since I got a call and I'm here do you have a you have ID on you okay so we'll put Jose with planning is uncooperative yeah very uncooperative yeah go ahead yeah you got it on video very uncooperative mhm what's hosway salary do you know it I think it's like in the lower 70s if I have to guess okay this is if if I received this level of cooperation with all my investigations we wouldn't have to do things the hard way hide we're an open book what is your salary my salary I is in like I think it's 101 101 mhm I really appreciate it so much this has been the easiest investigation I've done in months I didn't know I was getting investigated today well you know scared me you have a camera m we well you did wonderful if more people were were more cooperative and friendly and polite um you know we wouldn't have problems we're here to answer questions we start the public you're the public thank you so much Veronica all right have a good one you too uh we're conducting our investigation as you guys know we got a call and when we get a call we take it very serious uh we come out to investigate and we're looking for voluntary compliance [Music] hands hey how you doing today my name is Grande Johnson uh I'm here with the uh evidence Gathering oversight okay and I'm here to uh investigate uh a call that I got it says that uh someone is very unprofessional with phone calls here it says uh they don't know how to answer phone calls in a decent time or how to answer them at all very unsatisfied with their work not to mention it's 10:00 a.m. in the morning how is no one picking up a phone not once they harass the wrong people they need to focus on getting these junkies thrown in The Slammer so I guess that's kind of two complaints in one so maybe we can address one at a time and I guess that would be government employees answering the phones what do you know about that what can you tell me about that I'm not in his position to speak on that you may want to speak to my supervisor yeah I'm the yeah I'm I'm in no position to speak on that I'm the planner here so you know I I doal with planning planning yeah excellent uh since I got a call and I'm here do you have a you have ID on you I got my business card here great what's your name again uh Grande Johnson Grande Johnson and who are you with I'm I'm with uh evidence Gathering oversights and that's a government agency uh no no it's my agency um and I deal with uh comp complaints on government Personnel from the private sector does that make sense so um you can go ahead and put my position down I am a government obedience detective um how many people here are here to answer the phones uh usually just one one what's uh what's that person's name uh anel anel and what's the last name you know I don't even know if I need to be answering these questions to be honest um I just don't feel comfortable um you know I'm not that's not my job here I know what you're doing that's okay um I'm not totally opposed to it whatever you're right uh have freedom to ask whatever you want but again these this I I believe is over me so I'm just going to stop there um and yeah until I get further direction to speak to you or somebody else and uh but yeah okay so you don't want to cooperate with the investigation no I don't think I'm supposed to okay so we'll put Jose with planning is uncooperative yeah very uncooperative yeah go ahead yeah you got it on video very uncooperative mhm uh anything else that you want to tell us about like are you howse how do you how else do you feel about uh people um filing complaints on you I think that's fine yeah I think that's fine people can complain and all they want and okay you know we're doing the best we can with the limited capacity we have so okay can you tell me more about that what's the town budget I like I said I can't right now I got stuff to do I actually got work so um yeah free to follow up you got a contact information right there somebody will get back to you okay what's uh what's what's your salary what's what my salary yeah uh can that be disclosed yeah it's perfect information everything's online sir oh yeah our entire budget is online I'm Veronica on the city man perfect I thought so nice to meet you Grande Johnson hi how can I help you um so we're just here today I'm I'm with the uh evidence Gathering oversight which is a a private entity um that uh investigates complaints against uh government employees and elected officials um I am a government obedience detective M um and today I'm investigating some complaints i' got a call and you know per company policy when I get a call I've got to come out here I got to ID everybody and try and get everybody story um do you have any ID no I don't I don't uh Grande Johnson is um I can I can give you a contact information for super yeah whatever anything you need is subject to public records request um our budget is online perfect um what you know I'm here to help do you have uh your budget is online so I'm trying to figure out what I need what I need to ask for and and verbally get answers for what I need to go online for and what I might need to do open records requests for cuz I um I imagine that yeah I don't know what you need so I our budget's online what's Angelica's last name Angelica kintana what's H's salary do you know it I don't have it off the top of my head but I it's online it is online his precise Sal the budg the all our the entire budget is online for the last 10 years Okay the reason I ask is because sometimes people tell me it's online but then it's I refer to it like daily when I have to look for account numbers and things like that that is my reference to do my job excellent it helps me to find account numbers and and you gave me things that you're asking for I look at yep that's me okay let me write this down Veronica Moreno m o r NL do you have a computer that I can use to look up post salary I don't I don't you want me to look it up right here here you can go on your phone and look it up I all my devices are being used for sorry you can go no no that's okay you you've been very like in the 70 range I want to say 70 range you've been thank you so much you're welcome I don't have anybody my heart but I I think I kind of have it I think it's like in the lower 70s if I have to guess okay this is if if I receive this level of cooperation with all my investigations we wouldn't have to do things the hard way or an open book thank you everything should be online whatever you can't find reach out to me I'll get it for you as as quickly and as I can we're a small city limit your resources we're at the lowest Staffing levels on record so bear with us um yeah whatever you need feel free well that might explain then uh one of the complaints here it says very unprofessional with phone calls uh don't know how to answer calls in a decent time or how to answer them at all very unsatisfied with their work not to mention it's 10: in the morning so basically some well I'm really not surprised we just hired my hel it's only been a week and a half so we're literally in training mode so it's taking longer than anticipated it took me about 30 days to fill the position so that could be a legit a complaint so I totally get it I I really I'm surprised it's just one complaint I would expect more so I think we're doing okay considering we're really low sck so Veronica I cannot tell you what a breath of the best that we can I I can't tell you what a breath of fresh air your cooperation is you know it's so we were already to the bottom of this complaint um you've already you're already working on it yeah I just oh my gosh such an attitude of gratitude for the public position you hold no whatever what you know I want to help because you know I I expect a level of service that I would expect any anywhere else I would go and you know the reality is that you know what we're doing the best that we can we got that that's just beyond this truth I would tell that to anybody else excellent thank you so much um what is your salary my salary I is in like I think it's 101 101 mhm and I appreciate you I know you're you're off the top of your head so I know it might not be precise I sincerely appreciate you being you know open about problem I have no problem um we serve at the pleasure of uh the public so we're here to answer those questions and serve thank you so much so let me the other let's look at the other complaints I imagine that you're you've already fixed them more RIT fixing them based on the attitude that I'm I'm seeing here uh is it normal for them to trash the mag lights is that right trash the mag lights Flash The Flash the mag lights at driver's faces while they are driving must be a it's not in our community we don't have that here it's not in South tuon we're 1.2 s m seated we don't have any of those lights I mean I think they've already been like I don't even think it's legal to have those anymore uh flashlights like on flashlights like from police officers yeah yeah what they're saying is that flash uh police officers are flashing lights at drivers as they pass I've never heard of such a thing we only we we sir we are at the lowest saing levels on record I can't see why an officer has the time to do that and it doesn't even make any sense okay I would say sounds like just a it doesn't even even sound like it would I've never heard I've been here 30 years mhm never heard I've heard like you know complaints naturally but I've never heard that that would not happen Okay um so we think that probably didn't happen I think that complaint may have been about a year ago I'm trying to remember I I only took into consideration complaints that were a year or or newer cuz there's complaints dating back seven plus years really and and we didn't we didn't regard those just cuz we didn't feel like it was going to be relevant to today no that's okay but you're telling me also how long have you been city manager I've been the city manager four times in the last 10 years I've worked here for 30 years I was born and raised here um my family came here in the early 1930s we're a small City we are completely surrounded by the City of Tucson so we have their problems but in a in a smaller scale a smaller budget so your city is one square mile is it 1.2 1.2 square miles mhm okay to be exact well um just so that I'm thorough I am going to look at and read the last complaint just to make sure that we've gone over them all uh if I could rate no stars I would south Tucson detectives are a joke they do not reply to voicemails or answer the phone and again I don't know you know I just come to get everybody's side of the story on it so maybe I should take that one over to the police department we have two people in our court in our police records department they're there Monday through Friday 8 to 5 maybe I'll go take that up with them yeah great if there if there's anything else you need if there's any more complaints please feel free to let me know cuz we want to improve I really appreciate it so much this has been the easiest investigation I've done in months I didn't know I was getting investigated today yeah well you know scared me you have a camera m well you did wonderful if more people were were more cooperative and friendly and polite you know we wouldn't have problem we're here to answer questions we start the public you're the public thank you so much Veron all right have a good one you too