[Music] and welcome to facts or frauds all right good morning we're on the record in the 53rd Circuit Court for the county of Shaban and we are providing Public Access both in the courtroom and also online our first case this morning and this morning's docket is uh people versus Trevor McLoud filed 23 - 6748 FH Council you want to State your appearances please Anthony Jo people Mr wgo you want to come out you've been appointed as standby Council in this case uh yeah my apologies I'm not familiar with uh the standby councel process and I just found out about this this morning well all right that's not my issue we appointed the office of assigned Council May 28th according to this Court's own motion the boan office of assign council is here by appointed to act as standby advisory counsil for defendant and shall appear at all hearings scheduled in this case including the docket call on July 9th at 9:30 a.m. and the jury selection and trial August 8th and the clerk's office would provide notice to standby Council as well notice has been provided we confirmed with your office that you were the one all right um Mr McLoud does not appear to be present in the courtroom is he in the hallway he's not in Zoom either uh he's not appeared have you had any contact with Mr Trevor McLoud uh to my knowledge the entire office is not your honor all right well Mr McLoud has been representing himself um I did appoint standby council at the last hearing standby council is present but since the last hearing uh Mr McLoud has refused to accept mail from the court uh we sent a mailing to him with copies of the orders that I entered at the last hearing it was sent back to us with a red marker stating Return to sender and offer to contract is denied so sadly Mr McLoud seems to be retreating back into nonsensical Sovereign citizen defenses and he filed a document or there's an document reported to have been signed by him entitled letter rogatory for Relief that is legal nonsense that somehow accuses the court of somehow generating funds from the case using the defendant has some security mechanism which makes no sense at all this is not the first uh problems we've had with Mr McLoud and now he's choosing to refuse service from the court and refusing to attend here today we have a jury trial scheduled August 8th and 9th Mr Juliet any requests from the people uh this is his first failure to appear um my knowledge but I I wasn't aware that he was deliberately refusing uh correspondence from the court so uh based on that I would ask for benchor all right Mr um wgo any input from standby counselor you don't represent him but you're here to stand by and give him you're here to give him advice if he is here if he wants advice and to stand by to represent him if he's not able to represent himself and him not being absent I guess if you want to state in behalf uh yes your honor being that it is his first non appearance and it appears that he is maybe under the impression that there are some legal mechanisms at play that aren't I would ask that instead of a bench warrant the court issue a show cause and allow office an opportunity to try and work with him well he's not only not here today he's refusing to accept anything that we're sending him he's repeatedly demonstrated contempt for this Court's Authority in process I'll issue a bench warrant for his failing to appear with no bond do we leave the trial date on for now Mr Juliet uh yes okay normally I would cancel the trial date I'm going to give Mr McLoud the courtesy of not canceling that trial date because I don't want him to be sitting in jail for a super long time on this case um but I guess uh my staff will monitor that if he's not in custody soon we'll be canceling that dat us for other cases H Dad we're going to jail and a day later he's in cust there way to go Trevor and look at that race what do you have to say for yourself now that you're back in court Mr McLoud you mrgo no it's Mr Vargo for reignment purposes all right we are on the record in the 53rd Circuit Court for the county of Shaban and we are providing Public Access both in the courtroom and also online and we're here to a Rain on a bench warrant Mr Trevor Trevor Kenneth McLoud it's file 23- 6748 FH Council please State your appearances oh I'm sorryy jul for the record Ronald with Mr moud Mr McLoud meet with him hand all right well Mr McLoud it's alleged that you are in contemp of Court uh for failing to appear on July 9th at 9:30 a.m. for a 50 Court hearing you got the right to a hearing on that allegation where we need to be proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and the right to the assistance of an attorney at that hearing uh if you are found to be in violation if you are found to be in content I could jail you for up to 93 days I could find you for up to $7,500 of both I can also revoke your bond if you're not uh if you're not complying with the term to be released do you understand the rights and penalties that you have in front of you Mr M sure could I could I um I I was under the impression that this is all going to be over with by now that we're NOP agreement all right Mr McLoud and also so so you you know the rights and penalties that I outlined for you you understand those yeah all right Mr varg do you know how he wishes to proceed uh no he indicated human interest Mr McLoud you're indicating you want to represent yourself well I I thought that we can I say a couple things first okay you can answer my question sure do you are you saying you want to represent yourself I they have been doing that the whole time we've been doing that the whole time um under fovie California 1975 US Supreme Court defendant has the constitutional right to represent himself he has in this case unequivocally asserted that right in Prior hearings and validly waved his right to councel however self-representation may be denied where the defendant disrupts unduly inconveniences or burdens the court and the administration of the Court's business that's 1976 Michigan Supreme Court people be Anderson even the fretta case the US Supreme Court said the right of self-representation is not a license to abuse the Dignity of the courtroom neither is it a license not to comply with the relevant rules of procedural and substitute law here while representing himself defendant refused to accept mail from the clerk's office when that happened I directed staff to resend the mailing directly from the court giving him the benefit of a doubt because he was representing himself he would surely accept something from the court he again refused writing in red lettering on the envelope Return to sender and offered to contract is denied defendant had someone file a document on his behalf in his case called a letter rogatory for relief which was legal nonsense accusing the court of fraudulently using this case as some sort of security against his trust claiming that all judges are foreign agents Andor employees of the international monetary fund which is absolutely absurd and demanding that he be placed on some non-existent do not detain list this is not the first time that this defendant has disrupted this Court's business one time I had to hold Mr McLoud in contemp for refusing to answer my questions during his initial waiver of counsel after that contempt we were able to complete the waiver process and I allowed him to represent himself but at those subsequent hearings he repeatedly interrupted the procedure ings he repeatedly persisted in arguments even after being heard and ruled against and now he has refused to participate in the court process by rejecting Court mailings while purporting to represent himself so I have now lost any confidence Mr McLoud that you are able to represent yourself in this matter without disrupting the Court's business or making a mockery of the Court proceedings therefore as this case moves forward I am revoking your right to represent yourself and I'm appointing Mr Mr wgo to represent you as a lawyer okay Mr wgo here if the office of assigned Council determines that Mr McCloud is not Indigent or is only partially Indigent that office May petition this court under the applicable statute or contribution from Mr McLoud for the cost of representation so Mr varg you want to set this for a hearing then I do all right not all right Mr M will ENT plee not guilty on your behalf as to the contempt so we have to schedule this for a docket call on the underlying case which is still pending and on the contempt hearing I'll schedule that for August 20th at 10 a.m. I also have to advise you Mr McLoud that I canceled your Dury trial date and gave that date to somebody else who was here so your trial on August 8th and 9th will not occur I will next see you on August 20th at 10: a.m. anything as to release Mr VAR is the court want to uh entertain uh B on this matter are to my understanding Mr McLoud is a local resident and he is met with the exception of the last court date that he tells me that uh he thought the case was result although obviously it was not uh he is appeared for most of his prior court [Music] dates he's employed locally your honor I think perhaps if the court would set a modest uh monetary bond that would ensure a future not have to make sure Mr Juliet I would ask that Bond remain revoked um he is what I'm told rejecting the Court's uh mailings of the notice to appear I mean I think that's just a BL violation of I speak the uh Court rule so he's made it clear he doesn't want to take it as serious I would ask that b remain invoked all right Mr cloud is there something you wanted to tell me I wanted to speak on that the mailing stuff I I do that with all my junk mail and I'm really sorry if that happened to one of don't don't don't make it worse by lying to me right now Mr M you wrote clear things on that mailing that indicate Sovereign citizen types of defenses that you thought you were asserting it's not that this was Jun mail don't make make it apologize too for for maybe listening to some of the wrong information when I don't well you're a grown person Mr McLoud and I I hope you're learning an important lesson in can I can I just say this you make your decision can I say this I have a job right now that's completely exposed to the weather I've got $40,000 wor the windows coming this week to this job I I really really uh invested in this job and my client ly this would be a really big problem if I get this roked after this stage all right well Mr McLoud it's a shame you had to learn a civics lesson the hard way here you are a citizen with rights and freed freedoms but you also have responsibilities in a society where other citizens live alongside you that includes obeying the laws that the people pass to the representatives for example the people are entitled to pass a law that says they don't want folks operating boats under the influence of alcohol you think that law doesn't apply it does and when a law enforcement officer sees you violating that law you can't resist arrest without consequence when you are alleged to violate those laws Mr McLoud there's a third branch of government that does exist and it exists for the orderly resolution of those disputes those allegations with full protection of your rights as opposed to some kind of vigilante justice system you may not agree with this but this court has diligently tried to protect your rights and afforded you a respectful and lawful process you have disrupted and ignored that process you have disrespected that Pro process time and again that subjection now to contempt of court and revocation of bond most people Mr McLoud learn this lesson the easy way it seems that you now have to learn at the hard you're remanded into the custody of the incoming sheriff and will next see you sir with your lawyer Mr wo on August 20th at 10: and thanks for hanging out with us on fact your frauds make sure you hit that Thumbs Up Button you're 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