[Music] and welcome to facts or [Music] [Music] frogs when you are witnessing is real the participants are not actors all right appearances for the people versus Frank mha Jr good afternoon your honor Muhammad Muhammad on behalf of the people p86 [Music] 771 judge yeah you're a defendant sit at the defendant's chair not s j if I may try to help explain try I'll try um Mr Mich show uh is a sovereign citizen no I object I'm not a sovere citizen all right sir don't speak I maybe am not phrasing that correct don't speak until I ask you to speak but there is a difference between Frank Mich show uh or I think it Mr mich's assertion that there is a difference between the natural person Mr Frank M show and the sort legal entity I don't recognize that and that's what i' I've prepared Mr Michelle for the for that uh sir you're a defendant in my courtroom either I issue a bench warrant because you haven't appeared or you come up here and sit in the chair and we proceed all right so you're threatening me to absolutely I'm threatening you either you're here today or you're not if you're not here today a bench W will issue if you're here today I need you in the chair so we can proceed with the proceeding that schedule which is a preliminary exam and if I may I I have advised Mr M show that um the courts receive objections all the time or rule objections they are preserved on the record if he has he can appeal me I'll let I'll let you build whatever record you want to build Mr Mich are we on yes are you on to the cons hold on are you picking him up that's one of the reasons I want you up here a microphone here I'll speak loud are you picking him up yes go ahead are you honoring your oath to the Constitution today pardon me are you honoring your oath to the C you have Oath to I didn't swear an oath to the Constitution you hav I took an oath that said I would follow the Constitution to not uphold the Constitution yes follow the Constitution so you are a pod oath to the cons yes thank you I accept your o thank you okay now I have sir get your ass in the chair or leave and I'll issue a bench warrant you're not running the courtroom I am if you want to have an exam today get your ass in the chair that's the way it works I reserve all my rights I would have nothing less now are you representing yourself today I'm presen myself that's not what I asked you are you representing yourself or is this gentleman going to be your lawyer for today's proceeding I will be presenting my my myself today all right so that's a no you don't want him to represent you no he's for the record he's not my laer I don't have an attorney I present myself okay judge uh what I recommended to Mr micho is that he has a jurisdictional argument that he wants to to make um and that you know pending your Honor's ruling on that jurisdictional issue I have prepared for uh to conduct a preliminary exam okay and and could be you know available if he wanted to ask me to do that at the time so you want to represent yourself for that jurisdictional argument and if I against you then perhaps you want him to represent you is that what I'm hearing no that's I that's not what you're hearing all right so you don't want him at all under any circumstance I no I don't have I don't need an attorney for the record I'm fine okay so with that being said well hold on you can stick around if you want to but I'm not GNA obligate you to stay I understand judge I'm definitely gonna stay that's fine all right so today you have a jurisdictional argument you want to make will I uh I I serve notice sir it's a yes or no do you have a jurisdictional argument you'd like to make today I have a or no why are you forcing me to say answer because I'm running the courtroom and it's the way I want to do it do you have a jurisdictional argument you'd like to make today I do yes then make it what's your jurisdiction I'm I'm presenting myself so I need to know article six of the Constitution grants me the right to know what jurisdiction is this court operating up under state of Miss M no what jurisdiction state of Michigan okay what jurisdiction is the state of Mich district courts are legislative courts that means you're created by Statute the state of Michigan gives me my jurisdiction so okay is that I work under the authority of the state of Michigan what is it under word jurisdiction there is two different distri under the Constitution you have adaly and common law so I need to know this is not adaly what is and it's not common law it's statutory okay so it's statutory that is what civil no so what is it I can't defend myself unless I have it on the record is itur only to Sure shut up if you ask me a question I can't answer what you're talking okay cool my jurisdiction is both civil and criminal as provided by the statutes of the state of Michigan okay so today under which which one is this is the criminal case okay right so is that common law or aage it's statute it's neither common law or admiralty it's it's it's one or the other it don't say stat then you can appeal my ruling my ruling is it's neither admiralty or common law so this is a you say it's criminal for the rec yes okay and if it's criminal in order for a crime to exist there must be injured party for the record right there must be what an injured party yeah it's the people of the state of Michigan all right so if the people of the state of Michigan Right where's a forign statement where's what a swor statement I have to see a swor I injured someone there's a complaint in the file swor complaint sign uh you want to see it Alid David sworn affidavit no it's not I don't think it's an affidavit well okay so you said you wanted a sworn complaint from an injured party who have I ented for the record the state of Michigan how can I are bringing the charges how can I enter theate sit down Sit I'm not sit down or I will hold you in contempt another threat wow you're probably going to hear more than one I see all right I am ruling that I have jurisdiction you are free to appeal that to the Circuit Court proceed do the people have a witness that like to call in the exam yes judge the people are prepared to move forward um just as a quick preliminary matter we request a mutual order of sequestration with an exception with so again uh I'm not asking you to talk ma'am are you a possible witness in this case okay all right and would you mind putting your name on the record please Council I I want to look at the L would you mind putting your name on the record she's a winess she is a witness sir you speak again when I haven't asked you to and you're in contempt and we'll deal with that first the need the reason I need your name is because if if you appear somewhere down the road and want to testify we have to know that today you were in the courtroom and I can't do that by taking a picture of you so I'm asking you to state your name sir you are in contemp of Court that's a $100 fine you big dummy speak again when it's not your turn and I'll continue to up the Ane clear you can speak now I've asked you a question I object I don't give a you object is it clear what I said I'm waiting for an answer I said I you done what I post is say I want to know if you understand you've just been fined $100 for contempt I don't understand okay well you still owe me $100 are you gonna give me your name still that's fine thank you witness your honor the people called officer stepen oh I'm sorry one last Quick uh preliminary matter pursuant to 766 11d we'd like to introduce um a certified registered of action in regard to this individual being a previously convicted fellow I object hold on have you showed that to him I object I object what's your objection Mr Michelle my objection is that I am here under the GU of probable pause conference and I don't know how we here at a preliminary exam when I did not my I did not wave any right to wave a probable cause I just this is this is a preliminary exam this is okay so right here it says this is the probable cause hearing it says stop stop stop right now the question on the table is you've objected to admittance of that document I want to know what your legal objection is I'm also object what is your legal objection to not waving my probable cause here in denied that's admitted under what rounds if I deny not you didn't give me a valid objection I object you can't just object you you got to explain with the valid objection that we are having a a preliminary exam when I haven't had a probable Clause hearing that I did not they're the same thing Mr M still on this Mr M they're the same thing but it's still I have a right to a probable cause am I right or wrong sure try am I right do I have a right to a probable cause that's what today is schedu but today it says preliminary exam right here it says probable cause conference and today is a different date that says a preliminary have you ever had a grilled cheese it was different have you ever had a grilled cheese if it was different why would it have two have you ever had a grilled cheese I adct to any of that why would it have two separate columns take him out why would it have two separate columns I'm not playing this game with him today if you think you can get him to shut up along enough so we can have our hearing we'll do it but I'm not going to let him try to run my courtroom okay I I'll just be very brief in my one attempt here um I I would like to try to explain what I understand Mr micho's objection to be and what I have also represented to him regarding that rep regarding that objection Mr M micho I think the court record will reflect at a probable cause conference first on um November 29th and then again on December 20th I have uh disclosed I mean I think I've been very transparent with Mr Mich show that probable cause conference is a bit of a misleading name because probable cause conference under the court rle rules does not require that probable cause be established right um at the second probable cause conference Mr micho was caring for a sick relative so he wasn't able to attend that probable cause conference scheduled December 20th which didn't hurt him at all right I represented him on that day and I asked the court to wave his appearance so that he could remain with his family which stood to be his wishes I may now understand differently that I that I that I misrepresented him in some way but you know my goal goal was just to be able to conduct a prop conference where we were going to find out if there was any offer whether you know whether discoveries you don't have to tell me what they are I know what they are I know but I'm just trying to explain and I'm trying to explain it to him too but I'm not g to talk over him right and I'm not gonna play that crap today right so if you want me to explain what's scheduled today versus what was scheduled last time I'm happy to do that but you got to be quiet while I'm talking clear oh I hear you all right the last court date that we call a probable call conference is like a pre-trial on a misdemeanor it gives the parties a chance to discuss the case and see if there's any resolutions prior to the next step Next Step being preliminary exam at the preliminary exam the people have to prove to me that there's probable cause to believe that there was a crime and there's reason to believe you were involved that's what's scheduled today that is a probable cause hearing probable cause conference is just just a name that we all came up with instead of saying it's a pre-trial for a felon do you have any questions based on that at what point did I wave it because if if it's a hearing or you didn't wave it there's nothing do I have a right to have a probable Clause conf no what you can do that right now do you want to make a deal with the people I want to be able to prepare myself for the probable cause conference order ing for a problem cause conference it's a conversation it's still take preparation you want a PCC go out the ho I have a PCC with the unrepresented defendant judge just for the record um there will be no offer at this stage there's your PCC now do you want to play guilty do you want to have an exam and at the exam he's got to prove to me those two things I just said probable cause to believe a crime was committed on this date and reason to believe that you were involved do you want to have that hearing so he has to prove his case or do you want to wait that's the other option you can wave the preliminary exam and will take the case directly to uh circuit court level two weeks down the road for an arraignment on information which I would describe as another pre-trial on a felony where you and the prosecutor can discuss the case see if there are any offers that's another option would you agree with that assessment Mr Sullivan I would agree and I would also just add that Mr Mich has made his arguments today he ruled on his arguments and if he preserves his right to can as you've already said at circuit court and so if he wants to sort of move forward on that defense alone that you know the waiver does not preclude him from uh not all arguing jurisdiction at certific court level um but likewise if he holds a preliminary exam today holds the people to their burden he also maintains the right to you know continue his objections to jurisdiction to appeal the Court's orders regarding jurisdiction at that next level at the court level assuming that the people are able to prove Prof cost today now you want to have an exam today well I wanted to address some address some I serve the court some notices I haven't read any of that because you were represented by councel no I wasn't I didn't have I don't have any contract as far as I knew you were represented by Council okay so now you know and I want I serve the court notices and I want like to First notice what would you like to put me on notice about well I I sered you notice that I requested the the criminal bonding information I requested bid Bond I requested the bid Bond the performance bond I have an affidavit there is no bond there are bonds this is a criminalist listen you can't tell me something and then just disagree with me and think listen to me sir I am not going to let you interrupt me oh you just interrupt me I'm in charge I get to do you don't get to do it's part of the Black Rob okay that's just the way it works my courtroom I get to decide how it's run there are no bonds required for me to do what schedule today I've been doing this 25 years I've never had a bond you have a bond okay I have a bond everyone here has a bond not in any definition I know so let's get to the point do you want an exam today no I really want to address okay so I'm not addressing any of that crap you got in front of you well since you since you say you don't have a bond can you can you express that in a via affidavit so I can have a it's on the record order a transcript I'm not signing anything for you okay also I want to also address that I sent uh affidavit a feed schedu for violation any of my rights there are no fee schedules well I gave you notice and great then you gave me notice doesn't change anything we still scheduled for an exam today yes just just putting on the record that I served your notice okay also I served you notice on my power of attorney okay you said that right and you haven't responded to that as well as my Indemnity bond which Separates Me and I have a private capacity I am not the artificial person United States citizen I am actually you can put on notice what you sent the court if you want to uh make a record of that but I'm telling you I don't recognize any of that stuff you're talking about I don't recognize that you're not really Frank Micha okay I understand that's what you're trying AR but I recognize that under what what law could you represent or you can use or tell me that not just from what you say because ignorance of the law is no excuse for you or nobody else so what you saying just don't mean nothing I need to have facts okay well do prove it does it should mean something because prove it please prove can I prove what prove that I am I am not that I am the arici person I can prove your FR full faith and credit I I have Okay so hold on you've asked me I can prove you're Frank mha you know how I can prove that because when I called the case and said you either come up here and be frank mha or you leave you came up here you proved it for me you threatening me but if you're not you the threat means nothing it doesn't mean nothing but you're still threatening me and you're using it under color of law listen list you have I wasted too much time with you yes or no sir don't argue with me yes or no are we doing a preliminary exam today yes or no I object I will address answer the question I I want to address other issues as well you're in conted court put him in jail we're going to jail in jail for what for contemp of court I haven't I'm having you can appeal that too senten is 30 days see you in 30 days I object to that that's I'm happy to hear your objection process appeal me that's why Circuit Court judges have jobs take him out of here on C of law I can give you more than 30 days 30 days now you got to give them credit why is that well they're going to keep on doing it till they get it right and once again thanks for hanging out with us on faure frauds make sure you hit the Thumbs Up Button you're subscribed and ring that Bell for notifications so next time Premier video you can me in live chat with everyone else and leave a comment in the comment section tell me what you think Robert morly Chris Kelling Andy godess of Truth hats cats existential angst Westside girl reacts richer bird Jason Heen buddy Parker Cold Stone Wolf and if you're still hanging around thank you I appreciate you all make sure you hit that Thumbs Up Button you're subscribed ring the bell and leave a 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