over to be deposited yes what what bank is it deposited into I don't know okay is it one of the local ones maybe or probably yeah excellent um something our finance department of the Town side probably answer okay did you go over there and talk to them yet yeah I talked to the courts and they they told me that there's definitely a safe in there okay and we documented all the security cameras and entrances and exits and all that stuff and they said there's a safe in there but they weren't being very Cooperative when I asked them what the brand is um I I needed to know whether or not it's time locked um that's something that's obviously um you know secured information that obviously not knowing the organization you're with um you know we don't want to reveal how we secure valuables like that because obviously there's a security to it a security risk to it you want to make sure it's safe um okay so it's just my job no I understand try to figure all this stuff out I'm protecting the town as well okay we're both just kind of doing our job that's okay um yeah I hope yeah the the the court guy was kind of getting really upset with me and I I was trying to tell him you know I don't want to do this I just you know I was told to okay right so I mean I'm sure there's a lot of things you do you don't want to do right but when you're told to do it well that's pretty open ended question that's that's I I don't know what you're getting at with that what I mean is when we're told to do something you know there's a chain of command right it's not our job toes and procedures regulations right same you know same same yeah and so you know we don't question those who are above us we just how many more questions um so the really my my biggest concern was uh the safe I I really need to know whether or not it's time time locked and whether or not he says it's bolted down um I was wondering if we could just get a view of it that's that's pretty much uh Department internal Department regulations um it's not I'm not going to reveal any particular um devices or safes or if it's Bolten down or if there's a time lock if it's an alarmed I'm not going to provide that information because again okay um all right um how long have you worked for the Department 30 years 30 years okay what's uh what's your current salary what's the glov for it's just uh it's policy okay yeah whenever someone's uncooperative or doesn't tell me what I want to know it's policy to put gloves on I don't know again I don't know I don't question why we do the things we do it's just policy okay and you are being quite uncooperative I how am I being uncooperative well I I I need to know about the safe that's what I was brought here to uh that what I was sent here to ask about and both yourself and the folks over at the court are failing to cooperate okay with that investigation so again it's just policy when people don't cooperate I have policies too put on rubber gloves okay so I'm I'm just again following kind of some of our secur I mean I'm not going to reveal some secured areas where we keep sensitive information or sensitive equipment or monetary things um okay um have you had issues with authority previously no okay is this the first time no this isn't the first time like what do you mean like having issues with authority like when you're asked questions and you are uncooperative and you refuse to answer the way that I I want you to answer I don't think I've been uncooperative I think I've been very Cooperative okay um very open to answer your questions okay um so sure well looking at according to come out here and talk to you and okay so you've never had previous problems with authority is that right no okay do you identify as a sovereign citizen no okay are you familiar with what a sovereign citizen is yes can you explain it to me um I don't have an exact definition I can give you an opinion okay that'd be great um but I'll keep that to myself interesting