Your investigation is due to what? >> Well, it's it I'll tell you what, it's an open investigation, so I can't really give you too many details at this time. >> What What is the investigation? >> It's an open investigation and we're investigating, so we can't really tell you at this time. >> What is this investigation? >> Well, it's an open investigation still, >> so I can't really give too many details. >> Why are you asking all these questions? >> Just doing an investigation. >> For what? >> Well, it's an open investigation, so I I can't divulge all the details at this time. This is all for your safety. >> Who are you? I'm conducting an investigation here. >> Well, so are we. Okay. >> Can we answer some questions for you? >> Okay. >> What's uh what's your current salary? >> It's a glove store. >> It's just uh it's policy. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Whenever someone's uncooperative or doesn't tell me what I want to know, it's policy to put gloves on. Have you had issues with authority previously? >> No. >> Okay. Is this the first time? >> Hello, sir. >> What's up? >> How you doing? >> I'm all right. How are you? >> Good. Can I help you with something? Nope. Appreciate it. >> What are you doing filming? >> I'm sorry. What did you just ask? >> So, what are you doing filming? >> So, you just asked, "What are you doing?" And then you told me what I'm doing. >> What's your name? >> Officer Chateau. >> Officer What? >> Chateau. >> Shitso. >> Chateau. >> Chateau. Okay. You getting out of here? >> No. >> Okay. >> So, if you need anything, just let me know. Okay. >> Yeah, absolutely, man. Thank you. >> Where do they keep the the uh burner guns? >> I don't know. Ask them. >> The what? Burner guns. >> One time >> like like uh throwaway guns that you can throw on some or plant on somebody. >> There's no such thing. We don't have burner guns. >> Okay. You don't have guns that you like plant on people after you kill them or something? >> I've never had a burner gun plant on somebody. >> Okay. So, you don't have any burner guns in in >> burn? Okay. How about uh any illegal narcotics? >> Everything that we've had that we've confiscated from somebody is in our evidence room and lock up. >> You don't mind if we pat you down? >> Pat me down? Yes. >> For what purpose? >> Check you for illegal narcotics and >> controversies. Okay. No, you're not going to do that. >> Okay. So, you guys don't take any of the evidence out of the evidence room and put it back into circulation. >> Everything is done above the top of the chain. I I don't have anything to do once it goes in the evidence locker. That's it. >> Okay. So, somebody might be reselling that evidence out on the street. >> Resold. What What is your guys purpose? >> I'm just asking questions. >> We're investigating. >> Just investigating for what? What is the investigation? >> It's an open investigation and we're investigating. So, we can't really tell you at this time. We can't We really can't tell you, sir. >> Well, you're asking me questions. I have the right to ask your question. [clears throat] >> Well, you can ask, but we can decline just like you decline. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, uh who is who is high up that would know whether or not the uh drugs are being >> already? Oh, so he'd be the chief. >> Our current chief of police is the top of the chain. >> So, she's in charge of all the burner guns and the nar such thing as burner guns. And you guys are trying to do something. You're trying to hit him up law enforcement. So, for some reason, I'm not sure why. >> What are you talking about him? law enforcement up. >> Okay, I'm done. I'm done speaking. >> Just an investigation. >> It's just an investigation. You don't have to comply, but we we just wanted to talk. >> Yeah. I just need your name, date of birth, and address. >> Pop that magazine out >> here. Come over here so we can see it on video. >> Oh, yeah. >> And And let's go ahead and pull that uh And there's one in the chamber right there. Yep. Let's pop that out. Wow. >> Really? >> Really? You can't tell me who left an unsecured loaded firearm on the front seat of a car. >> About here, too. >> Hey, how you doing today, sir? >> Good. Just go ahead and keep your hands where I can see them, please. >> Um, so the reason I'm stopping you today is we are checking for um you keep your hands out of your pocket. >> So, we got some uncooperative individuals in here. If you could just get them to >> uh got called about you guys. >> So, so if you can just get them to comply with our investigation, that'd be appreciated. They're being very uncooperative. Why don't we step out of the doorway? So we're not blocking any traffic. >> Why don't we step out here? >> Well, why don't we step out of the doorway? You're if anybody wants to. >> No, no, ma'am. I need you to cooperate. Ma'am, >> I need you to cooperate with me as >> Ma'am, I need you to cooperate. >> I need you to cooperate with me. >> Can you step outside? >> I need you to cooperate. >> Can you cooperate with us? >> What's that? >> Can you cooperate with us? >> I'm conducting an investigation here. >> Well, so are we. >> Okay. >> Can we have some questions for you? >> Yes. Yes, please come on in. >> Sure. >> Thank you. Ma'am, please stop being combative. Do as you're told. Are you salary or hourly? >> Um salary, but I mean it's there's a bunch of overtime and whatnot, so it's really hard to say what I do get paid. >> Sure, that's fair enough. Uh what's your base salary? >> I can't think off the top of my head right now. >> Can you give me an estimate? Maybe even within a $10,000 range? >> Maybe. I I really can't know. I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> You don't want to or you just don't know what it is. >> I I don't know. >> All right. Um it's better than being uncooperative, I suppose. Right. I know you started out a little combative. I do appreciate you calming down and uh deescalating um yourself. Uh how long you been with the department? >> Same length. >> 2.5 years. And do you know your salary? >> No. >> Gosh. Uh do either one of you have financial problems? No. >> Okay. I just often find that people that don't know how much money they make also don't know how much money they spend or not very good at budgeting. Um, and the reason I ask is not to pry and be invasive, but I'm sure that you've seen incidents of a police officer stealing from the evidence room, stealing from people's cars when they're searching. And so, the reason the relevance to the question of do you have financial problems as a police officer is can we trust you? Right. >> Gotcha. Yeah. No financial troubles. >> Okay. But you don't even know how much money you make. >> Um, no. I can't give you a number. No. >> Okay. Do you know how much money you spend? >> No. >> Does somebody else handle your finances for you? >> No. >> So, you have no idea how much you make or how much you spend? Nobody handles your finances for you. >> No, it's not something I'm comfortable giving. Um, >> okay. So, it's a lack of cooperation then. It's not a It's not that you don't know. >> Just I mean, I'd have to really go in. I mean, I'm in the middle of doing some stuff right now, finances, so that's >> understood. A lot of us are. It's been a tough few years. >> Yeah. >> Did you want me to put uncooperative then or ignorant of your salary? Ignorant of your salary. Uncooperative in >> That's up to you. Yeah. I don't >> Well, I I want it to be your words. So, are you ignorant of what your salary is? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we'll put K. Gomez is ignorant. And um do I'm sorry, Torres, you didn't know what your salary was either. Did I ask you? >> Yes, he did. He did ask me, but I'm not aware of what it is. >> Okay. And for you, ignorant or uh uncooperative? >> Probably like ignorant with it. >> Ignorant. Great. Okay. So, it's going to be a policy change for Dodto Police Department. So, as you can see right there, it's a Wednesday, July 25th, 2018. This is a memo to Dotto Police Department on a policy change effective immediately. Officers can no longer pull guns on journalists. And then I just need you to sign the receipt of >> Oh, no. That's we do policy. We have a we have a we have a policy. How we change our policy? >> Oh, okay. So, you guys are still going to be pulling guns on journalists or >> Not good. Not with these people around. >> They This is uh court, Zoom court. You're not allowed without permission from the court to record anything. They're all around me. They're in my face. They're saying >> I don't know. They're just trying to antagonize me, I guess. And they're twisting everything around the words and >> that's not a bad thing. No, he he's the public screen. This is not allowed to be here. >> They're not allowed to be on top of me. They're taking chairs. They're coming over here. >> We were on top of him and everything. >> They're allowed to actually I'm just going to go back to my office. >> Okay. >> I mean, or just >> there's any issues in with the court, they can deal with it. >> Hey, man. If you're not going to do your job, I need you to clock out, though. >> I need you to clock out. I don't pay you to just do whatever you want. LT, go home. Go home. You're relieved for the day. LT, you're relieved. You're relieved, LT. Please don't hit anybody. Don't pull your gun out. LT, >> sir, what's your number? >> LT, if you didn't, >> please calm down. Calm down. >> You're You're okay, LT. Well, actually, you're not. You need to clock out cuz you're acting disorderly. >> LT, who who told you to take care of that little being a court officer? Come on, >> LT. >> Thank you for your service, though. >> LT, clock out. >> How are you doing, gentlemen? How's it going? >> Good. How you doing, sir? >> How's it going, >> gentlemen? Make yourself home. It's a public building. >> Thank you, sir. Hey, just clock out, LT. Make sure you clock out. Make sure you clock out. >> Let's be honest. Your safety comes first, right? >> Your safety comes first. So, why don't you get away from the the road for me? Why don't you get up here on the sidewalk and get away from the road because I would hate to see you splattered all over the freeway by a semitr. I don't want to see that happen to you. I want to see you be able to peacefully extort people all day and all night without being splattered all over the road. Once you get over here on the side for your safety, get on the sidewalk. >> Thank you. As long as you're on the sidewalk, that's all I need. >> I appreciate you getting on the sidewalk for your safety. Can you sir, please stop? Thank you. Stop trying to push the limits with me. >> Because of >> If you can get up on the sidewalk for me for your safety, >> you're good right there. You just want to be disobedient. You just got you have problems with authority. You laugh. You think that's funny. >> So, you do have problems with authority, don't you? People say I would never talk or act like this if I didn't have the camera. They're absolutely right. But I really only do it to show the absurdity because a grown man wouldn't tell another grown man to stay on the sidewalk for his safety unless he was wearing a badge. Most people don't realize that a lot of times what the police are doing isn't exercising legitimate authority. It's just being condescending. But somehow people seem to recognize instantly when I do it that it's just rude, disrespectful, condescending, and completely unnecessary. I cannot hear you at all. >> Okay, I I'll walk over to you. >> Thank you. On the sidewalk for your safety. There you go. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, homeboy here's just a little highrung. You guys all tease him though, don't you? >> What's that? >> You guys all tease him, don't you? [laughter] >> They already told me they're going to beat your ass back at the department today. They told me already. He literally just told us he's going to take you back to the department, put some soap in a sock, and just beat you with it. >> Diana Hamburger. Diana, how long have you been employed here? >> Uh, since March of last year. >> March of last year. Interesting. >> When does this investigation? >> Well, it's an open investigation still, >> so I can't really give too many details. And what was your name? >> My name is Anna Cassidy. >> Anna? Anna, what's your position here? My position is community development director. >> And are you salary? >> I'm salary. Yes. >> What's your salary? >> You can get that through the portal. The pay grades all online. Same as the hourly employees. >> Okay. I'm just going to put uncooperative. >> Okay. I wouldn't say that's an accurate description, but >> I'm sorry. What was your salary? >> It's the pay grades are available online. >> Okay. I'll just put uncooperative. And Nathan, what's your position here? >> Who are you with? >> Oh, just me. Just you? >> Yeah. >> Why are you recording if you don't mind me asking? >> Uh just uh an an investigation. >> Investig investigation due to what? >> Uh just I just do an investigation. >> So you know that our facility, our level two right here, houses inmates and we get a lot of people that toss over contraband, drugs, and elicit contraband into our facility. You know that? >> Okay, hold on. Let me write that down. >> So state police is on the way by chance. Do you have your ID on you? >> My ID? >> Yeah. >> No, I just have the clipboard that says investigation, you know. >> What's your name? >> Can we Can we write down? You said what is it? Contraband. >> What is your name, sir? >> Contraband. Is that what you said? >> What is your name? >> Cont. How do you spell that? >> Okay. Well, state police is on the way. >> How do you spell contraband? >> I have no idea. >> Contra. Uh, you said >> what is your investigation in regards to >> You said people throw contraband over the fence. >> Your investigation is due to what? Well, it's I'll tell you what, it's an open investigation, so I can't really give you too many details at this time. I've got a supervisor. You want to talk to my supervisor? >> Yes, I would love to talk to your supervisor. >> Um, do you have a phone on you? >> No, I do not. >> You can call my supervisor if you want. I could give you his number. His name is Buddy Ba. >> Buddy Bow. >> Mhm. >> And who is he with? >> Uh, he's with his his wife. >> Okay. >> That's not what I mean. That's not what I mean. I What company do you work for? >> Well, Buddy Bow just supervises me to just tell me what to do and what not to do. You guys ever smoked? >> We're not allowed to talk to you about that right now. You're not giving me a lot of information. And you're trespassing. So you understand that that is a misdemeanor offense in this state? >> You understand that? >> Oh, no. Trespassing. >> Oh gosh. >> Yeah. And you're not supposed to be filming. >> Oh, shoot. Trespassing and filming. >> Yeah. >> Is that Is it filming a misdemeanor, too? >> Well, we'll let state police let you know that. >> They'll be on the way. Um >> Okay. >> I just want to make sure you're good. >> Yeah. It's just an investigation. He just asked me to come out here and do an investigation. And then those guys were like, "Well, you're trespassing and you can't do that." And I was like, "Oh no, I don't want to get in trouble." And then they were like, "We're going to call the police." I was like, "No, don't." >> And then they did. Yeah. They were scary. >> I mean, it is a prison. >> Yeah. I thought they kept all the bad guys on the inside though, so I'd be safe out here. But sure enough, >> you're not wrong, man. >> I just want to make sure everyone here is safe. >> That's my job. >> It's right. And there's layers upon layers. And so this is all for your safety. >> I'm not answering any more questions about anything. >> Are you invoking your right to remain silent at this time, sir? >> I'm not answering any questions about anything. Why are you asking all these questions? >> Just doing an investigation >> for what? >> Well, it's an open investigation, so I I can't divulge all the details at this time. >> I don't tell you any more about our security stuff then. >> Okay. Being uncooperative or >> No, I mean, I ask you a question. You're telling me you're doing an investigation. You won't tell me what it's about. I'm not going to give you any information about our security stuff. >> One security camera in the lobby. Uh, metal detector. And this only detects metal, right? >> What are you looking for? >> I'm just conducting an investigation. I hope you can understand. I'm just doing my job. >> Well, what is your job? >> My job is to conduct an investigation here. >> Okay. I'm not answering any more questions about our security stuff. >> Okay. I just want to make sure everyone here is safe. That's my job. >> It's right. And there's layers upon layers. And so this is all for your safety. >> Who are you? >> I'm James. >> That doesn't tell me anything. >> Pleasure to meet you. I'm just doing my job. >> Well, >> I can tell you're frustrated, but do you have problems with authority? >> Nope. I'm not answering any more questions about anything. >> Are you invoking your right to remain silent at this time, sir? >> I'm not answering any questions about anything. >> Is there a reason you're being so combative? Is there a reason you keep doing the same thing when I ask you stuff? >> I'm just doing my job. >> So am I. >> And I'm not yelling at you for it. >> I'm not yelling at you. >> You seem like you're getting a little frustrated. >> You ain't seen nothing. >> What does that mean? >> Please leave. >> What does that mean? That I ain't seen nothing. >> You haven't seen anything. We're just having a conversation. I'm not answering any more questions. >> What What happens when you get frustrated then? What would I see? Affirmative. Yeah. One subject uncooperative. How much uh cash do you guys think you take in in a day here? It depends on the people that walk in. >> You think it's in the hundreds, maybe the thousands? >> I would say daily and in the hundreds. >> In the hundreds. And is that money kept in a safe? >> Yes. >> Or just a register? >> It's in a cash drawer and it's picked up daily. >> Okay. >> By the procedures when it's when it's collected here, kept in a cash drawer, and then it's escorted over onto the town center. >> Oh, okay. So, it's just in a cash drawer. It's not in a safe over here. >> No. >> So, we have hundreds of dollars in cash over here that are in just a drawer. Okay, great. >> Daily pickup and drop off. >> Excellent. Hundreds in cash in the register, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Excellent. And then daily it's taken over to be deposited. >> Yes. >> What What bank is it deposited into? >> Don't know. >> Okay. Is it one of the local ones? Maybe. Or >> probably. >> Excellent. It's just my job. >> No, I understand. I understand. >> Try to figure all this stuff out. >> I'm protecting the town as well. >> Okay. We're both just kind of doing our job. That's >> okay. you know, I don't want to do this. I just, you know, I was told to. >> Okay. >> Right. So, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of things you do that you don't want to do, right? [snorts] But when you're told to do it, [laughter] >> that's a pretty open-ended question. That's that's I don't I don't know what you're getting at with that. >> What I mean is when we're told to do something, you know, there's a chain of command, right? It's not our job to >> clices and procedures, those rules and regulations, >> right? Same, you know, same same. Yeah. >> And so, you know, we don't question those who are above us. we just >> I'm not going to reveal any particular um devices or safes or if it's bolted down or if there's a time lock if it's an alarm. I'm not going to provide that information because again >> Okay. >> Um All right. Um how long have you worked for the department? >> 30 years. >> 30 years. >> Okay. What's uh what's your current salary? >> It's a garage floor. It's just uh it's policy. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Whenever someone's uncooperative or doesn't tell me what I want to know, it's policy to put gloves on. I don't know. Again, I don't know. I don't question why we do the things we do. It's just policy. >> Okay. >> And you are being quite uncooperative. I >> How am I being uncooperative? >> Well, I I need to know about the safe. That's what I was brought here to uh that what I was sent here to ask about. And it's just policy. When people don't cooperate, >> I have policies, too. put on rubber gloves. >> Okay. >> So, have you had issues with authority previously? >> No. >> Okay. Is this the first time? >> No. >> This isn't the first time? >> Like, what do you mean? Like >> having issues with authority? Like when you're asked questions and you are uncooperative and you refuse to answer the way that I I want you to answer. >> I don't think I've been uncooperative. >> Interesting. >> Just hang out for me. >> No, I'm not. I don't need to hang out for you. >> Hey, can we go, man? >> No, you're you're not free to leave. >> You need to stop. >> I don't need to stop. I'm telling you what you need to do, and you're going to >> What crime do you suspect me of? >> So, we're free to talk to you after. We're going to talk to them. We're going to find out what they call disabled. Okay. >> So, you don't know why you're here, but I'm detained. >> You're here for a call for service. They called on you guys about being disorderly right now. So, we're going to >> Do you know what disorderly is? So, we're just making sure that everything's good. >> Am I free to go >> now? You are. >> You're a dumb mother efer. >> Okay. Well, you can back up. >> You don't get to detain people. No, you can back up. No, you can back up. >> Chill out if you would like to. If you would like to. >> You're dismissed. Walk away. >> Sorry. Go ahead. He keeps approaching me aggressively. >> Right here. Nicholson. We're not going to have any issues here. Let me Let me We're fine. >> Absolutely. I I have no issue with you. I understand you guys are doing your investigation. >> When's the last time you were deposed? Can you ask the violent man to leave so we can just have a calm talk? >> Taking one step out the door. Out the door. I'm no threat whatsoever. Look, >> I understand that. I understand that. >> Ask the violent man to leave, please. So we can just be reasonable. >> It's just you and I talk right now. >> Okay. She can stay and and uh you can stay. These two both detained me. They can go. She didn't detain me. >> No. And so that's what you and I are just talking. You're free to leave at any point you want. Okay. >> I understand you wanted to talk. So >> And let's have him leave. >> Please. You mind just? Absolutely. I appreciate that. Thank you. >> I appreciate that. him as well. He detained me as well. She can stay as backup. You already know I got no weapons. If I If I were going to hurt you, I' i'd hurt you. If you were going to hurt me, you'd hurt me.