Okay. So, what originally happened? I'm going that way. I see one car speed past me in the wrong lane of traffic. He rolls in. That woman's chasing me. Woman chases him in the wrong lane of traffic. They go down this way. I I lit up at Daisy Bates and Broadway. She fled and came to here. I get out. >> The woman over there. >> Let me call Chief. >> A woman runs from police, fleeing for four blocks before pulling into a parking lot of a business owned by her father, who's also a state senator. Her father, a state senator, actually interferes with police duties and gets arrested. >> My name is Bill Walker. Senator Bill Walker. The higher-ups at the department find out that the officers made a lawful arrest of a member of the ruling class and immediately demand his release. >> Apparently, Senator Bill Walker, they've got in a vehicle. I'm trying to get the story from everyone. Take him out of cuffs immediately. >> Without having the slightest clue what he's been arrested for. Could have been shoplifting, murder, rape. Didn't matter. Release him now. >> Kirk, take take Walker out of cuffs immediately. >> Not taking nobody out of cuffs. Our chief gave him out of >> what that you can take him out. I'm not doing that. >> I just gave you >> I disagree with many of the laws that are on the books and believe they shouldn't be enforced on anyone. But whether you agree or disagree with any legislation or police policies, this body cam footage shows clearly what I've been trying to tell people for years. Laws don't matter at all to the lawless. You are simply ruled by a gang of thugs, thieves, murderers, and pedophiles that call themselves the legislature, the executive, and the judicial branch. They'll try to tell you that they're a governmental system of checks and balances, but what you're about to witness here is something that we rarely actually get to see caught on camera. >> She had a suspended license and per policy it says that we do have to tow for suspended. However, I am understanding that you know if chief is saying let this vehicle go, let this vehicle go. >> My name is Bill Walker. Senator Bill Walker. Have you heard from your chief yet? >> All the quiet parts are said out loud in this video. We've got to try to minimize this as much as we possibly can because >> it's already been to the mayor's office. >> He called the mayor directly. >> Yeah. >> While on patrol, a Little Rock, Arkansas police officer has a man pull up to him and tell him that the woman behind him is chasing him. He sees the woman driving the wrong direction in traffic and tries to initiate a traffic stop. The woman flees and runs for four blocks before pulling into the parking lot of a business owned by her father, who's also a state senator. As soon as she stops, both her and the officer get out of their cars and she does a thing. I really don't know what to call it. Maybe somebody in the comments can let me know. >> Hey, what's going on? >> You better GET UP INTO THIS HOME NOW. WHY ARE YOU CHASING ME? WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO ME? AS WE CAN SEE HERE, the woman acts totally reasonable while the officer acts like a total lunatic. >> I NEED NOTHING TO GO ASK. >> I'M TALKING TO YOU CUZ YOU'RE THE ONE DRIVING. >> HEY, I AIN'T DO NOTHING TO GET YOUR HANDS OFF OF ME. GET YOUR HANDS OFF OF ME. THAT MEANS THAT THE POLICE. THE POLICE. WHY ARE YOU ON ME? I HAVE NOT DONE NOTHING. >> Another unit, PLEASE. >> I DID NOTHING. I DID NOTHING. >> I GOT I GOT NOTHING. FOCUS. NOW, calm down. I got >> No, she's staying out here. She's staying out here. >> I got I got >> I can't breathe. >> I can't breathe. >> Calm down. >> I'm 104. She's having a panic attack now. Uh, have Mims on standby. Start one more unit. >> I can't breathe. NO. NO. As we see, the officer continues to act erratically while the woman conducts herself with decorum and professionalism. [laughter] >> Do you know what's going on? >> Do you know her? >> Yeah, that walker daughter. Did she lose a family member or something? Huh? >> Did she lose? Someone came up and said she was trying to run them over. They don't know nothing. I don't know. Go into send mems if you got them in a row. [laughter] >> Can you lay on your side? >> I think she >> I'm going go talk to dad. Watch her. Someone >> is that car that's sitting down there on the side of the road? >> Yeah. He said she was trying to run him over and they were both like had their flashes on. She was chasing him. Then I lit him up and she took off. >> Yeah. Just watch her for a minute. >> The woman's father arrives on scene. >> Sir, do you do you know what's going on? >> I do not. >> Did she just lose a family member or something like that? >> No. No. She came down there. She just went off on me at the other building and I didn't know what was going on with She was chasing some guy and then she found >> that's a guy that uh was buying trying to buy some chairs from me. >> Okay. Did >> where was he at? She can take it. >> Young 41. >> Can you send me one more unit to make contact with my complaintant? Whoever that is at Chester and Daisy Bates go left. If you can stop with that car that's over there with it flashes on. Uh he pulled over to the side of the road, had his flashes on. He pulled up to me and claimed this vehicle I'm out with was trying to hit him. 104, just circle around a couple times. See if you see him. >> What she do? Jump out. >> She was on the phone yelling at somebody and yelling at me. So you can go and cuss and she start doing this. >> Sir, could I get her information real quick? Do you she So who who's that guy? >> I don't know. There was a guy that was meeting me to buy chairs and um she got mad and took off after him. I don't know what the situation is. >> That's what he pulled up on me and said she was trying to hit him and then she took off down here. >> I got you. >> And so I don't know what's going on. >> So did he do something to y'all? >> They do nothing to me. He just trying to buy some chairs for me. So I don't know what he did that got her offset like this. I don't know whether they have some previous history. I guess this guy said she some guy was trying to buy chairs from him and for some reason some disturbance happened between him and her and she was chasing him. He flaged me down and said this vehicle's trying to hit him and he left. >> She took off. >> He was sitting down there, but that was while >> I was running code and just drove past. >> She good to talk. I got to tell her a few things. >> She's having a panic attack right now. I'm about to get out of here and she's being accused of aggravated assault. So, I need to get her side of the story. Ma'am, are you able to tell me what happened? That guy, he came up to me and accused you of trying to hit him with a car, then you took off. That's the only reason I'm here. >> But he's gone. I'm just going to make a report. I just want your side to be in there so it doesn't just look bad on you. My car. >> He hits your car. >> This is your mama trying to >> She's trying to pick up K. >> I'm coming. >> Hi. >> Huh? >> I don't even know. She not going to jail cuz she was chasing some other guy in a car. He said she was trying to hit him. He left. So now I don't have a victim. no crime now, but she started having a breakdown. >> Not sure exactly if she was going through a car or onto the ground, but she has uh left side pain going down this uh this arm here right now. Starts at the top of her shoulder to go down her hand. Said she's got severe tingling going down. >> She see from me. >> Did she say what happened? >> What were you doing when it started hurting city? Huh? I'm >> go out there and take care of the paperwork with this is going to go somewhere now. So, I'm going to have to follow Paul. >> You're yelling in your emotions. Sounds like your left arm. Could you start me a contract tow Daisy Bates in Chester? Did >> you tow her car? >> I'm about to. >> Where is it? >> Right there. Oh, >> her mom's fixing to take her to the hospital. >> It's not going to be in her car. >> We need to have him wait. >> No, I'll just give them a copy of the pink coffee right now and just let them leave. I'll just get the keys from them. All right. So, I need to talk to them real quick. I can't get around not towing the vehicle. It's within our it's it's within our policy of toll for suspend a license with the severity of what she's being accused for. I'm going to get in trouble with my job if I don't do it. >> Okay. >> So, I need the keys from her. >> Okay. Let me let me have the keys. They going to have to call the cops. >> I know. I just need Where's the key? >> This dude is a politician or in other words, a professional liar. You'll see later. He's the type of guy to help you look for your car keys when he knows damn well they're in his pocket. >> Where's the keys that I just gave you? [ __ ] >> Those are the keys in there. >> The car's in my name, too. So, I don't have the keys. >> And so, even though the car was par I can't let it go. >> Who was your supervisor? >> I can get him down here. He's still going to get towed though. like Do you need me to come down here? >> Is that okay? >> Okay. Hold on one second. >> Hold on one second. >> Uh I'll let you explain it to her. It's within our policy that we have to tow for suspended license. She has that. And plus, she's being accused of like aggravated assault right now. I don't have the other party right now. He said he's going to call in later >> like now. Today. >> Yeah. He said he'll come make his side of the report later cuz when I found her, she was chasing another vehicle and then ran for me. So, with the severity of things, I can't I can't just let it go or I may get in trouble with work. So, our court date and times there at the bottom. But yeah, if we get the keys, that would help. >> I don't know. >> Hold on, man. You got a warrant out of Pine Bluff. You need to get situated. >> Supposed to take that off. >> That's why your license is suspended. Probably >> my emails from the court case. >> Okay. You got to call them back cuz it's still showing. Okay. I've already >> got on accident. >> Maybe got them on accident. Teresa, >> one of you two picked up some keys off the table. What'd you do with them? >> They're taking it no matter what. And they're going to damage it if they don't have the keys. >> There was a bunch of keys on the coffee table in there. I watched you wanted. >> I know those are your keys. >> Before that, there were some keys on the coffee table that were picked up by one of you. >> I just picked these seats right here. >> My car. Well, that's not We need it in drive. It's hard. >> Yeah, I get her down here. >> Okay. Who is it, guys? >> Sergeant Maker. >> Mer. >> Hey, Sarge. Uh, you're being requested down here on my stop. >> I'm sorry. >> Searching my answer. What's going on? We got to do an inventory search. Make sure there's no weapons or valuables. Making sure no weapons or valuables are in here. We We got to do >> We got a purse in there which I need to get out. >> That's department policy. >> But why didn't y'all give opportunity for us to come over here? I was coming to get a purse. >> Nobody said that to us. >> But but I mean you don't Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We don't have to give you an opportunity. We're going to go through it first and then give you the opportunity. >> You don't have a reason to go through our stuff. >> We do. We're told. >> Listen. >> You what? >> You may not. Just hold on. >> Wait just a few minutes for your lieutenant to arrive. She'll be here, but I'm still going to go through it. >> No, you cannot go through. We're going to go through it. >> You don't have to I'm not moving. I'm on my property. >> I'm on my property. >> What? Do you want to know what I witnessed her do? Yes. >> I could take her to jail. Well, tell me what >> she drove into oncoming traffic. Almost hit me and several other vehicles as well as a few people walking around chasing that other guy and I lit her up and she ran. She ran like four blocks. That's felony fleeing. She could go to jail for a felony. >> I'm finished. But you didn't say anything like that. >> And she's getting a citation. >> I know. You didn't say anything like that to me. >> Then we're going to do our job. >> Well, but listen. When you first left here, what you told me, sir, >> was that you were not going to tell >> whose vehicle is it? >> It's mine and her. I'm her father. >> But whose vehicle's on the registration? >> Both. No. >> It's not. It's It's the registration on the vehicle is a leasing agency. >> That's right. We lease the car. >> Yeah. >> Okay. The leasing company owns the car, not you guys. >> We lease it. No. >> Yeah. you lease, you pay for it. >> So, if I pull the registration out of the car, >> it's going to say leasing company. It's not going to have y'all's names on it. It's going to say the leasing company, right? >> Therefore, it's the leasing company's car. >> Yes. >> Yes. She was in physical control of the vehicle, but that doesn't mean you have a right to right now because she was driving it, not you. Trying to tow the car in there. >> They're just elevating to it. >> No, we did not say you cannot tow it. I'm trying to get >> And they're telling us we can't search it. Okay. So, what's your name? Officer Curse. Okay. Y'all got to back up. Y'all got to back up now. Officer, >> y'all got to back up now. Go. I'm going to do my job. Back up. >> Put your hand on me. >> Back up. >> Don't you, >> bro. We're done talking. I got a job to do. Back up. >> I don't care. Back up. >> You are going to go to jail. Back up. >> Give a damn about going to jail. >> Who the hell do you think you're talking to, man? I'm talking to you. You keep me >> like that. You can't be talking to me. Back up. >> Everybody the same. >> Go stand over there. Go stand over there. >> You don't know me. I don't know you. Back up, guys. Man, >> back up. Makes sense. >> Back up. >> WE'RE NOT blocking anything. We on our way. >> I got a curse and I got TO YOU SAID BACK UP. >> I SAID back up so he can do his job. >> Back up so he can do his job. >> Go stand in front of my car. >> Stand. >> Go stand in front of my car. >> You're not I'm not going >> I don't care. >> I'm not going there. >> You're going to go on cuff if you don't back up. >> Go. Where you going to go? I'm giving you one second. One second. Go over there. >> Turn around. You can go on cuff. Turn around. You can go and cuff. >> You can go and cuff. We're not doing this. >> No. Back up. SIR, >> STOP. STOP. STOP. STOP. SIR, STOP. STOP. SIR, STOP. HUH? Don't they know now all of a sudden the lady who was incapacitated and needed to go to the hospital has come back to life and she's headed over to use her cool, CALM, AND COLLECTED DEMEANOR NOW. WHY YOU TALKING TO ME >> TO DEESCALATE THINGS? >> So you got to stop. You got to stop. You got to stop. >> Why you doing nothing to him? >> You never c me. >> Yeah. >> Don't worry about he didn't do nothing. >> He got the right to speak. You told me YOU GET MY INHALER. GET MY INHALER. >> STAY OUT OF THE CAR. >> STAY OUT OF THE CAR. >> Why didn't anybody think about that before when y'all were in the in the building? >> We had people trying to help. >> We had people trying to kill me. >> All right. Come on. >> Why you GOING TO RESCUE MY DAD? >> We're going in the car. >> I need to go to the hospital. >> Come on. Don't take no money. taking everything out. >> Don't take the money. Get this money out. >> Hey, get on his side. >> While under arrest, the officers allow the senator to reach into his pocket and pull something out. While he tries to hand that something to one of his employees, one of the officers realizes it's the keys to the car that they've been looking for. And that's when things get physical in a fight over the car keys. >> No. No. >> What is it? WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS IT? THE CORKY. I GUESS >> OKAY. LISTEN, CALM DOWN. HEY, HEY, HEY. [cheering] WHAT IS GOING ON? >> OKAY, EVERYBODY, calm down. >> Just sit down and I'm going to TALK TO YOU. HE TRYING TO STEAL MY >> YOU MUST BE NEW. >> Have Have a seat. I'm going to TALK TO YOU. OKAY. >> LET ME LET ME GET BACK. >> Let me get them to calm down. Okay. Okay. If you'll just have a seat in here, I'm going to talk to them. Get everyone calm down. They'll come back and talk to you. Okay. If you'll just watch your head and duck in there. Okay. I don't want you to hit your head. >> Hey, let me tell them to calm down. >> They're calling. I'm going to go talk. >> Everybody calm down. >> Yeah. Everyone's cal. Sharon. Hi, >> Sheriff. Sheriff, >> turn left. >> Just Just calm down. >> Get him off the ground. >> Sheriff, just calm down. Don't worry about it. I got this. >> Okay, >> I got this. I got >> everybody. Hey, what's your name? >> Sheriff. My name is Bill Walker. Senator Bill Walker. >> Have you heard from your chief yet? >> Um, I believe he called me while I was running code, but I couldn't. >> I was trying to get a hold of him. If you would please let him know that you have me here. >> Yes, sir. I will. >> This man's already talked to him. Yes, sir. All right. I was trying to get you here. I asked for you. I requested you. >> Yes, sir. >> And this thing elevated to a whole new level. >> Yes, sir. >> And I'm not happy. I hope you got your reporter on. >> I do. >> Let me um let me figure out what's going on. Let me call my chief back and I will be right back to talk to you, Mr. Walker. Yes, sir. >> What is going on? >> Okay. >> Chief is calling me on the way here. I can't answer cuz I'm running. >> Okay. So, what originally happened? I'm going that way. I see one car speed past me in wrong lane traffic. He rolls in. That woman is chasing me. woman chases him in the wrong lane of traffic. They go down this way. I I lit her up at Daisy Bates and Broadway. She fled and came to here. >> I get out. >> The woman over there in the orange that was over here. >> I'm not here with felony. I'm hitting her with failure to yield to emergency vehicles. I gave her citation. Her vehicle getting towed. >> Let me call she's back. >> I've got chief calling me while I'm running code. I just got on scene out here. Apparently, Senator Bill Walker, they've got in a vehicle. I'm trying to get the story from everyone. Take him out of cuffs immediately. Kirk, take take Walker out of cuffs immediately. >> Yes. >> Why? >> I'm All right. I'm not calling. I'm >> not taking nobody out of cuffs. >> Her chief. Get him out of cuffs. >> What? That you can take him out. I'm not doing that. >> I just gave you a direct order to take him out of Take him out of curse cuffs. Church chief, >> I'm so so sorry. I was running code. Take him out of cuffs now. >> Why don't y'all take him out? >> What are your charges on him? >> Obstruction. I'm sitting here trying to do search. He's running off like, "No, you're not doing that. Get out of the vehicle." Okay. [snorts] What the [ __ ] The [ __ ] is this? >> Just be easy. >> Be easy. >> He He called He called the chief and Meer made me want to take him out of cuss. >> Who called the chief? >> This guy. He called the chief and the mayor. >> Why? Why was he in custo in the first place? >> Cuz I'm sitting there trying to do an inventory search of the vehicle. He's running up on me. >> He's like, "You're not going through that vehicle." Yes, sir. Bye. >> You will meet me back at the substation after this. >> Okay. >> Where's the other guy at? >> Mr. Gibbons, who are you in M in relation to Mr. Walker? >> I'm his employee. I work here. >> You work here? >> Okay. Let me finish figuring out what happened and we'll see what we can do. Okay, >> she's good to go. I'm just going to go and cut everything out since the chief said let it go. >> Get rid of the ticket that flagged me down and said there was a girl with an orange t-shirt that took off running that way. >> Might have been her. >> She's over there right now going to the house. >> I'm letting everything though. I'm not toning it no more. I'm not going to write the ticket. >> I need to know what's going on. Okay, so you're driving which way? eastbound at the intersection of Broadway and Daisy Base. >> Okay. And his car >> I was going southbound from there >> and then a car comes into oncoming traffic with his flashers coming towards me. So I stopped. They ran the red light. >> And that was Mr. Walker. >> No, that was some other guy that left. He pulled over and like he's like that woman's chasing me. Shortly after that, she comes flying through the intersection wrong way of traffic. >> Who's she? >> The woman who I wrote a ticket in left. She was going to the hospital. She's having a mental breakdown. >> Okay. So, how did we get to a point of here? If neither if Mr. Walker wasn't involved in the >> that pursuit came that way. I said, "All right, I'm going to let this go right now. We got something bigger coming." So, I went to that pursuit. It ended right there. I came back and I let her request a mens now. I think it may have been from when I grabbed her. She said her shoulder hurt. So, I was like, "Now, >> the traffic stop the vehicle chasing the other one." >> Yeah. cuz when she she refused to stop for like four blocks, came here, got out the car, started walking away, cussing at me, and I said, "No, tell me what's going on." And she walked away. I grabbed her arm and she jerked. >> Okay. >> How did Mr. Walker get involved in all of this? >> He's her dad. >> He is her dad. >> While doing the inventory search the vehicle, he kept walking up on me like closer than closer than y'all to went back up. So, I started trying to escort him back and he said, "Don't push me." Like making indirect threats. I don't remember what he was saying. >> Okay. >> So then I gave him like five chances cuz he was real nice and gaining. Then I finally I started actually pushing back. Okay. >> Then he started pushing his weight back into me. So at that point I tried to put him in cuss. >> So >> we're trying to do an inventory search. >> So she was following the guy that flagged you down. >> Mhm. And that guy left. He said I'll make a report later. >> Okay. >> But she was 100% chasing him. >> Do we know what did you site her for? >> Uh reckless driving, failure to yield, and driving on suspended. And then shortly after that, a call came in from Roseville Broadway. A guy saying a woman was chasing him, which was this incident. >> Okay. Who was the guy? >> The guy? I don't know. He >> He pulled over the side of the road. I chased her down. I told someone else to go stop with him and then he left. I had him call him back. He said he's already in North Little Rock. He's going to come 12 Street. >> But we have his information. >> No, we don't have information. Never had time to get it. >> Communications. >> Communications. Okay. The guy in our car, the guy in my car, he was out here initially when we were out here. >> He is an employee of this location. >> So they were putting him in the back of the vehicle. He started walking my harness. I see harness telling me to get back. So harness pushes him back. Then he just starts going off right here. And I'm like, "Hey, calm down. You need to back up." So Alan shows up. Now we're trying to we're trying to Well, now we're we got to detain him cuz he's going crazy. >> They've been pushed back and then he ran back up on Randy. And that's why I was like, >> so when Alan grabbed him was like, "Hey, calm down." He's like literally fighting down like this. Like all right, now we got to go to the ground. We put him in the car. What vehicle was she driving that you cited her in? >> She just left so she probably wouldn't jump her off. >> And this is the one you felt the toe on. >> Yes. >> I can let it go though. I don't mind. >> Oh, just hang on a second. When Mr. Walker came and made contact with you, what was he saying? What was he asking? >> He He was He was telling asking, "You're not searching. You're not telling it." >> This is on Who's Who does the owner come back to? >> I have a lease coming. >> Okay, let me go talk to him. >> Hi, Mr. Walker. I'm Sergeant Maker. >> Hi, Sergeant Maker. How are you? >> Good. Okay, tell me your side. >> I'm a concerned father. I'm also a businessman. I'm also president of the college over here. I'm also was on the airport commission. I'm also friends with a whole host of folks in this committee. I served in the state senate, state house. I know how to deal with public servant folk. I know the job, but but there's a way that you don't have to escalate this to this level. I mean, I got an employee now that they throw on the ground. I got my wife out here who's almost going through the roof cuz we're concerned about our child. >> And he's Scotty's better judging than that. That's that's very disappointing to me. I got her handcuffs on me so tight. I mean, this guy just went off. I never raised my voice. >> Never. >> Did I raise my voice? >> Both you and Is that your wife? >> My wife did, of course. He's a woman, but I never >> You both did. Yes. >> To who? To you? To you? >> I ra >> Oh, come on, man. Did you all record this? >> Yes. >> Good. I think y'all look at it. I >> I will. I have to at this point. >> I never raised my voice. >> Okay. >> Um >> I I'm I'm disappointed in that. I really >> I'm sorry you feel that way. >> Well, it's it's just the truth, man. >> You know, it's the truth. >> There's a difference in what you feel with your voice ra. >> I'm talking at the same level. >> We're giving you a lawful order to step back. >> Step back. >> Okay. >> Okay. That's how you see it. >> He cited her for reckless driving. driving on suspended and failure to yield to an emergency vehicle had a suspended license and per policy it says that we do have to tow for suspended. However, I am understanding that you know if chief is saying let this vehicle go, let this vehicle go. >> Have you talked to him? >> Um I called him and he told me to call him back whenever I get an update of what exactly was going on. >> Hey Chief. >> Hey. >> I'm here with Sergeant Maker. Um >> cluster. >> Very much so. I'm gonna let her kind of explain it to you because she got a better chance at at getting it all right. >> It was Mr. Walker's daughter driving the vehicle and she was cited for reckless driving, driving on suspended, and failure to yield to an emergency vehicle. It is parked here on his property. I know that policy says that we shall tow for driving on suspended. The tow truck is here, but if you want us to leave this vehicle on his property, we will dismiss this tow truck. >> Yes. Send the tow truck away. Yeah, since it's on his property. It's his daughter. I mean, it's his property. He can leave it there. So, >> yeah, we can leave it. So, yeah. Don't >> So, how did we >> While they were about to do the inventory search, he was telling them that you're not going to search this vehicle? And Officer Kurts was telling him to, you know, back up, back up. I guess Officer Kurts raised his voice at Mr. walker and they were arguing back and forth about getting into the vehicle. At which point Curt said, "Since you're not getting back, you're under arrest." Uh, put puts him in cuffs and starts putting him in a vehicle, which is when one of his employees comes out and sees that Mr. Walker's in handcuffs and starts approaching officers and he then gets put onto the ground. >> Oh, lordy, lady, lady, lady, ladies. Man, they just don't make my job easy. They don't. >> Uh, no they don't. Uh, okay. So, we got Mr. Walker taken care of now. Correct. >> He is He is out of cuffs. He has the toe slip, but I will send this tow truck away and allow this vehicle to stay on his lot. >> Or he can turn it over. He can release it to him. I mean, you know, he can take ownership. It's his daughter. He can take the car. Uh, which by policy, we have the opportunity to if they have an owner, we can give it to them. So, I think at this point, we we've kind of >> The uh the owner is a leasing company. Oh, is it? >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah, just turn it over to him. Some issues. >> Yes, sir. >> What about his uh employee? >> Hey, Chief, what about his employee that we got in custody? >> What are we arresting him for? What are we putting Just cuz he walked up on somebody? >> He was walking up on officers as they were trying to get Mr. Walker in the vehicle. >> So, what are we arresting for? >> I would assume that they have him for obstruction. That's a a isn't it? We could sight him for that. >> Yeah. Well, ain't this man supposed to get fingerprinted, but >> we can put it >> more would be more disorderly or or obstruction. >> We'll have to talk to them and see what >> I'd have to Yeah. I mean, I know him walking up on the officers would be obstruction. I don't know if he was out here causing a scene necessarily. >> Yeah. I'm just saying and I think some of our officers have to understand people going to walk up do I think common sense goes out the door on a lot of things but yeah I don't think we need >> yeah let's try to figure out a way to I mean if we need to sign him fine I don't I don't know the circumstances and all that we can watch videos and determine but um I don't think we just need to try to mediate best we can cuz this is going to cause [ __ ] a storm and and we're going to eat probably some crow on it but um we try to minimize it the best we can >> Yes sir. So, and then we'll just go from there. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Okay. I appreciate it. Thanks. >> Byebye. >> You're good to go. Thank you. >> I don't even know. >> Oh, you were here for a toe, but you're good to go. >> Oh, okay. >> Thank you. So, what do we have? >> Give us. >> So, what happened with him was he's in handcuffs. >> Searching him. He starts going in his own pockets and pulling stuff out. He runs up and starts taking it from him. I stopped him, pushed him back and said, "No, get back." And that's when he boat up and started running at us again. >> So you said disorderly and refusal >> and obstruction. >> Obstruction. You can go obstruction cuz he was trying to take property from >> So we've got to try to minimize this as much as we possibly can because >> it's already been to the mayor's office. >> He called the mayor directly. Yeah, Chief's been on the phone with both of us already. >> Chief mad at us. >> Uh, no. Chief is not mad at anyone. Chief is trying like >> Chief Hilton. So, >> is it mad at us? >> No. >> We're just doing our job. >> So, Gibbons, while Kurt, it was you searching him, correct? >> I was searching. Yes. Searching Walker. >> Curts was searching Walker to put him in the vehicle. Gibbons was walking up taking the stuff from him. He was told to get back. He didn't get back. Um Rainey kind of gave him a push like get back. >> At first it wasn't even a push. I just said I just did this. I said, "Hey man, back up for me." Then he just blows up, starts screaming out of nowhere. Now when he's jumping up and down, then I gave him a tap on his like, "Hey, back up." He comes at me one more time. >> He actually Mr. Walker reached in his pocket, pulled something out, and goes here. And he's trying to hide it from us is what I thought. >> He went in his hand. >> Yeah, he went over Yeah, he pulled pulled something out of his pocket and was going here trying to hand it to him. And that's when I grabbed both of their hands and said, "No." And separate. >> Call me the keys to this vehicle. >> So they have disorderly refusal and obstruction. >> We will do whatever we're advised to do from this point. >> Yes. All right. Side them out for all three. >> Okay. I'm never asking, you know, your wisdom in this situation because I don't think any of us here on the patrol on the officer side have had this happen before. >> I think this is a first of them at this point. >> All right. So, we're going to we're going to site him out. So, they're going to fill out a citation um for obstructing, disorderly, and refusing to submit to them whenever they were telling him to get back. Um, but it's just a citation. He's going to be out of cuffs and he'll be right here with you. >> I Yeah, I got problem with both, but then I appreciate you. >> I understand. >> If you're wanting to make a formal complaint, I'm going to do that. >> Um, we've got the forms down at the substation that you'll have to come down and fill out. Um, >> you can either do it with us or internal affairs. The way it's all going to work. Okay. >> And internal affairs right now is at our Northwest substation, which is on Kanes Road. >> Exactly. >> It's 10,0001 Kanes Road. They're up there right now. So you can either file it with us or with them directly. What's your employee number? >> What is your employee number? Harness, what's yours? >> And where is Curtis? >> We are all going to 12th Street. Every single one of us.