you know just so you're aware um certain officers do certain things on on when they they're dispatched out to calls um I just like to ID everybody you know I don't know how these officers are going to be but like that's just how I do my job know I mean I want to be thorough right sure um well I agree I like to ID everybody too you want to you got ID on you I'll just go ahead and take your state ID and I'm I'm not going to show it to you because you haven't showed me here so Tuesday November 3rd at the New Mexico State ethic Commission in Albuquerque New Mexico the New Mexico State ethics commission is an independent state agency that promotes the Integrity of state government through the interpretation enforcement and Improvement of New Mexico's campaign Finance lobbying procurement and governmental conduct laws a bureaucracy created by New Mexico legislators around 2019 with the intent to hold corrupt government accountable sounds good right executive director Jeremy D Ferris Jeremy has an impressive looking resume including a law degree from Harvard Law School a doctorate and master's degree from the University of Oxford where he was a road scholar a Bachelor of Science from Georgia Institute of Technology and Jeremy is a member of the New Mexico Supreme Court's appellate rules committee but recent court documents accuse him of retaliating against citizens for free speech as it relates to Free Press and political discussion in the court documents he's accused of Hobs act violations in federal litigation the Hobs Act is federal law that prohibits robbery extortion and conspiracy to commit these crimes if they affect Interstate or foreign Commerce it was originally passed to fight racketeering and Labor Management disputes but it's now often used in cases involving public corruption the court documents claim that Jeremy Ferris used his authority as the Director of State ethics commission to threaten Mr aaka if he didn't give him $1,000 and lay down his first amendment rights on September 3rd 2024 I went to the state ethics Commission office to ask some questions about how they conduct their business and to file a complaint myself on Mr Jeremy rather than getting the information I needed and filing my complaint I was bullied by Walker Boyd the attorney for the ethics commission it's 215 down this way yeah okay ethics commission oh good don't me um if you don't mind me asking what are you filming for what's that if you don't mind me asking what are you film me for H cuz I have to here we go this one it's not 217 it's thanks hello is Jeremy here uh he's not oh where'd he go I think he's out of town I'm sure where JY is is he okay um Walker yeah hey how you doing yeah what's uh just wanting to check out some things in here and what's your name James are you filming what's that are you filming right now yeah okay uh and who are you with um just myself okay um I just want to do a little bit of an investigation you guys are uh this is an organization that's about openness and transparency in government is that right uh I think I'm going to have to ask you to have a see here real quick and then we'll see if you can turn the offices can you sit right there please uh I me I I'll check out the cards while you no you know uh yeah you can check out the card yeah sure thanks man appreciate it so we got Jeremy is it is it pronounced Ferris Faris how do you pronounce that it's ferris ferris thanks all right so you're just filming the front of the office oh I'm doing an investigation okay um well go ahead and take a card and then I would just ask you to give us a call if you need to schedule appointment all right I well for fairness openness and transparency I kind of wanted to do an impromptu investigation if that's all right yeah our offices are not open this part of the office is not open to the public oh really no how come you need have an appointment an appointment only yeah okay you can come the office you can drop something off you have any business to conduct here yeah can you tell me but you need to leave if you're you don't have any business to conduct I I do have business business so I'd like to know what uh this commission does that's that's not business sir okay um so you don't want to tell me what this commission does I'm happy to answer your questions but I need you to Stage your business well right now my business is that I would like to know what this commission does what the why it ex we've got our website on the there you can visit the website you can give us a call you can send us an email okay can I get a piece of paper and a no I'll write it down here I'm going to do an open records request then while I'm here sure you can't give me a piece of paper though no no okay what's your name what's your name sir what sorry what was your name sir yeah hi there um could you please uh come to Sweet 215 yeah thank you yes yeah I'm gonna have to I'm I think I'm gonna need your assistance in escorting him out escorting M yeah thank you excuse me don't you have enough lawsuits against you already I have a purpose here you tell me I can't do an open records request here in person no why I'm I'm inviting you to please leave the records with us leave it with you yeah I'm WR I'm writing it out please please finish it okay and leave it with us why are you trying to rush me why are you trying to bully me I don't understand are you a state agency funded by taxpayer dollars is that a yes or a no what's your name you got to take one of every card are you Walker Jessica Wendy Sharon Caroline why are you being so rude to me why are you being so rude to me I'd ask you this gentleman is going to be uh leaving a records request with us ask you to face okay you might want to just call the police because I'm not leaving it's a public building public ACC no this we is not this weed is not is not a public for sir yeah no sir they allowed me in and and I've got and I've got secret recordings of other people being allowed in here so I know it is public it's not public sir well then why' you let me in property what's that it's still considered private property these guys as long as it's leased by the government it's open to me it's still private no sir that's not true is it leased by the government I'll tell you what uh I will leave property is leased by the government doesn't mean it's public yeah I know you don't know much that's why you're being sued that's all right so um I'm I'm trying to fill out this request he's making me really nervous though I'm sure that you know that well maybe you keep interrupting you keep interrupting I can legally do it by State law right here in person in writing and you're trying to bully me and why do you keep interrup me it doesn't matter what your policy says it matters what the law says you have a lot of policies some of your policies say that you can extort people right some of your policies threaten people that if they don't give you $1,000 then if they don't give you $1,000 that you'll uh you'll go after them is that right so I'm going to do my open records request please stop trying to bully and intimidate me so I can focus on what I'm doing don't speak again maybe you couldbe don't speak again don't don't don't speak again you don't don't don't speak again yeah what's up boss uh okay so it's what he's saying if he doesn't want you here you might want to call law enforcement then okay you want me to call yes please okay if I'm going to be trespassed under threat of arrest then I'll leave but I need the threat of arrest so that uh I can sue whatever his name is right here so you won't I won't be physically combative or anything like that but if they're going to threaten me that I will be arrest arrested if I don't leave this government building where I'm trying to do an open records request I will leave you don't get the right to complete you don't need to talk anymore you're done this is this is my office not yours it's my office who pays you where do you get your funding from hi my name is at 800 Bradbery The SCP Park Scientific Technology par and I have a guy in here at the state ethics commission doing an open records request doing a records request and the client um or the person who's running the office wants the individual to leave and he's refusing to leave state state Ethics Committee okay yeah yeah yes ma'am uh six foot okay I was say blue eyes blue eyes it's James Freeman tell them it's James Freeman James Freeman uh black shirt uh brown pants it's the guy who sues him all the time okay for kicking them out of public buildings um I'm told by the client of the open record request um that he wants him to leave uh and he's doing a um filing a public records yeah IA I can speak to them I can you to the I wouldn't give him your phone he's not trustworthy he's trying to extort a guy for $1,000 we have indivual office yeah yeah he's reporting James Freeman yeah he's refusing to leave uh my name is Walker boy Walker Boyd yes I asked for that earlier how you doing ma'am I'm good alarm's R they did that to me when I did it uh sure I'll I'll all the security guard now no maybe she should talk to you he's he's he's a bit unruly he's shouting me down but he's I don't I don't think he presents any physical threat don't lie he lied yeah thanks you know this is why we record because people like you lie what do I lie about Sir Unruly what does that mean I said you know a false police report is of misdemeanor right my sentences are you you interrupted me about 20 times which is why I told you to just you're a good dude man I appreciate you I'm James James Freeman good to meet you sorry he's causing you a problem I do I do apologize I just needed to do an open records request and be on my way and I didn't expect this kind of childish behavor see he's still interrupting me man man okay thanks how you doing ma'am see how long'll be no they didn't is it uh Albuquerque Police uh unpd what's that un oh university university yeah oh okay okay Walker boy now I got to do this on a separate piece of paper hey I'm not going to do anything you yeah can you can you make sure he doesn't go past that dep there m thanks oh good did I do something wrong ma'am when they're when I'm when PDS called their security called for somebody to be removed we do come we manage this these this building so all right so am I not allowed to do an open records request here then by state law even though state law says I can't see see how he keep see how he keeps interrupting you see how he is I'm the person who Poli you see how you are you're more than welcome to fill out a public records request okay thank you and and you know that by state law I can you're refusing to leave and and by state law I can sit here and fill out the public records request you have to conduct your business here and then leave I'm this is not a public forum conducting my business here so so there didn't need to be anything it's just a records request and this guy's got his panties all in a you cannot stop interrupting can you your mother did not slap you enough as a child Jesus wait wait wait complete the records request wherever you like sir you have you have to conduct your business here whatever business have this is this a public forum for you to engage in in in whatever speech you like and disrupt our our agency's business you're doing it right now you're stopping our agency from completing the work not stopping you from anything you walk away offes You're preventing the state state commission employees from doing their work well this this uh commission is about to Cease to Exist by New Mexico State Statute because of you is that a threat no this no that's not a threat that I'm telling you that what do you what do you mean you say the state ethics commission is going to to exist just no talking wait for the police to arrive fill out your your report please and just do from there no I you heard him say that this agency is about to Cease to Exist corre by State Statute is what I said by State Statute meaning the lawmakers are about to make you this agency Cease to Exist by law because what you guys are doing is unlawful okay you're breaking the law and I walk in here to do a simple records request and you you've done nothing but bully me interrupt me and act like a child the entire time I've been here yeah what's up you mind sure just write and get out of here sure please complete your business shut up do you understand me please complete your business all right well I've got 30 records requests to do so I'm going to be here until closing I've got 30 you need to finish that and I don't believe you're actually working on your records Su press sir I think you're coming as an excuse to stay when you have no business here all right there's two I just got one left hey guys so for everybody watching live I'm at the New Mexico State um State ethics commission and uh Walker Boyd um I was trying to get some information and do some records request and Walker Boyd here's this card came out here and bullied me um yelled at me was very rude to me and tried to make me leave the office told him I needed to do records request he called security and called the UNM right yeah which what does UNM stand for uh University of New Mexico University of New Mexico police and so he he's called them to ask them to remove me from this state funded office because I'm here trying to do uh three open records for quests name is Walker Boyd um 800 Bradbury Drive Southeast sweet 215 Albuquerque New Mexico phone number 505827 7800 email walker. boystate .m. us he's with his report hey guys how you doing yourself hey I just got to document everybody and then I can get back to what I'm doing just make sure I got uh I've invited this gentleman can finish his public records request he says he's filling one out now but once he's finished with his legitimate business at the state ethics commission uh needs to leave oh okay all right okay oh so I can do the records request now I've asked you to complete your business and then leave you earlier refused to leave and said that you wouldn't leave until the end of done until the end well I told you I told you I've got 30 records I've got 30 records request to do three I'm letting you finish your third and then you're no longer invit well then you know what just happened is actually I'm live now and there's people on the live feed that actually wanted me to do another 60 records requests so you can submit those via email at your we'll uh we'll be here a while folks this is this is our it's official business it is what it is so I don't we leave this office and it's gr business this gentleman uh doesn't have any real business here as you can see okay and let let me let me clarify you're getting what type of Records uh doing some open records requests we're doing an investigation into the Ethics Committee okay and so I'm uh I've got to do some open records requests to get some information I came in here to try to chat with somebody and kind of just get some information verbally this gentleman came out was rude nasty and that's his right you know he he can be rude and nasty and not answer my questions that is okay but that just makes it that every question I have has to be submitted in a separate IA request right and and that I mean I know it makes it a real pain in the butt it sure does um but I mean like like I said you know he's got the right to just be difficult and that's okay unfortunately it makes it so now I have to spend my entire afternoon feeling out ipper requests for questions he could have just answered and that's okay but that's where we're at right now so I'm just going to do my work the isue is that he doesn't get to use our offices to fill out his record request he can come here to submit the records request if he needs to drop off a request that's fine but what he wants to do is stay here all day and disrupt our work and he's been yelling and shouting at us and it's preventing our us from doing our work okay that's what time are you guys in the office till today we're here till 5: okay so this gentleman doesn't want to leave until 5:00 p.m uh and that's the ISS he's going to keep sitting there writing uh writing into his okay legal pad until until 5:00 P PM I guess at which point we'll have to ask him to leave and have someone him oh I won't I won't stay past closing no I would I am and I tried to be reasonable when I came in and that's you know yeah so this is our office and I've asked him to leave after he's finished conducting his business and he's he's not living so as you can see he's pretty rude he thinks it's his office it's our you know and again it's our office it's mine it's yours it's yours it's all the it's the 800 people watching it's our office right and so he couldn't you know again we are where we are I'm going to fill out my IA requests would would you be willing to put the notepad down and speak with him like you were planning on before instead of having to write it down sure because I mean that could kill x amount of minutes you're not willing to so see here's the issue um we're already getting you know we're getting a number of voicemails from folks he's read our phone number on Oh you mean this one 5058 827 7800 disrup our work try to stop I can actually show you my entire investigation when us to shut up this is this is an office that has been released from un by the state ethics commission is for the use of people the state ethics commission and for folks who have business with the state ethics commission I've invited this gentleman to leave his public records request with us and then conclude his business and leave he's refusing to do so by sitting in the chair and filming instead of completing his records request and leaving it with us if you would like when I am done here I will show you what my investigation is and what it's about and I I I can assure you it's very legitimate I don't it's not that I don't think it is it's just the fact that um I we weren't here before all the chaos had happened there was really no chaos it was just that he was told shh cuz he kept interrupting me and he's never been told by anyone anything he bosses people around he's not being used he's not used to being told sh sh when he keeps interrupting people right it's sh sh shut up see so he's not used to he's used to talking to other people like see he keeps interrupting and so that's kind of what happened before you got here is that I would let him talk like he just did and then every time I would try to speak he would be rude and nasty and so I you know I have a three-year-old that sometimes does that and so what do we do you know when you act like a three-year-old we have to shush them and so so anyways we are where we are it's it's not a big deal I know he wants to escalate something and make a big deal out of something but there's nothing sir I'm just trying to ask you to leave I'm asking you to finish your business and there he goes again interrupting you know and and so um I've been here he's been hiding in his office for the last 20 minutes while the security guard's been sitting here with me nothing's even been said you know he's trying to make a deal to try to make it so that he can was the security guard pres when the when I was shushing him and telling him to shut up yes I can go have a chat with him um how how long does a formal request take is it a paper or what's going on here is that he's he's deliberately taking time to finish his request so that he doesn't have to leave okay but you don't have a form or anything have a we and we have an email address that you can also submit requests would you like a form I'd rather do it in person and as per New Mexico state law I can do that and so I know that he can submit a request okay which you can't get a word in without this guy just jumping over the top you he can't use our office as his own personal office to write down his own requests during our whole our whole day and like I said we have to conduct we have to move to other business we have there are other employees here trying to get work done we can't get it done with him here yelling at us and and filming us and and trying to get back behind this desk well did that happen conduct his his quote unquote investigation throughout our office did that happen did I try to go past that desk I had to instruct the security guard to not let you did I try to go past that desk yes you did when when you enter the office that's why you record everything because people like you lie M and that's why everything has to be recorded that's why we walk in when we're just trying to do a simple thing with our government that's why we have to have a camera on cuz you lie about the most Petty ridicul and and the thing is I could go past there there's no sign that says I can't there's no sign that says it's a restricted area but I didn't ordered I try to you know there's a door this door is locked yeah I'll just guys I don't even need to say anything to anyone so I can okay um I know he wants to make it a thing but I can just shut up and sit here quietly cool yeah if if you need time to fill out your request um uh feel free to go ahead and fill out your request we're going to try and figure out kind of a medium so that everything can work out for everybody sure all appreciate I appreciate you guys being chill he really wanted like to make something of this so I appreciate you being chill man definitely definitely is there like a certain deciel that you're allowed to talk at in a public place or is it like by Statute so I think State Statute States as long as it's not disrupting the piece of the general public okay that would be the statute for disorderly conduct okay got it um yeah sounds good so people who have just like outside voices um you know and they they don't have a very good in inside voice is that illegal um I I think the way that the statute reads is if it disrupts the going on of the general public okay so if somebody's pieces Disturbed that's where it kind of meets the threshold okay so sure sure so Walker Walker Boyd Disturbed my piece um yeah so I was trying to talk and Walker Boyd kept talking over me so might want to look into it we look into all factors cool I felt super Disturbed I didn't actually it's just you see how petty and stupid and ridiculous this is right honestly if you guys hadn't showed up I was on a roll I would have had this one done before you guys I thought I was leaving before you got here here yeah I I got the add though so I get distracted when all this stuff is going on around me and I like uh honestly man I fear threat of violence when police show up I kind of assume that when somebody calls the police it's because you guys got like weapons tasers all that stuff and you can force something on me we we definitely want to mitigate this situation make sure that you know everybody everybody has their their their rights and their their say so open records request for the names and S all right so right now that talking about trying to get me on charges of disrupting their business for telling that guy to shut up when he kept interrupting me um I just had a real quick question sure um what amount of time would you say would be uh adequate to fill out these requests well like I said I was uh you know I don't need to sit here all day I I think that I I've got these three to do and like I told you a minute ago I probably would have been done if you guys didn't come in but I started chatting with you guys I got in a roll there and so I thought I was going to make it out of here before you guys even showed up but right um but I think I I think that what's really important to establish too though is that I can be here to conduct my business until 5:00 if I need to and that it's not arbitrarily up to him how many records requests I can or can't do so I would prefer to leave so I don't have to stay here all day if you can let him know if I want to stay here till 5: and fill out records requests I can so what told me was this building is actually leased by another platform but it's appointment only I'm not sure how true that is I really don't care um but the fact that there were other employees in the building when the bickering and the yelling and else is going on I mean we could argue that what we're doing right now is bickering and yelling we're we're argu because because we both have a different point right and we're talking about that's what we were doing when everyone was raising their voice it was and other people you know getting getting for them to be you know not able to concentrate on their work sure I'll send you the video then a little more of like luckily there was video he doesn't have an issue with you filling out your paperwork okay okay until 5 o' if I wanted to until 5 o' I mean that's kind of prent I mean I'd rather just leave but I mean this is what I'm really getting tired of is is dude man this this is what really sucks is that I walk in to do simple work and I'm constantly bullied about oh well you and he knows that I'm not here because I'm in favor of it I want this commission to cease to exist my records requests are to try to make sure that their crimes are exposed and this commission ceases to exist that's why he doesn't want me here and and so you know it's really frustrating then when I come in and he's clearly trying to just bully me when I'm doing things that are within the law within my rights and he's doing the same thing to me that he's doing to other people using unlawful authority to try to bully people and so yeah at that point it does become a thing of you know what I will sit here because I can okay and and so honestly man I'd rather go and I I got so much other stuff to do right I mean especially with the kid at home I could imagine we all got kids here you only got one I got three okay I've got six and I'm not even Catholic um so yeah like I mentioned earlier um like real realistically um if you can just kind of let us know how much time you would to fill up these requests well I'll just do the three how about that and and and then maybe uh you know we'll figure out what to do in the future um because I mean people need to be able to walk in here and conduct their business and it cannot arbitrarily be up to them that oh your business is to expose me for my crimes I'm calling the police get out right that's definitely um so I mean it's like really it's like if I were to come into your Police Department to file a complaint against him and oh that's what you're here for well then get out right it's really the same they know I'm investigating them they know what this is about so all right well let me um I I really do have a hard time focusing now so let me let me Zone in on this and I I say give me five minutes max I think I can have this finished um and you can ask the security guard once he went back in his off he wanted to come out and have a confrontation once he was gone there's nothing but me sitting here silently filling stuff out I'm not going to do anything violent or you know you don't need to worry about me okay all right that's fine corner and what was his phone number again I honestly I haven't even got anyone's information here but okay it's 505827 7800 he was really upset about me giving that out so I mean and and another thing would be um we're probably going to get his information but I mean would you be willing to give us your name and and as As a matter of principle I can't as a matter of princi I can't I'm sorry huh whatp the the fact that I don't have to ID unless I've been suspected of a crime I mean you guys are real decent guys I'll tell you I'm James right and so um you know on a person to person but if if you want my like state ID I will give it to you if you give me yours oh you know yeah and all so all of you will give your state IDs with your home address your date of birth all that on it you know just so you're aware um certain officers do certain things on on when they they're dispatched out to calls um I just like to ID everybody you know I don't know how these officers are going to be but like that's just how I do my job you know I mean I want to be thorough right sure um only reason I agree I like to ID everybody too you want to you got ID on you I'll just go ahe and take your state ID and no I'm not I'm not going to show it to you because you haven't showed me here so oh okay so it's a show me do you want to do that then you just said that show me yours show you I'll show you mine no okay you you said that but I mean I'm not ready to you said your name was James yeah you can come JW Salazar Andrew Salazar good to meet you okay um I I feel like I go by Freeman Freeman that's what I go by that's not a real legal name but you can call me that I also go by Grande Johnson those are a couple Alias couple things that people call me um my badge number is 12:30 I'm I just want to be transparent with you um we'll go ahead and we'll just we'll we'll leave it at that and I feel like that's a fair accommodation you know you have my name and badge number I have your name and we'll just see if we can get all this sure sure yeah I got I got nothing to hide it's just you know we got to we got to stand on those principles of we got to stop just giving government ID whenever they want it so I'm sorry it's nothing personal man yeah then it's then again it's just the UNM policy you know that that we have we're a little different than APD and State Police well you know when it comes to property policy it is a policy it is a policy policies aren't laws right they don't shop laws they don't but n the only caveat that comes along with that is with UNM policy um there also are UNM sanctions and the sanctions are separate of state law um so like if let's say if there was a violation of UNM policy then it could very well be that you may be susceptible to a UNM sanction like a campus white ban um which would have to go through the Dina students and everything else um but I think that we're pretty square right now I think that you know you gave me your your your name um so it's kind of a constitution free zone it's not a constitution free zone um it's just the UNM visitors policy that any person who uh upon request of an officer or uh official of the University while they're on campus on the UNM campus um they are theoretically required to provide that identification but just for being on campus and I'm on campus right now this is UNM campus and we have a state ethics board who is on campus where people should be able to walk in on a daily basis who have nothing to do with UNM right there's several government entities that occupy um you see the conflict there though it it's it's pretty confusing even to me it's pretty confusing I it's not confusing if we always stand on the Constitution though and realize that there are no con tion free zones it doesn't exist so yeah and you know that's why I think that we're on a pretty Square ground right now as it is um I I have your name you have my name and um this like I had mentioned earlier if you want to just work on those I think we're pretty good we can just go from there yeah sounds good to me if anybody wants state ID too I am I am willing to trade anybody State IDs um it'll be shown on the live stream too though just so you know you guys want to yeah go grab that call okay I think it'd be best yeah you can we're all going to start we're all going to get into a bunch of talking and then you know I got my opinions he's got his I think we'll just do your but it looks like we are not going to push anything to where we're taking our opinions to court right well I guess it really doesn't matter then yeah unless it's a big thing you know I'm good hey it's nice to meet you brother hey you too oh hey can I can I grab your name Travis lente Travis lente yeah my B number is 1252 125 to Roman Ros 1257 have I met you before I think we may have was it at the law school or I don't know all right I appreciate you guys well be safe all right yep hey thank you yep well sorry that Nancy boy was such a Karen and had to call you I apologize um if if you feel like anything has been frustrating or difficult up until this point um we don't want to make sure that everybody's rights are preserved and we want to make sure that everybody feels free to do so um within their rights of course um but if you need anything feel free to give me a call okay all right I'm the University New Mexico appreciate it man Salazar all right thank you Mr Salazar I appreciate it